FARK.com: (7187468) You've just been convicted of setting your home on fire. Do you: A) Accept the verdict with dignity? B) Vow to appeal? C) Pop a cyanide pill into your mouth?

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		You've just been convicted of setting your home on fire. Do you: A) Accept the verdict with dignity? B) Vow to appeal? C) Pop a cyanide pill into your mouth? (azfamily.com)		78
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dahmers love zombie		2012-06-28 09:43:30 PM

Really should have linked this from CNn.

Fark Me To Tears		2012-06-28 09:48:34 PM

C) Pop a cyanide pill into your mouth?

You know whose wife did this after she married him?

Gyrfalcon		2012-06-28 09:57:17 PM

Wow, how bad was the fire?!?

Kanemano		2012-06-28 10:00:01 PM

told you he was hard core

poxic		2012-06-28 10:00:28 PM

Those who have trouble thinking things through just lost their vice-president.

Bit'O'Gristle		2012-06-28 10:01:44 PM

Sighs...man..if we could only start a trend of this ...the prisons would be empty, and millions of tax dollars saved, less scumbags causing trouble.

orclover		2012-06-28 10:02:48 PM

On Thursday, a jury found Marin guilty of arson of an occupied structure. Prosecutors said when the trial began in May that a guilty verdict could mean a sentence of up to 16 years in prison.

Yea fark that, i'd pop a quick exit too. Although I imagine cyanide is a nasty way to go. They should hand out cyanide pills to people just before they read their verdict in court, would save alot of hassle for all involved.

capitafun		2012-06-28 10:05:38 PM

He looked pretty overwhelmed by that verdict.

oukewldave		2012-06-28 10:06:45 PM

I doubt he would have gotten 16 years. He didn't kill anyone. My GED in law says a couple years at most.

Anagrammer		2012-06-28 10:07:33 PM

You've just been convicted of setting your home on fire. Do you: A) Accept the verdict with dignity? B) Vow to appeal? C) Pop a cyanide pill into your mouth?

For anyone else, I would choose C. It'll help keep the costs down under Obama's heath care tax increase.

lohphat		2012-06-28 10:07:53 PM

Thank you for your service.

...to the taxpayers.

Cybernetic		2012-06-28 10:09:13 PM

dahmers love zombie: Really should have linked this from CNn.

I see what you did there.

Atomic Spunk		2012-06-28 10:09:41 PM

FTA: "...Marin had donned a scuba tank and mask as he was scrambling to get out of the smoke and flames. He then crawled out of a second-story window and climbed down an emergency ladder.

Prosecutors said this was not a narrow escape, but a well thought-out plan..."

Really? It's a well thought-out plan to light the fire and be RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FLAMES?

Arkanaut		2012-06-28 10:09:59 PM

I'm going to set fire to Disney World!

nytmare		2012-06-28 10:10:01 PM

Anagrammer: You've just been convicted of setting your home on fire. Do you: A) Accept the verdict with dignity? B) Vow to appeal? C) Pop a cyanide pill into your mouth?

For anyone else, I would choose C. It'll help keep the costs down under Obama's heath care tax increase.

Are you the designated Fark whiner?

Man On Pink Corner		2012-06-28 10:10:18 PM

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spamdog		2012-06-28 10:13:31 PM

This was a pretty lame multiple choice headline. Pretty understandable why someone might kill themselves rather than face a stiff jail term.

/yes, I understand that he wouldn't have gotten 16 years
//Anagrammer, you're a biatch.

NightSteel		2012-06-28 10:14:15 PM

From TFA: According to the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office

Yeah, I wouldn't want anything to do with Sheriff Joe's lockups either.

Cybernetic		2012-06-28 10:14:20 PM

orclover: Yea fark that, i'd pop a quick exit too. Although I imagine cyanide is a nasty way to go. They should hand out cyanide pills to people just before they read their verdict in court, would save alot of hassle for all involved.

It's not like they sell those at Walgreen's. And somehow I think if I Google "Where can I buy cyanide" the Homeland Security folks will be at my door almost imme

dbax1985		2012-06-28 10:14:58 PM

After reading that this was in Maricopa County, my answer would be "C".

