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(Atlanta Journal Constitution)   UGA running back arrested on felony weapons charges, including concealed firearm and altered serial number. Yes, that one. Color me Red and Black and not surprised in the slightest. Tag is for, well, take your pick   (blogs.ajc.com) divider line 52
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2012-06-29 09:41:33 AM
www.tomandlara.com

with a commanding lead.
 
2012-06-29 10:17:41 AM
I never understood this. In places like GA you have to go out of your way to break gun laws, that's how lax they are. He could have a permit from Utah or Florida or wherever and buy a gun via private sale and not mess with the serial number. Boom. There go the felonies. He could have had the gun in his trunk or locked glove compartment and they probably wouldn't have had anything on him.

/this is what you get for consenting to searches
 
2012-06-29 10:37:04 AM
And once again, Spurrier is proven right.
 
2012-06-29 10:44:07 AM

Fark It: I never understood this. In places like GA you have to go out of your way to break gun laws, that's how lax they are. He could have a permit from Utah or Florida or wherever and buy a gun via private sale and not mess with the serial number. Boom. There go the felonies. He could have had the gun in his trunk or locked glove compartment and they probably wouldn't have had anything on him.

/this is what you get for consenting to searches


Less street cred, Dawg.
 
2012-06-29 10:57:16 AM

Fark It: I never understood this. In places like GA you have to go out of your way to break gun laws, that's how lax they are. He could have a permit from Utah or Florida or wherever and buy a gun via private sale and not mess with the serial number. Boom. There go the felonies. He could have had the gun in his trunk or locked glove compartment and they probably wouldn't have had anything on him.

/this is what you get for consenting to searches


You aren't allowed to have guns on college campuses in Georgia. That's one of the big reasons that it has been open season lately on Georgia Tech and Georgia State students.
 
2012-06-29 11:01:37 AM

Sully11: And once again, Spurrier is proven right.


I can't find it online, what did Spurrier say about Crowell?
 
2012-06-29 11:16:19 AM

TheGreatGazoo: Fark It: I never understood this. In places like GA you have to go out of your way to break gun laws, that's how lax they are. He could have a permit from Utah or Florida or wherever and buy a gun via private sale and not mess with the serial number. Boom. There go the felonies. He could have had the gun in his trunk or locked glove compartment and they probably wouldn't have had anything on him.

/this is what you get for consenting to searches

You aren't allowed to have guns on college campuses in Georgia. That's one of the big reasons that it has been open season lately on Georgia Tech and Georgia State students.


That prohibition is completely irrelevant to this case. He wasn't 'on campus'. He was driving on a public right-of-way that happens to run through the campus. Here's the applicable section straight from Georgia law:

A person who is licensed in accordance with Code Section 16-11-129 or issued a permit pursuant to Code Section 43-38-10, when such person carries or picks up a student at a school building, school function, or school property or on a bus or other transportation furnished by the school or a person who is licensed in accordance with Code Section 16-11-129 or issued a permit pursuant to Code Section 43-38-10 when he or she has any weapon legally kept within a vehicle when such vehicle is parked at such school property or is in transit through a designated school zone

If he had possessed both a valid permit and a legal weapon (no altered serial #) he would have been just fine.

Oh, and a Luger? A for-real German Luger? That could potentially be a very valuable weapon. I wonder how it managed to wind up in his car?
 
2012-06-29 11:21:55 AM
Jasper Sanks approves.

/Bring on Keith Marshall!
 
2012-06-29 11:28:59 AM

Arbeit Macht Freefall: Sully11: And once again, Spurrier is proven right.

I can't find it online, what did Spurrier say about Crowell?


Not about Crowell specifically, but when asked about moving the Carolina-Georgia game to later in the season:

I don't know. I sort of always liked playing them that second game because you could always count on them having two or three key players suspended.
 
2012-06-29 11:29:05 AM

Arbeit Macht Freefall: Sully11: And once again, Spurrier is proven right.

I can't find it online, what did Spurrier say about Crowell?


He didn't say it about Crowell, he said it about UGA in general.

"I don't know. I sort of always liked playing them that second game because you could always count on them having two or three key players suspended," Spurrier told ESPN.com.

I really don't know why the comment was newsworthy. He only said what everyone in the SEC already knew.
 
2012-06-29 11:37:02 AM
Impossible. Mark Richt only recruits fine, upstanding gentlemen. This article is fake.
 
