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2012-06-28 04:21:09 PM
I'm having fun listening to Hannity have a melt down. The fear mongering is bat crazy.
 
2012-06-28 04:22:00 PM

Coco LaFemme: The_Sponge: Coco LaFemme: These assholes don't care that they're wrong.


On the rag today, are we?

Actually no, I'm not. I do appreciate you taking the time to inquire as to the state of my menstrual cycle, though. It shows you care. What a peach.



Rwa2play: I didn't see anyone calling YOU an asshole; she was referring to tea party types.

So, by you feeling insulted by Coco, are you admitting that you side with said tea party types?



I doubt that, because she was referencing somebody's response to one of my posts. If she was not referring to me, then I will apologize and take back what I said.
 
2012-06-28 04:22:03 PM

xanadian: Yes, he did, but that's not what I meant. I'm glad Obama got this victory. I'm just bemoaning the spin it could produce. ........ In hindsight, though, Obama could personally cure cancer and give everyone a pony and the GOP would find a way to give it a negative spin.

:-/


Of course they would. Nothing matters to them anymore except the complete and utter destruction of their perceived Antichrist. The GOP would sooner sacrifice America than allow Obama to do ANYTHING unopposed. Anything he does is the Devil's work in their eyes, and they've vowed to resist him at every turn, no matter what it is or the consequences of their bullheaded opposition.
 
2012-06-28 04:22:32 PM

xanadian: Obama could personally cure cancer and give everyone a pony and the GOP would find a way to give it a negative spin.


The streets will be filled with manure!!!

/sorry... not very good at channeling the impotent rage of Republicans.
 
2012-06-28 04:22:45 PM
 
2012-06-28 04:24:04 PM

NateGrey: Teabaggers want to protest but they are all on Disability. NO JOKE


Hah! Irony, they haz it.
 
2012-06-28 04:24:42 PM

CPennypacker: mr lawson: CPennypacker: Please tell me how this law increases the demand for healthcare

err...more people covered will result in more people seeking treatment they would not have sought be for?

/is this a trick question?

People get treatment. Them being covered just means they get preventative and early treatment, lowering costs and easing the burden on hospitals and emergency workers.


Citation needed. How does having a card in your wallet make you to visit the doctor?
 
2012-06-28 04:26:06 PM
Lop a couple hundred billion per year off the defense budget and I may be OK with it.

/Probably not.
 
2012-06-28 04:26:12 PM
Obamacare isn't perfect, but it's a hell of a lot better than the alternative being offered by the Republicans.

Here's a car analogy: Suppose your old car is on its last legs, and you need to buy new one. So, you shop around for a while, and you decide on a five year old minivan with about 80,000 miles on the clock. It's not great, but it's safe and reliable. But your teenage son hates the minivan. He hates it so much that he's worked himself into an irrational rage, and one day he decides to go out to the garage and set the minivan on fire, in a fit of adolescent spite and stupidity. But John Roberts is driving by and puts out the fire last minute, and takes your son's matches away too. So now your teenage son is livid, and holds a press conference where he says that the day he turns 18 he's going to buy some more matches and burn that damned minivan and the garage it's in down to the ground, and then he's going to buy a newer more awesome car with all the money he makes at his part time job at gamestop.

And nearly half of America supports your son, because they hate the minivan too, and they would rather walk than ride around in a car driven by a black person.
 
2012-06-28 04:26:53 PM

L82DPRT: Lop a couple hundred billion per year off the defense budget and I may be OK with it.

/Probably not.


Hey, I'm all for that.
 
2012-06-28 04:26:59 PM
So the question is, is it a tax or is it not a tax?

/seriously, I cannot find one unbiased source about this.
 
2012-06-28 04:27:42 PM

Keizer_Ghidorah: xanadian: Yes, he did, but that's not what I meant. I'm glad Obama got this victory. I'm just bemoaning the spin it could produce. ........ In hindsight, though, Obama could personally cure cancer and give everyone a pony and the GOP would find a way to give it a negative spin.

:-/

Of course they would. Nothing matters to them anymore except the complete and utter destruction of their perceived Antichrist. The GOP would sooner sacrifice America than allow Obama to do ANYTHING unopposed. Anything he does is the Devil's work in their eyes, and they've vowed to resist him at every turn, no matter what it is or the consequences of their bullheaded opposition.


