If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(CNN) NewsFlash Apparently, contempt for Congress is a crime. Subby needs to hire a lawyer   (cnn.com) divider line 353
    More: NewsFlash, criminal contempt, congresses, Jim McGovern, executive privilege, Ted Poe, contempt, House Minority Leader, oversight  
•       •       •

22579 clicks; posted to Main » on 28 Jun 2012 at 5:14 PM (2 years ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»


Want to get NewsFlash notifications in email?

353 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

Archived thread

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | » | Last | Show all
 
2012-06-28 05:56:53 PM

Yakk: And on such a slow news day this will be sure to top the headlines.


+1 intarwebs!
 
2012-06-28 05:57:33 PM

Fuggin Bizzy: I tried to use the ATM at Costco the other day, but all it would give me is $30 bills. I know everything comes bigger there, but that seemed kinda silly.


The ATM at BJ's Warehouse dispenses $20's, but you can only get them in packs of eight.
 
2012-06-28 05:57:33 PM

PanicMan: alcoda: speedycat: Fark yes! I'm glad to see some justice coming from this. As well as more media attention. I anxiously await more. More people need to know about this.

Read the article in Fortune about this. It's kinda all bullshiat.

The Fortune article is very well written, but it directly contradicts everything else made public. So right now, I have no idea what actually happened.

Way to early to take a vote on this, that was definitely a political move. I'm not even sure what Holder is accused of.


agreed, I guess we should all slow down and see what shakes out.
 
2012-06-28 05:58:16 PM

Gyrfalcon: Oo, how scary. They're going to waste more of our time investigating Holder over an issue already proven to be dead, since it's been determined the Department did nothing wrong in "Fast & Furious". I mean nothing ILLEGAL. But let's keep flogging that pollo.


I have a hard time believing there's nothing illegal about providing weapons to a gang in a foreign country and getting 2 border patrol agents killed with said weapons as a result.
 
2012-06-28 05:58:57 PM

Sticky Hands: Stile4aly: I could go out today, buy 50 guns,

Nobody can buy 50 guns.


You can, but the Crips will start following you around wondering why you've got so much drug money.
 
2012-06-28 05:59:02 PM

Triumph: shower_in_my_socks: [lans-soapbox.com image 467x350]

"WE'LL GET THAT OBAMA FOR BRINGING HEALTHCARE TO POOR PEOPLE!"

What, because SCOTUS ok'd "The Insurance Industry Profit Protection and Enhancement Act?" That does nothing for poor people. What a joke.


I've watched that idiot for 5 minutes and he still hasn't explained why 22,000,000 people won't be covered. Can you gimme the punchline?
 
2012-06-28 06:00:23 PM

Biological Ali: skullkrusher: jso2897: qorkfiend: skullkrusher: Tyrone Slothrop: speedycat: Fark yes! I'm glad to see some justice coming from this. As well as more media attention. I anxiously await more. More people need to know about this.

While "Fast and Furious" was a stupid idea, it's not like the drug cartels are lacking in guns.

true but there's an extra squirt of lemon juice in the eye when their doods kill your doods with guns your doods gave them. See Stan, Afghani.

Point of order: there's no proof that Agent Terry was killed by (a Mexican wielding) an F&F gun; all we know is that F&F guns were found among the several weapons at the murder scene.

Yeah, but pointing that out imperiles the narrative that this agent would still be alive if not for the nefarious machinations of the Obama administration, and that those gangsters would have been unarmed but for F&F.
I'll bet you're a blast at parties.

I don't think running interference for F&F is a winning plan. It was a pretty dumb idea.

Disingenuous emotional appeals should be countered on principle, regardless of whether or not one feels they're being employed against a "pretty dumb idea" or not.


I don't think qorkfiend was making an emotional appeal
 
2012-06-28 06:00:48 PM

SithLord: I have nothing BUT contempt for this Congress!