2012-06-29 11:47:02 AM
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2012-06-29 11:53:44 AM

Sully11: And once again, Spurrier is proven right.


Nice job he's doing at SC keeping his players incidents quiet, I love the fact SC is still average to below average while he's there and its not getting better for them.

My problem was the comment by Derrick Henry, did he actually say ".....because not everyone was raised the same?" What a tool, you mean neither one of you were raised to have common sense?

And I think Tennessee has had more players arrested since last season ended so they lead the fulmers cup.
 
2012-06-29 11:54:53 AM

Sully11: Arbeit Macht Freefall: Sully11: And once again, Spurrier is proven right.

I can't find it online, what did Spurrier say about Crowell?

Not about Crowell specifically, but when asked about moving the Carolina-Georgia game to later in the season:

I don't know. I sort of always liked playing them that second game because you could always count on them having two or three key players suspended.


Nice
 
2012-06-29 11:58:35 AM

steamingpile: And I think Tennessee has had more players arrested since last season ended so they lead the fulmers cup.


Nope. Arkansas is leading by a mile (or should I say a few burglaries and a crashed harley).
 
2012-06-29 12:19:00 PM
You know what the worst thing about Spurrier is, he practically begged to be the coach at UGA. But UGA administration thought "He wasn't the right guy to represent UGA football," or some crap. And what did Spurrier do? Made it his mission to beat our ass because of it.

/Go Dawgs
//smdh
 
2012-06-29 12:26:10 PM

Harry Zach OBalls: You know what the worst thing about Spurrier is, he practically begged to be the coach at UGA. But UGA administration thought "He wasn't the right guy to represent UGA football," or some crap. And what did Spurrier do? Made it his mission to beat our ass because of it.

/Go Dawgs
//smdh


He hasn't done a good job of it since going to SC, I think he's won twice, if we lose that game we know how bad the team really is because even an average team can beat SC. He's just pissed because UGA denied him a NC while playing QB at Florida.
 
2012-06-29 12:30:49 PM
Ahhhh fark, one of people in the car with him is supposedly Josh Harvey-Clemens, that's worse than Isaiah who I was not impressed with last year since he disappeared in big games.
 
2012-06-29 01:01:39 PM

Fark It: I never understood this. In places like GA you have to go out of your way to break gun laws, that's how lax they are. He could have a permit from Utah or Florida or wherever and buy a gun via private sale and not mess with the serial number. Boom. There go the felonies. He could have had the gun in his trunk or locked glove compartment and they probably wouldn't have had anything on him.

/this is what you get for consenting to searches


I didn't need to consent. The smell of marijuana did that for him.
 
2012-06-29 01:10:33 PM

Silly Jesus: Fark It: I never understood this. In places like GA you have to go out of your way to break gun laws, that's how lax they are. He could have a permit from Utah or Florida or wherever and buy a gun via private sale and not mess with the serial number. Boom. There go the felonies. He could have had the gun in his trunk or locked glove compartment and they probably wouldn't have had anything on him.

/this is what you get for consenting to searches

I didn't need to consent. The smell of marijuana did that for him.


That's not enough now, the court even has questioned police dogs now since its been proven dogs usually act on their handlers actions.

And smelling marijuana in a college town is not a big surprise.
 
2012-06-29 01:10:57 PM
GO GAMECOCKS!
 
2012-06-29 01:27:03 PM

steamingpile: Silly Jesus: Fark It: I never understood this. In places like GA you have to go out of your way to break gun laws, that's how lax they are. He could have a permit from Utah or Florida or wherever and buy a gun via private sale and not mess with the serial number. Boom. There go the felonies. He could have had the gun in his trunk or locked glove compartment and they probably wouldn't have had anything on him.

/this is what you get for consenting to searches

I didn't need to consent. The smell of marijuana did that for him.

That's not enough now, the court even has questioned police dogs now since its been proven dogs usually act on their handlers actions.

And smelling marijuana in a college town is not a big surprise.


Huh? Are you saying that the smell of marijuana in a vehicle is not currently probable cause for a search? Because it is...
 
2012-06-29 01:35:50 PM

steamingpile: Harry Zach OBalls: You know what the worst thing about Spurrier is, he practically begged to be the coach at UGA. But UGA administration thought "He wasn't the right guy to represent UGA football," or some crap. And what did Spurrier do? Made it his mission to beat our ass because of it.

