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2012-06-29 12:35:05 PM  
You Youtube?
 
2012-06-29 02:33:22 PM  
I always assumed a lot of the racist, homophobic, idiotic, misspelled, grammatically poor, misogynistic and ad hominem laden verbal attacks were largely the work of 12-14 year olds. I believe this because parents of these degenerates view YouTube is a relatively safe website by comparison to many others, so they don't have a problem leaving Johny alone on the family computer in the living room while he watches sneezing baby pandas.
 
2012-06-29 03:16:21 PM  
It was a soundstage on Mars.
 
2012-06-29 03:17:29 PM  
I thought it was resolved with this:
imgs.xkcd.com

Oh, its not mandatory yet? Make it.
 
2012-06-29 03:19:03 PM  
This is bad news... for fartbongo
 
2012-06-29 03:19:20 PM  
racist i can understand. cruel maybe. But idiotic, nonsensical, and barely literate? That's pretty much the entire internets isn't it?
 
2012-06-29 03:20:09 PM  
U SUCK, SERIOUSLY GO BACK TO DORK SCHOOL, ANONYOUTUBE 4-EVA. LOL
 
2012-06-29 03:20:38 PM  
YouTube commentators are truly amongst the worst, but for my money, SeattleTimes.com has the absolute worst online community I have ever encountered. Youtube gets a little leeway because the comments are left by mostly 13 year olds, but the Times is populated by adults.

Read any story involving politics or worse, city planning, and watch the derp spin off the planet.
 
2012-06-29 03:23:30 PM  
hey guys, I'm a young rapper just starting out. I flow similar to Eminem and you are watching this video so maybe you will like my style. Check me out at douchetasticf*ckface and let me know. Thanks!
 
2012-06-29 03:23:50 PM  
Comments can very often be insulting, annoying, etc.
Like an actor reading reviews, you can either read them and take the good with the bad or you can just stop reading them.

Personally I just shake my head at the people who spend their precious time trolling YT. It is what it is, and no matter how you try and stop it, it's still going to happen.

Meh. Won't stop me from making videos.
 
2012-06-29 03:24:11 PM  
11 people must like Justin Bieber

the like bar looks like a joint
 
2012-06-29 03:25:27 PM  
no dislikes? all is right in the world.


why do you f*ckers have to bring up Justin Bieber on every video. Just STFU and listen to the song.


/yes, I spend a lot of time on youtube
 
2012-06-29 03:25:43 PM  
I would never say anything stupid on the internet.
 
2012-06-29 03:27:57 PM  
yahoo answers could use some fixing as well
 
2012-06-29 03:28:27 PM  

busy chillin': hey guys, I'm a young rapper just starting out. I flow similar to Eminem and you are watching this video so maybe you will like my style. Check me out at douchetasticf*ckface and let me know. Thanks!


The new hilariously bad video is by Chief Keef for "I Don't Like That". It's at the intersection of terrible songwriting and low budget video production... and it has 6 million views.
 
2012-06-29 03:29:34 PM  

Magnanimous_J: YouTube commentators are truly amongst the worst, but for my money, SeattleTimes.com has the absolute worst online community I have ever encountered. Youtube gets a little leeway because the comments are left by mostly 13 year olds, but the Times is populated by adults.

Read any story involving politics or worse, city planning, and watch the derp spin off the planet.


You just described every local paper/news channel's website commenters. I think it has to do with the size. A few morans can quickly dominate the smaller forums.
 
2012-06-29 03:30:44 PM  
Rapmaster2000

aaand I'm off to youtube!

preparing for the worst
 
2012-06-29 03:33:36 PM  
I've been liking USAToday comments because it's populated by the kind of people that read USAToday and it's Facebook linked so you can read a derptastic comment by a real person and then look into the world of a person you'd probably never meet in real life. It's fascinating.
 
