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2012-06-29 10:42:34 AM
Burr

Also, if you are on the interstate, watch the truck drivers. They usually have a good idea of where the LEOs are (with the CB communication and all)

/Had a CB radio in my youth, only to monitor the group channel (19 I think it was) to get a heads up on smokey


It sure was 19.

Channel 19 Channel 19 Looking for a Smokey check...Come on back.

/eeee doggie
 
2012-06-29 10:42:42 AM

Burr: Also, if you are on the interstate, watch the truck drivers. They usually have a good idea of where the LEOs are (with the CB communication and all)

/Had a CB radio in my youth, only to monitor the group channel (19 I think it was) to get a heads up on smokey


Ha my mom (way back in the day) used to use a CB radio while she was driving to get tips on cop locations. One day she asks if it's clear and a voice pops up saying "You're clear the next 30 miles Sweet Pea." My mom starts hauling ass and less than a mile later she has a cop tailing her, lights flashing. Cop gets out, walks to the window, and says "Well hello there, Sweet Pea."

She stopped trusting the CB after that.
 
2012-06-29 10:43:11 AM
The Texas state law that forbids interferring with police includes a specific exclusion that allows interferring with police enforcing "the rules of the road."
 
2012-06-29 10:43:19 AM
In Massachusetts, flashing car lights is not illegal, but it may result in an encounter with a police officer.

If you're not doing anything wrong, what do you have to worry about? It's just a friendly encounter with a police office, who decides to speak to you about how you haven't broken the law.
 
2012-06-29 10:45:13 AM

payattention: its obstruction of justice... same as if you tipped someone off that there were officers outside looking for them, or told police you had never seen a person when you actually had.


Threadjack here, but the one time I got a chance to "misdirect" the police was in the '90's when:

Thelonious Monster was playing in Cambridge, the singer was three sheets but still pretty good, but an even drunker Harvard student was standing two feet away from the singer yelling "You suck! You suck!" during every song. Eventually TM's singer had had enough so he threw a swing at the idiot, knocking him back pretty good.

The band packed up quickly after they saw the jerk run out looking for a cop. The singer had darted out the stage door. After seeing a cop come in the bar door and talk to the bartender, my buddy and I also went out the stage door and stood there until the cop came out and asked "which way did he go?" We both pointed toward Green St, knowing that he had run the other way.

Good times.
 
2012-06-29 10:45:18 AM
Stupid police = Citizen profit.
 
2012-06-29 10:46:55 AM
"arrested Plummer for standing in the street where there a sidewalk was present, a misdemeanor charge"

this is a jail-able offense?
 
2012-06-29 10:48:28 AM

Mirrorz: Yet no one tickets and arrests those HPD geniuses that jump out in front of moving traffic on foot at intersections & frontage roads to give people tickets for expired registration stickers.

Seen so many drivers almost plow them over when they do that sh*t.


Fort Worth PD goes one better - they park on the left shoulder of a freeway where there's a slight dip in grade and run out into the lane to gesture drivers to pull over, armed only with stupidity and a radar gun.
 
2012-06-29 10:48:37 AM

payattention: its obstruction of justice... same as if you tipped someone off that there were officers outside looking for them, or told police you had never seen a person when you actually had.


Your analogy falls short, in both cases - tipping off a suspect and providing false information- the police are looking for someone specific for a crime that has already been committed. A better analogy would be telling you neighbor, "don't rob the Circle-K tonight the police have stepped up enforcement." You can't obstruct an investigation in to a crime that hasn't happened.
 
2012-06-29 10:49:01 AM

tmyk: Florida does it best.

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Hey, that's awesome.
 
2012-06-29 10:50:28 AM
Personally, I think that they shouldn't bust people for speeding, but double the fine and add it on to any other traffic violation you get ticketed for. I will even say that they can pull you over for wreckless op if they feel you are going "too fast" to be in control of your vehicle.

I think people who drive in the passing lane are worse then speeders.
 