/Go Dawgs
//smdh

He hasn't done a good job of it since going to SC, I think he's won twice, if we lose that game we know how bad the team really is because even an average team can beat SC. He's just pissed because UGA denied him a NC while playing QB at Florida.


He's actually 3-4 against UGA since he's been at South Carolina (wins in 2006, 2010, and 2011) with the average score being something like 21-19 UGA.

Since USCe only managed to beat Georgia 7 times in the 40 years prior to his arrival, I can see how one might think his presence has changed the dynamic somewhat.
 
2012-06-29 01:38:17 PM

steamingpile: I love the fact SC is still average to below average while he's there and its not getting better for them.


Let's see: he set a school record for wins last year; currently have a two-game winning streak vs UGA, Fla & UT; don't have anywhere near the player discipline problems Richt does; ended last season ranked #8; brought in the nation's #1 recruit last year. Sounds like we're moving in the right direction to me.
 
2012-06-29 02:20:41 PM
Hilda Sorrow? That's a made up name, right?
 
2012-06-29 03:22:58 PM

Silly Jesus: steamingpile: Silly Jesus: Fark It: I never understood this. In places like GA you have to go out of your way to break gun laws, that's how lax they are. He could have a permit from Utah or Florida or wherever and buy a gun via private sale and not mess with the serial number. Boom. There go the felonies. He could have had the gun in his trunk or locked glove compartment and they probably wouldn't have had anything on him.

/this is what you get for consenting to searches

I didn't need to consent. The smell of marijuana did that for him.

That's not enough now, the court even has questioned police dogs now since its been proven dogs usually act on their handlers actions.

And smelling marijuana in a college town is not a big surprise.

Huh? Are you saying that the smell of marijuana in a vehicle is not currently probable cause for a search? Because it is...


Not in Georgia its not, you have to get more than just a smell to do a warrantless search.
 
2012-06-29 03:29:57 PM

JustGetItRight: steamingpile: Harry Zach OBalls: You know what the worst thing about Spurrier is, he practically begged to be the coach at UGA. But UGA administration thought "He wasn't the right guy to represent UGA football," or some crap. And what did Spurrier do? Made it his mission to beat our ass because of it.

/Go Dawgs
//smdh

He hasn't done a good job of it since going to SC, I think he's won twice, if we lose that game we know how bad the team really is because even an average team can beat SC. He's just pissed because UGA denied him a NC while playing QB at Florida.

He's actually 3-4 against UGA since he's been at South Carolina (wins in 2006, 2010, and 2011) with the average score being something like 21-19 UGA.

Since USCe only managed to beat Georgia 7 times in the 40 years prior to his arrival, I can see how one might think his presence has changed the dynamic somewhat.


Considering that SC wasn't a regular on UGA's schedule then its not surprising that's all in 40 years, they didn't re-join the SEC until 91.

Given UGA's shape the past couple of years they should have won the games easily but they didn't and even gave up a shiatload of points to a crappy team last year.
 
2012-06-29 03:39:11 PM

Sully11: steamingpile: I love the fact SC is still average to below average while he's there and its not getting better for them.

Let's see: he set a school record for wins last year; currently have a two-game winning streak vs UGA, Fla & UT; don't have anywhere near the player discipline problems Richt does; ended last season ranked #8; brought in the nation's #1 recruit last year. Sounds like we're moving in the right direction to me.


It would until you realize that the sec east was way down and they still couldn't win it, but I guess when you're the bucket full of suck like SC is then anything is a step up. Richt had those seasons and people are still trying to get him fired.
 
2012-06-29 04:20:52 PM

steamingpile: JustGetItRight: steamingpile: Harry Zach OBalls: You know what the worst thing about Spurrier is, he practically begged to be the coach at UGA. But UGA administration thought "He wasn't the right guy to represent UGA football," or some crap. And what did Spurrier do? Made it his mission to beat our ass because of it.

/Go Dawgs
//smdh

He hasn't done a good job of it since going to SC, I think he's won twice, if we lose that game we know how bad the team really is because even an average team can beat SC. He's just pissed because UGA denied him a NC while playing QB at Florida.

He's actually 3-4 against UGA since he's been at South Carolina (wins in 2006, 2010, and 2011) with the average score being something like 21-19 UGA.