2012-06-29 03:33:59 PM  
Youtube

You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

/just watch the videos and ignore the comments section
 
2012-06-29 03:35:32 PM  
Rapmaster2000

I somehow managed to make it to 2:31

/that song is some sh*t I don't like
 
2012-06-29 03:38:24 PM  
Racist, cruel, idiotic, nonsensical, and barely literate? Politics thread?
 
2012-06-29 03:39:29 PM  

busy chillin': Rapmaster2000

I somehow managed to make it to 2:31

/that song is some sh*t I don't like


I'm working on a version that relates to my life:

"Mutual funds with high trading fees? Man, I don't like that."
 
2012-06-29 03:41:51 PM  

Magnanimous_J: YouTube commentators are truly amongst the worst, but for my money, SeattleTimes.com has the absolute worst online community I have ever encountered. Youtube gets a little leeway because the comments are left by mostly 13 year olds, but the Times is populated by adults.

Read any story involving politics or worse, city planning, and watch the derp spin off the planet.


Any story involving a car crash, no matter what the actual cause was, will spawn an endless stream of "PPL drive to fast on that road and they need to SLOW DOWN!!!"
 
2012-06-29 03:42:52 PM  
Is this about the sexually agressive, racist, homophobe, mysogonistic, cowardly, illiterate waste of human skin video?

Because I don't know if I can afford to get that tune stuck in my head again.

/"You wished me cancer."
//"And mis-spelled cancer."
 
2012-06-29 03:44:28 PM  
For me, its a three way tie between YouTube, AICN and the Mythbusters fan boards on Discovery.com as to which
has the lowest collective IQ.
 
2012-06-29 03:47:39 PM  
Youtube renews my core belief that most people are retarded, hence half the country voting republican.
 
2012-06-29 03:48:21 PM  

Magnanimous_J: YouTube commentators are truly amongst the worst, but for my money, SeattleTimes.com has the absolute worst online community I have ever encountered. Youtube gets a little leeway because the comments are left by mostly 13 year olds, but the Times is populated by adults.

Read any story involving politics or worse, city planning, and watch the derp spin off the planet.


No! Long Island's Newday has worse. Well, I dunno, now that I think about it. Really, isn't Seattle just Long Island West?
 
2012-06-29 03:52:11 PM  
TFA touches on how anonymity enables trolling/idiocy/cruelty. It's interesting to me how FARK accounts are technically anonymous - not linked to anything else - and yet in spite of having our share of trolls/numbnuts/troublemakers there's a surprisingly high signal-to-noise ratio here.

I think it's still reputation based: hang out here long enough, and every thread you go into, you'll see a bunch of FARKnicks you know well, for good or ill, and a lot of them have been around and active for years.
 
2012-06-29 03:55:31 PM  

K.B.O. Winston: Is this about the sexually agressive, racist, homophobe, mysogonistic, cowardly, illiterate waste of human skin video?

Because I don't know if I can afford to get that tune stuck in my head again.

/"You wished me cancer."
//"And mis-spelled cancer."


Good song - terrible earworm.
 
2012-06-29 04:03:20 PM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: Youtube

You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.


Sounds like you've never been to 4chan.
 
2012-06-29 04:06:53 PM  
This is why being a grammar Nazi has such high entertainment value. I have so much fun winding-up illiterate posters on YT, Yahoo and other boards. Reminding them that it's their mother tongue they can't communicate in is so satisfying.

/Not that I really give a fark
//Committed to public service
 
2012-06-29 04:09:37 PM  

Endive Wombat: I believe this because parents of these degenerates view YouTube is a relatively safe website by comparison to many others, so they don't have a problem leaving Johny alone on the family computer in the living room while he watches sneezing baby pandas.


images2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-06-29 04:09:48 PM  
"Racist, cruel, idiotic, nonsensical, and barely literate".

Has the Tea Party finally discovered YouTube?
 
2012-06-29 04:09:58 PM  
Youtube values their comments and the DNC values their votes.
 