2012-06-29 10:51:07 AM
STOP SIGN!!!!!
 
2012-06-29 10:51:38 AM

scottydoesntknow: Burr: Also, if you are on the interstate, watch the truck drivers. They usually have a good idea of where the LEOs are (with the CB communication and all)

/Had a CB radio in my youth, only to monitor the group channel (19 I think it was) to get a heads up on smokey

Ha my mom (way back in the day) used to use a CB radio while she was driving to get tips on cop locations. One day she asks if it's clear and a voice pops up saying "You're clear the next 30 miles Sweet Pea." My mom starts hauling ass and less than a mile later she has a cop tailing her, lights flashing. Cop gets out, walks to the window, and says "Well hello there, Sweet Pea."

She stopped trusting the CB after that.


You have to admit, that's pretty funny.
 
2012-06-29 10:52:33 AM

tmyk: Florida does it best.

[bydianedaniel.files.wordpress.com image 500x339]

[www.city-data.com image 370x278]


There should be a sign for Madison County on I-10.
 
2012-06-29 10:53:00 AM
Woman is a hero for sure.

Fark the for-profit police.
 
2012-06-29 10:54:30 AM

payattention: [...] its obstruction of justice... [...]



No, it is not obstruction of justice. This happened in Houston, Texas. Texas law says specifically that obstruction does not apply to alerting drivers regarding police enforcing the rules of the road.
 
2012-06-29 10:56:00 AM
But Houston police saw it differently, and arrested Plummer for standing in the street where there a sidewalk was present, a misdemeanor charge.

That's an arrestable offense? Really?
 
2012-06-29 10:56:08 AM
She should be cited...for having such a crappy sign. How the fark am I supposed to read that shiatty piece of shiat when I am doing 60mph? I could barely read it when she held it up for the camera. If you want to help, get a Goddamn thick point sharpie and a piece of cardboard that doesn't flop over all limp.

At least the police didn't tazer her, and then follow her home so they could shoot her dog.
 
2012-06-29 10:56:30 AM

LowbrowDeluxe: scottydoesntknow: Burr: Also, if you are on the interstate, watch the truck drivers. They usually have a good idea of where the LEOs are (with the CB communication and all)

/Had a CB radio in my youth, only to monitor the group channel (19 I think it was) to get a heads up on smokey

Ha my mom (way back in the day) used to use a CB radio while she was driving to get tips on cop locations. One day she asks if it's clear and a voice pops up saying "You're clear the next 30 miles Sweet Pea." My mom starts hauling ass and less than a mile later she has a cop tailing her, lights flashing. Cop gets out, walks to the window, and says "Well hello there, Sweet Pea."

She stopped trusting the CB after that.

You have to admit, that's pretty funny.


Especially when you consider the next noise that came from the cop:

ziiiiiiiiiiip
 
2012-06-29 10:57:04 AM

Burr: Personally, I think that they shouldn't bust people for speeding, but double the fine and add it on to any other traffic violation you get ticketed for. I will even say that they can pull you over for wreckless op if they feel you are going "too fast" to be in control of your vehicle.


Personally, I think that DWI should not be a crime. Intoxication should be just another way you can commit the existing offense of reckless driving.

Also, I approve of wreckless driving.
 
2012-06-29 10:57:19 AM
A few years back, our local paper had an article about some girls getting cited (but not arrested) for standing on the sidewalk in bikinis advertising a cheerleader boosters car wash. The offense was something like "causing a traffic hazard." The citation was issued because two teenage boys driving down the street rear-ended a car that was stopped to turn left into the lot where the car wash was being held. (And yes, the boys got cited too.)

So even if that lady had never stepped off the sidewalk, the cops probably could have come up with something to cite her for.
 
2012-06-29 10:58:51 AM
MythDragon
At least the police didn't tazer her, and then follow her home so they could shoot her dog.


It's true. That was very nice of them.
 
