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2012-06-29 01:44:29 PM

Death_Poot: DeathByGeekSquad: FriarReb98: My supervisor used to have a radar detector in her car. She had once asked a statie about what they thought of it, and since he was a good cop (read: one you'll never read about in the news), he actually told her that he's cool with them because you actually slow down anyway.

Like I said, obviously not the type of cop that ends up on Fark, but at least they exist. Hell of a lot better than the asswipe who tailgated me with his high beams on at midnight on a Saturday night, then gave me a ticket for speeding to get around the other cars and out of his way, farking prick. (Did i mention he started this right as I was passing the exit with all the bars? And that many other people have heard of this happening in the same damned spot?)

\love NHSP, they pretty much ignore you under 75
\\fark MSP though, they'd rather get you for doing 1 mph over than deal with weaving assholes and 64 mph high speed lane drivers

Cops looking for drunk drivers are more dangerous than the drunks themselves. They've literally blinded me with that 'fly up, ride the bumper w/ high beams' tactic. The sad part is that they're not even camping the hot spots, they're looking for the lower income drivers and youths instead of the lawyers and CEOs leaving the country club tanked after a day of golf.

Like I said, take your foot off of the gas, start going 10 under....havent been pulled over a single time I've done this, and it's been least a dozen times this asshattery has been pulled on me.

/doesnt drink


Why not just slam on your brakes, claiming you saw something (a deer..whatever) on the side of the road that looked like it was going to jump out there?
 
2012-06-29 01:46:57 PM

loonatic112358: godxam: JerkyMeat: My vote is for a Texas Holocaust with no survivors.

ahh, did Texas do something mean to you, poor baby.

likely got a ticket in a small town out on the interstate


perhaps spent a little too much time on the corner of montrose and westheimer?
 
2012-06-29 01:47:59 PM

You Are All Sheep: Death_Poot: DeathByGeekSquad: FriarReb98: My supervisor used to have a radar detector in her car. She had once asked a statie about what they thought of it, and since he was a good cop (read: one you'll never read about in the news), he actually told her that he's cool with them because you actually slow down anyway.

Like I said, obviously not the type of cop that ends up on Fark, but at least they exist. Hell of a lot better than the asswipe who tailgated me with his high beams on at midnight on a Saturday night, then gave me a ticket for speeding to get around the other cars and out of his way, farking prick. (Did i mention he started this right as I was passing the exit with all the bars? And that many other people have heard of this happening in the same damned spot?)

\love NHSP, they pretty much ignore you under 75
\\fark MSP though, they'd rather get you for doing 1 mph over than deal with weaving assholes and 64 mph high speed lane drivers

Cops looking for drunk drivers are more dangerous than the drunks themselves. They've literally blinded me with that 'fly up, ride the bumper w/ high beams' tactic. The sad part is that they're not even camping the hot spots, they're looking for the lower income drivers and youths instead of the lawyers and CEOs leaving the country club tanked after a day of golf.

Like I said, take your foot off of the gas, start going 10 under....havent been pulled over a single time I've done this, and it's been least a dozen times this asshattery has been pulled on me.

/doesnt drink

Why not just slam on your brakes, claiming you saw something (a deer..whatever) on the side of the road that looked like it was going to jump out there?


Whenever someone is behind me with bright headlights, I adjust my side mirror to try to get it to reflect back at their face.
 
2012-06-29 01:48:00 PM

PsiChick: Or sit in the middle of the escape lane with no blinkers. You can see drivers craning their heads trying to figure out if it's someone broken down or just an idiot./THE ESCAPE LANE IS NOT FOR FARKING PARKING IN, YOU MORANS.//Seriously, do they want to get hit or something?


I did yell at a cop who stepped out in the street, when my panic braking left me uncomfortably close to hitting him

"You scared the crap out of me, why did you do that, you can get hurt" and other things along that line

he told me, he'd have not given me a ticket if I hadn't accelerated from 50 in a 45 to 55+

Of course the guy looked to be southeast asian ancestry, so he may have lacked the redneck genes that would have demanded giving me a beating
 
2012-06-29 01:48:48 PM

Andrew Wiggin: perhaps spent a little too much time on the corner of montrose and westheimer?


the art is gone, so what's to see down there?
 
2012-06-29 01:51:29 PM

loonatic112358: Andrew Wiggin: perhaps spent a little too much time on the corner of montrose and westheimer?

the art is gone, so what's to see down there?


sorry, i moved away about 10 years ago. when i lived there, it was a very...gay...area. nttawwt.
 
