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2012-06-29 09:45:32 AM
Weird. In our league, a fair ball over the fence was a chance to jog into 3rd, chug a beer and walk home.
 
2012-06-29 09:57:25 AM
I played in a game where you were only alowed like 3 over-the-fence home runs in a game.
 
2012-06-29 10:01:43 AM
I remember playing in a bar league where the manager would go over the batting averages at the bar afterwards....I remember one incredible baseball player saying.."it's slow pitch shiathead...your suppose to be batting .750"
 
2012-06-29 10:02:56 AM
Sounds like lower league, like C-D league. Keeps the goddamn Tuesday night heroes from playing down their ability to crush the ball. They should be in A or B league, but they play with the scrubs in the lower leagues so they can win.
You'll see them get up to the plate and jack it over the fence, then they'll swagger around the baseline like they're frikkin' A-Rod.
Whateva, ya damn morans... who gives a shiat, it's beer league.
 
2012-06-29 10:05:17 AM
Actually looks at the video...
Umm, yeah, that's not beer league.
 
2012-06-29 10:06:02 AM
Most, if not all the players in that game, can put one out in any major league stadium.
 
2012-06-29 10:09:25 AM
OK, let's go over the ground rules. You can't leave first until you chug a beer. And then scoring, you have to chug a beer. You have to chug a beer after all odd-numbered innings. Oh, and the 4th inning is the beer inning.

Hey, we know how to play softball!
 
2012-06-29 10:11:33 AM
not too unusual. in our league, the "A" teams can hit 5 a game, after that it's an out. the lower "B" and "C" teams can hit 3, then it's an out. If certain teams had no limit, games would literally never end
 
2012-06-29 10:11:49 AM
There's a lot of leagues that limit the number of home runs (over fence) you can hit. It's not news, it's Fark.
 
2012-06-29 10:15:25 AM

The5thElement: Most, if not all the players in that game, can put one out in any major league stadium.


They had a home run contest for the big boppers at a Braves game last year. That was something to watch. More fun than the home run derby at the All Star Game.
 
2012-06-29 10:22:54 AM
It's not bizarre. It keeps the jocks deliberately playing in leagues below their level from making a 6-inning game last 5 hours as they keep hitting the ball over the fence.

My favorite softball CSB is running into these types as a middle schooler in a church league. A murderer's row of jocks with inferiority complexes in a goddamn church league. We were down something like 18-0 when my friend and I finally stopped the shutout. He beat out a single, I lined a double to the opposite field (I had a weird inside-out swing as a kid), and that lit a fire under our leadoff hitter. He crushed one into the gap and we both scored. We didn't have a chance in hell of beating these guys (too many kids and beer guts), but they didn't like having their shutout bid broken up by two skinny middle schoolers at the bottom of the lineup.
 
2012-06-29 10:26:24 AM

dragonchild: It's not bizarre. It keeps the jocks deliberately playing in leagues below their level from making a 6-inning game last 5 hours as they keep hitting the ball over the fence.

My favorite softball CSB is running into these types as a middle schooler in a church league. A murderer's row of jocks with inferiority complexes in a goddamn church league. We were down something like 18-0 when my friend and I finally stopped the shutout. He beat out a single, I lined a double to the opposite field (I had a weird inside-out swing as a kid), and that lit a fire under our leadoff hitter. He crushed one into the gap and we both scored. We didn't have a chance in hell of beating these guys (too many kids and beer guts), but they didn't like having their shutout bid broken up by two skinny middle schoolers at the bottom of the lineup.


Some of the best fights I have ever seen over slow-pitch was in church leagues, including preachers.
 
2012-06-29 10:27:15 AM
Why is that ball so small?

One of these bad boys would solve their "HR problem" right quick

3.bp.blogspot.com

saves a lot of money on mitts too.
 
2012-06-29 10:37:35 AM
We have this rule, no hits over the fence. A big reason for this is it's a city league and the fence backs up to a 55mph highway, I have seen them go over before and every time you are praying no one hits a car. The main play fields have fences at 400' and the left field fences are 40' tall.

Does anyone else have the bizarre rule that you start at bat with 1 strike and 1 ball?
 
2012-06-29 10:39:59 AM

phimuskapsi: We have this rule, no hits over the fence. A big reason for this is it's a city league and the fence backs up to a 55mph highway, I have seen them go over before and every time you are praying no one hits a car. The main play fields have fences at 400' and the left field fences are 40' tall.

Does anyone else have the bizarre rule that you start at bat with 1 strike and 1 ball?


we've got that 1-1 count start in our league. i like it. no need to look at a ton of pitches when the ball is moving 8 miles an hour
 
2012-06-29 10:52:36 AM

phimuskapsi: Does anyone else have the bizarre rule that you start at bat with 1 strike and 1 ball?


Most of the women's leagues and co-ed leagues around where I live play with this rule. Games are 70 minutes or 6 innings, so that's the reason.
 
