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2012-06-29 10:33:49 AM
11 votes:
Wouldn't have happened if they had critical thinking skills.
2012-06-29 10:44:52 AM
10 votes:
FTA: "I think the intent is that the Republican Party is opposed to the values clarification method that serves the purpose of challenging students beliefs and undermine parental authority," he said.

Of course, there's no mention of the "values clarification method," which was apparently introduced in the 1960s and out-of-vogue even by the late 1980s. Instead, the platform language refers to critical thinking, Higher Order Thinking Skills, and Outcome-Based Education. So, even given what the spokescritter says, it implies that the GOP is actually opposed to anything that goes to "challenging the student's fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority". Furthermore, it suggests that they're not interested in whether that is the intent for introducing it, but merely whether it can "serve the purpose" -- language even worse than the original. And, as it happens: Yes, one inherent hazard is that critical thinking can challenge a student's "fixed beliefs". Such challenge has little effect when the beliefs have a solid foundation; it's only when the fixed belief is such absolute bullshiat that it can't have a solid foundation that there's going to be an impact. Similarly, it can challenge parental authority if the parent is using that authority to sign off on "the sky is green" bullshiat. (Well, except in a few places near the leakier petroleum refineries.)

However, that's only a problem if you value "authority" over "truth".
Oh, wait.... this is the Texas GOP!

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2012-06-29 11:37:30 AM
5 votes:
On Homosexuality:
We affirm that the practice of homosexuality tears at the fabric of society and contributes to the breakdown of the family unit. Homosexual behavior is contrary to the fundamental, unchanging truths that have been ordained by God, recognized by our country's founders, and shared by the majority of Texans.


God???? The last time I checked this wasn't a theocracy assholes. Also I don't recall anything about homosexuality in the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution.

On the UN Treaty on the Rights of the Child:
We unequivocally oppose the United States Senate's ratification of the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child.


Wow. Just wow.
2012-06-29 10:29:32 AM
5 votes:
I think Texas Republicans have accidentally the whole thing for a long time.
2012-06-29 12:12:21 PM
3 votes:
As much as I hate to say I agree with the Texas Republicans, there's this:

We urge review and revision of those portions of the USA Patriot Act, and related executive and military orders and directives that erode constitutional rights and essential liberties of citizens. Emergency War Powers and Martial Law Declarations - We strongly urge Congress to repeal the War Powers Act and end our declared state of emergency. Any Declaration of Martial law should be approved by Congress.

Though how about instead of "review and revise" we just "repeal"?
2012-06-29 11:18:39 AM
3 votes:
If it wasn't an accident, it's certainly a big change from the 2010 platform..

2010:
Knowledge-Based Education - The primary purpose of public schools is to teach critical thinking skills, reading, writing, arithmetic, phonics, history, science, and character as well as knowledge-based education, not job training. We support knowledge-based curriculum standards and tests. We support successful career and technology programs, but oppose mandatory career training. We oppose Outcome-Based Education (OBE) and similar programs. Further, because of an aging U.S. population and global competition, and because much of today's education teaches children to be employees or perhaps at best managers for employers, we encourage the teaching of entrepreneurial skills and investment skills.

2012
Knowledge-Based Education - We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student's fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority.
2012-06-29 04:13:25 PM
2 votes:

jonny_q: So, we *could* read the platform clauses in context, instead of knee-jerk bashing people we disagree with, but that would require higher critical thinking.


I've read the entire 22 page platform, and frankly the education section isn't even the most horrifying. The entire document is filled with positions that are not only reprehensible, but in many places directly contradict one another. Any bashing is well deserved, knee-jerk or not.
2012-06-29 04:10:37 PM
2 votes:
To keep them in control was not difficult. A few agents of the Thought Police moved always among them, spreading false rumours and marking down and eliminating the few individuals who were judged capable of becoming dangerous; but no attempt was made to indoctrinate them with the ideology of the Party. It was not desirable that the proles should have strong political feelings. All that was required of them was a primitive patriotism which could be appealed to whenever it was necessary to make them accept longer working-hours or shorter rations. And even when they became discontented, as they sometimes did, their discontent led nowhere, because being without general ideas, they could only focus it on petty specific grievances. The larger evils invariably escaped their notice. The great majority of proles did not even have telescreens in their homes. 1984 Orwell.
2012-06-29 03:58:27 PM
2 votes:
critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education

...wrote the 'tards clearly lacking in critical thinking skills.

Critical thinking skills are the exact opposite of Outcome-Based Education.
2012-06-29 03:55:34 PM
2 votes:

RyansPrivates: Looking forward to the inevitable demographic shift when Texas becomes a blue state because of Hispanic (legal and illegal) immigration.