Since USCe only managed to beat Georgia 7 times in the 40 years prior to his arrival, I can see how one might think his presence has changed the dynamic somewhat.

Considering that SC wasn't a regular on UGA's schedule then its not surprising that's all in 40 years, they didn't re-join the SEC until 91.

Given UGA's shape the past couple of years they should have won the games easily but they didn't and even gave up a shiatload of points to a crappy team last year.



Really? I would say playing every year save 5 (65,72,73,90 and 91) since 1958 makes you a regular on someone's schedule.

/Farking history. How does it work?
 
2012-06-29 04:32:01 PM

JustGetItRight: Since USCe only managed to beat Georgia 7 times in the 40 years prior to his arrival, I can see how one might think his presence has changed the dynamic somewhat.


Ugh. Nobody in the entire country outside the city of Columbia thinks of South Carolina when "USC" is said. I wish they'd stop that crap. Also, techno music? WTF, South Carolina?
 
2012-06-29 04:38:29 PM

WoodyHayes: JustGetItRight: Since USCe only managed to beat Georgia 7 times in the 40 years prior to his arrival, I can see how one might think his presence has changed the dynamic somewhat.

Ugh. Nobody in the entire country outside the city of Columbia thinks of South Carolina when "USC" is said. I wish they'd stop that crap. Also, techno music? WTF, South Carolina?


Did you miss the lowercase e? Fans of other SEC schools don't call them USCe as a term of endearment.
 
2012-06-29 04:42:48 PM

steamingpile: Silly Jesus: steamingpile: Silly Jesus: Fark It: I never understood this. In places like GA you have to go out of your way to break gun laws, that's how lax they are. He could have a permit from Utah or Florida or wherever and buy a gun via private sale and not mess with the serial number. Boom. There go the felonies. He could have had the gun in his trunk or locked glove compartment and they probably wouldn't have had anything on him.

/this is what you get for consenting to searches

I didn't need to consent. The smell of marijuana did that for him.

That's not enough now, the court even has questioned police dogs now since its been proven dogs usually act on their handlers actions.

And smelling marijuana in a college town is not a big surprise.

Huh? Are you saying that the smell of marijuana in a vehicle is not currently probable cause for a search? Because it is...

Not in Georgia its not, you have to get more than just a smell to do a warrantless search.


Nope.
 
2012-06-29 04:49:27 PM

steamingpile: Silly Jesus: steamingpile: Silly Jesus: Fark It: I never understood this. In places like GA you have to go out of your way to break gun laws, that's how lax they are. He could have a permit from Utah or Florida or wherever and buy a gun via private sale and not mess with the serial number. Boom. There go the felonies. He could have had the gun in his trunk or locked glove compartment and they probably wouldn't have had anything on him.

/this is what you get for consenting to searches

I didn't need to consent. The smell of marijuana did that for him.

That's not enough now, the court even has questioned police dogs now since its been proven dogs usually act on their handlers actions.

And smelling marijuana in a college town is not a big surprise.

Huh? Are you saying that the smell of marijuana in a vehicle is not currently probable cause for a search? Because it is...

Not in Georgia its not, you have to get more than just a smell to do a warrantless search.


Forgot to throw in the link to the specific case...

The odor of burning marijuana emanating from the interior of an occupied vehicle provides a strong indication that the vehicle contains illegal contraband. We previously have found the "alert" of a trained narcotics dog, standing alone, sufficient to provide probable cause for the search of a vehicle. See Roundtree v. State, 213 Ga. App. 793, 794-795 (446 SE2d 204) (1994); Donner v. State, 191 Ga. App. 58, 60 (380 SE2d 732) (1989). We now hold that a trained police officer's perception of the odor of burning marijuana, provided his ability to identify that odor is placed into evidence, constitutes sufficient probable cause to support the warrantless search of a vehicle.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news...
 
2012-06-29 04:52:57 PM

JustGetItRight: Did you miss the lowercase e? Fans of other SEC schools don't call them USCe as a term of endearment.


Oh I know, it is just one of those things that really bugs me for some reason even though it shouldn't. Seems like a few times a season I jump on DigitalStrange I believe his name is when he starts using "USC" to refer to South Carolina in a completely serious manner. Ugh, just ugh.
 
2012-06-29 04:58:35 PM

WoodyHayes: JustGetItRight: Did you miss the lowercase e? Fans of other SEC schools don't call them USCe as a term of endearment.