And, as has been stated before, this plan they're bemoaning as The End of All Things America was conceived by the conservative think tank The Heritage Foundation and is pretty damn close to RomneyCare in Mass. I love how those little tidbits of information seem to be completely lost on Fox News and Wing Nut Daily. But, since Obama enacted it, it's clearly now evil.

WE WERE FOR THIS BEFORE WE WERE AGAINST IT!

Doesn't seem to be the most effective election year rallying cry, I guess.
 
2012-06-28 04:29:03 PM
For those of you just joining the thread:

EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE IS RUINED! FOREVER!!!
 
2012-06-28 04:29:13 PM

The Larch: Obamacare isn't perfect, but it's a hell of a lot better than the alternative being offered by the Republicans.

Here's a car analogy: Suppose your old car is on its last legs, and you need to buy new one. So, you shop around for a while, and you decide on a five year old minivan with about 80,000 miles on the clock. It's not great, but it's safe and reliable. But your teenage son hates the minivan. He hates it so much that he's worked himself into an irrational rage, and one day he decides to go out to the garage and set the minivan on fire, in a fit of adolescent spite and stupidity. But John Roberts is driving by and puts out the fire last minute, and takes your son's matches away too. So now your teenage son is livid, and holds a press conference where he says that the day he turns 18 he's going to buy some more matches and burn that damned minivan and the garage it's in down to the ground, and then he's going to buy a newer more awesome car with all the money he makes at his part time job at gamestop.

And nearly half of America supports your son, because they hate the minivan too, and they would rather walk than ride around in a car driven by a black person.


I'd be perfectly okay with having a chauffeur!

/I may have missed your point.
 
2012-06-28 04:29:34 PM

Khellendros: Clearly. To argue against CBO studies, he's pointing to Heritage Foundation analysts and Fox new shills for "facts". That's the level we're dealing with here.


Heh, so I'm guessing he's against CBO studies before he's for them...or somethin'
 
2012-06-28 04:29:39 PM

The Larch: And nearly half of America supports your son, because they hate the minivan too, and they would rather walk than ride around in a car driven by a black person.



Black person? Fine. Asian? OH HELL NO!!!!
 
2012-06-28 04:29:44 PM

NateGrey: Teabaggers want to protest but they are all on Disability. NO JOKE


Republican strategy in a nutshell:
"Until this thing is fully and 100% repealed, I say we do all that we can to bankrupt our own Government"
 
2012-06-28 04:30:23 PM

Dog Welder: And, as has been stated before, this plan they're bemoaning as The End of All Things America was conceived by the conservative think tank The Heritage Foundation and is pretty damn close to RomneyCare in Mass. I love how those little tidbits of information seem to be completely lost on Fox News and Wing Nut Daily. But, since Obama enacted it, it's clearly now evil.

WE WERE FOR THIS BEFORE WE WERE AGAINST IT!

Doesn't seem to be the most effective election year rallying cry, I guess.



Cognitive. Dissonance.
 
2012-06-28 04:31:27 PM

Khellendros: L82DPRT: Khellendros: Try again.

ok

Link

Cost estimates have doubled. Looks like we will have hard enough time meeting past obligations but yeah lets add a bunch more people to the welfare rolls.

What IS the penalty for not buying insurance? Serious.

The penalty for a small business dumping it's employees that it currently pays coverage for? Serious.

Let's do this again - after you link to a Sally Pipes article (avowed conservative shill), you then link to a Peter Ferarra article, as if that does better? Ferarra, a libertarian who works for a conservative think-tank (Heritage Foundation) whose early career publishing helped found the CATO institute, is your less biased source than the CBO? A guy who pushes the complete privatization of social security is going to give a fair shake to the Affordable Care Act? Again, are you farking high?

Try again. And this time, LOOK AND STUDY who is writing the article you're linking to. Find something that isn't blatantly partisan.


Are you arguing Obamacare bends the cost curve down and the initial cost claims were accurate?
 
2012-06-28 04:31:41 PM

Mrtraveler01: oh_please: Mrtraveler01: You know, this talking point really bothers me.

People are upset that since more people will be covered, people will have to wait longer for treatment.

So does that mean these same folks were ok with the private sector rationing care based on cost and perfectly fine if the people who couldn't afford treatment whitered off and died?

What kind of sick farks do we have in this country anyway?


Gosh, you must have forgotten to highlight what I said in the rest of my post, about how we need to do something about the current situation, and this decision certainly isn't the end of the world.