2012-06-29 10:59:01 AM

Honest Bender: But Houston police saw it differently, and arrested Plummer for standing in the street where there a sidewalk was present, a misdemeanor charge.

That's an arrestable offense? Really?


Almost everything execept speeding is potentially an arrestable offense. See Atwater v. Lago Vista
 
2012-06-29 11:00:06 AM
They quit flashing their high beams around here because I'd follow them home and murder them. The gang was like, "Dude, we said you just had to do it once!" So I murdered them too.
 
2012-06-29 11:02:14 AM
My wife got a speeding ticket one time (for doing 13 over I think it was) and sad "great, something for my lawyer to look over"

Cops response: "Whoa, why do you need to have your lawyer look over this?"

/yeah, they don't like you mentioning a lawyer, especially for something so "trivial"
 
2012-06-29 11:05:49 AM

Kyoki: Mirrorz: It's the end of the month. Quota time... I mean incentive time.
Write x number of tickets each month and earn an extra floating vacation day but there is no quota.

Was married to a cop (no longer thankfully). They call it 'job performance guidelines' now.


Where I live, their quota ends at the end of the third week of the month, the second week, the cops are out ticketing 5 overs like stink on shiat. Then, it quiets down till next month.........wash, rinse, repeat

And, the police chief here (league city, tx) got fired about 3 months ago because he evidently let the quota system get on paper.
 
2012-06-29 11:06:47 AM

scottydoesntknow: EvilEgg: They WANT to catch people, not make the roads safer.


"Did you really think that we want those laws to be observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against-then you'll know that this is not the age for beautiful gestures. We're after power and we mean it. You fellows were pikers, but we know the real trick, and you'd better get wise to it. There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be enforced nor objectively interpreted-and you create a nation of law-breakers-and then you cash in on guilt"

/anyone got directions to the gulch?
 
2012-06-29 11:06:49 AM
I would have written, "TAX COLLECTOR AHEAD". If the fuzz bust me, then I have an argument to say they are working outside their powers by admitting they collect taxes.
 
2012-06-29 11:07:33 AM

Mister Pleco: I would have written, "TAX COLLECTOR AHEAD". If the fuzz bust me, then I have an argument to say they are working outside their powers by admitting they collect taxes.


Local governments are allowed to tax you for not speeding too, so I don't see your point.
 
2012-06-29 11:08:08 AM
My supervisor used to have a radar detector in her car. She had once asked a statie about what they thought of it, and since he was a good cop (read: one you'll never read about in the news), he actually told her that he's cool with them because you actually slow down anyway.

Like I said, obviously not the type of cop that ends up on Fark, but at least they exist. Hell of a lot better than the asswipe who tailgated me with his high beams on at midnight on a Saturday night, then gave me a ticket for speeding to get around the other cars and out of his way, farking prick. (Did i mention he started this right as I was passing the exit with all the bars? And that many other people have heard of this happening in the same damned spot?)

\love NHSP, they pretty much ignore you under 75
\\fark MSP though, they'd rather get you for doing 1 mph over than deal with weaving assholes and 64 mph high speed lane drivers
 
2012-06-29 11:08:21 AM

scottydoesntknow: Ha my mom (way back in the day) used to use a CB radio while she was driving to get tips on cop locations. One day she asks if it's clear and a voice pops up saying "You're clear the next 30 miles Sweet Pea." My mom starts hauling ass and less than a mile later she has a cop tailing her, lights flashing. Cop gets out, walks to the window, and says "Well hello there, Sweet Pea."

She stopped trusting the CB after that.


I never actively asked, I just kept my ear on it, and reported my sightings.

Of course, they have smartphone apps for this now, but I don't know how effective they are.
 
2012-06-29 11:08:40 AM
The universal sign for 'speed trap ahead' should be a woman pantomiming exercising with a Shakeweight, as in, "watch out for the jerk off to the right, he's going to ticket you". Unlike high-beam flashing doesn't seem like an arrestable offense and it gets the job done. Pass it on.
 
