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(New Musical Express)   Authorities in Norway arrest Snoop Dogg for marijuana possession   (nme.com) divider line 61
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2012-06-28 10:19:27 PM  
RTFA, submitter. He was fined.
 
2012-06-28 11:53:14 PM  
How long until America legalizes weed? I'm more optimistic these days. I give it 24 months.
 
2012-06-29 12:04:11 AM  
Australia (NSW specifically) changed the laws here so that possession of personal quantities = confiscation and fine, rather than a record. Took em long enough to bring it in though.

I wouldn't be surprised if the confiscation was then resold back into the market lol. Damn cops.
 
2012-06-29 12:16:44 AM  

snuff3r: I wouldn't be surprised if the confiscation was then resold back into the market lol. Damn cops.


Excuse me? That is called stimulus, sir. It allows the police to realize a potfit on their hard work and generates revenue at the wholesale and retail level for the same item. The multiplier effect! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


I need another beer.
 
2012-06-29 12:18:24 AM  
That's like arresting the rain for making you wet. Or arresting the wind for messing up your hair.
 
2012-06-29 12:18:39 AM  

NewportBarGuy: How long until America legalizes weed? I'm more optimistic these days. I give it 24 months.


I used to think there was a chance during Obama's second term -now I highly doubt it. I think there is simply too much money vested in keeping it illegal on the federal level, and even some states are refusing.
 
2012-06-29 12:21:17 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Excuse me? That is called stimulus, sir. It allows the police to realize a potfit on their hard work and generates revenue at the wholesale and retail level for the same item. The multiplier effect! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I need another beer.


Hah, love it.

Of the few dope dealers i've known in my time the largest was a cop. He ran the whole 'business' in cahoots with most of the station he was at. They decided a powershift was needed and arrested him, for which he's currently serving time. His associates still deal. He's a distant relative so i know about it but i've no idea why he didn't just tell everyone what was going on.
 
2012-06-29 01:23:10 AM  

NewportBarGuy: How long until America legalizes weed? I'm more optimistic these days. I give it 24 months.


I'm fine if they legalize it in Canada, as long as they:

1) Don't let you smoke it in public (because unlike alcohol, you're getting other people high by doing that)
2) Don't let you drive stoned.
 
2012-06-29 02:06:06 AM  
Why is this a story? Yes...he smokes pot, and every once in awhile the "authorities" snag him and charge him with a "crime." He pays and everything stops mattering. It's not like most people who are actually afraid to go to jail. Hell, so many people are scared to death of having some sort of criminal record. Even if it's something that most people don't care about.

Most people don't care that you get high. They just care that you know that getting high is illegal and yet you're still willing to do it. That's what makes them mad.
 
2012-06-29 02:30:35 AM  

NewportBarGuy: How long until America legalizes weed? I'm more optimistic these days. I give it 24 months.


If Obama gets reelected, I wouldn't be surprised to see him lower it from Schedule I to a Schedule II or III drug. He can do that without needing to get congress involved.

Full legalization? Not any time soon. Too many powerful interests behind keeping it illegal. Heck, the growers in Humbolt and other places in Northern California organized and fought AGAINST legalization in California last time it was up for vote.
 
2012-06-29 06:47:19 AM  

NewportBarGuy: How long until America legalizes weed? I'm more optimistic these days. I give it 24 months.


Since the Miami Cannabis Cannibal™? At least another decade.
 
2012-06-29 07:41:10 AM  

NewportBarGuy: How long until America legalizes weed? I'm more optimistic these days. I give it 24 months.


really? we can't smoke a cigarette in a bar and pretty soon no jumbo sodas in NYC. i don't foresee the country going one way very soon. i think we may see continued decriminalization in highly populated areas, or possession of small amounts will be a parking ticket type of fine.
 
2012-06-29 07:53:12 AM  
Shooting.. Fish... Barrel...

I think whenever cops are bored & either Snoop or Willie Nelson is in town they go arrest them.
 
