YELLOL: Sabyen91: Irregardless: "It's a constitutional tax, biatches"

About time we stop cutting taxes and letting anyone ever make any money ever again.

OK, we get it.. how many posts have you trolled in this one article?

This ruling is not a victory in any way unless you like more taxes for less services and then it's a huge score. Yay!

Oh, shut the fark up. Yellol claiming someone ELSE is a troll. Ironic or expected?

bwilson27: Sabyen91: Irregardless: "It's a constitutional tax, biatches"

About time we stop cutting taxes and killing the country.

Shaddup

Pass.

diaphoresis: Sabyen91: diaphoresis: magusdevil: clowncar on fire: Sabyen91: clowncar on fire: The irresponsible will be tagged about $95 annually as a penalty

Oh, and this is not true at all. Where do you get this crap?

$95 or 1% of income. sorry. Read it on Yahoo so maybe questionable. What is the penalty for failure to purchase health insurance? And yes there is a penalty.

Right now I pay the penalty for you not having insurance so fark YOU!

I don't have insurance. I haven't for 15 yrs. I pay my bills when I 'do' go to the doctor. How is it you're paying for me not having insurance?

NVM.. you're an idiot.

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And if you get hit by a car you are our responsibility. Talk about an idiot.

Yes, we have established you're an idiot. Your CAR insurance takes care of me, if you are at fault... NOT YOUR PERSONAL HEALTH INSURANCE.

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You have no brain. You think..."well, if I don't have a car I don't need auto insurance", You have a body so you need health insurance, you dumb motherfarker.

Mithiwithi: Sabyen91: YELLOL: Sabyen91: Irregardless: "It's a constitutional tax, biatches"

About time we stop cutting taxes and letting anyone ever make any money ever again.

OK, we get it.. how many posts have you trolled in this one article?

This ruling is not a victory in any way unless you like more taxes for less services and then it's a huge score. Yay!

Oh, shut the fark up. Yellol claiming someone ELSE is a troll. Ironic or expected?

I noticed he didn't back up that derp about "less services" when he responded to my post. What he did do is admit his taxes wouldn't go up either, though I'm not sure if he understood that.

My insurance costs have skyrocketed under Obama. But you and your job at Starbucks or wherever haven't seen your costs go up so nobody else in the world has higher insurance costs, the end, you win.

Mithiwithi: Sabyen91: YELLOL: Sabyen91: Irregardless: "It's a constitutional tax, biatches"

About time we stop cutting taxes and letting anyone ever make any money ever again.

OK, we get it.. how many posts have you trolled in this one article?

This ruling is not a victory in any way unless you like more taxes for less services and then it's a huge score. Yay!

Oh, shut the fark up. Yellol claiming someone ELSE is a troll. Ironic or expected?

I noticed he didn't back up that derp about "less services" when he responded to my post. What he did do is admit his taxes wouldn't go up either, though I'm not sure if he understood that.

Yellol is a bad troll. I thought he was a funny troll for awhile. I might have been wrong.

YELLOL: Mithiwithi: Sabyen91: YELLOL: Sabyen91: Irregardless: "It's a constitutional tax, biatches"

About time we stop cutting taxes and letting anyone ever make any money ever again.

OK, we get it.. how many posts have you trolled in this one article?

This ruling is not a victory in any way unless you like more taxes for less services and then it's a huge score. Yay!

Oh, shut the fark up. Yellol claiming someone ELSE is a troll. Ironic or expected?

I noticed he didn't back up that derp about "less services" when he responded to my post. What he did do is admit his taxes wouldn't go up either, though I'm not sure if he understood that.

My insurance costs have skyrocketed under Obama. But you and your job at Starbucks or wherever haven't seen your costs go up so nobody else in the world has higher insurance costs, the end, you win.

Your insurance has skyrocketed under Clinton, Bush and Obama. What, you are 12? Never mind.