2012-06-29 11:08:47 AM
It's Houston. I've seen police cars sitting on the side of I10 with their lights on, as a warning. They still catch speeders.
 
2012-06-29 11:09:58 AM

scottydoesntknow: Your problem of understanding stems from the incorrect notion that speedtraps are actually for getting drivers to slow down. Cops do not want drivers to obey the speed limits, or any road laws for that matter, because there would be no revenue coming in. There's a reason why cops in Houston are moving toward more unrecognizable cars


That may be true in some areas, but not others. City, county and state cops in my area, even when sitting on the side of the road looking for speeders do not actually activate their radar unless it looks like someone is going too fast. One of my relatives was once busted by a speed trap that caught her doing 41 in a 20 and the officer writing the ticket told her she wouldn't have been pulled over if she wasn't over 40.
 
2012-06-29 11:10:21 AM

spentmiles: They quit flashing their high beams around here because I'd follow them home and murder them. The gang was like, "Dude, we said you just had to do it once!" So I murdered them too.


... and then you were Forever Alone™ because the gang was made out of just you.
 
2012-06-29 11:11:00 AM

spentmiles: Mister Pleco: I would have written, "TAX COLLECTOR AHEAD". If the fuzz bust me, then I have an argument to say they are working outside their powers by admitting they collect taxes.

Local governments are allowed to tax you for not speeding too, so I don't see your point.


Wouldn't that be a legislative power to tax and not an executive power?
 
2012-06-29 11:12:07 AM

FriarReb98: My supervisor used to have a radar detector in her car. She had once asked a statie about what they thought of it, and since he was a good cop (read: one you'll never read about in the news), he actually told her that he's cool with them because you actually slow down anyway.

Like I said, obviously not the type of cop that ends up on Fark, but at least they exist. Hell of a lot better than the asswipe who tailgated me with his high beams on at midnight on a Saturday night, then gave me a ticket for speeding to get around the other cars and out of his way, farking prick. (Did i mention he started this right as I was passing the exit with all the bars? And that many other people have heard of this happening in the same damned spot?)

\love NHSP, they pretty much ignore you under 75
\\fark MSP though, they'd rather get you for doing 1 mph over than deal with weaving assholes and 64 mph high speed lane drivers


next time, take your foot off the accelerator till you are about 10 under, they love this......trust me, I know from experience. Don't put your foot on the brake though.
 
2012-06-29 11:13:01 AM

Death_Poot: And, the police chief here (league city, tx) got fired about 3 months ago because he evidently let the quota system get on paper.


you poor man, you live close to my sister and her heard of yuppie spawn
 
2012-06-29 11:13:15 AM

Mister Pleco: spentmiles: Mister Pleco: I would have written, "TAX COLLECTOR AHEAD". If the fuzz bust me, then I have an argument to say they are working outside their powers by admitting they collect taxes.

Local governments are allowed to tax you for not speeding too, so I don't see your point.

Wouldn't that be a legislative power to tax and not an executive power?


Civics -101: Legislators write tax law, the executive executes it.
 
2012-06-29 11:13:17 AM

slognard: But Houston police saw it differently, and arrested Plummer for standing in the street where there a sidewalk was present, a misdemeanor charge.
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ummm


Seriously...how are the streets of Houston safer?
 
2012-06-29 11:13:42 AM

RDixon: Instant dick.

Just add uniform and badge.


You forgot the high school diploma.
 
2012-06-29 11:13:51 AM

Burr: scottydoesntknow: Ha my mom (way back in the day) used to use a CB radio while she was driving to get tips on cop locations. One day she asks if it's clear and a voice pops up saying "You're clear the next 30 miles Sweet Pea." My mom starts hauling ass and less than a mile later she has a cop tailing her, lights flashing. Cop gets out, walks to the window, and says "Well hello there, Sweet Pea."