2012-06-29 07:57:40 AM  
www.thcfinder.com


Pfft.... amateur....
 
2012-06-29 07:58:19 AM  

NewportBarGuy: How long until America legalizes weed? I'm more optimistic these days. I give it 24 months.


Five years at least, longer for the Federal laws to get changed.

Both New Jersey and New York are trying to pass laws to decriminialize small amounts and in both cases the governors -Cumo (D) and Christie (R)- have said they will not sign the laws if they reach their desks.

You know what seems to be helping the legalization push more than anything? Average people seeing how much smoking pot helps cancer patients.
 
2012-06-29 08:03:26 AM  

Frederick: NewportBarGuy: How long until America legalizes weed? I'm more optimistic these days. I give it 24 months.

I used to think there was a chance during Obama's second term -now I highly doubt it. I think there is simply too much money vested in keeping it illegal on the federal level, and even some states are refusing.


Plus, there's no good reason to make it legal.
 
2012-06-29 08:11:02 AM  
I'd thought he'd nipped that habit in the bud.

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2012-06-29 08:23:50 AM  

LL316:
Plus, there's no good reason to make it legal.


There's no good reason for it to be illegal. And that's reason enough to make it legal.
 
2012-06-29 08:28:48 AM  

LL316: Frederick: NewportBarGuy: How long until America legalizes weed? I'm more optimistic these days. I give it 24 months.

I used to think there was a chance during Obama's second term -now I highly doubt it. I think there is simply too much money vested in keeping it illegal on the federal level, and even some states are refusing.

Plus, there's no good reason to make it legal.


Regulation and taxation. If you make it legal and sell it, you'll make a profit on it. That's as good as a reason as any.
 
2012-06-29 08:47:35 AM  
Snoop: "What's your probable cause, man?"

Cop: "Probable cause? You're Snoop farkin' Dogg!"
 
2012-06-29 08:48:09 AM  
For those of you discussing the US decriminalization/legalization: Here is the problem - The mental image that is conjured up by most Americans and Politicians of your average pot user is pretty much that stereotypical "pot head" - forgetful, eating weird combinations of food, lazy, unmotivated, rambles on about stupid shiat, etc.

We can argue how cancer patients and terminally ill patients are a little better off with a joint here and there, but until the face of the average pot user is redefined and reenforced to the public at large, all we are going to see is stagnation from the Government.

Now if you want to buy into the deeper conspiracy theories, stagnation will continue because of resistance from the paper production industry, bio-fuel industry, and textile industry to name a few. Even deeper would be that the pharmaceutical industry will be at a loss. Got an upset stomach or a headache? Take these drugs made from God knows what or smoke a joint and get on with your day.

Finally as to the Government itself, (I've made this argument before)...the Government will have a difficult time taxing marijuana, or at least, thinks it will. I claim this because if you can grow a veggie garden, you can grow marijuana. Will it be the best, single hit, knock you on your ass, full of THC to the max, shiat that Snoop and Willie smokes? Hell no, but it will be "good enough" for the average Joe. Now I do not know how many people will go through the effort to grow a few ounces at home and trade/sell amongst friends, but the Government certainly thinks that it is enough that it would affect whatever fantasy income (tax) they have conjured up.

Tobacco and alcohol are regulated and taxed with relative ease, this is due by and large to the fact that most people will not go through the effort to grow their own tobacco, age it, dry it, shred it, etc...and yeah, you have some home brewers out there, but many of the people who home brew only do it as a (very expensive and time consuming) hobby.

I guess what I am saying is that I sort of view this as a PR war.
 
2012-06-29 08:53:58 AM  
He was just busted in Sweden a few years ago for the same thing. Granted, Norway is a bit more liberal about weed than Sweden is, but you'd think he'd know to play it cool in Scandinavia.
 
2012-06-29 09:01:44 AM  

LL316: Plus, there's no good reason to make it legal.


