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(Some Guy)   No more flash support for Android starting with 4.1. So does this mean Android users will stop biatching about the iPhone and its lack of flash?   (blogs.adobe.com) divider line 111
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2012-06-30 01:02:00 AM  
Flash sucks and Androids are for people who think they know more about technology than you do. They don't. And they secretly just want a goddamn iPhone already. But they'll never admit it and will always say their Androids are far superior.

You know why Android phones really suck though? No Plants vs. Zombies.
 
2012-06-30 01:21:24 AM  

Cymbal: You know why Android phones really suck though? No Plants vs. Zombies.


I know you're trolling, but ummm... yeah.
 
2012-06-30 01:23:45 AM  

Cymbal: Flash sucks and Androids are for people who think they know more about technology than you do. They don't. And they secretly just want a goddamn iPhone already. But they'll never admit it and will always say their Androids are far superior.

You know why Android phones really suck though? No Plants vs. Zombies.


You must seriously be trolling... I've had PvZ on my phone for well over a year. I can do more way more of the things I want to do with my Android phone than an iPhone, I can change almost every interface on the phone so I get it exactly how I want it to look. I have multiple ways to get an app, be it Google Play Store, Amazon Appstore, GetJAR, whatever.

Plants vs. Zombies (Google Play Store link)
Plants vs. Zombies (Amazon Appstore link)

Apple has some great things going for it as well. The retina display is beautiful (though the HTC Rezound and Sony Xperia S now have the highest PPI (342 vs the Retina's 326) screen available currently, and they have a bigger screen and aspect ratio). Plus they also have the aftermarket docks and such because of the iPod.

As far as the claim of people knowing more about technology, it's true in some cases, and not true in others. That is too sweeping of a generalization to be accurate. If I secretly wanted an iPhone, I would have bought an iPhone. I wanted an Android phone, so I bought an Android phone. My next phone will also be an Android phone.
 
2012-06-30 01:50:29 AM  

lordargent: Ever since browsers started isolating flash, so that plugin crashes don't bring down the entire browser, I haven't given any thought to flash.

[lordargent.com image 381x235]

// in fact, sometimes I kill the flash process intentionally ;)
[sudo killall plugin-container] results in the instant death of the flash plugin in all browser windows/tabs.


Sweet. I got sick and tired of npviewer.bin taking a puke over everything.
 
2012-06-30 06:42:35 AM  

downstairs:
Yeah, but when you go to Amazon on a mobile device, it takes you to their trimmed-down mobile site. Which is a good thing.


*holds up 2nd Gen iPad*

Much higher resolution than a phone or at least a much larger screen but the mobile sites generally look like ass on it and if you fiddle with the browser-ID strings you'll often end up with a site crashing the browser. Fark is actually quite a good example of this; the mobile site sucks balls on my iPad (I assume it'd be just peachy on an actual phone) and the full fat site often misbehaves on mobile Safari.

There seems to be a disconnect somewhere about what sort of devices are out and about in the wild when it comes to making mobile sites; although I can kinda understand designers not wanting to do 3 versions.
 
2012-06-30 07:57:56 AM  

loonatic112358: Ed Finnerty: At this rate, there's going to be a secondary internet called "legacynet" that will be used exclusively by legacy apps and IE6.

Made for old people? With large fonts, and loud volume levels?


We laugh but this could be a billion-dollar idea.

We could even add a watermark to all webpages that reads, "Powered by AOL".
 
2012-06-30 12:16:06 PM  

exick: kingoomieiii: No, they're hiding it on the Play store from devices it isn't already on. You can still side-load it, it just might not work very well.

And they aren't certifying any devices from 4.1 and beyond (apparently) so it won't come pre-loaded.


So people fail at reading comprehension, flash is pre-installed on certified devices and will still work.

The biggest difference between iPhone and android that I will make fun of is that when you buy an android device its yours to do as you please while apple limits what they allow you to do with a device YOU OWN.

That's what always pissed me off about my iPhone, that I couldn't put shiat on it that I wanted.

/f@ck apple
//Samsung kicks their asses
 
2012-06-30 12:43:45 PM  

Ed Finnerty: We laugh but this could be a billion-dollar idea.We could even add a watermark to all webpages that reads, "PoweredSponsored by AOL".



And make an easy to use skin of winamp for them to play music with

/I love winamp, hate it's masters
 
2012-06-30 04:17:32 PM  

Without Fail: Nem Wan: Thoughts on Flash by Steve Jobs (2010)

Thoughts on Steve Jobs by Flash (RIP)


Thoughts on Steve Jobs by Sam & Dean Winchester.
s14.postimage.org
 
2012-07-01 01:12:09 AM  
All this is going to choose is chase people away from Android, same as what happened to iPhone. I guess its Windows 7.8 from here on out.
 
2012-07-02 04:05:18 AM  

JRB: HeartBurnKid: That's truly a shame. I still use Flash to watch videos on my tablet all the time.

Oh well, maybe this will light a fire under Blip.TV and others to actually get an HTML5 interface out.

FYI, Adobe is still emphasizing AIR for deploying Flash on tablets (says so there in tfa at the end). Just not from within a browser.



AIR actually puts the lie to Apple's claims of why they didn't want to allow in-browser Flash. It has nothing to do with stability (a plugin destabilizing a browser indicates bad plugin management by the browser anyway), little to do with battery life (if something is draining the battery, people can just disable it). It's more about them not wanting apps played off the web rather then through the App Store, and not wanting easy cross-platform development. (They wanted to keep even AIR off iOS, but they had to back down before the FTC smacked them down with an antitrust suit.)

Don't be shocked if Apple eventually tries something obnoxious to slightly sabotage use of HTML5-based apps. (Possibly claiming some limitation is for the sake of, say, security, performance, or stability.)

/indirect link because the Fark link-checker is being a pain about linking directly to the Financial Times website
 
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