Oh I know, it is just one of those things that really bugs me for some reason even though it shouldn't. Seems like a few times a season I jump on DigitalStrange I believe his name is when he starts using "USC" to refer to South Carolina in a completely serious manner. Ugh, just ugh.


Ok, my bad. I though you read my post as if I were calling them USC....
 
2012-06-29 05:01:29 PM
And Crowell has been dismissed from the team. The fans of Northern Alabama rejoice!
 
2012-06-29 05:03:02 PM

MaxSupernova: And Crowell has been dismissed from the team. The fans of Northern Alabama rejoice!


Nah. Tater tot's at Akron now.

He'll have to go to Troy, sit out a year, and learn to keep it down home.
 
2012-06-29 05:27:29 PM

JustGetItRight: steamingpile: JustGetItRight: steamingpile: Harry Zach OBalls: You know what the worst thing about Spurrier is, he practically begged to be the coach at UGA. But UGA administration thought "He wasn't the right guy to represent UGA football," or some crap. And what did Spurrier do? Made it his mission to beat our ass because of it.

/Go Dawgs
//smdh

He hasn't done a good job of it since going to SC, I think he's won twice, if we lose that game we know how bad the team really is because even an average team can beat SC. He's just pissed because UGA denied him a NC while playing QB at Florida.

He's actually 3-4 against UGA since he's been at South Carolina (wins in 2006, 2010, and 2011) with the average score being something like 21-19 UGA.

Since USCe only managed to beat Georgia 7 times in the 40 years prior to his arrival, I can see how one might think his presence has changed the dynamic somewhat.

Considering that SC wasn't a regular on UGA's schedule then its not surprising that's all in 40 years, they didn't re-join the SEC until 91.

Given UGA's shape the past couple of years they should have won the games easily but they didn't and even gave up a shiatload of points to a crappy team last year.


Really? I would say playing every year save 5 (65,72,73,90 and 91) since 1958 makes you a regular on someone's schedule.

/Farking history. How does it work?


Ehh I looker it up after I posted, just assumed since SC wasn't back in the SEC until 91 they weren't played much especially since Clemson was a bigger rival from SC.

Oh well I still think this is as good.as SC can hope for and spurrier will give up soon because his fragile ego can't take the mental scar UGA left on his college mind.
 
2012-06-29 05:30:07 PM

Silly Jesus: steamingpile: Silly Jesus: steamingpile: Silly Jesus: Fark It: I never understood this. In places like GA you have to go out of your way to break gun laws, that's how lax they are. He could have a permit from Utah or Florida or wherever and buy a gun via private sale and not mess with the serial number. Boom. There go the felonies. He could have had the gun in his trunk or locked glove compartment and they probably wouldn't have had anything on him.

/this is what you get for consenting to searches

I didn't need to consent. The smell of marijuana did that for him.

That's not enough now, the court even has questioned police dogs now since its been proven dogs usually act on their handlers actions.

And smelling marijuana in a college town is not a big surprise.

Huh? Are you saying that the smell of marijuana in a vehicle is not currently probable cause for a search? Because it is...

Not in Georgia its not, you have to get more than just a smell to do a warrantless search.

Forgot to throw in the link to the specific case...

The odor of burning marijuana emanating from the interior of an occupied vehicle provides a strong indication that the vehicle contains illegal contraband. We previously have found the "alert" of a trained narcotics dog, standing alone, sufficient to provide probable cause for the search of a vehicle. See Roundtree v. State, 213 Ga. App. 793, 794-795 (446 SE2d 204) (1994); Donner v. State, 191 Ga. App. 58, 60 (380 SE2d 732) (1989). We now hold that a trained police officer's perception of the odor of burning marijuana, provided his ability to identify that odor is placed into evidence, constitutes sufficient probable cause to support the warrantless search of a vehicle.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news...


Did you read the date? Any decent lawyer could get a case thrown out for that and no DA would request a warrant on smell alone.

Anytime they ask to search your car the answer is no
 
2012-06-29 05:47:36 PM
Heard he's moved up quite a bit on the Bengals draft chart because of this.
 
2012-06-29 06:00:11 PM

steamingpile: Did you read the date? Any decent lawyer could get a case thrown out for that and no DA would request a warrant on smell alone.


