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2012-06-29 11:55:24 AM
Damn that was one of Stewart's better moments. The end of that video was hilarious.

I don't know why anyone bothers to watch CNN anymore. They have been really going downhill especially since Turner sold his stake in the company. Wolf Blitzer is a full on retard.

Your job is to report the news, not to get the f*cking scoop on other TV shows. This isn't a newspaper.

They would have been better off tuning into scotusblog. I'm thankful Fark put scotusblog's link up yesterday because the coverage from them was MUCH better. I didn't have to participate in the CNN debacle.
 
2012-06-29 11:59:28 AM
I sorta called this the day before the ruling:

i116.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-29 01:13:25 PM
The most important piece of information here is that TDS videos now play in foreign land. What happened?
 
2012-06-29 01:20:23 PM

hinten: The most important piece of information here is that TDS videos now play in foreign land. What happened?


Really? Still can't hit Hulu from Canadia. Here's the clip for us north of the 49th.
 
2012-06-29 01:21:15 PM

hinten: The most important piece of information here is that TDS videos now play in foreign land. What happened?


I can't play it. Never can (from Canada). Unless I go to the Canadian web-site and that is too much work. Watch every night anyways.
 
2012-06-29 01:21:46 PM

unyon: hinten: The most important piece of information here is that TDS videos now play in foreign land. What happened?

Really? Still can't hit Hulu from Canadia. Here's the clip for us north of the 49th.

 
2012-06-29 01:32:02 PM
I'm on the same latitude as Vancouver just further east. Has never worked before. Perhaps my ISP is hiding behind 7 proxies.
 
2012-06-29 02:35:45 PM
I didn't see Stewart but I saw Colbert's reaction and it was great.
 
2012-06-29 03:19:23 PM
Old rich man pretending to relate.

They should run him for president.
 
2012-06-29 03:24:00 PM

Eapoe6: Old rich man pretending to relate.

They should run him for president.


Time to turn the other butt-cheek, amiright?
 
2012-06-29 03:26:59 PM
They both deserve the lampoon. Farking morans.
 
2012-06-29 03:31:07 PM

violentsalvation: I didn't see Stewart but I saw Colbert's reaction and it was great.


"It was the best of times"

/ROFL
 
2012-06-29 03:31:34 PM
Regrettably, the CNN/Fox bit was the only good part of the show. The team coverage really beat the joke into the ground and 3 Tenacious D songs is about 4 too many at this point. Really thought he would have done better with this one.
 
2012-06-29 03:31:38 PM

bdub77: Damn that was one of Stewart's better moments. The end of that video was hilarious.


Bah, I missed his punchline at the end, and couldn't rewind fast enough. I'm sure not sitting through the commercial again though.
 
2012-06-29 03:31:49 PM
"Yes, wildly different. There's what you've been saying....."

LOL
 
2012-06-29 03:31:58 PM
CNN: First!
Fox: Second!
TDS: Wrong!
 
2012-06-29 03:34:47 PM
Should be enough to point out to people this is (one of) the exact problems with cable news media outlets?

No?

Well shiat.
 
2012-06-29 03:35:13 PM
I had checked CNN when I got up that morning and they said the mandate was struck down. So I got ready for worked all ticked off. Then I checked it again before I left for work and it said the mandate was held up! Good day at work!
 
2012-06-29 03:35:36 PM
At what income level do the new obamacare taxes start. I make 75k a year, the wife makes 40k. I can tailor my truck driving job to get the free medical but not pay the new tax, but by how much?More time at home but less money, whatever. I thought he said he wasn't going to raise our taxes.
 
2012-06-29 03:36:18 PM
It really is remarkable how farking bad CNN has become. Every single facet of it. The anchors/personalities, the programming lineup. I mean even their website is a farking trainwreck.

Look at this crap from 'This Just In' section where the bulk of the 'news' they cover can be found on the main page. It's just rows of hyperlinks on unrelated subjects. I mean look at this pile of fail on their right now:

• Tom Cruise, Katie Holmes split | Photos
• 5 ways to cope with heat | U.S. bakes
• Postal Service closures start next week
• Stocks soar on eurozone news
• House OKs highway, student loan bill
• Hijack attempt thwarted in China
• Madoff's brother pleads guilty
• Arsonist dies after verdict in court
• GOP launches anti-Obamacare blitz
• Zimmerman seeks new bond
• Boy missing after Olympic torch relay
• Holder held in contempt | Reaction
• 31 victims ID'd in Air Force sex scandal
• NBA draft night winners, losers SI
• Nadal upset SI | Who is this upstart?
• Ticker: Obama's 'BFD' shirt
• Reporter stripped, sexually attacked
• Man jumps to help baby on tracks
• Rielle Hunter grilled over privacy
• Ke$ha gets a tattoo where?

It's like Drudge without the sirens.

Why Fareed Zakaria has a show on there (granted one buried at a horrible timeslot one day a week) is beyond me.
 
2012-06-29 03:37:10 PM
Colbert's take, for those interested (and too lazy to go look for it).
 
2012-06-29 03:38:23 PM
Modern US news is a couple of old ladies gossiping over the fence. It is NOTHING more. Sure you have the crazy paranoid Fox News lady who keeps complaining about the chem trails, but it doesn't mean the other old ladies aren't parroting random facts they heard or just thought up in their heads.
 
2012-06-29 03:40:22 PM

jj325: violentsalvation: I didn't see Stewart but I saw Colbert's reaction and it was great.

"It was the best of times"

/ROFL


But there's good news: RomneyCare ruled constitutional! Woohoo!

I'm sad the shows are going on vacation (again already?) for the next two weeks. The next week will have way too much material to just sum up when they get back.
 
2012-06-29 03:44:32 PM

Launch Code: At what income level do the new obamacare taxes start. I make 75k a year, the wife makes 40k. I can tailor my truck driving job to get the free medical but not pay the new tax, but by how much?More time at home but less money, whatever. I thought he said he wasn't going to raise our taxes.


If you get health insurance, there's no new tax.

If you refuse to either take part in medicaid, the exchanges, your employers plan, or purchase it some other way, then the tax for you would be 95 dollars in 2014, 300 dollars in 2015, 695 in 2016, and the higher of either 695 (inflation adjusted) or 2.2 percent of your gross adjusted income thereafter.
 
2012-06-29 03:44:39 PM

Wasteland: Colbert's take, for those interested (and too lazy to go look for it).


Not as funny as Jon's but more outraged. Even when they dumbasses attempted to reverse themselves, they still got it wrong, saying that the entire law had been upheld. It wasn't. The Court ruled that the provision to take away all of a state's Medicaid funding if they didn't expand enrollment was unconstitutional.
 
2012-06-29 03:48:48 PM

Shrugging Atlas: It really is remarkable how farking bad CNN has become. Every single facet of it. The anchors/personalities, the programming lineup. I mean even their website is a farking trainwreck.

Look at this crap from 'This Just In' section where the bulk of the 'news' they cover can be found on the main page. It's just rows of hyperlinks on unrelated subjects. I mean look at this pile of fail on their right now:

• Tom Cruise, Katie Holmes split | Photos
• 5 ways to cope with heat | U.S. bakes...

It's like Drudge without the sirens.

Why Fareed Zakaria has a show on there (granted one buried at a horrible timeslot one day a week) is beyond me.


Fox = conservative
MSNBC = liberal
CNN = tarded

When I want my late-breaking Kardashian news, I tune in to CNN.
 
2012-06-29 03:53:43 PM

Erix: bdub77: Damn that was one of Stewart's better moments. The end of that video was hilarious.

Bah, I missed his punchline at the end, and couldn't rewind fast enough. I'm sure not sitting through the commercial again though.


Spoilers! he compared CNN's screwup to an overly excited kid opening a christmas present and smashing through the packaging revealing just feathers and a weird red goo and being like "WTF is this crap", just to have his parents tell him it was a parrot before he destroyed it. His version is much funnier.

/yes those commercials suck.
 
2012-06-29 03:56:51 PM

Erix: bdub77: Damn that was one of Stewart's better moments. The end of that video was hilarious.

Bah, I missed his punchline at the end, and couldn't rewind fast enough. I'm sure not sitting through the commercial again though.


Here's it reproduced in text form: link
 
2012-06-29 03:57:50 PM
Poor Mr. Crackers... :-(
 
2012-06-29 03:58:33 PM

Launch Code: At what income level do the new obamacare taxes start. I make 75k a year, the wife makes 40k. I can tailor my truck driving job to get the free medical but not pay the new tax, but by how much?More time at home but less money, whatever. I thought he said he wasn't going to raise our taxes.


Good thing Obamacare was upheld because it sounds like you're having a neurological event.
 
2012-06-29 04:00:59 PM

Launch Code: I have no idea what I'm talking about.


Hey, in your defense, you're not alone. At least you were willing to admit it.
 