2012-06-29 04:11:23 PM  

Farxist Marxist: This is why being a grammar Nazi has such high entertainment value. I have so much fun winding-up illiterate posters on YT, Yahoo and other boards. Reminding them that it's their mother tongue they can't communicate in is so satisfying.

/Not that I really give a fark
//Committed to public service


I pretend that I think they're immigrants and then congratulate them for learning English. It's especially fun to find a conservative poster and say something like "A lot of people complain about immigrants not learning the language, but it's refreshing to see someone like yourself trying so hard to speak English. Kudos to you, Jose."

It drives people through the ceiling.
 
2012-06-29 04:20:45 PM  

Fuggin Bizzy: TFA touches on how anonymity enables trolling/idiocy/cruelty. It's interesting to me how FARK accounts are technically anonymous - not linked to anything else - and yet in spite of having our share of trolls/numbnuts/troublemakers there's a surprisingly high signal-to-noise ratio here.

I think it's still reputation based: hang out here long enough, and every thread you go into, you'll see a bunch of FARKnicks you know well, for good or ill, and a lot of them have been around and active for years.


There's a difference in scale,too. When you've got a narrower audience to begin with, and a smaller group of posters, they develop a feeling of being a part of a forum community. It doesn't matter whether you post under your given name or widely recognized identity or under another more anonymous handle, if members get to feeling more like they're a part of a group, they police themselves and each other better. You might feel like a Farker. Next to no one feels like a Youtuber. You might grow to care how other Farker's view or respect you and how your posts affect the Fark experience. On Youtube, you're just another poster, no one cares who you are and you don't care who the other posters are. On smaller sites like Fark, you get a few drop in trolls, and a few well-known trolls, but they're easier to ignore and to dismiss and to drive out of the community.

And on Youtube, you're going to get more folks who will feed the trolls and encourage idiots,too. If you go to a witty site, you're not going to net nearly the attention from a dumb comment as you would just flinging it out to the masses on Youtube. If you post "Ghey. LOL!" in a fark thread, it's going to be a lot less well received for your (minimal) time and effort than it would be on youtube. There's not going to be a whole slew of other idiots who will cheer for your misspelled stupidity or text-speak random slur. You get more feedback for posting something valuable. And you feel like the feedback means more,too, coming from folks you feel like you know a little more.

Plus, a smaller site is easier to moderate for quality better. You couldn't moderate every low-quality comment on youtube. You can pitch the lame and stupid and hateful comments and wield the ban hammer more effectively on a smaller site. Both because of the sheer difference in volume and in that you know who's who and who's worth letting a comment stay and who's just a drop in dumper or a constant troll.
 
2012-06-29 04:34:02 PM  

Rev. Skarekroe: Keizer_Ghidorah: Youtube

You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

Sounds like you've never been to 4chan.


I have. Only /b/ comes close to the horror of Youtube.
 
2012-06-29 04:34:33 PM  
Tea party thread subby? (clicks story)huh, internet tough guy filter.
 
2012-06-29 04:36:09 PM  

Kenny B: Racist, cruel, idiotic, nonsensical, and barely literate? Politics thread?


That's what I was thinking too. The article isn't much better, eg."...its [YouTube's] comment sections are widely regarded as cesspools." or "Better production values, in turn, make the site more attractive to advertisers. Vicious commenters break that virtuous cycle.". I think I can see what's really at stake in Ryan Tate's opinion and it doesn't have anything to do with virtue.

So, setting aside Ryan Tate's "virtuous" concern with advertising $$$, what's his objection? Comment sections are where people speak out. Not all of them are nice people. We get to see the good and the bad, not just a sanitized, censored version of society.

The milquetoast writers at Wired (Ryan Tate) and HuffPost (Justin Isaf) probably faint each and every day at work when they read an obscene word in a bathroom stall. Isaf: "I would love to see Google put their search and algorithm know-how to use to create a more safe space where people can engage in a meaningful conversation and be themselves on video without worry of needing therapy afterward." Hahaha. Maybe both of these writers are actually a 75 yr old member of the Westboro Baptist Church.
 