1) Increased revenue through direct taxation

2) Decreased prison population (most people in jail are there for minor drug offenses)

3) Decrease in revenue to the Mexican drug cartels, who have been keeping parts of Mexico in a state of civil war for decades, and who occasionally cross the border into the US during their turf wars

4) Decrease in revenue to urban drug gangs, which should lead to a decrease in inner-city violence

5) we stop arresting Willie and Snoop on a regular basis

From my point of view, there are tons of pluses which out-weigh minuses.
 
2012-06-29 09:12:54 AM  

NewportBarGuy: How long until America legalizes weed? I'm more optimistic these days. I give it 24 months.


Legalization? I don't think it will ever happen. The medical marijuana industry is going to quickly get big enough and powerful enough to prevent that from happening. Why would they want to compete with RJ Reynolds or Altria?

They'll join up with the religious fundamentalists and the anti-corporatist Left and you'll have a large enough voting block to ensure that we'll never have truly legalized pot in the country.
 
2012-06-29 09:14:11 AM  

MadSkillz: NewportBarGuy: How long until America legalizes weed? I'm more optimistic these days. I give it 24 months.

I'm fine if they legalize it in Canada, as long as they:

1) Don't let you smoke it in public (because unlike alcohol, you're getting other people high by doing that)
2) Don't let you drive stoned.


Wait, it's not illegal to drive stoned in Canada? It certainly is in the US.
 
2012-06-29 09:24:22 AM  

shpritz: LL316:
Plus, there's no good reason to make it legal.

There's no good reason for it to be illegal. And that's reason enough to make it legal.


no good reason for rational adults but very good reasons for pharmaceutical companies and prison complexes and lawyers and like some one already said mmj farmers.
 
2012-06-29 09:25:04 AM  

Endive Wombat: Finally as to the Government itself, (I've made this argument before)...the Government will have a difficult time taxing marijuana, or at least, thinks it will. I claim this because if you can grow a veggie garden, you can grow marijuana. Will it be the best, single hit, knock you on your ass, full of THC to the max, shiat that Snoop and Willie smokes? Hell no, but it will be "good enough" for the average Joe. Now I do not know how many people will go through the effort to grow a few ounces at home and trade/sell amongst friends, but the Government certainly thinks that it is enough that it would affect whatever fantasy income (tax) they have conjured up.


Why would you go through all the effort to grow it yourself when you could just go down to the grocery store / liquor store / head shop / wherever-you-buy-cigarettes and buy something that's inexpensive, consistent, and professionally packaged? Making your own beer is easy. It's also way more of a pain in the ass than stopping in and buying a six pack of Miller Lite -- or Leinenkugel Summer Shandy, if that's your preference.

Who's going to say, "Hey, let's have some pot brownies for the party... go plant some seeds"? instead of "Hey, let's have some pot brownies for the party... go pick them up at the store."
 
2012-06-29 09:25:36 AM  
Alright, I will take a stab at this!!!

Dwight_Yeast: LL316: Plus, there's no good reason to make it legal.

1) Increased revenue through direct taxation


If you make the tax too high or overly regulated with blue laws, you run the risk of the black market being easier to procure your weed. It would involve a fine balance of reasonable taxation and regulation vs convenience of the black market or growing at home.

2) Decreased prison population (most people in jail are there for minor drug offenses)

You will release thousands of people into an already high unemployment rate economy. The for prisons will suffer, which means more people will be out of jobs (guards for example). Depending on the charges, many people may have a difficult time getting a job due to an arrest and incarceration record.

3) Decrease in revenue to the Mexican drug cartels, who have been keeping parts of Mexico in a state of civil war for decades, and who occasionally cross the border into the US during their turf wars

Their export drug will change from weed to speed and coke. Also, the US may buy weed from the Mexican "farmers" (Mexican cartel owned farms), as they already have the farms and processing and distribution infrastructure in place thus not solving much in the way of defunding the cartels in the first place. Also, most Americans could care less about Mexican gangsters offing other Mexican gangsters, even if innocents are being killed, they still don't care.