Yah... They stink on ice
 
2012-06-28 06:01:19 PM

Mr. Breeze: Gyrfalcon: Oo, how scary. They're going to waste more of our time investigating Holder over an issue already proven to be dead, since it's been determined the Department did nothing wrong in "Fast & Furious". I mean nothing ILLEGAL. But let's keep flogging that pollo.

I have a hard time believing there's nothing illegal about providing weapons to a gang in a foreign country and getting 2 border patrol agents killed with said weapons as a result.


There's a contention that that is not what happened at all, rather that they lacked enforcement capabilities to stop straw purchase of large quantaties of weapons in Az and were hamstrung by prosecutors.
 
2012-06-28 06:02:27 PM

SithLord: I have nothing BUT contempt for this Congress!


Ditto. Think they'll let us share a cell and read Fark every day, all day?
 
2012-06-28 06:02:29 PM
All these news flashes on the main page. The heat has really gotten to someone.
 
2012-06-28 06:02:34 PM

Gyrfalcon: Sticky Hands: Stile4aly: I could go out today, buy 50 guns,

Nobody can buy 50 guns.

You can, but the Crips will start following you around wondering why you've got so much drug money.


Did you ever buy fifty guns?
 
2012-06-28 06:04:18 PM

skullkrusher: Biological Ali: skullkrusher: jso2897: qorkfiend: skullkrusher: Tyrone Slothrop: speedycat: Fark yes! I'm glad to see some justice coming from this. As well as more media attention. I anxiously await more. More people need to know about this.

While "Fast and Furious" was a stupid idea, it's not like the drug cartels are lacking in guns.

true but there's an extra squirt of lemon juice in the eye when their doods kill your doods with guns your doods gave them. See Stan, Afghani.

Point of order: there's no proof that Agent Terry was killed by (a Mexican wielding) an F&F gun; all we know is that F&F guns were found among the several weapons at the murder scene.

Yeah, but pointing that out imperiles the narrative that this agent would still be alive if not for the nefarious machinations of the Obama administration, and that those gangsters would have been unarmed but for F&F.
I'll bet you're a blast at parties.

I don't think running interference for F&F is a winning plan. It was a pretty dumb idea.

Disingenuous emotional appeals should be countered on principle, regardless of whether or not one feels they're being employed against a "pretty dumb idea" or not.

I don't think qorkfiend was making an emotional appeal


Don't be obtuse. It's unbecoming.
 
2012-06-28 06:05:29 PM
Couldn't Holder simply turn over the documents as he promised? Game over, right?
 
2012-06-28 06:06:29 PM

Biological Ali: skullkrusher: Biological Ali: skullkrusher: jso2897: qorkfiend: skullkrusher: Tyrone Slothrop: speedycat: Fark yes! I'm glad to see some justice coming from this. As well as more media attention. I anxiously await more. More people need to know about this.

While "Fast and Furious" was a stupid idea, it's not like the drug cartels are lacking in guns.

true but there's an extra squirt of lemon juice in the eye when their doods kill your doods with guns your doods gave them. See Stan, Afghani.

Point of order: there's no proof that Agent Terry was killed by (a Mexican wielding) an F&F gun; all we know is that F&F guns were found among the several weapons at the murder scene.

Yeah, but pointing that out imperiles the narrative that this agent would still be alive if not for the nefarious machinations of the Obama administration, and that those gangsters would have been unarmed but for F&F.
I'll bet you're a blast at parties.

I don't think running interference for F&F is a winning plan. It was a pretty dumb idea.

Disingenuous emotional appeals should be countered on principle, regardless of whether or not one feels they're being employed against a "pretty dumb idea" or not.

I don't think qorkfiend was making an emotional appeal

Don't be obtuse. It's unbecoming.


I honestly have no idea wtf you're talking about. Emotional appeals - bad. Defending F&F - kinda dumb since it was a dumb idea. That clear everything up for you?
 
2012-06-28 06:06:44 PM

RibbyK: Couldn't Holder simply turn over the documents as he promised? Game over, right?


Worked for Obama and his birth certificate. I see no reason it shouldn't work here.
 