2012-06-29 04:03:35 PM
Hmmm, seems like several someones didn't get the memo.
 
2012-06-29 04:04:13 PM
Stewart saying "Obama walking down 'I killed bin laden lane'" was hilarious.
 
2012-06-29 04:05:52 PM

Launch Code: At what income level do the new obamacare taxes start. I make 75k a year, the wife makes 40k. I can tailor my truck driving job to get the free medical but not pay the new tax, but by how much?More time at home but less money, whatever. I thought he said he wasn't going to raise our taxes.


For people who seem to only get their information from Fox News (and are thus clueless), your taxes are going up by a jillionty dollars.

For the rest of us, if we have medical insurance, they don't go up at all.
 
2012-06-29 04:10:17 PM

Launch Code: At what income level do the new obamacare taxes start. I make 75k a year, the wife makes 40k. I can tailor my truck driving job to get the free medical but not pay the new tax, but by how much?More time at home but less money, whatever. I thought he said he wasn't going to raise our taxes.


You do know if you do get health insurance there is no tax and in fact depending on income you may get a tax credit. If your employer has health insurance available why would you not get it in this day and age?
 
2012-06-29 04:11:52 PM

Wasteland: Colbert's take, for those interested (and too lazy to go look for it).


lol
"YOU SUCK AT NEWS!"
 
2012-06-29 04:13:49 PM

Wasteland: Colbert's take, for those interested (and too lazy to go look for it).


Him telling that British guy that's on Fox Business that he sucks at news made my night.
 
2012-06-29 04:14:45 PM
darn...i wanted to see the D rock the house.
 
2012-06-29 04:16:20 PM

LessO2: Stewart saying "Obama walking down 'I killed bin laden lane'" was hilarious.


the entire Obama bit was incredible. He does a pretty good impersonation
 
2012-06-29 04:16:31 PM

sdd2000: Launch Code: At what income level do the new obamacare taxes start. I make 75k a year, the wife makes 40k. I can tailor my truck driving job to get the free medical but not pay the new tax, but by how much?More time at home but less money, whatever. I thought he said he wasn't going to raise our taxes.

You do know if you do get health insurance there is no tax and in fact depending on income you may get a tax credit. If your employer has health insurance available why would you not get it in this day and age?


After speaking with a couple of conservative co-workers (who of course have insurance through work) the consensus seems to be that they simply don't like that they have to be FORCED by the big bad government to get insurance or pay a tax -- even though they've never ever been poor enough where weighing health coverage versus grocery bills is a tough choice.

Honestly, who would opt to pay the tax and not get coverage? I'm guessing the tax is probably as expensive as the insurance itself.
 
2012-06-29 04:18:47 PM
I do like Stewart, but I get tired of hearing about Foxnews on his show.
 
2012-06-29 04:20:51 PM

Mateorocks: sdd2000: Launch Code: At what income level do the new obamacare taxes start. I make 75k a year, the wife makes 40k. I can tailor my truck driving job to get the free medical but not pay the new tax, but by how much?More time at home but less money, whatever. I thought he said he wasn't going to raise our taxes.

You do know if you do get health insurance there is no tax and in fact depending on income you may get a tax credit. If your employer has health insurance available why would you not get it in this day and age?

After speaking with a couple of conservative co-workers (who of course have insurance through work) the consensus seems to be that they simply don't like that they have to be FORCED by the big bad government to get insurance or pay a tax -- even though they've never ever been poor enough where weighing health coverage versus grocery bills is a tough choice.

Honestly, who would opt to pay the tax and not get coverage? I'm guessing the tax is probably as expensive as the insurance itself.


i pay taxes that go to local public schools that my children don't attend.

just sayin'
 
2012-06-29 04:21:39 PM

j__z: I do like Stewart, but I get tired of hearing about Foxnews on his show.


did you watch the bit?

he wasn't bagging on fox. it was mostly cnn bashing
 
2012-06-29 04:23:12 PM
Colbert did a great job, too.

Well done to both.
 
2012-06-29 04:25:06 PM

Shrugging Atlas: pile of fail on their right now:


picard.facepalm.jpg
 
2012-06-29 04:25:17 PM

mrshowrules: I sorta called this the day before the ruling:

[i116.photobucket.com image 640x170]


I love how people think they know more about the constitution than the Supreme court.
 
2012-06-29 04:28:18 PM
CNN and Fox didn't blow it, the Supreme Court did.
 
2012-06-29 04:30:25 PM

j__z: I do like Stewart, but I get tired of hearing about Foxnews on his show.


That's like saying, I like animal planet but I get so sick of hearing about mammals.
 
2012-06-29 04:30:30 PM

urban.derelict: Shrugging Atlas: pile of fail on their right now:

picard.facepalm.jpg


Dammit to hell, how did I fark that up? I'm going to assume I suffered a minor stroke earlier today.
 
2012-06-29 04:38:48 PM
i1188.photobucket.com

It's not as though this hasn't happened before.
 
2012-06-29 04:40:15 PM

j__z: I do like Stewart, but I get tired of hearing about Foxnews on his show.


He gave credit to Fox News for immediately retracting the incorrect statement. CNN, on the other hand, just kept going.
 
2012-06-29 04:41:10 PM

boozehat: i pay taxes that go to local public schools that my children don't attend.


Proposition 13
 
2012-06-29 04:44:06 PM

kliq: j__z: I do like Stewart, but I get tired of hearing about Foxnews on his show.

He gave credit to Fox News for immediately retracting the incorrect statement. CNN, on the other hand, just kept going.


For certain values of immediate.

/Two minutes is still pretty bad.
 
2012-06-29 04:55:19 PM

Paul Baumer: Regrettably, the CNN/Fox bit was the only good part of the show. The team coverage really beat the joke into the ground and 3 Tenacious D songs is about 4 too many at this point. Really thought he would have done better with this one.


This. Tenacious D started as a joke let's leave it there Fer Fark's Sake.
 
2012-06-29 04:55:42 PM

j__z: I do like Stewart, but I get tired of hearing about Foxnews on his show.


Same here. I get tired hearing about how biased and misinformed they are. I get tired of hearing their delusions and claims that the country is suffering now more than ever. I get tired of the implied racism and overt hatred exhibited by their anchors especially knowing that they are educated enough to know better. I get tired of socialism and hearing the same phrases parroted by them and their ilk. Stupid Stewart showing us their flaws.
 
2012-06-29 04:57:02 PM

Shrugging Atlas: Dammit to hell, how did I fark that up? I'm going to assume I suffered a minor stroke earlier today.


It's subliminal, dude. I see it all the time especially on fark, people mistake 'think' for 'thing,' it happens when you know how to touchtype and your fingers are just trying to keep up with your mind.

/which is unpossible
 
2012-06-29 04:57:32 PM

Mateorocks: Honestly, who would opt to pay the tax and not get coverage? I'm guessing the tax is probably as expensive as the insurance itself.


If the tax is less than the cheapest plan available, I imagine a lot of people will.
 
2012-06-29 05:03:05 PM
Kind of easy for an asshat to make his comments after the fact though...isn't it? I mean...Fox and CNN probably had WAY more knowledge....but hey, John Stewart "just knew" when to voice....right.

Fuggin morons...I tell ya
 
2012-06-29 05:05:43 PM
IT WAS A PARROT YOU ASSHOLE.

gold.
 
2012-06-29 05:06:32 PM

Mr. Tweedy: I had checked CNN when I got up that morning and they said the mandate was struck down. So I got ready for worked all ticked off. Then I checked it again before I left for work and it said the mandate was held up! Good day at work!


I came straight to Fark when it was time for the announcement. Glad Fark linked to SCOTUSblog or there may have been a road rage incident on my commute that morning.
 
2012-06-29 05:15:35 PM

Eapoe6: Old rich man pretending to relate.

They should run him for president.


Or we could, ya know, get rid of private campaign finance completely so money has zero say in our elections.

But republicans could never do that because Capitalist Jesus
 
2012-06-29 05:17:05 PM

boozehat: i pay taxes that go to local public schools that my children don't attend.

just sayin'


Article 1 of the Constitution enumerates the powers of Congress, which do not in any way list the power to force someone to purchase any good or service - regardless what that good or service happens to be. The powers not enumberated are expressly stated to be granted to the states. The states then say what they will do, and grant the rest to counties/towns/etc.

just respondin'
 
2012-06-29 05:24:11 PM

Launch Code: At what income level do the new obamacare taxes start. I make 75k a year, the wife makes 40k. I can tailor my truck driving job to get the free medical but not pay the new tax, but by how much?More time at home but less money, whatever. I thought he said he wasn't going to raise our taxes.


That's some weapon grade stupid there, sparky. You really should stop watching fox news.
 
2012-06-29 05:24:31 PM

bdub77: I don't know why anyone bothers to watch CNN anymore. They have been really going downhill especially since Turner sold his stake in the company. Wolf Blitzer is a full on retard.