2012-06-29 10:55:04 AM
Link

Can't believe this wasn't posted yet.....
 
2012-06-29 11:02:23 AM

fark_me_running: phimuskapsi: We have this rule, no hits over the fence. A big reason for this is it's a city league and the fence backs up to a 55mph highway, I have seen them go over before and every time you are praying no one hits a car. The main play fields have fences at 400' and the left field fences are 40' tall.

Does anyone else have the bizarre rule that you start at bat with 1 strike and 1 ball?

we've got that 1-1 count start in our league. i like it. no need to look at a ton of pitches when the ball is moving 8 miles an hour


Yea, our leagues went to that. Hated it at first, then got used to it. Same with the yellow balls.
 
2012-06-29 11:09:03 AM

phimuskapsi: We have this rule, no hits over the fence. A big reason for this is it's a city league and the fence backs up to a 55mph highway, I have seen them go over before and every time you are praying no one hits a car. The main play fields have fences at 400' and the left field fences are 40' tall.

Does anyone else have the bizarre rule that you start at bat with 1 strike and 1 ball?


I haven't played in a league that didn't start every at bat with a 1-1 count.
 
2012-06-29 11:10:14 AM

jchic: fark_me_running: phimuskapsi: We have this rule, no hits over the fence. A big reason for this is it's a city league and the fence backs up to a 55mph highway, I have seen them go over before and every time you are praying no one hits a car. The main play fields have fences at 400' and the left field fences are 40' tall.

Does anyone else have the bizarre rule that you start at bat with 1 strike and 1 ball?

we've got that 1-1 count start in our league. i like it. no need to look at a ton of pitches when the ball is moving 8 miles an hour

Yea, our leagues went to that. Hated it at first, then got used to it. Same with the yellow balls.


We also start with 1-1 and use yellow balls. We don't have the X number of HR over the fence rule because we don't have fences, just a bunch of fields with backstops and outfielders playing into each other. There was a big hitter on another team that made it so I always had to play just outside of the next infield. So it was either a 400'+ out or in the gap HR.
 
2012-06-29 11:14:27 AM

Maud Dib: Sounds like lower league, like C-D league. Keeps the goddamn Tuesday night heroes from playing down their ability to crush the ball. They should be in A or B league, but they play with the scrubs in the lower leagues so they can win.
You'll see them get up to the plate and jack it over the fence, then they'll swagger around the baseline like they're frikkin' A-Rod.
Whateva, ya damn morans... who gives a shiat, it's beer league.


Yep, so they can win and qualify for tournaments with a 30-1 record.
 
2012-06-29 11:29:50 AM
Why don't they just play with a 16 inch ball, no mitts?
 
2012-06-29 11:49:43 AM
Next you're going to tell me that they play with 4 outfielders and you're not allowed to steal bases.
 
2012-06-29 12:02:37 PM
I play in an E-Rec league, and everyone's a 6'2" triathlete. Stupid fittest city in the country.
 
2012-06-29 01:31:24 PM

InfrasonicTom: phimuskapsi: We have this rule, no hits over the fence. A big reason for this is it's a city league and the fence backs up to a 55mph highway, I have seen them go over before and every time you are praying no one hits a car. The main play fields have fences at 400' and the left field fences are 40' tall.

Does anyone else have the bizarre rule that you start at bat with 1 strike and 1 ball?

I haven't played in a league that didn't start every at bat with a 1-1 count.


Why wouldn't it just be 2-strike strike out and 3-ball walks?

/every time I've played there's no such thing as a walk
//hell, if it's in the other batter's box, walk across the plate and hit it
 
2012-06-29 02:00:56 PM
There is no league that starts with 1 ball and 1 strike... they all have only 2 strikes and 3 balls.. (yes there is a difference when calcing the totals because of foul ball rules)...

The only way to segregate amatures is by home run rules so that similair level players give each other competition.

Been this way for 20+ years.
 
2012-06-29 02:05:40 PM

IAmRight: InfrasonicTom: phimuskapsi: We have this rule, no hits over the fence. A big reason for this is it's a city league and the fence backs up to a 55mph highway, I have seen them go over before and every time you are praying no one hits a car. The main play fields have fences at 400' and the left field fences are 40' tall.

Does anyone else have the bizarre rule that you start at bat with 1 strike and 1 ball?

I haven't played in a league that didn't start every at bat with a 1-1 count.

Why wouldn't it just be 2-strike strike out and 3-ball walks?


It is, technically, a 2-strike strike out and a 3-ball walk. However, it's easier to explain to teams that they start with a 1-1 count.

CSB time, our Class A championship game last year was ended with an over-the-fence out. Final score - 19-17.

/slowpitch softball umpire for 3 years
//our league has limit of 3 over-the-fence homeruns per team per game
///keeps power teams from running away with the game
 
2012-06-29 02:47:26 PM

mcsestretch: IAmRight: InfrasonicTom: phimuskapsi: We have this rule, no hits over the fence. A big reason for this is it's a city league and the fence backs up to a 55mph highway, I have seen them go over before and every time you are praying no one hits a car. The main play fields have fences at 400' and the left field fences are 40' tall.