/Hell yes "C"
//Fark you, Sheriff Joe.

Real Women Drink Akvavit		2012-06-28 10:15:51 PM

The problem with option C is that from what I've read about half of the US prison population is in for drug offenses and they are considered nonviolent offenders. Just call up the Portuguese and ask them how they implemented their decriminalization program (which seems to have been fairly successful), turn the druggies out of our prisons and save us tons of money in the process.

Cyanide for everyone else. Their option, of course.

Gyrfalcon		2012-06-28 10:15:59 PM

Atomic Spunk: FTA: "...Marin had donned a scuba tank and mask as he was scrambling to get out of the smoke and flames. He then crawled out of a second-story window and climbed down an emergency ladder.

Prosecutors said this was not a narrow escape, but a well thought-out plan..."

Really? It's a well thought-out plan to light the fire and be RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FLAMES?

He thought it out in a well.

lohphat		2012-06-28 10:17:02 PM

I bet he hid it taped to the inside of the bottle cap.

And yeah, the cardio-pulmonary paralysis caused by cyanide must be an unpleasant way to go, but it's not as bad as dying slowly from cancer and chemo.

Lawnchair		2012-06-28 10:19:18 PM

oukewldave: I doubt he would have gotten 16 years. He didn't kill anyone. My GED in law says a couple years at most.

And, seeing that the fire was three years ago, if he's been in pre-trial custody that long (?? - if his finances were that bad, could he bail bonds?) he wouldn't be that far from 'time served'.

That said:

57+masters degree+800 credit score == very, very hard to find a job
57+broke+felony+in the clink for the last 3-5 years == you be farked

Cyno01		2012-06-28 10:22:13 PM

Maricopa County... yeah, i would too.

pedrop357		2012-06-28 10:22:55 PM

Cybernetic: And somehow I think if I Google "Where can I buy cyanide" the Homeland Security folks will be at my door almost imme

:)

They must have gotten you first. I'm still here, using the toile

Bill_Wick's_Friend		2012-06-28 10:23:33 PM

That's why I keep a cyanide pill in the false heel of my shoe at all times.

There's a dagger in the toe of my other shoe.

/love child of Rosa Klebb and Göring .

Biser		2012-06-28 10:23:59 PM

Cybernetic: orclover: It's not like they sell those at Walgreen's. And somehow I think if I Google "Where can I buy cyanide" the Homeland Security folks will be at my door almost imme

They used to sell it in hardware stores to get rid of ground dwelling hornets. I bought some back when I was in high school a long long time ago. Worked well.

Gaius		2012-06-28 10:25:59 PM

Of course sheriff Joe's deputy just stands there with her thumb up her ass while the guy dies. The last time I was in court, the deputy guarding the county inmates was asleep the entire time.

Mr. Eugenides		2012-06-28 10:26:40 PM

The thing I don't understand is how it's arson if it's your own property you're destroying.

afghanwhiggle		2012-06-28 10:33:30 PM

So this guy just made a cyanide pill? Hmmph.

afghanwhiggle		2012-06-28 10:35:21 PM

Mr. Eugenides: The thing I don't understand is how it's arson if it's your own property you're destroying.

He would've been just fine if he hadn't submitted an insurance claim.

pedrop357		2012-06-28 10:35:28 PM

Mr. Eugenides: The thing I don't understand is how it's arson if it's your own property you're destroying.

Insurance fraud, yes. But I don't know about arson. Who's the victim?

afghanwhiggle		2012-06-28 10:37:29 PM

toraque		2012-06-28 10:38:22 PM

Bill_Wick's_Friend: That's why I keep a cyanide pill in the false heel of my shoe at all times.

There's a dagger in the toe of my other shoe.

/love child of Rosa Klebb and Göring .

A dagger won't do you much good when it comes down to it. I keep a cyanide pill in my collar, a garrotte in my belt, a bayonet in my left boot and a rottweiler in . . . well, you probably don't want to know where I keep Chopper.

require PDA		2012-06-28 10:39:41 PM

I've often wondered why this isn't an option. Once you've been in prison what's the point?

