Grables'Daughter: lousyskater: I didn't really care which way this went, but man I need to get some popcorn for this one. DIS GONNA BE GOOD.[i1089.photobucket.com image 640x423]Here.I made enough for everyone.: )
Publikwerks: Where to I go to sign up to be on a death panel? I really want to start killing people immediately. Especially old ones who love America and work hard for a living.
Weaver95: Limbaugh: we're forced to pay a tax, insurance is now a tax, we're forced, we're forced. forcing is bad, bad, wrong, bad, wrong. tax tax tax. corporations taxing us...backing off that point, stealth tax. behavior modification, tax tax tax. government dictating what we do with private property, tax tax tax.
mrshowrules: I've been arguing for years that single-payer is one of the best things the US could do to help small businesses.
stvdallas: You know who wins with this decision?Illegal aliens who don't pay taxes.
Stoker: [img836.imageshack.us image 500x510]
Richard Saunders: I cannot tell you saddened I am by this.
Grungehamster: I don't get how the Medicaid thing works; how is it that increasing the funding for a program for the states while also increasing the requirements for the states to qualify for the program is illegal unless you still give the states the previous level of funding if they comply with the previous requirements? The government changes the amount the states must match all the time for states, and it's always been they either accept the new rules or forgo federal funding for Medicaid (correct me if I'm wrong). Now that they are saying "we're increasing funding so you will have to pay more to match it" the Court has decided states can determine what amount they are willing to pay and the federal government must adjust funding to match what the state offers instead of saying that they aren't meeting the requirements? Were they just talking about the language in the bill itself or is this an overarching principle that might be applied elsewhere?
The_Sponge: Anti_illuminati: Still spewing horsesh:t, huh? How about addressing some issues others have pointed out with your ridiculous logic first?Really? It's horseshiat to point out that Obama promised not to raise your taxes if you made under $250K per year?
SphericalTime: Roberts decided he didn't want to be a joke for the rest of his life, apparently.
NeoCortex42: Obama: "The mandate has had support from both sides, including Mitt Romney."Nice.
justtray: What's the countdown before the outrage that we shouldn't call it Obamacare anymore now that it is constitutional? I doubt we go a week before the Right Wing hypocrisy comes full circle and starts complaining about how it shouldn't be called that.
jst3p: Am I a bad person because, in my opinion, the best part about this is the fact that I can use it to stir up the Right Wing nutjobs in the cubes near me? Today is going to be fun.
Serious Black: Aetna's stock is down 4.3% today. WellPoint's stock is down 6.45% today. UnitedHealth's stock is down 3% today. You think they're happy about the ruling?
Actor_au: The final bill for his time there would have been in the tens of thousands if we were in the US.
HeartBurnKid: Sid_the_sadist: I'm going to quit my job and go on welfare now. fark you guys, you pay for my shiat from now on. Including my healthcare.If that's what you want, go right ahead. I think you'll find that it's not the wine and roses you think.
NowhereMon: LOL free republic is melting down
dameron: SphericalTime: Roberts decided he didn't want to be a joke for the rest of his life, apparently.Exactly. It's the "Robert's court" after all. He didn't want to go down in history as the guy who oversaw the grotesque, transparent politicization of the court.
Benjimin_Dover: Glenford: Only in America, where ensuring that citizens have health care is seen as tyranny.Everybody in America already has healthcare.
imashark: Weaver95: Limbaugh: we're forced to pay a tax, insurance is now a tax, we're forced, we're forced. forcing is bad, bad, wrong, bad, wrong. tax tax tax. corporations taxing us...backing off that point, stealth tax. behavior modification, tax tax tax. government dictating what we do with private property, tax tax tax.I turned Limbaugh on for literally 30 seconds, and this is exactly what he said.He was so incoherent, my derp-o-meter exploded. I had to turn off the radio.
SuperNinjaToad: unlikely: This is a surprise. I honestly expected the 6-3 conservative court to rule more in favor of "fark the poors because they smell"what do you think this ruling is then when you really apply in IRL scenerios? it is exactly that... fark the poor and 'tax' them more for not having health insurance.
EatenTheSun: Here's how I see it playing out: Company realizes it's cheaper to pay a $2000 fine than provide insurance, drops insurance coverage. Employee realizes it's cheaper to pay the tax than buy insurance, goes without coverage. Huge shift in uninsured to the working class.
physt: Thunderpipes: TwistedFark: bdub77: WombatControl: Legally, this was a piss-poor decision. Yes, the Commerce Clause end of things was upheld, but the SCOTUS basically saved Congress by doing something that Congress never intended to do. That's judicial activism. If Congress had intended the mandate to be a tax, they could have done so directly. SCOTUS inferred that's what they did, which is not the proper role of a judge.Politically, anyone who wants to argue this is good for Obama is kidding themselves. This is the worst outcome for Obama. (The best being the bill being upheld under the Commerce Clause, the second best being the bill being totally struck down.) Why is this the worst outcome?1.) This just energized the living fark out of the GOP base. It was ObamaCare that motivated the Tea Party in 2010. Now it's going to do the same in 2012.2.) It just took away their "RomneyCare" attacks. (Yes, the whole "RomneyCare" bit was incoherent to begin with, but it's less coherent now.)3.) Obama is now responsible for a major middle-class tax increase. After saying that he wouldn't raise taxes. Repeatedly. This will be in every Romney attack ad through this election season. It should be in them now.From now on, it's not "ObamaCare." It's the "Obama Health Care Tax". Let's have the President own his massive tax hike right through to November.Doesn't matter. Americans got health care. This is a win for the American people, not just Obama. Obama will now go down as the first president who got Americans health care. His legacy in that regard, not to mention countless other things he's done as president, will solidify him as one of the greats.And yes I expect him to fully whip Romney's ass in November.I'm not much of a political fan boy, but I have to agree in regards to Obama's legacy. He's managed to accomplish quite a bit in this term - and a fair bit more than I can recall any of the last 4 President's doing.He sure has. No President in history has run up ...
tkwasny: Can't wait for the reaction from the Catholic church when the IRS thugs show up at the Cardinals home with guns drawn and force him to sign his checkbook to fund baby murders. Got popcorn?
TheRedMonkey: ignatius_crumbcake: Tomorrow's headline: "Mitt Romney says Obamacare was his idea from the beginning."I am not sure if you are trolling or not since Romney did implement a similar healthcare plan when he was governor.
Weaver95: hubiestubert: So with the Court making its decision, then the debate is over, right? Process served, and now we can get back to issues that are important?are you kidding!? we have a cat 5 derpstorm warning posted and the outer markers are already reporting derpwinds in excess of 50 rovians per hour!
JerseyTim: If I talk in a big bold font, it means I'm right and everyone should listen to me
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