Sabyen91: YELLOL: Sabyen91: Irregardless: "It's a constitutional tax, biatches"

About time we stop cutting taxes and letting anyone ever make any money ever again.

OK, we get it.. how many posts have you trolled in this one article?

This ruling is not a victory in any way unless you like more taxes for less services and then it's a huge score. Yay!

Oh, shut the fark up. Yellol claiming someone ELSE is a troll. Ironic or expected?

And with that you made the troll's list. Bye.

YELLOL: Sabyen91: YELLOL: Sabyen91: Irregardless: "It's a constitutional tax, biatches"

About time we stop cutting taxes and letting anyone ever make any money ever again.

OK, we get it.. how many posts have you trolled in this one article?

This ruling is not a victory in any way unless you like more taxes for less services and then it's a huge score. Yay!

Oh, shut the fark up. Yellol claiming someone ELSE is a troll. Ironic or expected?

And with that you made the troll's list. Bye.

OK, NOW I know what irony means.

Excellent, half the thread went away and it's like somebody sprayed some Febreeze on an especially ugly fart. :)

Night all, enjoy your new constitutionally approved tax with less services. You've earned that and you will pay for it... none of this nightmare is going to be free. Good luck with the lower cost exchange options soon ;) to be provided. They were promised and they wouldn't lie about that, lol.

YELLOL: Excellent, half the thread went away and it's like somebody sprayed some Febreeze on an especially ugly fart. :)

Night all, enjoy your new constitutionally approved tax with less services. You've earned that and you will pay for it... none of this nightmare is going to be free. Good luck with the lower cost exchange options soon ;) to be provided. They were promised and they wouldn't lie about that, lol.

What a stupid, stupid person you are.

hey guys.

i found a dignified way to do something.

pacified: hey guys.

i found a dignified way to do something.


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Shoe!

Gyrfalcon: I'm too tired to read the whole opinion right now, but it looks like Scalia's dissent is--as usual--"We've never done anything like this before, so let's not start now."

It is more like...Huh? My backers are not going to be happy about this...

clowncar on fire: Sabyen91: Boudica's War Tampon: Taxes! Taxes! Taxes!

Affordable health care! Affordable health care! Affordable health care!

Amazing how two sides can look at the same thing and see it completely different. I guess it's just politics.

Selfish pricks vs. people who have hearts.

people who have a job and those who don't i guess...

FAIL

YELLOL: Mithiwithi: Sabyen91: YELLOL: Sabyen91: Irregardless: "It's a constitutional tax, biatches"

About time we stop cutting taxes and letting anyone ever make any money ever again.

OK, we get it.. how many posts have you trolled in this one article?

This ruling is not a victory in any way unless you like more taxes for less services and then it's a huge score. Yay!

Oh, shut the fark up. Yellol claiming someone ELSE is a troll. Ironic or expected?

I noticed he didn't back up that derp about "less services" when he responded to my post. What he did do is admit his taxes wouldn't go up either, though I'm not sure if he understood that.

My insurance costs have skyrocketed under Obama. But you and your job at Starbucks or wherever haven't seen your costs go up so nobody else in the world has higher insurance costs, the end, you win.

If you have a non-executive job at Starbucks, you don't have insurance costs because you don't have insurance.

Congratulations. You won.

I own a health insurance agency, and believe that if health care reform is implemented as written, my business will fail. My employees will have to be fired. I also believe that many employers will end up dropping insurance, and many insurance companies, especially the small ones,

will go out of business. The cost to the government will be far higher that forecast by the CBO. At the same time the cost to you for the insurance that you are now legally obligated to buy will skyrocket.

So spike the football, and then fark the cheerleader under the stands. Shower in our tears, revel in our anguish.

Eventually you will come to realize what you got with healthcare reform is a time bomb. It will blow up. It will damage our economy. And in the end the people it was meant to help will be worse off; not better. I weep for them as well.