THANK YOU

I've said before, Blitzer has got to be the dumbest man on TV. Speaking as someone who absolutely hates Fox News, I think CNN is the sh*t that's shat out when a larger sh*t sandwich has another sh*t sandwich for breakfast.
 
2012-06-29 05:31:49 PM
Hilarious! Definitely watch the second clip too.
 
2012-06-29 05:35:34 PM

swingbozo: Launch Code: At what income level do the new obamacare taxes start. I make 75k a year, the wife makes 40k. I can tailor my truck driving job to get the free medical but not pay the new tax, but by how much?More time at home but less money, whatever. I thought he said he wasn't going to raise our taxes.

That's some weapon grade stupid there, sparky. You really should stop watching fox news.


He's a truck driver so he's probably listening to Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck all day.
 
2012-06-29 05:35:37 PM
But republicans could never do that because Capitalist Jesus

The Democrats could never to that because of Union Jesus.

You wanna take both corporate AND union dollars out of the election process? I'm all ears.
 
2012-06-29 05:36:21 PM

relaxitsjustme: Hilarious! Definitely watch the second clip too.


Senator Ackbar is right though.
 
2012-06-29 05:40:03 PM

Pegasus_CAG: But republicans could never do that because Capitalist Jesus

The Democrats could never to that because of Union Jesus.

You wanna take both corporate AND union dollars out of the election process? I'm all ears.


Hmmm ... I thought I wrote that:

Or we could, ya know, get rid of private campaign finance completely so money has zero say in our elections.

When I say "private campaign finance" I mean all money except for standard government allotments. I.E. if you get enough signatures to be on the ballot you and your opponent both get a small (compared to today) stack of money to go out and campaign.

Yes, I mean corporate and union. I apologize if I wasn't clear on that, but I guess I see unions and corporations as two sides of the same evil, private coin.
 
2012-06-29 05:40:55 PM

DeltaPunch: bdub77: I don't know why anyone bothers to watch CNN anymore. They have been really going downhill especially since Turner sold his stake in the company. Wolf Blitzer is a full on retard.

THANK YOU

I've said before, Blitzer has got to be the dumbest man on TV. Speaking as someone who absolutely hates Fox News, I think CNN is the sh*t that's shat out when a larger sh*t sandwich has another sh*t sandwich for breakfast.


Obligatory:

3.bp.blogspot.com

/Of course the comedian's kicking ass.
 
2012-06-29 05:42:04 PM
I had opened a tab with SCOTUSBlog at least an hour beforehand, so was oblivious to the fun-n-games. Drat!
 
2012-06-29 05:42:42 PM

zarberg: Pegasus_CAG: But republicans could never do that because Capitalist Jesus

The Democrats could never to that because of Union Jesus.

You wanna take both corporate AND union dollars out of the election process? I'm all ears.

Hmmm ... I thought I wrote that:

Or we could, ya know, get rid of private campaign finance completely so money has zero say in our elections.

When I say "private campaign finance" I mean all money except for standard government allotments. I.E. if you get enough signatures to be on the ballot you and your opponent both get a small (compared to today) stack of money to go out and campaign.

Yes, I mean corporate and union. I apologize if I wasn't clear on that, but I guess I see unions and corporations as two sides of the same evil, private coin.


I'm all for publicly financed (and only publicly financed) campaigns, but union and corporation contributions aren't equal. Also, the issue right now isn't corporate contributions so much as it is one billionaire throwing millions upon millions of dollars into a race. At least a union is (presumably) a lot of people, and none of those people are billionaires.
 
2012-06-29 05:44:49 PM

Dafatone: I'm all for publicly financed (and only publicly financed) campaigns, but union and corporation contributions aren't equal. Also, the issue right now isn't corporate contributions so much as it is one billionaire throwing millions upon millions of dollars into a race. At least a union is (presumably) a lot of people, and none of those people are billionaires.


I agree with you fully, so let's sum up how both of us feel:

Fark you, Citizens United.
 
2012-06-29 05:46:08 PM

Launch Code: I make 75k a year, the wife makes 40k. I can tailor my truck driving job


You make $75k driving a truck?
 
2012-06-29 05:48:06 PM

StoneColdAtheist: I had opened a tab with SCOTUSBlog at least an hour beforehand, so was oblivious to the fun-n-games. Drat!


Hipster.
 
2012-06-29 05:49:05 PM

DeltaPunch: I think CNN is the sh*t that's shat out when a larger sh*t sandwich has another sh*t sandwich for breakfast.


I clicked the "Funny" button for this, though I don't even what it does.

/yes, that was intentional
 
2012-06-29 05:49:33 PM

zarberg: Dafatone: I'm all for publicly financed (and only publicly financed) campaigns, but union and corporation contributions aren't equal. Also, the issue right now isn't corporate contributions so much as it is one billionaire throwing millions upon millions of dollars into a race. At least a union is (presumably) a lot of people, and none of those people are billionaires.

I agree with you fully, so let's sum up how both of us feel:

Fark you, Citizens United.


I like private campaign finance. It's helpful to counterbalance free media coverage, which can lean.
 
2012-06-29 05:51:12 PM

Launch Code: At what income level do the new obamacare taxes start. I make 75k a year, the wife makes 40k. I can tailor my truck driving job to get the free medical but not pay the new tax, but by how much?More time at home but less money, whatever. I thought he said he wasn't going to raise our taxes.


Just wait until you have back problems from driving that truck day in and day out. You know that being a truck driver is listed as one of the top ten most dangerous jobs in America? It's not because of accidents; it's largely because of cumulative back problems. Worried about a tax? How about the $120 you're going to have to pay every time you go to the chiropractor, and then don't even get started on how much the surgery is going to cost. Yeah, back surgeries don't get done by orthopedic surgeons, they get done by neurosurgeons. Neurosurgeons don't come cheap. Lumbar fusion could set you back about $90,000.

You're gonna be happy for that insurance in the long run.
 
2012-06-29 05:52:23 PM

zarberg: Dafatone: I'm all for publicly financed (and only publicly financed) campaigns, but union and corporation contributions aren't equal. Also, the issue right now isn't corporate contributions so much as it is one billionaire throwing millions upon millions of dollars into a race. At least a union is (presumably) a lot of people, and none of those people are billionaires.

I agree with you fully, so let's sum up how both of us feel:

Fark you, Citizens United.


Amen.
 
2012-06-29 05:52:23 PM

Wangiss: I like private campaign finance. It's helpful to counterbalance free media coverage, which can lean.


So you're saying we need billionaires to give massive chunks of money to make up for the ultra-liberal media that has no conservative voice whatsoever?
 
2012-06-29 05:53:04 PM

zarberg: Wangiss: I like private campaign finance. It's helpful to counterbalance free media coverage, which can lean.

So you're saying we need billionaires to give massive chunks of money to make up for the ultra-liberal media that has no conservative voice whatsoever?


We need the super rich to balance out themselves. Since it's not like the media's run by poor folks.
 
2012-06-29 05:54:14 PM

Dafatone: zarberg: Wangiss: I like private campaign finance. It's helpful to counterbalance free media coverage, which can lean.

So you're saying we need billionaires to give massive chunks of money to make up for the ultra-liberal media that has no conservative voice whatsoever?

We need the super rich to balance out themselves. Since it's not like the media's run by poor folks.


Oh, sure, I try leading him to a logical point and you just snap the leash on and drag him along.

Wait ... you're into leashes? How YOU doin'?
 
2012-06-29 05:54:35 PM

Wangiss: StoneColdAtheist: I had opened a tab with SCOTUSBlog at least an hour beforehand, so was oblivious to the fun-n-games. Drat!

Hipster.


LOL...more like "old and careful". I haven't been hip since well well before John Revolting made Grease.

/red double-knit leisure suit ftw
 
2012-06-29 05:55:50 PM

zarberg: Wangiss: I like private campaign finance. It's helpful to counterbalance free media coverage, which can lean.

So you're saying we need billionaires to give massive chunks of money to make up for the ultra-liberal media that has no conservative voice whatsoever?


"So you're saying"

Classic.
 
2012-06-29 05:57:23 PM

Wangiss: zarberg: Wangiss: I like private campaign finance. It's helpful to counterbalance free media coverage, which can lean.

So you're saying we need billionaires to give massive chunks of money to make up for the ultra-liberal media that has no conservative voice whatsoever?

"So you're saying"

Classic.


Ahh, you have no rebuttal then.

Classic Conservative.
 
2012-06-29 05:57:45 PM

StoneColdAtheist: Wangiss: StoneColdAtheist: I had opened a tab with SCOTUSBlog at least an hour beforehand, so was oblivious to the fun-n-games. Drat!

Hipster.

LOL...more like "old and careful". I haven't been hip since well well before John Revolting made Grease.