4) Decrease in revenue to urban drug gangs, which should lead to a decrease in inner-city violence

While I am sure marijuana makes up a sizable portion of the revenue stream for inner-city gangs, you gotta remember they are diversified too. Again, coke and speed like the Mexican cartels, but also, crack, prostitution, human trafficking, stolen goods, etc.

5) we stop arresting Willie and Snoop on a regular basis

Meh, these stories are amusing.

From my point of view, there are tons of pluses which out-weigh minuses.

How did I do?
 
2012-06-29 09:27:22 AM  

TrainingWheelsNeeded: shpritz: LL316:
Plus, there's no good reason to make it legal.

There's no good reason for it to be illegal. And that's reason enough to make it legal.

no good reason for rational adults but very good reasons for pharmaceutical companies and prison complexes and lawyers and like some one already said mmj farmers.


Prison complexes? Only a tiny percentage of prisons are run by non-government entities.
 
2012-06-29 09:28:46 AM  

SDRR: [www.thcfinder.com image 240x229]


Pfft.... amateur....


That's just for topping one of his pizzas. Poor Willy. He loves his weed way too much. And yes that is possible to do.
 
2012-06-29 09:29:35 AM  
Willie. Dammit. I gotta lay off the prescription pain killers.
 
2012-06-29 09:30:53 AM  

NewportBarGuy: How long until America legalizes weed? I'm more optimistic these days. I give it 24 months.


Pot isn't legal in Norway by any stretch of the imagination. Norway just isn't dumb enough to throw people in jail over having weed, because that is really expensive and a waste of everyone's resources.

Instead they fine you a ton of money. I mean, 12,000 Kroner for 8 grams is quite a hefty sum. For many people that can be like half their take home pay for the month, and is probably a lot more than their rent, even here in Oslo.

The perception of Norway being full of hippies is not very accurate. Norwegians are just painfully pragmatic.
 
2012-06-29 09:31:04 AM  

meanmutton: Endive Wombat: Finally as to the Government itself, (I've made this argument before)...the Government will have a difficult time taxing marijuana, or at least, thinks it will. I claim this because if you can grow a veggie garden, you can grow marijuana. Will it be the best, single hit, knock you on your ass, full of THC to the max, shiat that Snoop and Willie smokes? Hell no, but it will be "good enough" for the average Joe. Now I do not know how many people will go through the effort to grow a few ounces at home and trade/sell amongst friends, but the Government certainly thinks that it is enough that it would affect whatever fantasy income (tax) they have conjured up.

Why would you go through all the effort to grow it yourself when you could just go down to the grocery store / liquor store / head shop / wherever-you-buy-cigarettes and buy something that's inexpensive, consistent, and professionally packaged? Making your own beer is easy. It's also way more of a pain in the ass than stopping in and buying a six pack of Miller Lite -- or Leinenkugel Summer Shandy, if that's your preference.

Who's going to say, "Hey, let's have some pot brownies for the party... go plant some seeds"? instead of "Hey, let's have some pot brownies for the party... go pick them up at the store."


I would love to be able to have a small grow room with no fear of reprisal. Horticulture is interesting and fun! I also like to grow tomato plants, corn, squash and zucchini (I have a small backyard). I would love it even more if I could pop into the corner store and get a cannabis lollipop or brownie on my way to the park or lake. Both would be great options.
 
2012-06-29 09:32:57 AM  
So he hasn't learned that everyone on earth knows he's probably got weed on him at all times? Let someone in you entourage carry it FFS.
 
2012-06-29 09:40:02 AM  

meanmutton: Endive Wombat: Finally as to the Government itself, (I've made this argument before)...the Government will have a difficult time taxing marijuana, or at least, thinks it will. I claim this because if you can grow a veggie garden, you can grow marijuana. Will it be the best, single hit, knock you on your ass, full of THC to the max, shiat that Snoop and Willie smokes? Hell no, but it will be "good enough" for the average Joe. Now I do not know how many people will go through the effort to grow a few ounces at home and trade/sell amongst friends, but the Government certainly thinks that it is enough that it would affect whatever fantasy income (tax) they have conjured up.