Does anyone else have the bizarre rule that you start at bat with 1 strike and 1 ball?

I haven't played in a league that didn't start every at bat with a 1-1 count.

Why wouldn't it just be 2-strike strike out and 3-ball walks?

It is, technically, a 2-strike strike out and a 3-ball walk. However, it's easier to explain to teams that they start with a 1-1 count.

CSB time, our Class A championship game last year was ended with an over-the-fence out. Final score - 19-17.

/slowpitch softball umpire for 3 years
//our league has limit of 3 over-the-fence homeruns per team per game
///keeps power teams from running away with the game


University of Michigan's IM softball league has an explicit "start at 1 and 1" count rule.
 
2012-06-29 04:50:11 PM
After reading TFA, what stuck was this comment:

I think we just identified the worst job in sports: pitching to a 300 lb. guy who, by rule, needs to hit the ball as hard, straight and low as possible.
 
2012-06-29 04:52:36 PM
I'm in a 12 inch and a 16 inch co-ed recreational league. We start with a 1-1 count in both of them. Neither have fences so if you get it over the outfielders you have a good chance of rounding the bases.

Our team has a strict no-walk rule though. We don't pay $70 a season per person per season to stand there with the bat on our shoulder. Our main rule is just to have fun, but it sucks when you play a team that takes it way too seriously and extends the game by trying to take a million walks. The ball is going 2mph, just run up to it and smack it as long as it's anywhere near the plate.

It's always satisfying to beat the douchebag teams, but we prefer to play against other evenly matched teams that like to have fun.
 
2012-06-29 04:54:10 PM

meanmutton:
University of Michigan's IM softball league has an explicit "start at 1 and 1" count rule.


Different leagues are different, homie. USSSA is a 0-0 count.

Page 18 - Batter - refers to the offensive player who takes a position in the Batter's Box with a 0-0 count. The batter walks on 3 balls and is out on 2 strikes.
 
2012-06-29 05:25:57 PM
Why was the pitcher wearing a farking hockey goalie's mask? Maybe it has something to do with the way he limps off the pitching plate.

Also, you didn't need a "start with a 1-1 count" or "10 over-the-fence-limit" when you played against these guys.
 
2012-06-29 08:54:29 PM

puckrock2000: Why was the pitcher wearing a farking hockey goalie's mask? Maybe it has something to do with the way he limps off the pitching plate.

Also, you didn't need a "start with a 1-1 count" or "10 over-the-fence-limit" when you played against these guys.


Just a guess, but I'm gonna say it's got something to do this mandatory line-drive rule.
 
2012-06-29 09:39:33 PM
Watched a guy attack an umpire in a softball game once for calling him for the same thing. He physically attacked him. Dude was nuts.

/CSB
 
2012-06-29 09:58:23 PM
I used to hate on softball players.

Then I realized instead of trying to live vicariously through your kids and becoming a giant douche, you instead try to have your own with your beer gut.

Bless you.

/has a beer gut
 
2012-06-29 11:45:57 PM
 
2012-06-30 01:21:27 AM
In a previous life, I ran the local adult softball leagues for the city. I decided to add the 1-1 count after watching games drag on because a few douchebags thought that looking at pitches was studly or something. A few of them complained and I would ask them if they were proud of working the count in slow pitch softball. It usually shut them up.

Same thing with the homerun rule. We added the 1up rule because games were dragging on and it did level the playing field a bit.

My leagues were designated with the A-D levels, but the best teams were probably C level at best. The vast majority of the teams were strictly rec level and I tried to make sure those guys had a good time and get as many ABs they could in 70 minutes. For some guys, softball night was their only fun night out.
 
2012-06-30 03:50:11 AM
Link

Jim Rome on Softball Guy (funny even if you hate Romey)
 
2012-06-30 04:15:29 AM

SlagginOff: I'm in a 12 inch and a 16 inch co-ed recreational league.


I'm guessing you're more excited in the 16" league. Ladies probably prefer that one, too (no matter what they say.)

But what I came here to say is, didn't MAD predict this years ago? I don't recall all the specifics, but I think it was suggestions to improve baseball. One was to make hitting the ball over the fence an out rather than a home run.

Why? Because it's an arbitrary rule--no real reason it should be one or the other--and it's more exciting. Do fans really pay money to watch 9 guys stand around while a 10th guy runs around in a circle?
 
2012-06-30 09:23:37 AM
Yeah, the pitcher wearing a hockey mask is great, he should probably be in full goalie gear. Pitching to guys like that has to be the worst feeling in the world. I don't even like pitching to scrubs in softball.

Played a game Thursday and had an opposing player ask if tagging up was an actual rule. Just get off the field. That's what happens when you have a softball game between two different Whole Foods stores.
 
2012-07-01 10:43:47 AM
Thought of this, for some reason.

i5.tinypic.com
 
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