/red double-knit leisure suit ftw


Double-knit lombs werre the only ones capable of producing what is now "Microfiber." Some poor fark in Alabama had a stack of them and is now incredibly rich.

No, I don't have a link. That was a case study in BUS101 back in the day.
 
2012-06-29 05:58:18 PM

Shrugging Atlas: Why Fareed Zakaria has a show on there (granted one buried at a horrible timeslot one day a week) is beyond me.


Seconded, that's easily the best show on any cable news channel. Hiding it in the middle of a Sunday is pants on head retarded and I imagine Mr Zakaria pushes pretty hard to get moved to a better time slot.
 
2012-06-29 06:00:18 PM

zarberg: So you're saying we need billionaires to give massive chunks of money to make up for the ultra-liberal media that has no conservative voice whatsoever?


Would someone finally explain how the media is liberal? Has the trope of the "liberal media" just been repeated so many times that people just accept it?
 
2012-06-29 06:03:29 PM

zarberg: Wangiss: zarberg: Wangiss: I like private campaign finance. It's helpful to counterbalance free media coverage, which can lean.

So you're saying we need billionaires to give massive chunks of money to make up for the ultra-liberal media that has no conservative voice whatsoever?

"So you're saying"

Classic.

Ahh, you have no rebuttal then.

Classic Conservative.


You want me to rebut your misinterpretation of my opinion? I don't understand why a person would do that.

Also, I'm not a conservative; I'm a progressive minarchist. Antanas Mockus is a good example.
 
2012-06-29 06:06:01 PM

Mugato: zarberg: So you're saying we need billionaires to give massive chunks of money to make up for the ultra-liberal media that has no conservative voice whatsoever?

Would someone finally explain how the media is liberal? Has the trope of the "liberal media" just been repeated so many times that people just accept it?


The trope goes that since almost all students of journalism are leftists, the reporters in the media are mostly liberal. My opinion is that they are capitalists who want to make money and some are more successful than others. What you'll find is that those media outlets that cater to niche audiences adhere to those niches' ideologies because that's more profitable.
 
2012-06-29 06:13:04 PM

sdd2000: Launch Code: At what income level do the new obamacare taxes start. I make 75k a year, the wife makes 40k. I can tailor my truck driving job to get the free medical but not pay the new tax, but by how much?More time at home but less money, whatever. I thought he said he wasn't going to raise our taxes.

You do know if you do get health insurance there is no tax and in fact depending on income you may get a tax credit. If your employer has health insurance available why would you not get it in this day and age?


Because they don't want to HAVE to do anything. If they want to get sick and die or suffer crippling illness it's THEIR RIGHT and you can't make them want to get better!!
 
2012-06-29 06:15:22 PM

Wangiss: Mugato: zarberg: So you're saying we need billionaires to give massive chunks of money to make up for the ultra-liberal media that has no conservative voice whatsoever?

Would someone finally explain how the media is liberal? Has the trope of the "liberal media" just been repeated so many times that people just accept it?

The trope goes that since almost all students of journalism are leftists, the reporters in the media are mostly liberal. My opinion is that they are capitalists who want to make money and some are more successful than others. What you'll find is that those media outlets that cater to niche audiences adhere to those niches' ideologies because that's more profitable.



Okay, except that the #1 news organization in the country is Fox News, which is cartoonishly right wing, like Starship Troopers level. And I think the concept started when the media started reporting on everything Dubya and Cheney did that was so over the top stupid/evil. So it's the whole balme the messenger thing.
 
2012-06-29 06:15:47 PM

Gyrfalcon: sdd2000: Launch Code: At what income level do the new obamacare taxes start. I make 75k a year, the wife makes 40k. I can tailor my truck driving job to get the free medical but not pay the new tax, but by how much?More time at home but less money, whatever. I thought he said he wasn't going to raise our taxes.

You do know if you do get health insurance there is no tax and in fact depending on income you may get a tax credit. If your employer has health insurance available why would you not get it in this day and age?

Because they don't want to HAVE to do anything. If they want to get sick and die or suffer crippling illness it's THEIR RIGHT and you can't make them want to get better!!


I heard an Englishman interviewing an American on the BBC last night (or the night before?) regarding healthcare and he expressed his confusion with a question like, "Why wouldn't Americans like this concept that most of the developed world enjoys? Is it just because Americans don't like being told what to do?" The American's response began with, "Well, I'm not going to go back through history, but..."

It was pretty funny stuff.
 
2012-06-29 06:20:59 PM

Mugato: Wangiss: Mugato: zarberg: So you're saying we need billionaires to give massive chunks of money to make up for the ultra-liberal media that has no conservative voice whatsoever?

Would someone finally explain how the media is liberal? Has the trope of the "liberal media" just been repeated so many times that people just accept it?

The trope goes that since almost all students of journalism are leftists, the reporters in the media are mostly liberal. My opinion is that they are capitalists who want to make money and some are more successful than others. What you'll find is that those media outlets that cater to niche audiences adhere to those niches' ideologies because that's more profitable.


Okay, except that the #1 news organization in the country is Fox News, which is cartoonishly right wing, like Starship Troopers level. And I think the concept started when the media started reporting on everything Dubya and Cheney did that was so over the top stupid/evil. So it's the whole balme the messenger thing.


If you look at it through the capitalist lens, Fox actually sort of reinforces the trope by taking a larger portion of the market than any individual competitor can fetch. If liberals have more left-leaning options for news (i.e. if the liberal media trope is true), Fox will rake it in by taking the right wing approach. So Fox is the exception that proves the rule, if that makes sense.
 
2012-06-29 06:33:19 PM
If you watch the next part...there is a special appearance by a Fark favorite. Dont miss it.
 
2012-06-29 06:33:41 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: If you watch the next part...there is a special appearance by a Fark favorite. Dont miss it.


Lootie!?
 
2012-06-29 06:37:38 PM

Wangiss: Mugato: Wangiss: Mugato: zarberg: So you're saying we need billionaires to give massive chunks of money to make up for the ultra-liberal media that has no conservative voice whatsoever?

Would someone finally explain how the media is liberal? Has the trope of the "liberal media" just been repeated so many times that people just accept it?

The trope goes that since almost all students of journalism are leftists, the reporters in the media are mostly liberal. My opinion is that they are capitalists who want to make money and some are more successful than others. What you'll find is that those media outlets that cater to niche audiences adhere to those niches' ideologies because that's more profitable.


Okay, except that the #1 news organization in the country is Fox News, which is cartoonishly right wing, like Starship Troopers level. And I think the concept started when the media started reporting on everything Dubya and Cheney did that was so over the top stupid/evil. So it's the whole balme the messenger thing.

If you look at it through the capitalist lens, Fox actually sort of reinforces the trope by taking a larger portion of the market than any individual competitor can fetch. If liberals have more left-leaning options for news (i.e. if the liberal media trope is true), Fox will rake it in by taking the right wing approach. So Fox is the exception that proves the rule, if that makes sense.


It doesn't need to be that complicated (not that that is complicated.)

The media is there to make money. That's why every issue is a tightly-contested 50-50 debate with two equal sides. Fox News is crazy right-wing because it rakes in tons of cash that way.

Why wouldn't a left-wing network make tons of money? Because liberals have more varied and scattershot opinions than conservatives (saying "let's change things!" opens up more avenues than "let's not change things!") and so it's harder to have an overarching "liberal" station that boils down all of "liberalism" to two-second talking points.
 
2012-06-29 06:40:12 PM
Dafatone, caricatures side, you put it perfectly.
 
2012-06-29 06:42:04 PM

hunches: CNN: First!
Fox: Second!
TDS: Wrong!


NPR got it right off the gate, actually...

/I love TDS, but if you need breaking news, Fark or NPR are the best sources.
 
2012-06-29 06:43:22 PM
This is supposed to be Fark! Where the hell are all the video links to locations that actually work outside of capitalizt USA??

This is the internet, people. What ever happened to "information wants to be free"?
 
2012-06-29 06:44:32 PM
of course the socialist Jon Stewart gives the Lib News Network a free pass while eviscerating fox news
 
2012-06-29 06:50:27 PM

Wangiss: So Fox is the exception that proves the rule, if that makes sense.


It doesn't, actually. Because there is no news network that is as liberal as Fox News is conservative. Yet conservatives constantly play the victim when they cry that the media is liberal and out to get them.
 
2012-06-29 06:52:16 PM

boozehat: j__z: I do like Stewart, but I get tired of hearing about Foxnews on his show.

did you watch the bit?

he wasn't bagging on fox. it was mostly cnn bashing


He holds Fox in disdain, but he loathes CNN.
 
2012-06-29 06:54:46 PM

Mugato: Wangiss: So Fox is the exception that proves the rule, if that makes sense.

It doesn't, actually. Because there is no news network that is as liberal as Fox News is conservative. Yet conservatives constantly play the victim when they cry that the media is liberal and out to get them.