It wasn't directed at you.

it was just something I've noticed on Fox News and throughout different comment sections.

You just reminded me of how selfish and stupid that talking point sounded. It wasn't directed solely at you.


So you just took the part of my post that was relevant to what YOU wanted to talk about, and was ripe for a scathing response?

"I know, I'll take this little piece of what this guy said, and then I'll stand up for TRUTH AND JUSTICE!"
 
2012-06-28 04:31:45 PM

make me some tea: NateGrey: Teabaggers want to protest but they are all on Disability. NO JOKE

Republican strategy in a nutshell:
"Until this thing is fully and 100% repealed, I say we do all that we can to bankrupt our own Government"


IOW, trying to hold our economy hostage until they get what they want.

Is it okay to call them terrorists now?
 
2012-06-28 04:32:36 PM

WTF Indeed: This is just further evidence of the Obama Junta. Chief Justice Roberts is a member of the secret society of government officials hell bent on turning America into an effective nation.


How do you think a Senator born in Kenya could have become President when a Republican was in office. They're all in on it!

And they spit in your food when you're not looking.
 
2012-06-28 04:32:42 PM
I'm more outraged about this:

fark.upi.com

Where's the girl with the flag tattoo? She was cute, and quite fapable.
 
2012-06-28 04:34:01 PM

The Larch: Obamacare isn't perfect, but it's a hell of a lot better than the alternative being offered by the Republicans.

Here's a car analogy: Suppose your old car is on its last legs, and you need to buy new one. So, you shop around for a while, and you decide on a five year old minivan with about 80,000 miles on the clock. It's not great, but it's safe and reliable. But your teenage son hates the minivan. He hates it so much that he's worked himself into an irrational rage, and one day he decides to go out to the garage and set the minivan on fire, in a fit of adolescent spite and stupidity. But John Roberts is driving by and puts out the fire last minute, and takes your son's matches away too. So now your teenage son is livid, and holds a press conference where he says that the day he turns 18 he's going to buy some more matches and burn that damned minivan and the garage it's in down to the ground, and then he's going to buy a newer more awesome car with all the money he makes at his part time job at gamestop.

And nearly half of America supports your son, because they hate the minivan too, and they would rather walk than ride around in a car driven by a black person.


I really hope this doesn't get lost in the other comments. Gold, Jerry, gold!
 
2012-06-28 04:34:05 PM

pwhp_67

Gdalescrboz: pwhp_67

frank249: We here in Canada have Universal health care paid for by our taxes. The US has private health insurance that is paid for by a tax but not evreyone is covered. Maybe someday the US will just have Medicaid for everyone.


It's getting really hard for us to evolve as a country with so many on the right being stuck in the past and trying to hold the rest of us back...


It's actually you clowns that are holding us back. We are the ones having to cater to the lowest common denominator. Good try though


Sure. Your party wants to rewrite the Constitution, destroy and dismantle public education, remove science from the classroom, tell us who can marry and who can't, wage wars against personal freedoms, destroy health care, all while sucking off the top 1% and you're not holding the country back...


Aside from being sucked off, none of those trivial squables matter to me
 
2012-06-28 04:35:16 PM
1.bp.blogspot.com



Why does Justice Roberts like Hitler?
 
2012-06-28 04:35:16 PM
WombatControl 2012-06-28 11:15:09 AM

(farky'd as: third hand info I can't verify 7049921, 7029959, 7046305)

If the statists got their way and we magically had an NHS-style system in the United States there would be riots in the streets because Americans do not take kindly to the government dictating to them what they can and cannot have. At least those Americans who still believe in the spirit of this nation's Founding, anyway.

adds thread number 7186607 to WC's farky.

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mrshowrules 2012-06-28 04:17:10 PM

Kittypie070: Dance, cat, dance!

In fairness, the GOP came up with the idea as a way of punishing poor people. Now that it looks like it might help more people then it hurts, they feel like they've been duped.


What the hell!? AGAIN!!??

I need to read that PDF I picked up from the Heritage Foundation a LOT harder. Thanks for the heads-up.
 
2012-06-28 04:37:12 PM

oh_please: Mrtraveler01: oh_please: Mrtraveler01: You know, this talking point really bothers me.

People are upset that since more people will be covered, people will have to wait longer for treatment.