No. Unless a subsequent decision has been rendered by a superior court (as in Georgia Supreme Court or US Supreme Court), then the decision of this appellate court is controlling. A 1999 decision qualifies as relatively recent in the world of case law and this Georgia decision mirrors most every other state in the union.

The Supreme Court actually ruled on vehicle searches a couple of years ago. Here's the important part Justice John Paul Stevens said in the majority opinion that warrantless searches still may be conducted if a car's passenger compartment is within reach of a suspect who has been removed from the vehicle or there is reason to believe evidence will be found of the crime that led to the arrest.

Find yourself in this situation and any decent lawyer will tell you to hope for a generous plea deal.
 
2012-06-29 06:08:21 PM

JustGetItRight: TheGreatGazoo: Fark It: I never understood this. In places like GA you have to go out of your way to break gun laws, that's how lax they are. He could have a permit from Utah or Florida or wherever and buy a gun via private sale and not mess with the serial number. Boom. There go the felonies. He could have had the gun in his trunk or locked glove compartment and they probably wouldn't have had anything on him.

/this is what you get for consenting to searches

You aren't allowed to have guns on college campuses in Georgia. That's one of the big reasons that it has been open season lately on Georgia Tech and Georgia State students.

That prohibition is completely irrelevant to this case. He wasn't 'on campus'. He was driving on a public right-of-way that happens to run through the campus. Here's the applicable section straight from Georgia law:

A person who is licensed in accordance with Code Section 16-11-129 or issued a permit pursuant to Code Section 43-38-10, when such person carries or picks up a student at a school building, school function, or school property or on a bus or other transportation furnished by the school or a person who is licensed in accordance with Code Section 16-11-129 or issued a permit pursuant to Code Section 43-38-10 when he or she has any weapon legally kept within a vehicle when such vehicle is parked at such school property or is in transit through a designated school zone

If he had possessed both a valid permit and a legal weapon (no altered serial #) he would have been just fine.

Oh, and a Luger? A for-real German Luger? That could potentially be a very valuable weapon. I wonder how it managed to wind up in his car?


You actually are allowed to to have firearms on college campuses in Georgia without a firearms license (as is referenced above), however that is limited to students who live on campus and the firearm must be stored at all times in the locked trunk of your car. The law you are citing dictates the carrying of a firearm by a licensed person through school grounds. However, Mr. Crowell, not being 21, does not have a firearms license (more commonly known as a concealed carry permit).

I also don't know if he actually had a Luger or if the article is including luger as a description of the cartridge size. It could be used as a 9mm Luger or 9mm Parabellum. But as GreatGazoo stated, you really have to work to break Georgia gun laws. They aren't that strict at all. Hell, you don't even need any formal training to apply for a firearms license/concealed carry permit.
 
2012-06-29 06:55:39 PM
So, how long before the follow up story about his corpse being found behind a gas station, victim of a weed deal gone sour?
 
2012-06-29 07:22:38 PM

Another Government Employee: So, how long before the follow up story about his corpse being found behind a gas station, victim of a weed deal gone sour?


Not. Soon. Enough.

But the word is he's headed to Jax St.
 
2012-06-29 07:41:55 PM

steamingpile: Silly Jesus: steamingpile: Silly Jesus: steamingpile: Silly Jesus: Fark It: I never understood this. In places like GA you have to go out of your way to break gun laws, that's how lax they are. He could have a permit from Utah or Florida or wherever and buy a gun via private sale and not mess with the serial number. Boom. There go the felonies. He could have had the gun in his trunk or locked glove compartment and they probably wouldn't have had anything on him.

/this is what you get for consenting to searches

I didn't need to consent. The smell of marijuana did that for him.

That's not enough now, the court even has questioned police dogs now since its been proven dogs usually act on their handlers actions.

And smelling marijuana in a college town is not a big surprise.

Huh? Are you saying that the smell of marijuana in a vehicle is not currently probable cause for a search? Because it is...

Not in Georgia its not, you have to get more than just a smell to do a warrantless search.

Forgot to throw in the link to the specific case...

The odor of burning marijuana emanating from the interior of an occupied vehicle provides a strong indication that the vehicle contains illegal contraband. We previously have found the "alert" of a trained narcotics dog, standing alone, sufficient to provide probable cause for the search of a vehicle. See Roundtree v. State, 213 Ga. App. 793, 794-795 (446 SE2d 204) (1994); Donner v. State, 191 Ga. App. 58, 60 (380 SE2d 732) (1989). We now hold that a trained police officer's perception of the odor of burning marijuana, provided his ability to identify that odor is placed into evidence, constitutes sufficient probable cause to support the warrantless search of a vehicle.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news...