Let's try again. Let's say there are ten networks and one is conservative as hell. The conservatives will flock to the one that is conservative as hell even if it's too damned conservative because the other networks are too damned liberal. So the conservative one gets more viewers than any single non-conservative network (be it neutral of leftist) because it has nine times the potential viewer base in political terms. (Fuzzy math, but I'm hoping you'll get my point.)

If that doesn't make sense or relate to the situation, please let me know why.
 
2012-06-29 07:06:48 PM

Wangiss: Mugato: Wangiss: So Fox is the exception that proves the rule, if that makes sense.

It doesn't, actually. Because there is no news network that is as liberal as Fox News is conservative. Yet conservatives constantly play the victim when they cry that the media is liberal and out to get them.

Let's try again. Let's say there are ten networks and one is conservative as hell. The conservatives will flock to the one that is conservative as hell even if it's too damned conservative because the other networks are too damned liberal. So the conservative one gets more viewers than any single non-conservative network (be it neutral of leftist) because it has nine times the potential viewer base in political terms. (Fuzzy math, but I'm hoping you'll get my point.)

If that doesn't make sense or relate to the situation, please let me know why.



Yeah, I get your point but liberals and conservatives are split about 50/50. So why is there one network that is ridiculously right wing that is the #1 news network in the country and yet right wingers still cry bout there being a liberal media?
 
2012-06-29 07:12:49 PM
Back in my day we had 3 channels. News came on for 30 minutes in the morning and noon, then for an hour at 6 and 11PM.
Even then there was too much damn news on.
 
2012-06-29 07:14:40 PM
Um,

Since I just asked to go out with Katie Holmes in a beard thread, threatened the veil, and mentioned xenu, I figure I might as well go balls deep: Mr. Stewart, please hire me to do something for you, please? Heh.

;)
 
2012-06-29 07:16:25 PM

Indubitably: Um,

Since I just asked to go out with Katie Holmes in a beard thread, threatened the veil, and mentioned xenu, I figure I might as well go balls deep: Mr. Stewart, please hire me to do something for you, please? Heh.

;)


You got nothin on Pocket Ninja
 
2012-06-29 07:20:01 PM

Launch Code: At what income level do the new obamacare taxes start. I make 75k a year, the wife makes 40k. I can tailor my truck driving job to get the free medical but not pay the new tax, but by how much?More time at home but less money, whatever. I thought he said he wasn't going to raise our taxes.


OK, I really don't think you're trolling here; I assume you just truly have no clue about what is and is not being taxed, and what not having health insurance means to you, personally.

You have a family income of $110k a year and you don't currently have health insurance? That is... a bad, bad idea. A sudden catastrophe that costs a farkton of money and stops you from working for a while will eat through your savings horribly fast, if you have any. If you were at the $500k level, I might, might think you'd made an OK decision. Maybe.

So. Your company apparently offers medical. TAKE IT. Just... just, please, for the good of everyone, take it. Especially if the job offers a level where you don't pay, in which case, why don't you already have it? I'm uncertain why that would require you to tailor your job time, but happy to hear your explanation.

Since you, apparently, won't be paying anything for insurance, but you will have it, you won't be subject to the taxes. There. Done.

----

For the rest of the morons who keep saying "THEYRE GONNA TAX INCOMES UNDER 250K OMG ONOZ":

A. If you have an income between $75k and $250k, chances are you're eligible for insurance through your employer. If you're not taking that, then you're an idiot--and a freeloader.
B. If you have an income lower than that, and you still don't have insurance, you will qualify for a tax rebate, yes, rebate, that will pay for most, if not all, of your insurance.

The only people subject to any new expenses are people who could previously afford insurance but didn't buy it, and will now have to do so or pay the tax. This class of people are what I call "freeloaders." Eventually, the rest of us who pay into the system will have to pay for your medical bills, probably through EMTALA.

That said, I would have been plenty happy with a provision that, instead of putting in the tax penalty, revoked EMTALA and similar protections for people who didn't have insurance and weren't completely indigent/homeless/etc. Those people would, of course, die when they had a catastrophe.
 
2012-06-29 07:27:22 PM

bwilson27: Indubitably: Um,

Since I just asked to go out with Katie Holmes in a beard thread, threatened the veil, and mentioned xenu, I figure I might as well go balls deep: Mr. Stewart, please hire me to do something for you, please? Heh.

;)

You got nothin on Pocket Ninja


Um, thanks for the comparison I never would have made, nor any other Farker but you, man. Own it.

P.S. Apostrophe error compounded by a period error. Period.
 
2012-06-29 07:27:32 PM

Wangiss: Dafatone, caricatures side, you put it perfectly.


The thing to remember is that it's not a question of whether the media is left, or right, or pushing this agenda or that one. The thing to remember is that the media sucks.
 
2012-06-29 07:39:42 PM
For once, I'd like to see TDS/CR break a major story before the major networks.
 
2012-06-29 07:50:29 PM

Marine1: For once, I'd like to see TDS/CR break a major story before the major networks.


I really don't think that's going to happen considering they're not live shows. Although, at the rate the networks are going, even being a few hours behind there's a chance TDS/CR could soon be the first to break a major story accurately.
 
2012-06-29 07:55:35 PM

firefly212: Launch Code: At what income level do the new obamacare taxes start. I make 75k a year, the wife makes 40k. I can tailor my truck driving job to get the free medical but not pay the new tax, but by how much?More time at home but less money, whatever. I thought he said he wasn't going to raise our taxes.

If you get health insurance, there's no new tax.

If you refuse to either take part in medicaid, the exchanges, your employers plan, or purchase it some other way, then the tax for you would be 95 dollars in 2014, 300 dollars in 2015, 695 in 2016, and the higher of either 695 (inflation adjusted) or 2.2 percent of your gross adjusted income thereafter.


$695 for me and $695 for my wife? I thought it was free?! What's the most I can make for the free stuff? I don't need anymore taxes.
 
2012-06-29 08:02:06 PM

caramba421: Launch Code: At what income level do the new obamacare taxes start. I make 75k a year, the wife makes 40k. I can tailor my truck driving job to get the free medical but not pay the new tax, but by how much?More time at home but less money, whatever. I thought he said he wasn't going to raise our taxes.

Just wait until you have back problems from driving that truck day in and day out. You know that being a truck driver is listed as one of the top ten most dangerous jobs in America? It's not because of accidents; it's largely because of cumulative back problems. Worried about a tax? How about the $120 you're going to have to pay every time you go to the chiropractor, and then don't even get started on how much the surgery is going to cost. Yeah, back surgeries don't get done by orthopedic surgeons, they get done by neurosurgeons. Neurosurgeons don't come cheap. Lumbar fusion could set you back about $90,000.


Ok so your argument is that it's ok to extract money from someone else to pay for the expensive Lumbar fusion surgery you should have saved up for. It's not like truck drivers don't know about this issue and it's not like they can't put money away.

No..your solution is to FORCE the rest of the population to pay their money to your doctor so you can get surgery that you knew you'd most likely need.

So you'll end up forcing the doctor to do the surgery for less than market rates (it's coming, wait and see) and force others to contribute to your health care costs.

You (and idiots like you) actually think this is sustainable? Really? Please to see the NUMEROUS examples of socialist medicine falling into ruin around the world as to why this does not work.

We're going to lost a LOT of jobs to this idiocy. We're going to lose a LOT of doctors. We're all going to get hit with massive tax hikes, painfully rationed medical care and substandard service. Just so we can satisfy some people's idea of "whats fair".

Ah well, this will just bankrupt the whole idiotic system that much faster. If you think you're going to get anything approaching quality medical care form this nightmare I've got a bridge to sell you.

Not to mention the fact that this ruling is an abortion. The federal government just got a green light to impose ANY sort of noxious rules on your private life because the SCOTUS decided anything is "constitutional" because it's done via taxation.

They want us to buy a subscription to NYT, carbon credits, green tee shirts, government war bonds, etc..? They'll just force us to pay a penalty "tax" if we don't buy one. They sky's the limit folks...they can do ANYTHING as long as they wrap it up in a tax.

This decision has destroyed the rule of law in this country.
 
2012-06-29 08:04:04 PM

Wangiss: zarberg: Wangiss: zarberg: Wangiss: I like private campaign finance. It's helpful to counterbalance free media coverage, which can lean.

So you're saying we need billionaires to give massive chunks of money to make up for the ultra-liberal media that has no conservative voice whatsoever?

"So you're saying"

Classic.

Ahh, you have no rebuttal then.

Classic Conservative.

You want me to rebut your misinterpretation of my opinion? I don't understand why a person would do that.

Also, I'm not a conservative; I'm a progressive minarchist. Antanas Mockus is a good example.


Antanas Mockus? Is he a friend of Biggus Dickus?
 
