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(Ars Technica)   SWAT team throws flashbangs, raids wrong home due to open WiFi network that allowed the teen next door to make online threats against the local cops. But wait, there's more   (arstechnica.com) divider line 210
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2012-06-28 09:16:55 PM  
Doggone that 99% making the other 1% look bad.
 
2012-06-28 09:27:21 PM  
I'm going to post the following from TFA without comment.

So the cops did some more investigation and decided that the threats had come from a house on the same street. This time, apparently recognizing they had gone a little nuts on the first raid, the police department didn't send a SWAT team at all. Despite believing that they now had the right location and that a threat-making bomber lurked within, they just sent officers up to the door.

"We did surveillance on the house, we knew that there were little kids there, so we decided we weren't going to use the SWAT team," the police chief told the paper after the second raid. "We did have one officer with a ram to hit the door in case they refused to open the door. That didn't happen, so we didn't need to use it."
 
2012-06-28 09:29:37 PM  
I love open wifi connections
 
2012-06-28 09:54:28 PM  
And if the homeowner had a gun, and thought, as most of us would, they were under attack(which they were) and shots were traded, wounding or killing one or more people?

How about a little more "policing" and less "COD" guys.

It says serve and protect, not search and destroy on the cars...

When did we become so damn afraid, needing to swing the big dick as a Weeners.
 
2012-06-28 10:20:18 PM  
So SWAT raided the wrong house, terrorizing innocent people and causing property damage, but then they went to the real perp's home they treated them with dignity and respect.

That's some great police work there, guys.
 
2012-06-28 10:31:26 PM  
At what point do we, as the employers of these f*cking lunatics, demand that they stop doing things like this? Is there any outrage at all, or have the majority of us surrendered to complacency and a false sense of security?
 
2012-06-28 10:39:03 PM  
Wooohooo, crush those Luddites under the boot heel of the lawls!
 
2012-06-28 10:40:37 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: At what point do we, as the employers of these f*cking lunatics, demand that they stop doing things like this? Is there any outrage at all, or have the majority of us surrendered to complacency and a false sense of security?


Considering that the police are just agents of the city to generate revenue, it won't happen unless we elect brand new officials. Which, let's be honest, won't happen because too many farktards are too busy thinking their "team" is the best and vote blindly for their side.

And fark the police. I hope they get the shiat sued out of them.
 
hej [TotalFark]
2012-06-28 10:40:56 PM  
Wifi security is simple enough to set up. If you're too lazy to turn it on, you deserve to be assaulted by a SWAT team.
 
2012-06-28 10:41:33 PM  
Laws are for little people
 
2012-06-28 10:43:44 PM  
I like how the video ends with them talking about ensuring the safety of "these brave men and women."

Because nothing says brave like sending a SWAT team to blow the shiat out of some stupid teenager's house.
 
2012-06-28 10:44:23 PM  
And that's why my Wifi network is named FBI Van 4
 
2012-06-28 10:44:25 PM  
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2012-06-28 10:46:14 PM  
What no golden retriever around to shoot? They are slacking.
 
2012-06-28 10:46:25 PM  

Fark Me To Tears: So SWAT raided the wrong house, terrorizing innocent people and causing property damage, but then they went to the real perp's home they treated them with dignity and respect.

That's some great police work there, guys.


Out of spite, I would've shattered every window in the place as well as destroy the front door.

Well that was enough tough guy talk. I am glad stories like this makes my paranoia seem logical. Lock down everything and don't trust too many people.
 
2012-06-28 10:47:18 PM  
Glad to see my hometown police force getting national recognition.

Seriouly, though, the local PD are in full paramilitary mode pretty much all the time.

They sent dogs in after a PC tech at one of the local schools as he was doing weekend upgrades in preparation for some standardized tests. No calls to the school district or alarm company, just send in the hounds.
 
2012-06-28 10:47:57 PM  
Because most people aren't stupid enough to make obvious threats from their own home Internet connection...

Apparently we are getting news stories from the Fringe universe now.
 