Why would you go through all the effort to grow it yourself when you could just go down to the grocery store / liquor store / head shop / wherever-you-buy-cigarettes and buy something that's inexpensive, consistent, and professionally packaged? Making your own beer is easy. It's also way more of a pain in the ass than stopping in and buying a six pack of Miller Lite -- or Leinenkugel Summer Shandy, if that's your preference.

Who's going to say, "Hey, let's have some pot brownies for the party... go plant some seeds"? instead of "Hey, let's have some pot brownies for the party... go pick them up at the store."


I guess I was seeing it being more of a hobby and taste preference if you will. For example, I exclusively grow obscure heirloom tomatoes and mega hot peppers. Both of which I cannot get at a very nice grocery store or even the farmers market. I've got a large garden, an Aerogarden and another homemade hydro setup all for peppers and tomatoes.

If I were to grow weed, with a little study and experimentation, I am sure I could grow some potent shiat. And that is the issue that the Feds have. I would be willing to bet with my setup between the hydro and actual garden, I could easily get 50lbs per year. My friends, my family and me would then have almost no need to buy from a regulated and taxed reseller.

And yeah, you are probably correct in that most people would rather just stop at the local weed shop, get what they need and go. But I think my example is accurate enough to the point that the Feds stand to lose enough revenue that it becomes a problem for them. Yeah, the Federal government is nothing but money grabbing whores, where a potentially huge revenue stream is not happening because a few people will not participate in said stream...but you get my point here I hope.
 
2012-06-29 09:41:43 AM  

meanmutton: TrainingWheelsNeeded: shpritz: LL316:
Plus, there's no good reason to make it legal.

There's no good reason for it to be illegal. And that's reason enough to make it legal.

no good reason for rational adults but very good reasons for pharmaceutical companies and prison complexes and lawyers and like some one already said mmj farmers.

Prison complexes? Only a tiny percentage of prisons are run by non-government entities.


well, the term also speaks to the idea that the companies and corporations who provide goods and services to government run facilities benefit from having full prisons as well.
 
2012-06-29 09:41:54 AM  

Beta Tested: 12,000 Kroner


Can you translate that into Canada dollars then to US dollars?
 
2012-06-29 09:49:41 AM  

ShawnDoc: If Obama gets reelected, I wouldn't be surprised to see him lower it from Schedule I to a Schedule II or III drug. He can do that without needing to get congress involved.


Marinol is Schedule III and so should cannabis. There was a recommendation to make it Schedule IV. And so should cannabis.
 
2012-06-29 09:53:50 AM  

Endive Wombat: Beta Tested: 12,000 Kroner

Can you translate that into Canada dollars then to US dollars?


Roughly $2050.23 Cdn.
 
2012-06-29 09:55:58 AM  
Every time I heard about a musician being arrested in Norway I'm just happy it's not Varg
 
2012-06-29 09:57:01 AM  

Dwight_Yeast: NewportBarGuy: How long until America legalizes weed? I'm more optimistic these days. I give it 24 months.

Five years at least, longer for the Federal laws to get changed.

Both New Jersey and New York are trying to pass laws to decriminialize small amounts and in both cases the governors -Cumo (D) and Christie (R)- have said they will not sign the laws if they reach their desks.

You know what seems to be helping the legalization push more than anything? Average people seeing how much smoking pot helps cancer patients.



To be accurate ..

Cuomo (D) supports decriminalization. The bill was defeated in the Republican-controlled state legislature.

Conversely, in NJ, Christie (R) has said he will veto the decrim bill that their state legislature already passed.

So.. goddamn it.
 
2012-06-29 10:00:54 AM  

Endive Wombat: Beta Tested: 12,000 Kroner

Can you translate that into Canada dollars then to US dollars?


Google FTW: 2 005.512 U.S. dollars
 
2012-06-29 10:02:39 AM  

Boudica's War Tampon: SDRR: [www.thcfinder.com image 240x229]


Pfft.... amateur....