She stopped trusting the CB after that.

I never actively asked, I just kept my ear on it, and reported my sightings.

Of course, they have smartphone apps for this now, but I don't know how effective they are.


They're mildly effective. Basically takes the google maps and shows where people have reported previous traps. I've noticed a lot aren't up to date and stopped using the app entirely. If you really care you're better off with a radar detector/laser jammer.
 
2012-06-29 11:13:55 AM
Where exactly is it spelled out a citizen duty to refrain from talking about police operations they have observed in public exists as a recognized exception to freedom of speech or press?

Obstruction of justice is traditionally interfering with a specific investigation of a specific entity. A driver who has not been caught speeding is not under investigation at the time they receive a warning about a speed trap ahead.
 
2012-06-29 11:14:37 AM
The picture in the article raises a couple of questions:

1. Was the pic taken at her home, at the time of the alleged offense?
2. How long before code enforcement show up and issues her a ticket for not mowing the farking grass ?
 
2012-06-29 11:15:01 AM

Nem Wan: Where exactly is it spelled out a citizen duty to refrain from talking about police operations they have observed in public exists as a recognized exception to freedom of speech or press?

Obstruction of justice is traditionally interfering with a specific investigation of a specific entity. A driver who has not been caught speeding is not under investigation at the time they receive a warning about a speed trap ahead.


They didnt arrest her for that..........technically. For sure, if you pull this action, you better have someone near you direct streaming video to the Internet.
 
2012-06-29 11:16:18 AM

Maud Dib: This is Houston...she's lucky to be alive, and not a corpse in the bayou.

Link


Well that was a depressing read to start the weekend.
 
2012-06-29 11:18:22 AM

Burr: Personally, I think that they shouldn't bust people for speeding, but double the fine and add it on to any other traffic violation you get ticketed for. I will even say that they can pull you over for wreckless op if they feel you are going "too fast" to be in control of your vehicle.

I think people who drive in the passing lane are worse then speeders.


No wreck = wreckless

You sound edumacated.
 
2012-06-29 11:18:28 AM
we're all farkers here, so chances are, we are all up to no good at all times. Drive like grandma. You may get there later, but then you don't have the hassle of courts, probation, fines, lawyers, and confiscation of your selected happy time substance.
 
2012-06-29 11:19:13 AM

emersonbiggins: Mirrorz: Yet no one tickets and arrests those HPD geniuses that jump out in front of moving traffic on foot at intersections & frontage roads to give people tickets for expired registration stickers.

Seen so many drivers almost plow them over when they do that sh*t.

Fort Worth PD goes one better - they park on the left shoulder of a freeway where there's a slight dip in grade and run out into the lane to gesture drivers to pull over, armed only with stupidity and a radar gun.


I've been pulled over like that twice. The second time on Rte 29 (Columbia, MD) where the speed limit is 55 and traffic flows at 70. The Friday before Memorial Day weekend, and this bozo walks INTO the LEFT lane and waves me over.

I should have written him a ticket for negligently putting State resources at risk.
 
2012-06-29 11:19:52 AM

LowbrowDeluxe: scottydoesntknow: Burr: Also, if you are on the interstate, watch the truck drivers. They usually have a good idea of where the LEOs are (with the CB communication and all)

/Had a CB radio in my youth, only to monitor the group channel (19 I think it was) to get a heads up on smokey

Ha my mom (way back in the day) used to use a CB radio while she was driving to get tips on cop locations. One day she asks if it's clear and a voice pops up saying "You're clear the next 30 miles Sweet Pea." My mom starts hauling ass and less than a mile later she has a cop tailing her, lights flashing. Cop gets out, walks to the window, and says "Well hello there, Sweet Pea."

She stopped trusting the CB after that.

You have to admit, that's pretty funny.


You know, one of the best movies about signals intelligence, communications security, and funkspiels is "Smokey And The Bandit".

/CB sucks
//Ham operator, obviously
 
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