2012-06-28 10:48:37 PM  

baka-san: And if the homeowner had a gun, and thought, as most of us would, they were under attack(which they were) and shots were traded, wounding or killing one or more people?


That's what the kilo of coke in the back of the cruiser is for.
 
2012-06-28 10:49:17 PM  

baka-san: When did we become so damn afraid, needing to swing the big dick as a Weeners.


It's not about fear, it's about the Rambo complex. We live in a nation of man-children who want to live out their childhood fantasies of being a hero.
 
2012-06-28 10:49:22 PM  

hej: Wifi security is simple enough to set up. If you're too lazy to turn it on, you deserve to be assaulted by a SWAT team.


It is simple to set up, but not everyone knows that it even exists. Also you have the right to not run a secure network and should have a reasonable expectation that SWAT won't assault your house.

I worked with an FBI SWAT agent for some time in Afghanistan and we were talking about missions and the difference between conducting operations in America and in Afghanistan. He started talking about this big bust and I chimed in I would just of went in guns a blazin'. He asked me why, we sat there and reasoned it out. Our conclusion, there is never any initial circumstance that SWAT should just go assaulting a house because it is a high risk-low reward situation.

It is time to demilitarize American police forces.
 
2012-06-28 10:49:25 PM  
Is SWAT one of those "use it or lose it" items in the budget, or is it a pay-to-play kind of thing? It might explain why SWAT seems to be used so liberally. I mean, what else could these guys be up to in Evansville, Indiana?
 
2012-06-28 10:50:59 PM  

tortilla burger: Is SWAT one of those "use it or lose it" items in the budget, or is it a pay-to-play kind of thing? It might explain why SWAT seems to be used so liberally. I mean, what else could these guys be up to in Evansville, Indiana?


I don't think so, but hell, they got all this DHS money and they're trained and everything, and maybe this could be HERO TIME.
 
2012-06-28 10:51:46 PM  
With the incidents about cartels in Cop uniforms I've heard from near the border, I can't wait till some paranoid dude takes out 12 cops for this shiat. Oops, collateral damage in the name of security.
 
2012-06-28 10:51:52 PM  

elffster: Laws are for little people


www.wearysloth.com
 
2012-06-28 10:52:04 PM  

baka-san: And if the homeowner had a gun, and thought, as most of us would, they were under attack(which they were) and shots were traded, wounding or killing one or more people?

How about a little more "policing" and less "COD" guys.

It says serve and protect, not search and destroy on the cars...

When did we become so damn afraid, needing to swing the big dick as a Weeners.


At least their SWAT helmets still have a peace sign:
www.peacelink.it

On a more serious note, wasn't there recently an article describing how Indiana residents can legally shoot and kill cops who break into their houses without cause? This seems like the perfect situation for that.
 
2012-06-28 10:52:19 PM  
I love the comment someone posted on the website about "teaching people who make threats a lesson".

Because blowing up their neighbour's house will totally learn 'em!
 
2012-06-28 10:52:34 PM  
FTA:

Not that all Evansville residents think the SWAT raid was in any way improper. Writing on the same Topix message boards where the initial threats emanated, one resident responded to critics: "They had a warrant. Sometimes warrants turn up nothing. Her home was repaired. On with your life now crusader!!! Lol"

"Noodle heads come on here thinking they are just big bad asses, threatening cops and their families," wrote another, "then the cops come back and biatch slap them with SWAT teams and flash bang grenades. Awesome. Teach these fools a lesson and make examples out of them."


Really dude? DID YOU NOT READ THE STORY BEFORE COMMENTING? They didn't "biatch slap" anyone except some 18-year old chick who hadn't secured her WiFi. The only person they "taught a lesson to" was the INNOCENT civilian with the unsecured WiFi, and the "lesson" was most likely that you can't trust the police. And the only "example" they made was an example of how farking inept they are.