So does that mean these same folks were ok with the private sector rationing care based on cost and perfectly fine if the people who couldn't afford treatment whitered off and died?

What kind of sick farks do we have in this country anyway?


Gosh, you must have forgotten to highlight what I said in the rest of my post, about how we need to do something about the current situation, and this decision certainly isn't the end of the world.

It wasn't directed at you.

it was just something I've noticed on Fox News and throughout different comment sections.

You just reminded me of how selfish and stupid that talking point sounded. It wasn't directed solely at you.

So you just took the part of my post that was relevant to what YOU wanted to talk about, and was ripe for a scathing response?

"I know, I'll take this little piece of what this guy said, and then I'll stand up for TRUTH AND JUSTICE!"


I apologize if I'm having trouble keeping up; that's always a trouble in a thread like this. But it seems to be your position that we need to "do something." A similar and similarly practical philosophy was espoused by this gentleman:

i794.photobucket.com

thepennilessfoodie.files.wordpress.com

www.justpressplay.net
 
2012-06-28 04:38:49 PM

flamingboar: I'm having fun listening to Hannity have a melt down. The fear mongering is bat crazy.


Tucker Carlson on Hannity's show compared Obama to Khmer Rouge because elementary kids sang a song about Obama being President. They shiat there pants over stuff that doesn't even matter, it is not surprising that they are actually having psychotic episodes over something actually relevant.
 
2012-06-28 04:39:50 PM

Gdalescrboz: pwhp_67

Gdalescrboz: pwhp_67

frank249: We here in Canada have Universal health care paid for by our taxes. The US has private health insurance that is paid for by a tax but not evreyone is covered. Maybe someday the US will just have Medicaid for everyone.


It's getting really hard for us to evolve as a country with so many on the right being stuck in the past and trying to hold the rest of us back...


It's actually you clowns that are holding us back. We are the ones having to cater to the lowest common denominator. Good try though


Sure. Your party wants to rewrite the Constitution, destroy and dismantle public education, remove science from the classroom, tell us who can marry and who can't, wage wars against personal freedoms, destroy health care, all while sucking off the top 1% and you're not holding the country back...


Aside from being sucked off, none of those trivial squables matter to me



It shows and hopefully that scares the shiat out of other people in this thread...
 
2012-06-28 04:40:03 PM

Callous: Citation needed. How does having a card in your wallet make you to visit the doctor?


Or not go to the emergency room for non-emergency needs? It took a while, but I finally convinced my father in law that it was beneficial to him in time, money, and care to go to urgent care rather than the emergency room unless he needs an ambulance. Schedule a doctors visit? Him? Ha.
 
2012-06-28 04:40:06 PM
Every time I see some blowhard on the internet barf out whatever Rush and Faux news tells him to barf out I have to remember victories like this. We are winning more battles than we are losing. Overall the country is headed in the right direction. Hopefully in the next 4 years we can get a handle on the corporate hijacking of politicians and do something about the brain dead guppies that believe anything their elected officials tell them.

/not a Dem
 
2012-06-28 04:40:51 PM

L82DPRT: Khellendros: L82DPRT: Khellendros: Try again.

ok

Link

Cost estimates have doubled. Looks like we will have hard enough time meeting past obligations but yeah lets add a bunch more people to the welfare rolls.

What IS the penalty for not buying insurance? Serious.

The penalty for a small business dumping it's employees that it currently pays coverage for? Serious.

Let's do this again - after you link to a Sally Pipes article (avowed conservative shill), you then link to a Peter Ferarra article, as if that does better? Ferarra, a libertarian who works for a conservative think-tank (Heritage Foundation) whose early career publishing helped found the CATO institute, is your less biased source than the CBO? A guy who pushes the complete privatization of social security is going to give a fair shake to the Affordable Care Act? Again, are you farking high?

Try again. And this time, LOOK AND STUDY who is writing the article you're linking to. Find something that isn't blatantly partisan.

Are you arguing Obamacare bends the cost curve down and the initial cost claims were accurate?


No. Read my posts. Think about them, then respond.

I am arguing that your presented "statistics" and figures on the alleged exploding cost of the ACA come from conservative think-tank employees with clear agendas and a history of blatantly lying to the public to further their own political ends. The CBO - acknowledged as the authority with a demonstrated history of clear, concise, and correct impact projections - say that these blowhard's figures are complete and total bullshiat. Yet, you continue to use them to demonstrate your unfounded accusations.