Lawnchair		2012-06-28 10:41:48 PM

pedrop357: Mr. Eugenides: The thing I don't understand is how it's arson if it's your own property you're destroying.

Insurance fraud, yes. But I don't know about arson. Who's the victim?

First responders from one argument. You can say "look, there's nobody in there". Firemen are still obliged to check room-to-room if they possibly can, protect neighboring properties, etc.

InternetSecurityGuard		2012-06-28 10:42:03 PM

Sad that the guy saw that taking his own life was his only way out.

BafflerMeal		2012-06-28 10:52:11 PM

lohphat: the cardio-pulmonary paralysis caused by cyanide must be an unpleasant way to go

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detritus		2012-06-28 10:56:06 PM

Every single defendant should be given this opportunity upon conviction.

LoneWolf343		2012-06-28 11:23:51 PM

TV's Vinnie		2012-06-28 11:24:37 PM

"Marin was in deep financial trouble.

He was broke, in part because of that home, and he couldn't sell or refinance it."

Meanwhile, the bastard responsible for causing the Wall Street mess that resulted in the housing bubble, ordered up another platter piled with Wagu steaks.

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TV's Vinnie		2012-06-28 11:26:37 PM

Fark Me To Tears: C) Pop a cyanide pill into your mouth?

You know whose wife did this after she married him?

www.toonbarn.com

MY MOM!!!

To The Escape Zeppelin!		2012-06-28 11:35:13 PM

I have a question. If an employer like Walmart can take a life insurance policy out on employee based on the idea that if he dies they'll be financially hurt, why can't I take an insurance policy out on my neighbor's home on the idea that any damage it receives will hurt my property values?

ThrobblefootSpectre		2012-06-28 11:36:17 PM

Biser: Cybernetic: orclover: It's not like they sell those at Walgreen's. And somehow I think if I Google "Where can I buy cyanide" the Homeland Security folks will be at my door almost imme

They used to sell it in hardware stores to get rid of ground dwelling hornets. I bought some back when I was in high school a long long time ago. Worked well.

It is used in developing film too (remember old chemical based film?), which was quite common as a home hobby before the dawn of digital photography. It was easy and not at all unusual to order a jar of cyanide salt from a photography supplier.

Ken VeryBigLiar		2012-06-28 11:40:36 PM

To The Escape Zeppelin!: I have a question. If an employer like Walmart can take a life insurance policy out on employee based on the idea that if he dies they'll be financially hurt, why can't I take an insurance policy out on my neighbor's home on the idea that any damage it receives will hurt my property values?

Because the neighbor's policy allows for the removal of debris, so the site will be cleaned up irrespective. And Key Man policies were meant more for sales people and execs, Wal-Mart got a wrap on the knuckles for doing that.

halB		2012-06-28 11:44:36 PM

Was he the only one in the building? Is anyone else bothered that he was convicted of arson in an occupied building (which is probably the difference between probation and PMITAP) and it seems he was the only one occupying it?

Man On Pink Corner		2012-06-28 11:59:41 PM

TV's Vinnie: Meanwhile, the bastard responsible for causing the Wall Street mess that resulted in the housing bubble, ordered up another platter piled with Wagu steaks.

Yeah, it's always somebody else's fault, isn't it?

sjcousins		2012-06-29 12:14:52 AM

Article doesn't say how the fire started. It shouldn't be hard to determine. That's what most arson cases are based on. You can't convict someone of arson purely on the way they escaped and by the fact they're in debt can you?

Either way, I feel sorry for him. He didn't hurt anyone, he was just desperate and in debt. Now he has no home, still has crushing debt, and jail time. Cyanide pill kinda makes sense subby.

balancing act		2012-06-29 12:20:40 AM

sjcousins: Article doesn't say how the fire started. It shouldn't be hard to determine. That's what most arson cases are based on. You can't convict someone of arson purely on the way they escaped and by the fact they're in debt can you?

Either way, I feel sorry for him. He didn't hurt anyone, he was just desperate and in debt. Now he has no home, still has crushing debt, and jail time. Cyanide pill kinda makes sense subby.

Iirc, there was trails of flammable material throughout the house, and evidence of gasoline used as an accellerant.

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