I saw an interesting graphic the other day:

www.statesman.com

(Round Rock is an Austin suburb; Plano, McKinney, Denton and Frisco are Dallas suburbs)

The newcomers tend to be young. They don't vote Republican.

The Texas GOP has generally relied on the vast white rural vote that almost always votes GOP. But cities have started swaying recently... Houston has a lesbian mayor for example. It's just a matter of time.
2012-06-29 03:52:20 PM
2 votes:
Yeah, GOP, we know what you meant. You meant that you're opposed to the teaching of rhetoric designed to undermine the strength of blind appeals to authority.

The thing is, while the relative merits of discipline versus self-direction (what this comes down to) is actually a very interesting discussion and most of us that have done some teaching have fairly complex views on the subject that we do in fact love to talk about, your history as an anti-intellectual force has somewhat ironically deprived you of the Ethos required for us to take you seriously.

Basically, we're going to have fun making fun of what you said instead of addressing what you meant because you've given us no evidence that the details of your position will be in any way worth our time, and loads of evidence indicates the contrary. Whereas making fun of the gaffe at least nets us some entertainment.
2012-06-29 03:46:06 PM
2 votes:

arcas: We affirm that the practice of homosexuality tears at the fabric of society and contributes to the breakdown of the family unit.

You know, I've heard lots of people use this as a reason for opposing gay rights but it seems nobody ever explains what they mean by it. How, exactly, does homosexuality contribute to the breakdown of the family unit?


It's simple: if two people of the same sex who really love each other are allowed to be public with that loving, functional relationship it will reflect poorly on the "normal" relationships.

And that reveals the hypocrisy of triple divorcees "defending the sanctity of marriage". Pondering that hypocrisy leads to critical thinking. And we all know you can't have that: it's against the party plank.
2012-06-29 03:41:32 PM
2 votes:
Looking forward to the inevitable demographic shift when Texas becomes a blue state because of Hispanic (legal and illegal) immigration.
2012-06-29 03:38:45 PM
2 votes:

arcas: How, exactly, does homosexuality contribute to the breakdown of the family unit?


can't you read? they said it, plain as day.

you're laughing now, but just you wait till the gays break down your door and tear your fabric.

curtains? gone.
bed sheets? gone.
table linen? torn to shreds.

when you and your family are sleeping and eating on the floor while your neighbors look in the window at your shame, you'll finally understand.
2012-06-29 03:28:48 PM
2 votes:
b-b-but how you can indoctrinate your children if you allow them to think critically?!?!?
2012-06-29 02:13:56 PM
2 votes:
Actually, I think that's been the GOP's platform for the last 15 years or so, here in Texas.

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2012-06-29 12:55:24 PM
2 votes:

unyon: wingedkat: Why does the GOP oppose the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child?

Presumably because its a dictum from a foreign source that challenges American sovereignty and undermines parents, just like critical thinking does.


It also sets down in law that children are separate people with individual rights, and as such are not property of their parents. They also oppose it, no kidding, because they think it will outlaw homeschooling.

By the way, the US is one of only three countries in the world that hasn't ratified our signing of the treaty. We join the great bastions of freedom Sudan and Somalia in this exclusive club. Go USA!!
2012-06-29 12:17:57 PM
2 votes:
Someday I'm going to hire a bunch of Texans since they'll be ignorant, complacent, and will mindlessly obey any order given to them as long as I say God wants them to or whatever.
2012-06-29 11:48:00 AM
2 votes:
You accidentally leave your fly open.

You don't accidentally define education philosophy and policy.
2012-06-29 05:22:52 PM
1 votes:
So they're claiming to be stupid, rather than evil?

I'm just gonna play it safe and assume both.
2012-06-29 04:53:18 PM
1 votes:
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2012-06-29 04:38:27 PM
1 votes:
I actually agree (sort of) with one thing - homosexuals should not be granted *special* legal entitlements. But they absolutely should be given the ordinary legal entitlements that everyone else gets, like marriage rights and everything else that heterosexuals are entitled to.


/I think exceptions for hate crimes and discrimination are good too, so maybe I don't agree at all with the Republicans
//no shocker there
2012-06-29 04:27:39 PM
1 votes:
Probably already noted, but when they claim to have ACCIDENTALLY adopted a platform that opposes critical thinking skills , but then reiterate:

"I think the intent is that the Republican Party is opposed to the values clarification method that serves the purpose of challenging students beliefs and undermine parental authority,"

They didn't accidentally adopted a platform that opposes critical thinking skills.
2012-06-29 04:23:36 PM
1 votes:
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2012-06-29 04:22:24 PM
1 votes:
Well then they've been ACCIDENTALLY pushing that platform as hard as they can, for at least as long as I've been alive.

Republicans aren't just stupid, they actively hate the idea of being smart.
2012-06-29 04:19:10 PM
1 votes:

Babwa Wawa: The entire platform is 22 pages long. Did nobody read the document?