You have been completely unable or unwilling to provide a SINGLE non-partisan source backing up your claims. You made a claim that costs will spiral out of control. The CBO says that's not true. Your sources suck eggs, and everyone knows it.

So, once more - try again. And find something that didn't come from Glen Beck's file cabinet.
 
2012-06-28 04:41:04 PM

Snarfangel: quizzical: Smeggy Smurf: 3 of the 4 boxes have failed. Time to break out the 4th box. Good thing I've been teaching the boys how to do it as well.

Awww, what's in the 4th box?

Come on, everyone's heard of the Four Boxes of the Apocalypse.


hehehehe ok you gave me a giggle. It's really about the "four boxes of Liberty" The Soap box, the ballot box, the jury box and the ammo box. A favorite saying amongst the Birchers.

Although the saying does apply to those of a more left-leaning bent as well.
 
2012-06-28 04:42:23 PM

mrshowrules: flamingboar: I'm having fun listening to Hannity have a melt down. The fear mongering is bat crazy.

Tucker Carlson on Hannity's show compared Obama to Khmer Rouge because elementary kids sang a song about Obama being President. They shiat there pants over stuff that doesn't even matter, it is not surprising that they are actually having psychotic episodes over something actually relevant.


This is...insanely awesome.
 
2012-06-28 04:43:21 PM

Dog Welder: Keizer_Ghidorah: xanadian: Yes, he did, but that's not what I meant. I'm glad Obama got this victory. I'm just bemoaning the spin it could produce. ........ In hindsight, though, Obama could personally cure cancer and give everyone a pony and the GOP would find a way to give it a negative spin.

:-/

Of course they would. Nothing matters to them anymore except the complete and utter destruction of their perceived Antichrist. The GOP would sooner sacrifice America than allow Obama to do ANYTHING unopposed. Anything he does is the Devil's work in their eyes, and they've vowed to resist him at every turn, no matter what it is or the consequences of their bullheaded opposition.

And, as has been stated before, this plan they're bemoaning as The End of All Things America was conceived by the conservative think tank The Heritage Foundation and is pretty damn close to RomneyCare in Mass. I love how those little tidbits of information seem to be completely lost on Fox News and Wing Nut Daily. But, since Obama enacted it, it's clearly now evil.

WE WERE FOR THIS BEFORE WE WERE AGAINST IT!

Doesn't seem to be the most effective election year rallying cry, I guess.


They'll do anything, even flat-out lying and aggressive flip-flopping. This is deliberate misinformation meant to get people riled up against their sworn foe, and the sad thing is many people will go along with it because they're either too dumb to notice, too brainwashed to resist, or too agreeing with them to detect it.
 
2012-06-28 04:44:13 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: John Roberts siding with the left wing of the court... MY GOD! THE MAYANS WERE RIGHT!


lawl
 
2012-06-28 04:45:36 PM

chiett: It WILL be repealed.



It's just a matter of time.


LOL
never going to happen
Repeal will require both house and senate pass a bill, reconcile and then a president sign the bill into law.

NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN

and the longer the law is in effect, the more people will have benefits from said law.

NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN
 
2012-06-28 04:46:04 PM

Rapmaster2000: TIKIMAN87: Obama has just destroyed this country.

The country was already pretty messed up. That's why I always throw my cigarette butts out the window.


You know, you really are an asshole?


/better not be be obscure
//if it is, that's ok, because WE GOT THE BOMBS :P
 
2012-06-28 04:46:12 PM

xanadian: Depends on how the GOP spins it. I'm sure there was a reason Roberts made it plain in his decision that the mandate IS A TAX. He essentially is telling the Republican party, "Go ahead and paint the Democrats as tax-raising, middle-class hating baby killers" or something like it.

Only time will tell if they DO spin it that way (I think it's a sure thing), and if it has any impact


Or Roberts could have just ruled against it if his intent was to screw Democrats.

Seriously, there's no deep play at work here with Roberts making his decision to trap Democrats.

If there is, it's an entirely stupid one. If the 'ZOMG it's a tax increase' line of thinking was all that, we'd have been hearing about it since Obama put pen to paper and signed the bill into law. The fact the GOP is seizing on this language like a drowning person gasping for air now is all you need to see to know this argument isn't going anywhere with voters.
 