2012-06-28 06:07:31 PM
"I swear these guys are amateurs"

rickmc.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-06-28 06:07:35 PM
"Apparently, contempt for Congress is a crime."

Yes. Yes, it is.
 
2012-06-28 06:08:23 PM

PanicMan: alcoda: speedycat: Fark yes! I'm glad to see some justice coming from this. As well as more media attention. I anxiously await more. More people need to know about this.

Read the article in Fortune about this. It's kinda all bullshiat.

The Fortune article is very well written, but it directly contradicts everything else made public. So right now, I have no idea what actually happened.

Way to early to take a vote on this, that was definitely a political move. I'm not even sure what Holder is accused of.


He's accused of not turning over doccuments that are claimed by executive privilege.
 
2012-06-28 06:10:06 PM

skullkrusher: Can you gimme the punchline?


Sure - Democrats pretended they passed a universal coverage bill. This bill benefits insurance companies - it was corporate interests that won out (hence no public option). It's no different than when Big Pharma got the republicans to push through the Prescription Drug add-in to Medicare.
 
2012-06-28 06:10:50 PM
neveryetmelted.comthedailyshow.mtvnimages.comi.ytimg.com


LET THE EAGLES SOARRRR, PUTOS TONTOS IDIOTAS!
 
2012-06-28 06:10:55 PM
So let me see if I have this right:

1. ATF runs a wiretap and monitoring sting on gun runners. Calls it Fast and Furious
2. One agent waits until the boss is gone and then buys up a bunch of guns to "track" them.
3. Said agent then goes on vacation when it comes time to retrieve the guns.
4. Agent gets his ass chewed out when he returns, then turns whistelblower.
5. NBC blows the story open with partial excerpts taking things out of context from leaked emails.
6. Outrage ensues.
7. Justice department doesn't know what the fark until they find the documents. Guy in charge takes responsibility.
8. REpublican Darrel Issa starts a major investigation into the whole thing, calls HOlder in to testify and requests a ton of documents.
9. Holder complies and also has the justice department start its own investigation into what happened.
10. Issa then requests the documents related to the investigation of the investigation.
11. Holder can't because it would out undercover agents and endanger investigations.
12. Issa threatens him with contempt
13. Holder says his hands are tied and can't do it.
13.5 (Sidebar, Issa openly admits he'd hold him in contempt even if the documents were turned over)
14. Administration declares executive privilege over those documents.
15. Outrage ensues.
16. Contempt proceedings and posturing begins
17. Report surfaces detailing that the whole thing is a sham and that Republicans, Issa included, are only pursuing all of this because of a conspiracy theory that Obama was going to use this program to call for gun control.
18. Fortune mag releases their investigation showing that 1 through 5 was completely ignored by the media and Issa's committee
19. Contempt vote goes down with dems following through on threat to walk out

Am I missing anything?
 
2012-06-28 06:11:00 PM

Mr. Breeze: Gyrfalcon: Oo, how scary. They're going to waste more of our time investigating Holder over an issue already proven to be dead, since it's been determined the Department did nothing wrong in "Fast & Furious". I mean nothing ILLEGAL. But let's keep flogging that pollo.

I have a hard time believing there's nothing illegal about providing weapons to a gang in a foreign country and getting 2 border patrol agents killed with said weapons as a result.


Why do you hate the second amendment? farking commie.
 
2012-06-28 06:12:47 PM

valar_morghulis: Who did he get a blow job from?


Not your mom?
 
2012-06-28 06:13:22 PM

skullkrusher: Biological Ali: skullkrusher: Biological Ali: skullkrusher: jso2897: qorkfiend: skullkrusher: Tyrone Slothrop: speedycat: Fark yes! I'm glad to see some justice coming from this. As well as more media attention. I anxiously await more. More people need to know about this.

While "Fast and Furious" was a stupid idea, it's not like the drug cartels are lacking in guns.

true but there's an extra squirt of lemon juice in the eye when their doods kill your doods with guns your doods gave them. See Stan, Afghani.