As many have pointed out, the people they REALLY were looking for got the white glove treatment, they weren't "taught a lesson", they didn't get "biatch slapped", and the only "example" is that the cops sure can be sweet when they want to. What do you want to bet that this guy masturbates furiously with both hands while watching Glenn Beck, listening to Lee Greenwood and singing 'God Bless America' at least 10 times a day?
 
2012-06-28 10:52:41 PM  

hej: Wifi security is simple enough to set up. If you're too lazy to turn it on, you deserve to be assaulted by a SWAT team.


^ This should be printed on the front of the Quick Start guide that comes with the router.
 
2012-06-28 10:54:54 PM  

freewill: hej: Wifi security is simple enough to set up. If you're too lazy to turn it on, you deserve to be assaulted by a SWAT team.

^ This should be printed on the front of the Quick Start guide that comes with the router.


Again, you have the right to not run a secure network and should reasonably expect not to be raided by SWAT.
 
2012-06-28 10:55:41 PM  
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2012-06-28 10:55:47 PM  

dlp211: Our conclusion, there is never any initial circumstance that SWAT should just go assaulting a house because it is a high risk-low reward situation.


I read this as "high risk-low retard" situation, and really thought we might have to disagree on the average intelligence of someone requiring a SWAT presence...
 
2012-06-28 10:57:33 PM  
From TFA:Because most people aren't stupid enough to make obvious threats from their own home Internet connection,

Factually this is true. Most people aren't dumb enough to make obvious threat on the internet, period.

But those people that do make threats are often stupid enough to use their own home internet connection, without proxies (or boxxies).
 
2012-06-28 10:57:42 PM  
I wish I could say that I am surprised by the idiocy of this particular group of cops but I cant. People who makes it their lifes work to run around with guns and badges looking for a fight while purposefully acting like a bunch of badasses are rarely on the upper end of the intellectual spectrum.
 
2012-06-28 10:58:05 PM  
You can like.. hack the wifi security and stuff too, anyways also.
 
2012-06-28 10:58:31 PM  

Mikey1969: FTA:

Not that all Evansville residents think the SWAT raid was in any way improper. Writing on the same Topix message boards where the initial threats emanated, one resident responded to critics: "They had a warrant. Sometimes warrants turn up nothing. Her home was repaired. On with your life now crusader!!! Lol"

"Noodle heads come on here thinking they are just big bad asses, threatening cops and their families," wrote another, "then the cops come back and biatch slap them with SWAT teams and flash bang grenades. Awesome. Teach these fools a lesson and make examples out of them."

Really dude? DID YOU NOT READ THE STORY BEFORE COMMENTING? They didn't "biatch slap" anyone except some 18-year old chick who hadn't secured her WiFi. The only person they "taught a lesson to" was the INNOCENT civilian with the unsecured WiFi, and the "lesson" was most likely that you can't trust the police. And the only "example" they made was an example of how farking inept they are.

As many have pointed out, the people they REALLY were looking for got the white glove treatment, they weren't "taught a lesson", they didn't get "biatch slapped", and the only "example" is that the cops sure can be sweet when they want to. What do you want to bet that this guy masturbates furiously with both hands while watching Glenn Beck, listening to Lee Greenwood and singing 'God Bless America' at least 10 times a day?



You beat me to it. Yeah that retard lacks the even most basic of reasoning skills.
 
2012-06-28 11:00:37 PM  
Too bad the real terrorists THE EFFIN' JUDGES are not being held accountable for not doing their jobs and allowing the po lice and the DA's and of course the crime lab to manufacture shiat up and frk over people. If they do their jobs, po and others will actually start obeying the law.
 
2012-06-28 11:01:01 PM  

freewill: hej: Wifi security is simple enough to set up. If you're too lazy to turn it on, you deserve to be assaulted by a SWAT team.

^ This should be printed on the front of the Quick Start guide that comes with the router.


And what about those of us that run both a secured network for our personal use, and an open network for guests and neighbors?
 
2012-06-28 11:01:53 PM  
You never know when voters are gonna get out of hand.