2012-06-29 01:53:17 PM
Cops. Being dirty since...well, since as far as I can recall. 30+ years now. MURKA!
 
2012-06-29 01:53:53 PM

Andrew Wiggin: sorry, i moved away about 10 years ago. when i lived there, it was a very...gay...area. nttawwt.


it may be, but there was a mural you should recall, that mural is gone

It was recreated briefly for something
 
2012-06-29 02:27:13 PM
CS#1: I still laugh about one time I flashed my lights on and off on Ft Bragg, NC back in '92. MP in a pickup came flying after me and harangued me for at least 10 minutes in the barracks parking lot. He asked me "Why were you flashing your lights?" I answered honestly with "I was just letting them know there was a speedtrap ahead." I never bothered to find out if his threat of citing me for "Driving without headlights" even had a chance of sticking, but I was certainly more discrete about it in the future.

I don't think he was pissed off about what I did as much as he was over the fact that I answered him honestly, instead of inventing an excuse on the fly. I at least hope he got a good laugh out of it later, since I certainly did.

CS#2: Earlier on Ft Bragg, I had gotten stopped by an MP for doing the 35mph slalom in the 19th Replacement Detachment parking lot. He asked me, "Just what in the hell were you doing?" My honest reply was, "Something very stupid." I believe that the reason I didn't even get a written warning on that one was because he had so much trouble keeping a straight face at that point.

End result: I have gotten my fair share of tickets (none in a while, though), and have found that just being honest and respectful will appease most. Some are total jerks, and there's nothing you can do to prevent that.

/end of CSB
//pissing off a cop is never a good idea, unless you've got the free time to handle the aftermath
 
2012-06-29 02:36:02 PM
COP : Ma'm do you know why I pulled you over ?

Driver : Because you got all C's in High School ?
 
2012-06-29 02:53:27 PM

scottydoesntknow: Burr: Also, if you are on the interstate, watch the truck drivers. They usually have a good idea of where the LEOs are (with the CB communication and all)

/Had a CB radio in my youth, only to monitor the group channel (19 I think it was) to get a heads up on smokey

Ha my mom (way back in the day) used to use a CB radio while she was driving to get tips on cop locations. One day she asks if it's clear and a voice pops up saying "You're clear the next 30 miles Sweet Pea." My mom starts hauling ass and less than a mile later she has a cop tailing her, lights flashing. Cop gets out, walks to the window, and says "Well hello there, Sweet Pea."

She stopped trusting the CB after that.


thats called entrapment, classic law school case study
 
2012-06-29 02:56:56 PM
fark THE POLICE
 
2012-06-29 03:13:14 PM
"Why not just slam on your brakes, claiming you saw something (a deer..whatever) on the side of the road that looked like it was going to jump out there?"



You have to be subtle about it so that they don't consider it to be malicious intent (like putting on the brakes)........besides, I don't appreciate a car so close up my ass that the other driver can smell what I had for breakfast......just for the purpose of getting me to speed up and break the law. If you want to pull me over and fark with me, do so and give me a simple lie. It's a lot safer.

Same for the assholes that park their cruiser just over the rise of a hill with lights on, then another pulls you over for not "heeding an emergency vehicle".
 
2012-06-29 03:17:42 PM

Duke_leto_Atredes: scottydoesntknow: Burr: Also, if you are on the interstate, watch the truck drivers. They usually have a good idea of where the LEOs are (with the CB communication and all)

/Had a CB radio in my youth, only to monitor the group channel (19 I think it was) to get a heads up on smokey

Ha my mom (way back in the day) used to use a CB radio while she was driving to get tips on cop locations. One day she asks if it's clear and a voice pops up saying "You're clear the next 30 miles Sweet Pea." My mom starts hauling ass and less than a mile later she has a cop tailing her, lights flashing. Cop gets out, walks to the window, and says "Well hello there, Sweet Pea."

She stopped trusting the CB after that.

thats called entrapment, classic law school case study




Um, if you think that is entrapment, you need to sue the law school you attended.
 
2012-06-29 03:53:57 PM

FarkinHostile: Duke_leto_Atredes: scottydoesntknow: Burr: Also, if you are on the interstate, watch the truck drivers. They usually have a good idea of where the LEOs are (with the CB communication and all)

/Had a CB radio in my youth, only to monitor the group channel (19 I think it was) to get a heads up on smokey

Ha my mom (way back in the day) used to use a CB radio while she was driving to get tips on cop locations. One day she asks if it's clear and a voice pops up saying "You're clear the next 30 miles Sweet Pea." My mom starts hauling ass and less than a mile later she has a cop tailing her, lights flashing. Cop gets out, walks to the window, and says "Well hello there, Sweet Pea."