Point of order: there's no proof that Agent Terry was killed by (a Mexican wielding) an F&F gun; all we know is that F&F guns were found among the several weapons at the murder scene.

Yeah, but pointing that out imperiles the narrative that this agent would still be alive if not for the nefarious machinations of the Obama administration, and that those gangsters would have been unarmed but for F&F.
I'll bet you're a blast at parties.

I don't think running interference for F&F is a winning plan. It was a pretty dumb idea.

Disingenuous emotional appeals should be countered on principle, regardless of whether or not one feels they're being employed against a "pretty dumb idea" or not.

I don't think qorkfiend was making an emotional appeal

Don't be obtuse. It's unbecoming.

I honestly have no idea wtf you're talking about. Emotional appeals - bad. Defending F&F - kinda dumb since it was a dumb idea. That clear everything up for you?


Who exactly do you imagine was "defending" anything? Or did you just throw out that statement for no particular reason?
 
2012-06-28 06:14:00 PM

skullkrusher: nyseattitude: skullkrusher: nyseattitude: pacified: how much conservative butthurt can one day hold?

Rumor has it they are going to vote to reinstate the Jim Crow laws after the Dem's leave for the day.

wouldn't this be liberal butthurt?

Nah, they are trying to console themselves for the evening. There will be thousands and thousands of Ronald Regan Official Throw Blankets soaking up tears and snuggled with tonight.

I'd say the Holder contempt is like taking an Advil for amputation pain with regards to the Dread Justice Roberts decision


I was kind of lumping them together, but that "Dread Justice Roberts" is hilarious. Made me lol.
 
2012-06-28 06:14:18 PM

Triumph: skullkrusher: Can you gimme the punchline?

Sure - Democrats pretended they passed a universal coverage bill. This bill benefits insurance companies - it was corporate interests that won out (hence no public option). It's no different than when Big Pharma got the republicans to push through the Prescription Drug add-in to Medicare.


I got that part but where does he explain how 22,000,000 (or whatever) people won't be covered?
 
2012-06-28 06:15:30 PM

Triumph: Sure - Democrats pretended they passed a universal coverage bill. This bill benefits insurance companies



Which is why health insurance company stocks are down today, and why they're pouring money into GOP campaign coffers, right?

This bill is a stop gap between where we were before, and a REAL socialized medicine program. It temporarily benefits insurance companies, but they know damn well where this is heading.
 
2012-06-28 06:15:48 PM

Biological Ali: Who exactly do you imagine was "defending" anything? Or did you just throw out that statement for no particular reason?


"Yeah, but pointing that out imperiles the narrative that this agent would still be alive if not for the nefarious machinations of the Obama administration, and that those gangsters would have been unarmed but for F&F."

sounds like a defense through sarcasm, don't you think? As in F&F was no biggie, they would've gotten guns anyway
 
2012-06-28 06:15:49 PM

nyseattitude: skullkrusher: nyseattitude: skullkrusher: nyseattitude: pacified: how much conservative butthurt can one day hold?

Rumor has it they are going to vote to reinstate the Jim Crow laws after the Dem's leave for the day.

wouldn't this be liberal butthurt?

Nah, they are trying to console themselves for the evening. There will be thousands and thousands of Ronald Regan Official Throw Blankets soaking up tears and snuggled with tonight.

I'd say the Holder contempt is like taking an Advil for amputation pain with regards to the Dread Justice Roberts decision

I was kind of lumping them together, but that "Dread Justice Roberts" is hilarious. Made me lol.


Does that mean there will always be a Dread Justice Roberts?
 
2012-06-28 06:16:49 PM

skullkrusher: Biological Ali: Who exactly do you imagine was "defending" anything? Or did you just throw out that statement for no particular reason?

"Yeah, but pointing that out imperiles the narrative that this agent would still be alive if not for the nefarious machinations of the Obama administration, and that those gangsters would have been unarmed but for F&F."

sounds like a defense through sarcasm, don't you think? As in F&F was no biggie, they would've gotten guns anyway


well, yeah.. if it hadn't been for them damn kids.
 