2012-06-29 08:05:44 PM

milominderbinder: caramba421: Launch Code: At what income level do the new obamacare taxes start. I make 75k a year, the wife makes 40k. I can tailor my truck driving job to get the free medical but not pay the new tax, but by how much?More time at home but less money, whatever. I thought he said he wasn't going to raise our taxes.

Just wait until you have back problems from driving that truck day in and day out. You know that being a truck driver is listed as one of the top ten most dangerous jobs in America? It's not because of accidents; it's largely because of cumulative back problems. Worried about a tax? How about the $120 you're going to have to pay every time you go to the chiropractor, and then don't even get started on how much the surgery is going to cost. Yeah, back surgeries don't get done by orthopedic surgeons, they get done by neurosurgeons. Neurosurgeons don't come cheap. Lumbar fusion could set you back about $90,000.


Ok so your argument is that it's ok to extract money from someone else to pay for the expensive Lumbar fusion surgery you should have saved up for. It's not like truck drivers don't know about this issue and it's not like they can't put money away.

No..your solution is to FORCE the rest of the population to pay their money to your doctor so you can get surgery that you knew you'd most likely need.

So you'll end up forcing the doctor to do the surgery for less than market rates (it's coming, wait and see) and force others to contribute to your health care costs.

You (and idiots like you) actually think this is sustainable? Really? Please to see the NUMEROUS examples of socialist medicine falling into ruin around the world as to why this does not work.

We're going to lost a LOT of jobs to this idiocy. We're going to lose a LOT of doctors. We're all going to get hit with massive tax hikes, painfully rationed medical care and substandard service. Just so we can satisfy some people's idea of "whats fair".

Ah well, this will just bankrup ...


Somalia beckons. Don't let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya.
 
2012-06-29 08:05:55 PM

milominderbinder: We're going to lost a LOT of jobs to this idiocy. We're going to lose a LOT of doctors. We're all going to get hit with massive tax hikes, painfully rationed medical care and substandard service.


Hilarious grammar aside, do you have any numbers to back that up?
 
2012-06-29 08:07:11 PM

Mugato: Wangiss: Mugato: Wangiss: So Fox is the exception that proves the rule, if that makes sense.

It doesn't, actually. Because there is no news network that is as liberal as Fox News is conservative. Yet conservatives constantly play the victim when they cry that the media is liberal and out to get them.

Let's try again. Let's say there are ten networks and one is conservative as hell. The conservatives will flock to the one that is conservative as hell even if it's too damned conservative because the other networks are too damned liberal. So the conservative one gets more viewers than any single non-conservative network (be it neutral of leftist) because it has nine times the potential viewer base in political terms. (Fuzzy math, but I'm hoping you'll get my point.)

If that doesn't make sense or relate to the situation, please let me know why.


Yeah, I get your point but liberals and conservatives are split about 50/50. So why is there one network that is ridiculously right wing that is the #1 news network in the country and yet right wingers still cry bout there being a liberal media?


lol
 
2012-06-29 08:07:37 PM
Newsflash.

This just in:

Labels

suck.

;)
 
2012-06-29 08:08:35 PM

milominderbinder: This decision has destroyed the rule of law in this country.


Just like the lawless hellhole of Massachusetts.
 
2012-06-29 08:11:28 PM

bdub77: Damn that was one of Stewart's better moments. The end of that video was hilarious.

I don't know why anyone bothers to watch CNN anymore. They have been really going downhill especially since Turner sold his stake in the company. Wolf Blitzer is a full on retard.

Your job is to report the news, not to get the f*cking scoop on other TV shows. This isn't a newspaper.

They would have been better off tuning into scotusblog. I'm thankful Fark put scotusblog's link up yesterday because the coverage from them was MUCH better. I didn't have to participate in the CNN debacle.


"Wolf Blitzer is a full on retard"

So damn true. What a moron.
 
2012-06-29 08:12:22 PM

Wasteland: Colbert's take, for those interested (and too lazy to go look for it).


thank you kind sir, and get out of my head.
 
2012-06-29 08:16:34 PM
Hey, we all know this is just the baby step towards what this country should have done long ago, but we chose war instead. Tell me again how that made sense?

We need a single-payer system for Americans in America.

We need and deserve what Congress gets, no?

How easy to rule from high...

;)
 
2012-06-29 08:17:31 PM

boozehat: Mateorocks: sdd2000: Launch Code: At what income level do the new obamacare taxes start. I make 75k a year, the wife makes 40k. I can tailor my truck driving job to get the free medical but not pay the new tax, but by how much?More time at home but less money, whatever. I thought he said he wasn't going to raise our taxes.

You do know if you do get health insurance there is no tax and in fact depending on income you may get a tax credit. If your employer has health insurance available why would you not get it in this day and age?

After speaking with a couple of conservative co-workers (who of course have insurance through work) the consensus seems to be that they simply don't like that they have to be FORCED by the big bad government to get insurance or pay a tax -- even though they've never ever been poor enough where weighing health coverage versus grocery bills is a tough choice.

Honestly, who would opt to pay the tax and not get coverage? I'm guessing the tax is probably as expensive as the insurance itself.

i pay taxes that go to local public schools that my children don't attend.

just sayin'


I paid taxes that paid for a war that none of my family members participated in... Just sayin...
 
2012-06-29 08:19:51 PM

Wangiss: Mugato: Wangiss: Mugato: Wangiss: So Fox is the exception that proves the rule, if that makes sense.

It doesn't, actually. Because there is no news network that is as liberal as Fox News is conservative. Yet conservatives constantly play the victim when they cry that the media is liberal and out to get them.

Let's try again. Let's say there are ten networks and one is conservative as hell. The conservatives will flock to the one that is conservative as hell even if it's too damned conservative because the other networks are too damned liberal. So the conservative one gets more viewers than any single non-conservative network (be it neutral of leftist) because it has nine times the potential viewer base in political terms. (Fuzzy math, but I'm hoping you'll get my point.)

If that doesn't make sense or relate to the situation, please let me know why.


Yeah, I get your point but liberals and conservatives are split about 50/50. So why is there one network that is ridiculously right wing that is the #1 news network in the country and yet right wingers still cry bout there being a liberal media?

lol



Shiat, were you being serious? They're up in arms that the other nine are more liberal than what they watch. Does that not compute
 
2012-06-29 08:21:53 PM

sdd2000: Launch Code: At what income level do the new obamacare taxes start. I make 75k a year, the wife makes 40k. I can tailor my truck driving job to get the free medical but not pay the new tax, but by how much?More time at home but less money, whatever. I thought he said he wasn't going to raise our taxes.

You do know if you do get health insurance there is no tax and in fact depending on income you may get a tax credit. If your employer has health insurance available why would you not get it in this day and age?


It costs too much, and/or takes too big of a bite out of your paycheck. Not everybody is rolling in IT sit-on-your-ass-and-post-all-day dough. The Obama plan sounds like it's cheaper for poor and lower middle class families, and it's waaaaaaaaaaaay cheaper for those who are already living comfortably. But I haven't studied it.
 
2012-06-29 08:37:32 PM

Indubitably: Hey, we all know this is just the baby step towards what this country should have done long ago, but we chose war instead. Tell me again how that made sense?

We need a single-payer system for Americans in America.

We need and deserve what Congress gets, no?

How easy to rule from high...

;)


Oh, and it isn't "socialism" to care for your friend and neighbor, hoo-mans.

It's just the right thing to do, regardless (not irregardless, retards), for we are the joke, always...
 
2012-06-29 08:42:55 PM

mrshowrules: hinten: The most important piece of information here is that TDS videos now play in foreign land. What happened?

I can't play it. Never can (from Canada).


Yah well I can't Watch the mercer report from the states. How is that fair?
 
2012-06-29 09:09:00 PM

Launch Code: firefly212: Launch Code: At what income level do the new obamacare taxes start. I make 75k a year, the wife makes 40k. I can tailor my truck driving job to get the free medical but not pay the new tax, but by how much?More time at home but less money, whatever. I thought he said he wasn't going to raise our taxes.

If you get health insurance, there's no new tax.

If you refuse to either take part in medicaid, the exchanges, your employers plan, or purchase it some other way, then the tax for you would be 95 dollars in 2014, 300 dollars in 2015, 695 in 2016, and the higher of either 695 (inflation adjusted) or 2.2 percent of your gross adjusted income thereafter.

$695 for me and $695 for my wife? I thought it was free?! What's the most I can make for the free stuff? I don't need anymore taxes.


Actually at your current income, the 2.2% kicks in for $2530.00 for you and the misses. If you DON'T GET HEALTH INSURANCE.
If you get even a little, there will be no new tax for you.
 
2012-06-29 09:32:21 PM

Pegasus_CAG: But republicans could never do that because Capitalist Jesus

The Democrats could never to that because of Union Jesus.

.