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2012-06-28 11:02:06 PM  

dlp211: freewill: hej: Wifi security is simple enough to set up. If you're too lazy to turn it on, you deserve to be assaulted by a SWAT team.

^ This should be printed on the front of the Quick Start guide that comes with the router.

Again, you have the right to not run a secure network and should reasonably expect not to be raided by SWAT.


I'm not so sure you can have that 'reasonable' expectation though. You are providing a means to perform actions, including illegal ones, online under your name (or IP address, anyway) if you leave the network unsecured. It'd kinda be like openly advertising your car is freely available to borrow anonymously.
 
hej [TotalFark]
2012-06-28 11:04:17 PM  

freewill: hej: Wifi security is simple enough to set up. If you're too lazy to turn it on, you deserve to be assaulted by a SWAT team.

^ This should be printed on the front of the Quick Start guide that comes with the router.


LAWL
 
2012-06-28 11:04:48 PM  
CLOSE BUT NO DOUGHNUT, COPS!
 
2012-06-28 11:05:59 PM  

dlp211: Again, you have the right to not run a secure network and should reasonably expect not to be raided by SWAT.


You also have the right to leave your front door wide open while you're at work, but that doesn't it's a smart thing to do.

If you leave your stuff wide open, you should expect criminals to come in. If criminals come in, you should expect the police to follow.
 
2012-06-28 11:09:41 PM  
My vote is for the public execution of all officers who were involved in the error. There should be zero tolerance for this kind of police action.
 
2012-06-28 11:09:45 PM  

hej: Wifi security is simple enough to set up. If you're too lazy to turn it on, you deserve to be assaulted by a SWAT team.


good analogy. you're a right-thinking person.

/moran
 
2012-06-28 11:10:52 PM  

Nuclear Monk: dlp211: freewill: hej: Wifi security is simple enough to set up. If you're too lazy to turn it on, you deserve to be assaulted by a SWAT team.

^ This should be printed on the front of the Quick Start guide that comes with the router.

Again, you have the right to not run a secure network and should reasonably expect not to be raided by SWAT.

I'm not so sure you can have that 'reasonable' expectation though. You are providing a means to perform actions, including illegal ones, online under your name (or IP address, anyway) if you leave the network unsecured. It'd kinda be like openly advertising your car is freely available to borrow anonymously.


By that reasoning, your ISP could be as easily held responsible. The fact of the matter is that IP addresses are, in the advent of wireless technology, at best an area indicator of said acts.

Again, there is no reason for SWAT to bust down your, mine, or anyone else's doors. It is as I stated earlier it is a high risk-low reward situation. It is better to simply knock.
 
2012-06-28 11:12:08 PM  

freewill: hej: Wifi security is simple enough to set up. If you're too lazy to turn it on, you deserve to be assaulted by a SWAT team.

^ This should be printed on the front of the Quick Start guide that comes with the router.


Gee...didnt realize that was a crime worthy of having the military kick down your door and flashbang your kids.

Oh...hehe...did i say MILITARY? I meant cops.
 
2012-06-28 11:12:30 PM  
What happens when these SWAT boneheads hit a "wrong address" house with armed PTSD veterans inside?
 
2012-06-28 11:13:01 PM  

LarryDan43: What no golden retriever around to shoot? They are slacking.


Actually there was a Pomeranian, but you know, those little farkers are agile and cops aren't the best shots in the world. Last I saw they were chasing it down the street in their Urban Assault Vehicle, launching tear gas canisters at it.
 
2012-06-28 11:13:51 PM  
FTA One used WEP encryption, the other had the more robust WPA2, but the key point from the FBI's perspective was that neither network was unsecured.

I wouldn't exactly call wep a secured network. Wep is like using a twisty-tie to lock your door. Sure, a passerby may be deterred from entering, but not much else.
 
hej [TotalFark]
2012-06-28 11:15:12 PM  

KrispyKritter: hej: Wifi security is simple enough to set up. If you're too lazy to turn it on, you deserve to be assaulted by a SWAT team.

good analogy. you're a right-thinking person.

/moran


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