/my butt hurts so bad it feels like I was anally raped by Godzilla
//And he didn't even use lube

BigBooper: Eventually you will come to realize what you got with healthcare reform is a time bomb. It will blow up. It will damage our economy. And in the end the people it was meant to help will be worse off; not better. I weep for them as well.

bwilson27: Sabyen91: Irregardless: "It's a constitutional tax, biatches"

About time we stop cutting taxes and killing the country.

Shaddup

Typical republican, won't pay his bills. Just pay your taxes, or move to a place where you get to live as good a lifestyle as you do in the US and pay a lower tax rate. There are dozens of countries out there you can pick from.

BigBooper: ....I own a health insurance agency, and believe that if health care reform is implemented as written, my business will fail....

Why not do some actual research, instead of just "believing" things? Oh wait, you're a business owner (I don't believe it for a second)! Everything should stay the way it is, and we should guarantee your business makes a profit!

Revisit a thread on the failed attempt to recall Scott Walker for examples of our Republican friends being gracious in victory. The Democrats I've seen today have been happy the decision went our way - because it's a good thing for America - but there hasn't been even close to the level of gloating we saw from the Right.

Actually, if you read it, they said it was unconstitutional and can't stand. It's wrong, and Congress can't do that.

So they just changed the way they law is worded made it fit so it could be legal. Which is just so nice of them.

/not thrilled with the new power the ruling gave Congress here.
//don't care about health care "for the masses".
///looking forward to paying my "don't have a pilots licence" tax, "don't use government funded internet" tax, and "didn't buy a car this year" tax.

ds615: Actually, if you read it, they said it was unconstitutional and can't stand. It's wrong, and Congress can't do that.

So they just changed the way they law is worded made it fit so it could be legal. Which is just so nice of them.

/not thrilled with the new power the ruling gave Congress here.
//don't care about health care "for the masses".
///looking forward to paying my "don't have a pilots licence" tax, "don't use government funded internet" tax, and "didn't buy a car this year" tax.

Well, by that logic, we already have a "Didn't have a child" tax and a "Didn't buy a house" tax. Oh wait, this is somehow different than a deductible because Seekrit Kenyan Muslim Socialism.

ds615: Actually, if you read it, they said it was unconstitutional and can't stand. It's wrong, and Congress can't do that.

So they just changed the way they law is worded made it fit so it could be legal. Which is just so nice of them.

/not thrilled with the new power the ruling gave Congress here.
//don't care about health care "for the masses".
///looking forward to paying my "don't have a pilots licence" tax, "don't use government funded internet" tax, and "didn't buy a car this year" tax.

Well, welcome to my world... I'm not legally allowed to marry who I want, then I pay extra taxes for not getting married.

ghare: BigBooper: ....I own a health insurance agency, and believe that if health care reform is implemented as written, my business will fail....

Why not do some actual research, instead of just "believing" things? Oh wait, you're a business owner (I don't believe it for a second)! Everything should stay the way it is, and we should guarantee your business makes a profit!

Ok, Time for my "I'm getting a kick" moment

I'm an insurance broker and I own a small agency, and I'm also on a state legislative board of the largest health insurance industry lobbying group in the country. We try to influence what legislation is passed, and how passed legislation is implemented. Yes, we represent the interests of insurance agents, brokers, and companies. So we've obviously looked at, and have been planning for the implementation of the affordable care act since it was passed. I've talked and worked with this law with everyone from the agents who sell health insurance, to labor attorneys, to the presidents of the health insurance companies that operate in Wisconsin. So yes, I've done a fair bit of research. We're all scared shiatless, we are witnessing the beginning of the end of private insurance. If that's what you want, go ahead and break out the Champagne.