Dude, you're talking about a party that, at one point, had a guy who said he would veto any law that was longer than three pages as its leading presidential candidate. Reading long documents is clearly not their strong point.
2012-06-29 04:16:03 PM
1 votes:
Only stupid people vote for policies that work against their long term interests.

The people of Texas voted for policies that work against their long term interests.

Therefore, people in Texas are stupid.
2012-06-29 03:55:58 PM
1 votes:

jabelar: The funny thing is that if you believe that your beliefs are the truth, then you shouldn't be scare of any challenge. I certainly allow my kids to investigate beliefs that I don't believe in, because I'm pretty confident that they can figure it out.

Basically, in this case the Republicans are admitting that their belief system is too fragile to stand up to questioning.


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2012-06-29 03:51:40 PM
1 votes:

WTF Indeed: They aren't against it, they just want to look at it differently. For example, trains are part of a the socialist agenda meant to herd us all into cities where we'd have to see minorities on a daily basis, so here's what you do.

"If a privately-purchased bus, fueled by only American gas, leaves the megachurch at 11:30am, and the government-purchased bus filled with loose women and their gay friends leaves the federal office building at 11:15am going the government-mandated speed limit of 45mph. Assuming they are both equally 20 miles away, what's the average speed the bus from the megachurch will have to reach in order to beat the government bus to the abortion clinic?"


Answer:

Everyone registered Republican that day and accepted Jesus as their lord and savior. An eagle named "Small Government" flew into the room and perched atop the American Flag and shed a tear on the chalk. The pledge of allegiance was read several times, and God himself showed up and enacted a flat tax rate across the country.

The professor lost his tenure and was fired the next day. He died of the gay plague AIDS and was tossed into the lake of fire for all eternity.

Semper Fi.

p.s. close the borders.
2012-06-29 03:50:24 PM
1 votes:
The funny thing is that if you believe that your beliefs are the truth, then you shouldn't be scare of any challenge. I certainly allow my kids to investigate beliefs that I don't believe in, because I'm pretty confident that they can figure it out.

Basically, in this case the Republicans are admitting that their belief system is too fragile to stand up to questioning.
2012-06-29 03:38:51 PM
1 votes:

timujin: Though how about instead of "review and revise" we just "repeal"?


That's a stalling tactic. What they mean is "Let's bluster about it a bit until we've got a Republican president again, at which point everything will be hunkey-dory, because it isn't fascism when WE do it."
2012-06-29 03:35:44 PM
1 votes:
We affirm that the practice of homosexuality tears at the fabric of society and contributes to the breakdown of the family unit.

You know, I've heard lots of people use this as a reason for opposing gay rights but it seems nobody ever explains what they mean by it. How, exactly, does homosexuality contribute to the breakdown of the family unit?
2012-06-29 03:35:11 PM
1 votes:
How could such a weird thing get stuck into their platform like that?

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"Mmm-hmm. Better add it to the platform."

Oh, that's how.
2012-06-29 03:26:08 PM
1 votes:
Ironic tag broken?
2012-06-29 01:55:59 PM
1 votes:

MaudlinMutantMollusk: /Secede you f*ckers


Not everybody in Texas is like this. If they seceded, many people would have to uproot their families and move to a neighboring state to remain U.S. citizens.
2012-06-29 01:23:17 PM
1 votes:
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2012-06-29 12:30:24 PM
1 votes:

timujin: We strongly urge Congress to repeal the War Powers Act


Do... do they know what the War Powers Act actually does?
2012-06-29 12:22:15 PM
1 votes:
They aren't against it, they just want to look at it differently. For example, trains are part of a the socialist agenda meant to herd us all into cities where we'd have to see minorities on a daily basis, so here's what you do.

"If a privately-purchased bus, fueled by only American gas, leaves the megachurch at 11:30am, and the government-purchased bus filled with loose women and their gay friends leaves the federal office building at 11:15am going the government-mandated speed limit of 45mph. Assuming they are both equally 20 miles away, what's the average speed the bus from the megachurch will have to reach in order to beat the government bus to the abortion clinic?"
2012-06-29 11:52:37 AM
1 votes:

wingedkat: Why does the GOP oppose the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child?


Presumably because its a dictum from a foreign source that challenges American sovereignty and undermines parents, just like critical thinking does.
2012-06-29 10:53:02 AM
1 votes:

oldfarthenry: I think yer a flat-footed no-good carpet-baggin' son-of-sear-suited-manure-salesman who don't know diddly-SQUAT!


...you do know Yosemite is in Calfornia?
2012-06-29 10:48:13 AM
1 votes:

propasaurus: Wouldn't have happened if they had critical thinking skills.


And I believe we're done here

/Secede you f*ckers
 
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