She stopped trusting the CB after that.

thats called entrapment, classic law school case study



Um, if you think that is entrapment, you need to sue the law school you attended.


Any Real JD's want to chime in on this
 
2012-06-29 03:55:40 PM

tukatz: What a bunch of frickin' whiners.

If you don't want a speeding ticket, then don't speed. If you choose to speed and get a ticket, pay it and STFU. Most of the time, the D.A. will cut the cost and any points in half if you ask. If you seem to be getting a lot of tickets, perhaps you should ponder whether or not you should be driving.

Seriously, most "speed traps" are so obvious that you'd notice them if you put down your cell phone, cigarette, soda, make-up and/or newspaper and pay attention.

Yes, the cops want you to slow down. The vast majority of police/sheriff's depts. do NOT have quotas. The cop stopping you doesn't get a percentage of the money from the ticket, so it doesn't matter to them. They are working to get your ass to slow down and not plow over little children and old ladies.

Every time these stories come up on Fark, the anti-cop whiners come out to biatch about that ticket(s) they couldn't talk their way out of.... oh, you poor things. I've gotten 3 speeding tickets and a number of verbal warnings in my long driving history.... and I deserved every one of them. The warnings? Because I was polite to the cop because I know he was only doing his job and got a break.

This lady deserved to be arrested for being such a dumbass. You have time to stand on the sidewalk with a speed trap sign? Then you should be working a job or doing something more productive. And learn how to slow down.


So you admit that you continue to repeatedly break the law by speeding, despite repeated warnings and tickets by the cops. Sounds like a real effective deterrent there, buddy.
 
2012-06-29 04:01:59 PM

Duke_leto_Atredes: FarkinHostile: Duke_leto_Atredes: scottydoesntknow: Burr: Also, if you are on the interstate, watch the truck drivers. They usually have a good idea of where the LEOs are (with the CB communication and all)

/Had a CB radio in my youth, only to monitor the group channel (19 I think it was) to get a heads up on smokey

Ha my mom (way back in the day) used to use a CB radio while she was driving to get tips on cop locations. One day she asks if it's clear and a voice pops up saying "You're clear the next 30 miles Sweet Pea." My mom starts hauling ass and less than a mile later she has a cop tailing her, lights flashing. Cop gets out, walks to the window, and says "Well hello there, Sweet Pea."

She stopped trusting the CB after that.

thats called entrapment, classic law school case study



Um, if you think that is entrapment, you need to sue the law school you attended.

Any Real JD's want to chime in on this


I'm pretty sure JD Hogg would be OK with it if Sheriff Coltrane used that tactic.
 
2012-06-29 04:03:03 PM

Duke_leto_Atredes: FarkinHostile: Duke_leto_Atredes: scottydoesntknow: Burr: Also, if you are on the interstate, watch the truck drivers. They usually have a good idea of where the LEOs are (with the CB communication and all)

/Had a CB radio in my youth, only to monitor the group channel (19 I think it was) to get a heads up on smokey

Ha my mom (way back in the day) used to use a CB radio while she was driving to get tips on cop locations. One day she asks if it's clear and a voice pops up saying "You're clear the next 30 miles Sweet Pea." My mom starts hauling ass and less than a mile later she has a cop tailing her, lights flashing. Cop gets out, walks to the window, and says "Well hello there, Sweet Pea."

She stopped trusting the CB after that.

thats called entrapment, classic law school case study



Um, if you think that is entrapment, you need to sue the law school you attended.

Any Real JD's want to chime in on this




In criminal law, entrapment is conduct by a law enforcement agent inducing a person to commit an offense that the person would otherwise have been unlikely to commit.

Asking on a CB if it's ok to speed, having a cop tell you "Go ahead" and getting busted is NOT entrapment.
 
2012-06-29 04:07:09 PM

PsiChick: THE ESCAPE LANE...


Having never heard this term before I'm under the impression it is a reference to a turning lane or possibly a paved street-level median.
 
2012-06-29 04:16:18 PM
Reminds me of a video I saw the other day of an officer stopping a law student who was legally carrying openly.

I was surprised on two fronts. One was that the officer actually allowed the kid to video the encounter. The other was that, after a mention elsewhere, I checked and found that my Georgia weapons permit lets me carry openly if that's what I choose to do (and if I wanted to be constantly harassed by the popo).
 