Did you read the date? Any decent lawyer could get a case thrown out for that and no DA would request a warrant on smell alone.

Anytime they ask to search your car the answer is no


You think that precedent expires? DA request a warrant? Lol. You've got to be trolling me...never mind.
 
2012-06-29 08:36:34 PM

Silly Jesus: steamingpile: Silly Jesus: steamingpile: Silly Jesus: steamingpile: Silly Jesus: Fark It: I never understood this. In places like GA you have to go out of your way to break gun laws, that's how lax they are. He could have a permit from Utah or Florida or wherever and buy a gun via private sale and not mess with the serial number. Boom. There go the felonies. He could have had the gun in his trunk or locked glove compartment and they probably wouldn't have had anything on him.

/this is what you get for consenting to searches

I didn't need to consent. The smell of marijuana did that for him.

That's not enough now, the court even has questioned police dogs now since its been proven dogs usually act on their handlers actions.

And smelling marijuana in a college town is not a big surprise.

Huh? Are you saying that the smell of marijuana in a vehicle is not currently probable cause for a search? Because it is...

Not in Georgia its not, you have to get more than just a smell to do a warrantless search.

Forgot to throw in the link to the specific case...

The odor of burning marijuana emanating from the interior of an occupied vehicle provides a strong indication that the vehicle contains illegal contraband. We previously have found the "alert" of a trained narcotics dog, standing alone, sufficient to provide probable cause for the search of a vehicle. See Roundtree v. State, 213 Ga. App. 793, 794-795 (446 SE2d 204) (1994); Donner v. State, 191 Ga. App. 58, 60 (380 SE2d 732) (1989). We now hold that a trained police officer's perception of the odor of burning marijuana, provided his ability to identify that odor is placed into evidence, constitutes sufficient probable cause to support the warrantless search of a vehicle.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news...

Did you read the date? Any decent lawyer could get a case thrown out for that and no DA would request a warrant on smell alone.

Anytime they ask to search your car the answer is no

You think that precedent expires? DA request a warrant? Lol. You've got to be trolling me...never mind.


Have you ever said no to a search? I have and I live here, after 5-10 minutes of threatening talk I was let go, as it stands right now the smell of a foreign substance does not give them right to search your car, the precedent you stated only deals with fighting it after the fact. And yes, I have seen a DA request a warrant after a known drug smuggler denied a request but he had paraphernalia in view, they had just stopped him for seat belt violation.
 
2012-06-29 08:57:31 PM

steamingpile: Silly Jesus: steamingpile: Silly Jesus: steamingpile: Silly Jesus: steamingpile: Silly Jesus: Fark It: I never understood this. In places like GA you have to go out of your way to break gun laws, that's how lax they are. He could have a permit from Utah or Florida or wherever and buy a gun via private sale and not mess with the serial number. Boom. There go the felonies. He could have had the gun in his trunk or locked glove compartment and they probably wouldn't have had anything on him.

/this is what you get for consenting to searches

I didn't need to consent. The smell of marijuana did that for him.

That's not enough now, the court even has questioned police dogs now since its been proven dogs usually act on their handlers actions.

And smelling marijuana in a college town is not a big surprise.

Huh? Are you saying that the smell of marijuana in a vehicle is not currently probable cause for a search? Because it is...

Not in Georgia its not, you have to get more than just a smell to do a warrantless search.

Forgot to throw in the link to the specific case...

The odor of burning marijuana emanating from the interior of an occupied vehicle provides a strong indication that the vehicle contains illegal contraband. We previously have found the "alert" of a trained narcotics dog, standing alone, sufficient to provide probable cause for the search of a vehicle. See Roundtree v. State, 213 Ga. App. 793, 794-795 (446 SE2d 204) (1994); Donner v. State, 191 Ga. App. 58, 60 (380 SE2d 732) (1989). We now hold that a trained police officer's perception of the odor of burning marijuana, provided his ability to identify that odor is placed into evidence, constitutes sufficient probable cause to support the warrantless search of a vehicle.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news...

Did you read the date? Any decent lawyer could get a case thrown out for that and no DA would request a warrant on smell alone.