That's just for topping one of his pizzas. Poor Willy. He loves his weed way too much. And yes that is possible to do.


That's crazy talk,
 
2012-06-29 10:05:04 AM  

TrainingWheelsNeeded: shpritz: LL316:
Plus, there's no good reason to make it legal.

There's no good reason for it to be illegal. And that's reason enough to make it legal.

no good reason for rational adults but very good reasons for pharmaceutical companies and prison complexes and lawyers and like some one already said mmj farmers.


I'll agree that those are reasons, but they are not good reasons. Quite the contrary, they are very bad reasons.
 
2012-06-29 10:47:40 AM  
Myth Confirmed!
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2012-06-29 10:47:45 AM  

Boudica's War Tampon: And yes that is possible to do.


What a loon.
 
2012-06-29 11:04:02 AM  

Endive Wombat:
1) Increased revenue through direct taxation

If you make the tax too high or overly regulated with blue laws,


So don't do that

2) Decreased prison population (most people in jail are there for minor drug offenses)

You will release thousands of people into an already high unemployment rate economy. The for prisons will suffer, which means more people will be out of jobs (guards for example). Depending on the charges, many people may have a difficult time getting a job due to an arrest and incarceration record.


Legalization doesn't mean automatic release for all prior offenders. It should, and, if somehow it did, there's no reason not to have their records expunged as well. But what you're saying is it's good that they're in prison, fark them and let them rot. I've got a great idea for you: let's make having a birthday on a day that ends in 1 illegal. That will clear out millions of job-seekers AND create more prison jobs!

3) Decrease in revenue to the Mexican drug cartels, who have been keeping parts of Mexico in a state of civil war for decades, and who occasionally cross the border into the US during their turf wars

Their export drug will change from weed to speed and coke.


Because...why? The demand for those will suddenly go up for some reason?

Also, the US may buy weed from the Mexican "farmers" (Mexican cartel owned farms), as they already have the farms and processing and distribution infrastructure in place thus not solving much in the way of defunding the cartels in the first place.

We have all that shiat here, why wouldn't farms spring up in the U.S.? It's easy to grow. Hey, the laid-off prison guards could work them!

Also, most Americans could care less about Mexican gangsters offing other Mexican gangsters, even if innocents are being killed

About the gangsters, probably not. About the innocents, "most" could probably care a lot less, yes.

4) Decrease in revenue to urban drug gangs, which should lead to a decrease in inner-city violence

While I am sure marijuana makes up a sizable portion of the revenue stream for inner-city gangs, you gotta remember they are diversified too. Again, coke and speed like the Mexican cartels, but also, crack, prostitution, human trafficking, stolen goods, etc.


So it's better to leave them that sizable portion?

From my point of view, there are tons of pluses which out-weigh minuses.

How did I do?


At parroting bullshiat war-on-drugs propaganda, excellently. At critical thinking, disgustingly awful.
 
2012-06-29 11:20:44 AM  

Precision Boobery: At parroting bullshiat war-on-drugs propaganda, excellently. At critical thinking, disgustingly awful.


You know I was taking a devils advocate position on this right?
 
2012-06-29 12:13:19 PM  

Endive Wombat: 2) Decreased prison population (most people in jail are there for minor drug offenses)

You will release thousands of people into an already high unemployment rate economy. The for prisons will suffer, which means more people will be out of jobs (guards for example). Depending on the charges, many people may have a difficult time getting a job due to an arrest and incarceration record.


You're right; we should keep putting non-violent "criminals" in jail to help protect our economy!

/I know, devil's advocate and all
 
2012-06-29 12:13:45 PM  
If I were to grow weed, with a little study and experimentation, I am sure I could grow some potent shiat. And that is the issue that the Feds have. I would be willing to bet with my setup between the hydro and actual garden, I could easily get 50lbs per year. My friends, my family and me would then have almost no need to buy fr ...

Yes, but any money you make from growing and selling pot would be taxed as income.. Well of course you would still have to declare the income.
 
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