Now we realize that our health system was broken and unsustainable. Guess what. It still is. I guess you can take some satisfaction, that my business, will be destroyed, that my employees will be unemployed, and that will be repeated in the health insurance industry many thousands of times. Unfortunately, healthcare reform will not fix the problems that it is supposed to. In fact it makes them worse. So go ahead and celebrate, dance and piss on our graves. In the end you will have gained nothing.

BigBooper: ghare: BigBooper: ....I own a health insurance agency, and believe that if health care reform is implemented as written, my business will fail....

Why not do some actual research, instead of just "believing" things? Oh wait, you're a business owner (I don't believe it for a second)! Everything should stay the way it is, and we should guarantee your business makes a profit!

Ok, Time for my "I'm getting a kick" moment

I'm an insurance broker and I own a small agency, and I'm also on a state legislative board of the largest health insurance industry lobbying group in the country. We try to influence what legislation is passed, and how passed legislation is implemented. Yes, we represent the interests of insurance agents, brokers, and companies. So we've obviously looked at, and have been planning for the implementation of the affordable care act since it was passed. I've talked and worked with this law with everyone from the agents who sell health insurance, to labor attorneys, to the presidents of the health insurance companies that operate in Wisconsin. So yes, I've done a fair bit of research. We're all scared shiatless, we are witnessing the beginning of the end of private insurance. If that's what you want, go ahead and break out the Champagne.

Now we realize that our health system was broken and unsustainable. Guess what. It still is. I guess you can take some satisfaction, that my business, will be destroyed, that my employees will be unemployed, and that will be repeated in the health insurance industry many thousands of times. Unfortunately, healthcare reform will not fix the problems that it is supposed to. In fact it makes them worse. So go ahead and celebrate, dance and piss on our graves. In the end you will have gained nothing.

Ahh, you're a useless middleman who makes my insurance cost more. Well, I feel just as sorry for you and your employees as I do for the guys who used to build computers before Dell, buggy whip manufacturers, Amalgamated Spats, Confederated Slave Holdings, IT guys whose jobs have gone to India, the guys whose jobs Romney shipped to China, and everyone else who has gone out of business or lost a job.

You're just afraid of the changes. Welcome to the 21st century.

What I do as a broker is help businesses and individuals navigate a broken health care system. I educate people; I help them decide what plan is best for them. I also spend a lot of my time fighting with insurance companies to get claims paid. Instead of them trying to figure out why a claim wasn't paid, I do it for them. And if that claim should have been paid, I make damn sure it is paid. Unfortunately I've also been spending a lot of time in the past couple years helping people find health insurance, or government programs when they get laid off; most of the time I get paid nothing for this. Recently I spent the better part of a day getting coverage for a sick infant. The state wouldn't cover the child without financial information about a father that had moved out of state and wanted nothing to do with the kid. If you think insurance companies are hard to deal with, wait till you get the joy of working with the government.
I look at myself like an accountant. I don't have to agree with the system to try to help people navigate it. In fact I agree whole heartedly that our health care and health insurance system is in dire need of reform.
As for what I make, well as a percentage of your health care, my share has been shrinking for years. For every dollar you pay in health insurance, agents make on average about three cents.
What I'd like to see is an option for you to buy your insurance with or without me. If you chose to save the money and you want to do it yourself, feel free to go direct and save the money. However, if you want someone to help guide you, and help you deal with the insurance companies, than you can choose to buy your insurance through me.
As it stands, you don't have that choice. It's like being told that you have to do your own taxes; that you can't use an accountant.

In case you guys are wondering - 4chan was down for maintenance last night.
Always seems to coincide with a troll infestation here.........hmmm.

BigBooper: In the end you will have gained nothing.

It's telling that you consider making coverage available to people who currently can't afford it or have pre-existing conditions to be "nothing gained". It's even more telling that it comes after a plea for compassion... for you.

And sitting VP Dick Cheney, while on the Senate floor and with live mics, told Patrick Leahy, "Go f**k yourself."

Classy.