2012-06-28 06:17:07 PM

Codenamechaz: Am I missing anything?


SCOTUS upheld health care individual mandate?
 
2012-06-28 06:17:26 PM

nyseattitude: skullkrusher: nyseattitude: skullkrusher: nyseattitude: pacified: how much conservative butthurt can one day hold?

Rumor has it they are going to vote to reinstate the Jim Crow laws after the Dem's leave for the day.

wouldn't this be liberal butthurt?

Nah, they are trying to console themselves for the evening. There will be thousands and thousands of Ronald Regan Official Throw Blankets soaking up tears and snuggled with tonight.

I'd say the Holder contempt is like taking an Advil for amputation pain with regards to the Dread Justice Roberts decision

I was kind of lumping them together, but that "Dread Justice Roberts" is hilarious. Made me lol.


hehe can't say I made it up. It's been all over the place today.
 
2012-06-28 06:17:50 PM

skullkrusher: jso2897: qorkfiend: skullkrusher: Tyrone Slothrop: speedycat: Fark yes! I'm glad to see some justice coming from this. As well as more media attention. I anxiously await more. More people need to know about this.

While "Fast and Furious" was a stupid idea, it's not like the drug cartels are lacking in guns.

true but there's an extra squirt of lemon juice in the eye when their doods kill your doods with guns your doods gave them. See Stan, Afghani.

Point of order: there's no proof that Agent Terry was killed by (a Mexican wielding) an F&F gun; all we know is that F&F guns were found among the several weapons at the murder scene.

Yeah, but pointing that out imperiles the narrative that this agent would still be alive if not for the nefarious machinations of the Obama administration, and that those gangsters would have been unarmed but for F&F.
I'll bet you're a blast at parties.

I don't think running interference for F&F is a winning plan. It was a pretty dumb idea.


Emotional appeals based on false implications are intellectually dishonest. I would think that those who are all-holy and self-righteous about honesty and transparency and all that good shiat wouldn't employ such tactics - unless, you know, they didn't have a leg to stand on and were just electioneering.
Nobody is defending F&F here, so don't bother squaring off with that strawman.
 
2012-06-28 06:17:51 PM

Sticky Hands: Gyrfalcon: Sticky Hands: Stile4aly: I could go out today, buy 50 guns,

Nobody can buy 50 guns.

You can, but the Crips will start following you around wondering why you've got so much drug money.

Did you ever buy fifty guns?


I never had that kind of drug money.
 
2012-06-28 06:18:05 PM

SithLord: I have nothing BUT contempt for this Congress!


Feed Holder to the Sharkticons!

tfwiki.net
 
2012-06-28 06:18:59 PM

edmo: Codenamechaz: Am I missing anything?

SCOTUS upheld health care individual mandate?


file.walagata.com
 
2012-06-28 06:19:02 PM
Well this was certainly a waste of tax payer money
 
2012-06-28 06:19:05 PM

jso2897: Emotional appeals based on false implications are intellectually dishonest. I would think that those who are all-holy and self-righteous about honesty and transparency and all that good shiat wouldn't employ such tactics - unless, you know, they didn't have a leg to stand on and were just electioneering.
Nobody is defending F&F here, so don't bother squaring off with that strawman.


it sounded to me as if you were using the "They would've gotten guns anyway" defense. If not, I apologize. As I said, not too fired up about F&F but it sure seems like an ill conceived plan
 
2012-06-28 06:19:26 PM
Read the Fortune article here. The GOP hissy fit almost completely bullshiat.

Link
 
2012-06-28 06:20:15 PM

shower_in_my_socks: why they're pouring money into GOP campaign coffers, right?


Bain Capital is giving money to the Obama campaign. Go figure.
 
2012-06-28 06:21:09 PM
paygun

Bush's operation Gunrunner

You're right, then why don't they turn over the documents. That will really embarrass Bush and his admin. We will all see how bad he truly was, yeah lets turn over those documents since this is all Bush's doing.
 