2012-06-28 04:47:53 PM

Khellendros: Are you arguing Obamacare bends the cost curve down and the initial cost claims were accurate?

No.


You should have stopped right there.
 
2012-06-28 04:48:03 PM
i36.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-28 04:49:13 PM

flamingboar: So the question is, is it a tax or is it not a tax?

/seriously, I cannot find one unbiased source about this.


It's not a tax. Roberts's opinion was based that Obamacare was constitutional under the articles of taxation. It is not a tax in sensu strictu.

A good example can be found on your 1040. Look at Schedule A (Itemized deductions). If you choose to rent property, you are penalized by not having mortgage interest on your Schedule A. If you choose not to give to charity, you can't put it on your Schedule A. If you choose to be married and not have kids (Like myself), guess what? I don't get my Additional Child Tax Credit or my Earned Income Credit.

So basically, if you are already insured, guess what? You're not getting taxed. If you are a arsehat that uses an emergency room as a doctor's office and you choose to not buy insurance, you pay a tax. It's that simple. This is why the Heritage foundation and 1990's conservatives loved the mandate- it stressed personal responsibility over all. Something that modern Republicans have absolutely no concept of (Right Bloomberg? Right Scott Walker?).

/I am not a Liberal. I became Liberal when ultraconservative hacks started pushing my Republican so far out to the right that my own party left me behind.
 
2012-06-28 04:49:27 PM
www.catholicvote.org
 
2012-06-28 04:49:34 PM

L82DPRT: Khellendros: Are you arguing Obamacare bends the cost curve down and the initial cost claims were accurate?

No.

You should have stopped right there.


Must be hard living you life of fear and paranoia.
 
2012-06-28 04:50:15 PM

bhcompy: Lord Dimwit: I know tons of self-labeled libertarians. Why is economic freedom so much more important that social freedom? My libertarian friends talk about how they vote Republican because the Republicans want "freedom" - but what they mean is "economic freedom". The Republican Party doesn't want freedom of reproductive choice, freedom of religious choice, or freedom of marriage. If you vote for a Republican, you are implicitly saying that money-related "freedom" is more important than your freedom to do as you please with your own body or in your own bedroom. That's fine if you believe that, but own up to it.

Because you vote for what gets you closest to your favored result? Are you completely unfamiliar with with the concept of representative democracy and how it is instituted in America?


But isn't that restating the proposition that you're deciding that economic freedoms over social freedoms are closer to your favored result than the converse?
 
2012-06-28 04:50:19 PM

jst3p: Am I a bad person because, in my opinion, the best part about this is the fact that I can use it to stir up the Right Wing nutjobs in the cubes near me? Today is going to be fun.


Yeah, my boss was over crying about it a while ago.
 
2012-06-28 04:51:03 PM

SithLord: [i36.photobucket.com image 577x588]


How has he made America into a dictatorship?

JDAT: [www.catholicvote.org image 640x425]


How is helping your fellow men destroying the Constitution?
 
2012-06-28 04:52:03 PM

Wessoman: flamingboar: So the question is, is it a tax or is it not a tax?

/seriously, I cannot find one unbiased source about this.

It's not a tax. Roberts's opinion was based that Obamacare was constitutional under the articles of taxation. It is not a tax in sensu strictu.

A good example can be found on your 1040. Look at Schedule A (Itemized deductions). If you choose to rent property, you are penalized by not having mortgage interest on your Schedule A. If you choose not to give to charity, you can't put it on your Schedule A. If you choose to be married and not have kids (Like myself), guess what? I don't get my Additional Child Tax Credit or my Earned Income Credit.

So basically, if you are already insured, guess what? You're not getting taxed. If you are a arsehat that uses an emergency room as a doctor's office and you choose to not buy insurance, you pay a tax. It's that simple. This is why the Heritage foundation and 1990's conservatives loved the mandate- it stressed personal responsibility over all. Something that modern Republicans have absolutely no concept of (Right Bloomberg? Right Scott Walker?).

/I am not a Liberal. I became Liberal when ultraconservative hacks started pushing my Republican so far out to the right that my own party left me behind.


Thanks! My brain is fried from classes and the heat.
 
2012-06-28 04:52:19 PM

Keizer_Ghidorah: How has he made America into a dictatorship?


Isn't it obvious? A country where a law can be passed by Congress, signed by the President, reviewed by the courts, and eventually upheld by the Supreme Court is clearly a dictatorship.
 
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