Democrats and liberals don't really talk much about Jesus, though, or pretend he said anything he said was pro-union. Compassionate towards those worse off, maybe, but even that isn't mentioned very often except in rebuttal to right wingers.

Plus, you're an idiot.
 
2012-06-29 09:35:22 PM

unyon: hinten: The most important piece of information here is that TDS videos now play in foreign land. What happened?

Really? Still can't hit Hulu from Canadia. Here's the clip for us north of the 49th.


I can't watch either now?

Lets not forget the 72% of Canadians south of the 49th.
 
2012-06-29 09:36:15 PM

Launch Code: firefly212: Launch Code: At what income level do the new obamacare taxes start. I make 75k a year, the wife makes 40k. I can tailor my truck driving job to get the free medical but not pay the new tax, but by how much?More time at home but less money, whatever. I thought he said he wasn't going to raise our taxes.

If you get health insurance, there's no new tax.

If you refuse to either take part in medicaid, the exchanges, your employers plan, or purchase it some other way, then the tax for you would be 95 dollars in 2014, 300 dollars in 2015, 695 in 2016, and the higher of either 695 (inflation adjusted) or 2.2 percent of your gross adjusted income thereafter.

$695 for me and $695 for my wife? I thought it was free?! What's the most I can make for the free stuff? I don't need anymore taxes.


I'm not sure how much health insurance will cost for you and your wife... I'm not familiar with her employment situation or yours, but if you've structured your truck driving as a business, you can buy through the exchange as a small business (under 25 employees) and the government will reimburse you for 40-60% of the cost of the plan you pick, depending on other particulars... you will also be eligible for a tax credit (either as individuals or a married couple) to cover yet more of the cost... but should you choose to insure yourself and be responsible, there is no penalty... that said, the cost of insurance for you and your wife may vary widely depending on what plan you pick and through what structure you go.
 
2012-06-29 09:37:03 PM
sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net
 
2012-06-29 09:40:00 PM

urban.derelict: [sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net image 640x395]


Duh?
 
2012-06-29 09:40:35 PM

Indubitably: urban.derelict: [sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net image 640x395]

Duh?


Wait, No Duh?

;)
 
2012-06-29 09:48:23 PM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: sdd2000: Launch Code: At what income level do the new obamacare taxes start. I make 75k a year, the wife makes 40k. I can tailor my truck driving job to get the free medical but not pay the new tax, but by how much?More time at home but less money, whatever. I thought he said he wasn't going to raise our taxes.

You do know if you do get health insurance there is no tax and in fact depending on income you may get a tax credit. If your employer has health insurance available why would you not get it in this day and age?

It costs too much, and/or takes too big of a bite out of your paycheck. Not everybody is rolling in IT sit-on-your-ass-and-post-all-day dough. The Obama plan sounds like it's cheaper for poor and lower middle class families, and it's waaaaaaaaaaaay cheaper for those who are already living comfortably. But I haven't studied it.



So you would rather 1) freeload of the rest of us, 2) risk financial ruin for your family and now 3) pay the tax. Boy that makes a ton of sense. I assume your face no longer has a nose.
 
2012-06-29 10:01:52 PM

Indubitably: Duh?

Wait, No Duh?

;)


it happens. f*ck it. I just wanted a pic for fb to mark it for historical purposes.
 
2012-06-29 10:02:52 PM

urban.derelict: Indubitably: Duh?

Wait, No Duh?

;)

it happens. f*ck it. I just wanted a pic for fb to mark it for historical purposes.


fb-mail it?
 
2012-06-29 10:12:13 PM

hinten: The most important piece of information here is that TDS videos now play in foreign land. What happened?


It didn't work for this video, but Netflix sometimes thinks I'm in the USA because I have an IPv6 tunnel through a provider in California.
 
2012-06-29 10:29:57 PM
I was watching MSNBC when this happened, when everyone else is reporting what the reading was, they had people speed reading through the actual decision to see what it said so they wouldn't have a Dewey defeats Truman moment.
 
2012-06-29 10:32:55 PM

unyon: unyon: hinten: The most important piece of information here is that TDS videos now play in foreign land. What happened?

Really? Still can't hit Hulu from Canadia. Here's the clip for us north of the 49th.



Awesome, thank you very much! Came for a link, leaving not disappointed. :)
 
2012-06-29 10:43:29 PM
sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net
 
2012-06-29 10:45:32 PM

Mr. Tweedy: I had checked CNN when I got up that morning and they said the mandate was struck down. So I got ready for worked all ticked off. Then I checked it again before I left for work and it said the mandate was held up! Good day at work!


The relevant thing is that you know hopefully now know better than to check CNN ever.
 
2012-06-29 10:48:11 PM

j__z: I do like Stewart, but I get tired of hearing about Foxnews on his show.


Then you're in for a treat, because this bit's almost entirely about CNN.
 
2012-06-29 10:51:41 PM

milominderbinder: We're going to lost a LOT of jobs to this idiocy. We're going to lose a LOT of doctors. We're all going to get hit with massive tax hikes, painfully rationed medical care and substandard service. Just so we can satisfy some people's idea of "whats fair".

Ah well, this will just bankrupt the whole idiotic system that much faster. If you think you're going to get anything approaching quality medical care form this nightmare I've got a bridge to sell you.

Not to mention the fact that this ruling is an abortion. The federal government just got a green light to impose ANY sort of noxious rules on your private life because the SCOTUS decided anything is "constitutional" because it's done via taxation.

They want us to buy a subscription to NYT, carbon credits, green tee shirts, government war bonds, etc..? They'll just force us to pay a penalty "tax" if we don't buy one. They sky's the limit folks...they can do ANYTHING as long as they wrap it up in a tax.

This decision has destroyed the rule of law in this country.i>

Aww, bullchit!
Just another rope a dope. The GOP demanded the mandatory thingie in the first place and now they can claim they fought the good fight to get it removed, but sadly lost.
PRESTO! Sells to both sides of their financiers.

Look, you got taxes in my insurance.
No, you got your farking insurance in my taxes.
Two, two, two wins in one.

 
2012-06-29 10:53:41 PM

relaxitsjustme: Hilarious! Definitely watch the second clip too.


I snarfled at "the case of Peeing on My Leg v. Telling Me It's Raining."
 
2012-06-29 10:57:28 PM

milominderbinder:
You (and idiots like you) actually think this is sustainable? Really? Please to see the NUMEROUS examples of socialist medicine falling into ruin around the world as to why this does not work.


What a farking joke. You actually believe that the US has the only adequate healthcare system in the world. That's cute.

FACT: The US pays more per capita and per GDP on healthcare by a large margin than any other country.

FACT: Administrative costs in the US healthcare system, most of which are Billing and Coding, dwarf those of all other countries.

FACT: The US has among the worst ratio of gross medical expenditures vs. amount spent on patient care anywhere in the world.

FACT: Medical bills account for most bankruptcies in the us.

Your whole line about "the rule of law has been destroyed" is so farking tired. For real. It's like people like you encounter any law that is slightly offensive to your sensibilities, you start in with this sky-is-falling bullshiat. Enough. Man the fark up already and pay your farking taxes and quit biatching, like the rest of the civilized people in the world.
 
2012-06-29 11:02:28 PM

relaxitsjustme: swingbozo: Launch Code: At what income level do the new obamacare taxes start. I make 75k a year, the wife makes 40k. I can tailor my truck driving job to get the free medical but not pay the new tax, but by how much?More time at home but less money, whatever. I thought he said he wasn't going to raise our taxes.

That's some weapon grade stupid there, sparky. You really should stop watching fox news.

He's a truck driver so he's probably listening to Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck all day.


And probably Coast to Coast at night. I wonder what it's like to live one's entire life in a nonstop stream of complete bullshiat. I mean, I'm sure it's a lot more fun than being a grown-up in the real world, and having to deal with the real complexities of life and society, but I can't imagine it's very fulfilling to never know what's really true.
 
2012-06-29 11:05:58 PM

falcon176: of course the socialist Jon Stewart gives the Lib News Network a free pass while eviscerating fox news


I'm guessing you're not allowed to use a rubber spoon without supervision.
 
2012-06-29 11:10:39 PM

caramba421: FACT:

Federal Reserve bankers just became magnitudes wealthier.

/they forcefully take our taxes, the least they could do is provide general healthcare
//the united states is supposed to protect and guard and care for its citizens, no?
 
2012-06-29 11:18:29 PM
Fed is legalized criminality currently.

Rather, corporatism incarnate, no?

Labels much?

;)
 
2012-06-29 11:19:29 PM

Zalan: I was watching MSNBC when this happened, when everyone else is reporting what the reading was, they had people speed reading through the actual decision to see what it said so they wouldn't have a Dewey defeats Truman moment.


Stupid fact-checking librul reporters and their dark ways of accurate reporting.
 
2012-06-29 11:21:13 PM

Zalan: I was watching MSNBC when this happened, when everyone else is reporting what the reading was, they had people speed reading through the actual decision to see what it said so they wouldn't have a Dewey defeats Truman moment.