Anytime they ask to search your car the answer is no

You th ...


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OK, sounds good!
 
2012-06-29 09:47:42 PM

Silly Jesus: steamingpile: Silly Jesus: steamingpile: Silly Jesus: steamingpile: Silly Jesus: steamingpile: Silly Jesus: Fark It: I never understood this. In places like GA you have to go out of your way to break gun laws, that's how lax they are. He could have a permit from Utah or Florida or wherever and buy a gun via private sale and not mess with the serial number. Boom. There go the felonies. He could have had the gun in his trunk or locked glove compartment and they probably wouldn't have had anything on him.

/this is what you get for consenting to searches

I didn't need to consent. The smell of marijuana did that for him.

That's not enough now, the court even has questioned police dogs now since its been proven dogs usually act on their handlers actions.

And smelling marijuana in a college town is not a big surprise.

Huh? Are you saying that the smell of marijuana in a vehicle is not currently probable cause for a search? Because it is...

Not in Georgia its not, you have to get more than just a smell to do a warrantless search.

Forgot to throw in the link to the specific case...

The odor of burning marijuana emanating from the interior of an occupied vehicle provides a strong indication that the vehicle contains illegal contraband. We previously have found the "alert" of a trained narcotics dog, standing alone, sufficient to provide probable cause for the search of a vehicle. See Roundtree v. State, 213 Ga. App. 793, 794-795 (446 SE2d 204) (1994); Donner v. State, 191 Ga. App. 58, 60 (380 SE2d 732) (1989). We now hold that a trained police officer's perception of the odor of burning marijuana, provided his ability to identify that odor is placed into evidence, constitutes sufficient probable cause to support the warrantless search of a vehicle.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news...

Did you read the date? Any decent lawyer could get a case thrown out for that and no DA would request a warrant on smell alone.

Anytime they ask to search your car the answer is no

You th ...



OK, sounds good!


Theory and practice, you think you know how it should go but in reality if you press it they have little legal ground.

Say no, its good for you and I'm sure the story of your lovelife.
 
2012-06-29 11:10:20 PM

steamingpile: Silly Jesus: steamingpile: Silly Jesus: steamingpile: Silly Jesus: steamingpile: Silly Jesus: steamingpile: Silly Jesus: Fark It: I never understood this. In places like GA you have to go out of your way to break gun laws, that's how lax they are. He could have a permit from Utah or Florida or wherever and buy a gun via private sale and not mess with the serial number. Boom. There go the felonies. He could have had the gun in his trunk or locked glove compartment and they probably wouldn't have had anything on him.

/this is what you get for consenting to searches

I didn't need to consent. The smell of marijuana did that for him.

That's not enough now, the court even has questioned police dogs now since its been proven dogs usually act on their handlers actions.

And smelling marijuana in a college town is not a big surprise.

Huh? Are you saying that the smell of marijuana in a vehicle is not currently probable cause for a search? Because it is...

Not in Georgia its not, you have to get more than just a smell to do a warrantless search.

Forgot to throw in the link to the specific case...

The odor of burning marijuana emanating from the interior of an occupied vehicle provides a strong indication that the vehicle contains illegal contraband. We previously have found the "alert" of a trained narcotics dog, standing alone, sufficient to provide probable cause for the search of a vehicle. See Roundtree v. State, 213 Ga. App. 793, 794-795 (446 SE2d 204) (1994); Donner v. State, 191 Ga. App. 58, 60 (380 SE2d 732) (1989). We now hold that a trained police officer's perception of the odor of burning marijuana, provided his ability to identify that odor is placed into evidence, constitutes sufficient probable cause to support the warrantless search of a vehicle.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news...

Did you read the date? Any decent lawyer could get a case thrown out for that and no DA would request a warrant on smell alone.

Anytime they ask to search your c ...


Do you always herp when you derp?
 
2012-06-30 01:04:30 PM

steamingpile: Sully11: And once again, Spurrier is proven right.

Nice job he's doing at SC keeping his players incidents quiet, I love the fact SC is still average to below average while he's there and its not getting better for them.

My problem was the comment by Derrick Henry, did he actually say ".....because not everyone was raised the same?" What a tool, you mean neither one of you were raised to have common sense?

And I think Tennessee has had more players arrested since last season ended so they lead the fulmers cup.


An 11 win season is average? OK
 
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