2012-06-28 06:22:14 PM

Fuggin Bizzy: Lou Brown: The amusing thing about the entire conservative outrage over Fast and the Furious is that it totally contradicts the premise that, "Guns don't kill people. People kill people."

That's a great point.


I mentioned that to a 'bagger co-worker and you could actually see his brain seize, and then explode in rage.

/I don't always troll my teabagging co-workers, but when I do, I troll hard and go home
 
2012-06-28 06:22:31 PM

Buffalo77: paygun

Bush's operation Gunrunner

You're right, then why don't they turn over the documents. That will really embarrass Bush and his admin. We will all see how bad he truly was, yeah lets turn over those documents since this is all Bush's doing.


They did turn over those documents.

That's why we know Bush had a gunrunning program that failed in the first place.
 
2012-06-28 06:23:00 PM

Sabyen91:

Does that mean there will always be a Dread Justice Roberts?


I move to call all future Chief Justices by this name.
 
2012-06-28 06:23:39 PM

Buffalo77: paygun

Bush's operation Gunrunner

You're right, then why don't they turn over the documents. That will really embarrass Bush and his admin. We will all see how bad he truly was, yeah lets turn over those documents since this is all Bush's doing.


I see what you did there.

And I LIKE it.
 
2012-06-28 06:24:26 PM
tortilla burger: Sticky Hands: Stile4aly: I could go out today, buy 50 guns,

Nobody can buy 50 guns.

What I saw the 50-pack of glocks at Costco just the other day


Cool hand Loser...
 
2012-06-28 06:24:35 PM

Codenamechaz: Buffalo77: paygun

Bush's operation Gunrunner

You're right, then why don't they turn over the documents. That will really embarrass Bush and his admin. We will all see how bad he truly was, yeah lets turn over those documents since this is all Bush's doing.

They did turn over those documents.

That's why we know Bush had a gunrunning program that failed in the first place.


No. No, they didn't. Your liberal butthurt is showing.
 
2012-06-28 06:25:33 PM

skullkrusher: jso2897: Emotional appeals based on false implications are intellectually dishonest. I would think that those who are all-holy and self-righteous about honesty and transparency and all that good shiat wouldn't employ such tactics - unless, you know, they didn't have a leg to stand on and were just electioneering.
Nobody is defending F&F here, so don't bother squaring off with that strawman.

it sounded to me as if you were using the "They would've gotten guns anyway" defense. If not, I apologize. As I said, not too fired up about F&F but it sure seems like an ill conceived plan


Like many before it. "Sting" operations are always risky. Maybe we should ban them. We haven't.
Maybe we should cut back some of the executive privilege that has been accumulating for the last couple of decades.
We haven't.
Maybe we should cut back on Congess' power and authority, too.
We haven't.
If somebody wants to ACTUALLY address thes matters from a constructive, non-partisan perspective, I say "great" - but let's not pretend that that is what this is. It isn't. It's an entirely partisan fishing expedition timed to coincide with an election, and it should be laughed off - and will be.
 
2012-06-28 06:25:34 PM

Sabyen91: nyseattitude: skullkrusher: nyseattitude: skullkrusher: nyseattitude: pacified: how much conservative butthurt can one day hold?

Rumor has it they are going to vote to reinstate the Jim Crow laws after the Dem's leave for the day.

wouldn't this be liberal butthurt?

Nah, they are trying to console themselves for the evening. There will be thousands and thousands of Ronald Regan Official Throw Blankets soaking up tears and snuggled with tonight.

I'd say the Holder contempt is like taking an Advil for amputation pain with regards to the Dread Justice Roberts decision

I was kind of lumping them together, but that "Dread Justice Roberts" is hilarious. Made me lol.

Does that mean there will always be a Dread Justice Roberts?


I'm not sure what you mean.
 
Displayed 50 of 353 comments

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | » | Last | Show all

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »






Report