Don't most of us just start flipping around when something like this comes up? I guess going back and forth between CNN and FN you'd still be screwed but our channels go msnbc, CNN, HLN and FN in order plus there's the local CBS and ABC affiliates.

I can't be the only one who does this. And kudos to msnbc on this one. Should be SOP now.
 
2012-06-29 11:23:35 PM
The SCOTUS did rule the individual mandate unconstitutional under the commerce clause, which is what the Dems said authorized it. What makes it Constitutional is the fact that it's a tax if you don't have insurance, which is what President Obama said it wasn't.

So the Dems won a victory on the law, but the door of using the commerce clause to compel commerce remains closed. Sort of. That has to be one of the more tightrope walks of a decision I've seen. That may seem like nitpicking, but we are talking about the law. It's all nitpicking.
 
2012-06-29 11:29:56 PM

caramba421: milominderbinder:
You (and idiots like you) actually think this is sustainable? Really? Please to see the NUMEROUS examples of socialist medicine falling into ruin around the world as to why this does not work.

What a farking joke. You actually believe that the US has the only adequate healthcare system in the world. That's cute.

FACT: The US pays more per capita and per GDP on healthcare by a large margin than any other country.

FACT: Administrative costs in the US healthcare system, most of which are Billing and Coding, dwarf those of all other countries.

FACT: The US has among the worst ratio of gross medical expenditures vs. amount spent on patient care anywhere in the world.

FACT: Medical bills account for most bankruptcies in the us.

Your whole line about "the rule of law has been destroyed" is so farking tired. For real. It's like people like you encounter any law that is slightly offensive to your sensibilities, you start in with this sky-is-falling bullshiat. Enough. Man the fark up already and pay your farking taxes and quit biatching, like the rest of the civilized people in the world.


Also, we get much less bang for our buck: From a pure cost-benefit perspective, we're paying much more to life less. Our cost per capita is soaring, but our life expectancy and quality of life are declining, in comparison to other top wealthy nations of the world. Put simply, whatever we're doing, we're clearly doing it wrong. Or at least wronger than those other countries.

I work with public records, and many foreclosures I see are preceded by judgment liens -- people lose their homes because they have trouble settling debts. What are those debts? Some are what you'd expect -- credit cards and the like. But the vast majority originate with medical bills. I'm pretty sure we're the only country in the world with mostly paved roads where people can lose their homes for getting sick.
 
2012-06-29 11:38:49 PM

jules_siegel: boozehat: i pay taxes that go to local public schools that my children don't attend.

Proposition 13


Don't fret your little ole head. We pay plenty of taxes in California.

taxfoundation.org
 
2012-06-30 12:23:57 AM

milominderbinder:

You (and idiots like you) actually think this is sustainable? Really? Please to see the NUMEROUS examples of socialist medicine falling into ruin around the world as to why this does not work.


We can find examples of both success and failure... it's relatively easy since every other western industrialized nation has universal healthcare.

Obamacare is most like Germany's system, but you probably don't care to hear about that, since they're running a surplus.
 
2012-06-30 12:24:56 AM
How can health care that is driven by profit provide the best care?

Isn't it always in the interest of the insurers and what have you to pay the least amount as possible. Once they have your premiums... why would they willingly tolerate an expense without first exercising every possible avenue for withholding coverage. How can anyone think this is desirable state of things?
 
2012-06-30 01:10:27 AM

Shrugging Atlas: It really is remarkable how farking bad CNN has become. Every single facet of it. The anchors/personalities, the programming lineup. I mean even their website is a farking trainwreck.

Look at this crap from 'This Just In' section where the bulk of the 'news' they cover can be found on the main page. It's just rows of hyperlinks on unrelated subjects. I mean look at this pile of fail on their right now:

• Tom Cruise, Katie Holmes split | Photos
• 5 ways to cope with heat | U.S. bakes
• Postal Service closures start next week
• Stocks soar on eurozone news
• House OKs highway, student loan bill
• Hijack attempt thwarted in China
• Madoff's brother pleads guilty
• Arsonist dies after verdict in court
• GOP launches anti-Obamacare blitz
• Zimmerman seeks new bond
• Boy missing after Olympic torch relay
• Holder held in contempt | Reaction
• 31 victims ID'd in Air Force sex scandal
• NBA draft night winners, losers SI
• Nadal upset SI | Who is this upstart?
• Ticker: Obama's 'BFD' shirt
• Reporter stripped, sexually attacked
• Man jumps to help baby on tracks
• Rielle Hunter grilled over privacy
• Ke$ha gets a tattoo where?

It's like Drudge without the sirens.

Why Fareed Zakaria has a show on there (granted one buried at a horrible timeslot one day a week) is beyond me.


Dear mother of God, this.

Was visiting friends (including one from Germany) a year or three back when the Great Tohoku Earthquake hit Japan...and the comment had come up earlier that "Here in America, if we want to find out real news, we hit either the Daily Show and Colbert Report or we go to international media such as the BBC and Deutsche Welle and the Australian ABC". They were a little surprised and puzzled at first why Americans would rely on comedy shows and international state broadcasters for their news.

About three hours into trying to find ANY info on American news media about the Tohoku quake that DIDN'T go into the latest news on (INSERT CELEBRITY HERE) within about five minutes, they understood. Boy, did they understand. The actual comment was made to the effect that German tabloid media might actually report more news than the US media does O_o (It's pretty farking sad that pretty much the best media outlet to watch re the quake...was, up until the announcement of OMFG MELTDOWN, the goddamn Weather Channel for crying out loud. And of course the Weather Channel has now turned into the Search And Rescue Channel, that is, when it's not being the Blue-Collar Major Project Construction Channel, The "Let's See What TV Show We Can Make In Alaska And/Or The Northwest Territories of Canada" Channel, Or The General Stormgasm Channel (the latter being one of the rare precious times that they actually show anything resembling weather coverage when most of Dixie Alley isn't being actively hoovered--and THAT normally only when they have Stormgasm Reporters on the spot...will say it before, will say it again...Jim Cantore shows up to your town, just leave, just walk away, because it's gonna be gone soon enough)...so Gods only knows if they'd deign to show coverage when (say) Cascadia blows. Might have to rely on the Canadian coverage through CBC or (gods forbid) the Weather Network...
 
2012-06-30 03:10:32 AM

daveinsurgent: How can health care that is driven by profit provide the best care?

Isn't it always in the interest of the insurers and what have you to pay the least amount as possible. Once they have your premiums... why would they willingly tolerate an expense without first exercising every possible avenue for withholding coverage. How can anyone think this is desirable state of things?


Answer: remove insurance.
 
2012-06-30 07:14:37 AM

daveinsurgent: How can health care that is driven by profit provide the best care?

Isn't it always in the interest of the insurers and what have you to pay the least amount as possible. Once they have your premiums... why would they willingly tolerate an expense without first exercising every possible avenue for withholding coverage. How can anyone think this is desirable state of things?


That's a fantastic point, why would they willingly tolerate an expense? If they find themselves short shafting customers too much, they will fall outside of the 80/20 split permitted by the ACA and subject to fines in excess of the difference... mind you, this doesn't stop them from jacking up premiums, paying doctors more, and making more on top of that (still at the 80/20), but it does address the reticence to pay that we have frequently seen as part of high-margin, high-profit HMOs in the past.
 
2012-06-30 08:06:00 AM

daveinsurgent: How can health care that is driven by profit provide the best care?

Isn't it always in the interest of the insurers and what have you to pay the least amount as possible. Once they have your premiums... why would they willingly tolerate an expense without first exercising every possible avenue for withholding coverage. How can anyone think this is desirable state of things?


Basic logic has no place here! THIS IS A HEALTH CARE THREAD!

/getting any profit out of health care (beyond salaries, obviously) makes sick people poor and poor people dead.
 
2012-06-30 08:42:21 AM

j__z: I do like Stewart, but I get tired of hearing about Foxnews on his show.


If you have watched it, then you have just perfectly highlighted the point of the segment. I hope this is a "That's the joke!" moment.
 
2012-06-30 08:50:06 AM

Wasteland: Colbert's take, for those interested (and too lazy to go look for it).


Thanks! You'd be my hero, if I weren't too lazy to have a hero.
 
2012-06-30 11:24:13 AM

bdub77: I don't know why anyone bothers to watch CNN anymore.


No one bothers to watch CNN anymore. Haven't you seen their viewership? down like 40% from last year?
 
2012-07-01 01:57:58 AM

Phil Moskowitz: No one bothers to watch CNN anymore. Haven't you seen their viewership? down like 40% from last year?


Did you see what they did when SCOTUS broke to announce the Obamacare ruling?

/I said to my girlfriend "jeez, you got a big pussy. Jeez, you got a big pussy"
 
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