Even classier: When asked later about it by Dennis Miller, Cheney took the opportunity to make amends...no, of course not; "You'd be surprised how many people liked that," he told Miller. "It's sort of the best thing I ever did." (It's at this link, or at least it will be if the Fark filter doesn't mess up the URL...)

The Why Not Guy: BigBooper: In the end you will have gained nothing.

It's telling that you consider making coverage available to people who currently can't afford it or have pre-existing conditions to be "nothing gained". It's even more telling that it comes after a plea for compassion... for you.

The end that I talk about is the long run. Sure we cover many more people. And that's great. But how do we pay for that? When far more employers than estimated dump their employee into the exchanges, how do we pay for that? Remember, most people will get subsidies. And business with under fifty employees pay no penalty for ending their health insurance. And for larger employers, the penalty for not providing health insurance is far less than the cost. My largest client will pay two million for health insurance this year. If they dropped their insurance, the "tax" would be $250,000. The employees will be able to go through the exchange, and with the subsidies, most will pay less than they are paying now to get their insurance through the employer. WTF do you think they're going to do?
The penalty tax for an individual who doesn't buy insurance is FAR less than the cost of insurance. Remember, there is no waiting period, there is no pre-existing condition limitations, and you can't be charged more for being sick. If the government doesn't pay for your insurance, why the fark would you buy it when your healthy?

So. Do you really think this system is going to work for long? Are you delusional enough to think that the affordable care act is actually affordable? HELL NO! The whole damn thing will come crashing down. And THAT'S what I mean by in the end you will have gained nothing.

It's like taking a car with a bad transmission and onto the highway, and throwing it into reverse when you hit 88 miles an hour. It's not exactly going to fix things.

Bontesla: Sensei Can You See: what_now: a bunch of cocktards who celebrated when the United States lost the chance to host the Olympics

As one of those aforementioned cocktards, let me just say that A. I thought it was silly of the president to go beg for his country to host the Olympics, B. I don't really care where they hold the Olympics, and C. I was, however, impressed that Obama told the crowd to stop booing at Romney.

Like I said, there's no reason a politician can't show some class.

Are you kidding me?

Let the Democrats - and those in need of health care - have some freakin' glory. Do you know what it's like for Democrats lately? Have you seen the news? They're trapped in a country with INSANE people. Pants-on-head-insane. Let them gloat!

THIS.

Look at all the shiat talk and downright lies regarding the Affordable Care Act made by the opposition. Totally crude and tasteless. They deserve to have the ball spiked in their face on this one. Besides, Patrick Gaspard is not a politician in an elected office. He is an executive in a political organization and he represents no district or percentage of the populace. Plus he was just exercising his first amendment rights, at least that is how the opposition justifies their classlessness. To quote Mitt Romney: "What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander."

Look at the bright side, he didn't accuse anyone of being Nazis. That in itself is an improvement.

what_now: Sensei Can You See: A. I thought it was silly of the president to go beg for his country to host the Olympics

...why? Every single nation on earth considers it an honor. It raises a LOT of money.

Why, exactly, would you be opposed to it?


Ya sure about that?

I'm an Egyptian!: Free market. Best be grabbing onto your bootstraps.

I'm not sure it can be considered a free market issue if your industry is nationalized.

But nice try anyways.

BigBooper: I'm not sure it can be considered a free market issue if your industry is nationalized.

I didn't think there were still people who believe the ACA nationalized the health insurance industry...

baka-san: F*CK YOU IN YOUR HOMOPHOBIC RACIST THEOCRACY LOVING ASSES,

Love,
Baka-San

Yo, Baka-San, nice troll. However plenty of Christians and other believers voted for Obama and backed him on this issue. The United States finally catches up to the rest of the world.

Kurmudgeon: The United States finally catches up to the rest of the world.

Hardly. Affordable insurance is still coupled to employment, and the insurance industry has never had a tighter grip on our balls.