2012-06-29 04:37:25 PM  
I keep waiting for Google to implement Plus on YouTube comments. Only show me the comments written by, or in response to, people I'm actually connected to in some way (say, up to two- or three-degrees-of-separation from my Circles) and the comments by strangers that have been most +1'ed.
 
2012-06-29 04:39:48 PM  
Even if they fix the comments, the idiot brigade will still be able to post "PROOF OF JEW WORLD ORDER FREEMASONS 666," which is just the first 9 minutes and 59 seconds of National Treasure II where one character explains that the Founding Fathers were all Freemasons who are actually the Knights Templar.

Free speech wins?
 
2012-06-29 04:44:25 PM  

BumpInTheNight: I thought it was resolved with this:
[imgs.xkcd.com image 462x513]

Oh, its not mandatory yet? Make it.


Came for the XKCD, but not this one which I hadn't seen. Glad to see his youtube hate is as relentless as my own.
 
2012-06-29 04:46:44 PM  
But how else will we learn how babby formed? Instain mothers!?
 
2012-06-29 04:50:12 PM  

indylaw: Even if they fix the comments, the idiot brigade will still be able to post "PROOF OF JEW WORLD ORDER FREEMASONS 666," which is just the first 9 minutes and 59 seconds of National Treasure II where one character explains that the Founding Fathers were all Freemasons who are actually the Knights Templar.

Free speech wins?


Agree. Comment sections are where people speak out. Not all of it's good, but at least it's not sanitized. Idiotic article, as well (see my post upthread).
 
2012-06-29 04:50:38 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: For me, its a three way tie between YouTube, AICN and the Mythbusters fan boards on Discovery.com as to which
has the lowest collective IQ.


Combined, they barely break into double digits.
 
2012-06-29 04:54:44 PM  
The best collection of terrible comments and forum posts are gathered on fstdt.net (Fundies Say the Darndest Things). It will hurt your brain.
 
2012-06-29 05:04:06 PM  

Fuggin Bizzy: TFA touches on how anonymity enables trolling/idiocy/cruelty. It's interesting to me how FARK accounts are technically anonymous - not linked to anything else - and yet in spite of having our share of trolls/numbnuts/troublemakers there's a surprisingly high signal-to-noise ratio here.

I think it's still reputation based: hang out here long enough, and every thread you go into, you'll see a bunch of FARKnicks you know well, for good or ill, and a lot of them have been around and active for years.


for the bulk of the short time i'm here i honestly thought the point of the joint was to simply express the worst thing one could think of. i mis-read the high level of snark for blatant cruelty and meanness. it was just a handful of weeks ago i caught on that there is some good discussion here from time-time.

/not the brightest bulb in the litter, me
 
2012-06-29 05:04:22 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Farxist Marxist: This is why being a grammar Nazi has such high entertainment value. I have so much fun winding-up illiterate posters on YT, Yahoo and other boards. Reminding them that it's their mother tongue they can't communicate in is so satisfying.

/Not that I really give a fark
//Committed to public service

I pretend that I think they're immigrants and then congratulate them for learning English. It's especially fun to find a conservative poster and say something like "A lot of people complain about immigrants not learning the language, but it's refreshing to see someone like yourself trying so hard to speak English. Kudos to you, Jose."

It drives people through the ceiling.


You have opened another universe to me. I'm so grateful.
 
2012-06-29 05:06:54 PM  
I'm too proud and too much of a grammar Nazi not to proofread everything before I post it. But I would venture to guess that most people don't care if it's correct or not just as long as they think they got their point across.

AnD CaN anYonE eXplAIn tO me WhY peoPle tyPe liKe ThiS? Seriously are they have a farking seizure?
 
2012-06-29 05:17:23 PM  

KrispyKritter: that there is some good discussion here from time-time.


Yeah, but who has the time to read all the Caturday threads?
 
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