2012-06-29 04:29:30 PM

FarkinHostile: In criminal law, entrapment is conduct by a law enforcement agent inducing a person to commit an offense that the person would otherwise have been unlikely to commit.

Asking on a CB if it's ok to speed, having a cop tell you "Go ahead" and getting busted is NOT entrapment.


We don't actually know if it was the cop anyway. He could have been listening to the conversation without actually participating in any way, other than to gather intelligence on speeders. I can see it unfolding this way:

Sweet Pea (hereafter [SP]) is looking to get on the Interstate. Trooper X (hearafter [TX]) is nearby, and Gear Jammer (hereafter [GJ]) has just passed through that area about 25-30 minutes ago:

[SP]: This is Sweet Pea at Exit Y, wondering about any Smokies between there and Exit Z
[GJ]: I just passed through that area Sweet Pea, and it's clear

From the standpoint of [GJ], it *WAS* clear: Assuming he's 30 miles ahead, and travelling at 75 MPH, he passed by Exit Y a full 24 minutes ago, plenty of time for [TX] to have gotten set up for a speed trap. With [TX] listening to the conversation, all he has to do is look for a car with a CB antenna on it, driven by a woman, exceeding the speed limit. Even if he pulls over the wrong one and calls the woman "Sweet Pea", that will be taken as a generic term by the woman he did stop.

If it was [TX] who gave the bogus "all clear", though, that serves as a bit of a warning about soliciting information instead of just listening.

Either way, [TX] was exploiting a system that has essentially zero safeguards against interception or spoofing. Either [TX] intercepted the conversation, and exploited it, or he was part of it, and spoofed [SP] into thinking it would be OK to speed.

That's not to say that you *CAN'T* figure out a way to prevent that sort of thing, but it requires coordination amongst the people doing it, something that would be hard to do.
 
2012-06-29 04:42:07 PM
Per smitty's lead-in, came for further exposition, discussion, and display of high beams. Leaving mostly disappointed. (Thanks 'haknslash', A for effort!)

It's Friday afternoon, c'mon people!
 
2012-06-29 05:40:44 PM
CS: My ex attended grad school in some state in the Midwest that began with an "I" and she told me about a farmer who had a billboard on his property warning of the speed trap ahead. The state and local cops tried to get him to take it down. It went to court and it was ruled, all the way to the state supreme court, that the farmer was protected under the first amendment. I'll bet if the lady from TFA had been standing in her yard the cops, even the Texas cops, would not have been able to touch her.
 
2012-06-29 06:14:27 PM

Mirrorz: PsiChick: THE ESCAPE LANE...

Having never heard this term before I'm under the impression it is a reference to a turning lane or possibly a paved street-level median.


It's a lane in the center of a highway. The idea is that you can go into it to a) turn or b) get out of the way if something comes out at you.

It might be a thing you don't see on a typical city highway, though. I don't usually even see them in Reno, and it's not like Reno's the next NYC.

/That said, they are, safety-wise, very important not to block, especially in rural areas where a slight swerve into the safety lane might not otherwise cause a car crash.
 
2012-06-29 06:35:18 PM

StoPPeRmobile: The Parkways are farked and not designed for speeding. On ramps are way to short.


I agree with you on the on ramps, but that doesn't really impact you once you get up to speed. It just makes merging into traffic a huge PITA.

I love driving on the Parkways, nicely tree-lined, just the right amount of curves... it's a fun drive
 
2012-06-29 07:01:53 PM

scottydoesntknow: Huh, I'd just say I saw a pig deer in the road and was warning other drivers about the potential road hazard.


I'd just say I was trying to use my turn signal and accidentally flashed my high beams. Happens all the time.
 
2012-06-29 08:40:33 PM
Don't interfere with the revenooers. They get cranky.
 
2012-06-29 10:40:15 PM

justanotherfarkinfarker: I wish this was on video (not the staged news bit). If you are going to do this crap make sure someone is taping it. Then you hopefully embarrass the cops about doing things like illegal searches.


If she were smart, she would make sure that her court date was advertised and get as many people who drove by and saw her standing there to come out and testify that she wasn't in the street prior to being arrested.

Then throw down with said police department.
 
2012-06-30 03:31:51 AM
I used to go the speed limit all the time until I moved to Utah, here that's considered bad driving. 5-10 miles over is expected from everyone, even if you are in the slowest lane.

Gotta love going 8 miles over the speed limit and cops just pass you because they are going 15 over.
 
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