GoldSpider: BigBooper: I'm not sure it can be considered a free market issue if your industry is nationalized.

I didn't think there were still people who believe the ACA nationalized the health insurance industry...

Not news: yet another farkwit complaining about ACA actually had no idea what's in it.

BigBooper: What I do as a broker is help businesses and individuals navigate a broken health care system. I educate people; I help them decide what plan is best for them. I also spend a lot of my time fighting with insurance companies to get claims paid. Instead of them trying to figure out why a claim wasn't paid, I do it for them. And if that claim should have been paid, I make damn sure it is paid. Unfortunately I've also been spending a lot of time in the past couple years helping people find health insurance, or government programs when they get laid off; most of the time I get paid nothing for this. Recently I spent the better part of a day getting coverage for a sick infant. The state wouldn't cover the child without financial information about a father that had moved out of state and wanted nothing to do with the kid. If you think insurance companies are hard to deal with, wait till you get the joy of working with the government.
I look at myself like an accountant. I don't have to agree with the system to try to help people navigate it. In fact I agree whole heartedly that our health care and health insurance system is in dire need of reform.
As for what I make, well as a percentage of your health care, my share has been shrinking for years. For every dollar you pay in health insurance, agents make on average about three cents.
What I'd like to see is an option for you to buy your insurance with or without me. If you chose to save the money and you want to do it yourself, feel free to go direct and save the money. However, if you want someone to help guide you, and help you deal with the insurance companies, than you can choose to buy your insurance through me.
As it stands, you don't have that choice. It's like being told that you have to do your own taxes; that you can't use an accountant.

I don't care about technology advancing, The government must stop computers and word processing programs from coming to the market, just think what this will do to my typewriter business!

BigBooper: Now we realize that our health system was broken and unsustainable. Guess what. It still is. I guess you can take some satisfaction, that my business, will be destroyed, that my employees will be unemployed, and that will be repeated in the health insurance industry many thousands of times. Unfortunately, healthcare reform will not fix the problems that it is supposed to. In fact it makes them worse. So go ahead and celebrate, dance and piss on our graves. In the end you will have gained nothing.

So what have you and your fellow members of the industry done to trry and fix your industry? What have you done to try and increase coverage for the poor and those with pre-exiting conditions? What have you done to lower costs and provide better car for your customers? Do you even consider those issues , or is your own bottom line the only thing you care about?

How many millions of AmeriCcans without access to quality healthcare must we accept to save your precious business?

What pre-mature spiking of the football may look like:

Link

Hooray! Millions of Americans and their children no longer have healthcare! Let me do my happy dance! Wait, it didn't get overturned? I sure hope nobody had a cell phone with a camera turned on!

Kome: ... I would have called a press conference just to say "Hey, Republicans, go f*ck yourselves for trying so hard to get this important legislation overturned. Go f*ck yourselves for lying, from day goddamn one, about anything and everything in it from death panels to broccoli. Today you lost, because you're f*cking losers who don't have the slightest clue about either what's right for this country or what's legal according to our Constitution. Director of the DNC, out!"

And I lean conservative.

I would send a crisp, new 20 dollar bill to the DCCC immediately if that happened. And I suspect I would not be alone.

BigBooper: We're all scared shiatless, we are witnessing the beginning of the end of private insurance. If that's what you want, go ahead and break out the Champagne.

Private health insurers manage to turn a profit under Medicare/Medicaid in the US, and under single-payer/national/universal public health insurance in other countries, so it seems unlikely that Obamacare will end them.

/sounds like greater penalties for lack of coverage would address most of your concerns

thisispete: Atlanta brought computerized graphics and videos and a delegation of 300 people as part of its $7 million drive, perhaps the most elaborate and expensive bid in history. Also shown to the Olympic committee this morning was a special appeal for support by President Bush.

Why are you bringing up facts to confuse the issue? Besides that was TOTALLY different plus B-B-B-Bush!