bulldg4life: Bachmann just corrected Blitzer in saying that the democrats used reconciliation to pass the bill. So a GOP majority in the House and Senate with Romney as president will overturn Obamacare.Of course, reconciliation will be tough when any future bill will cause certain budgetary consequences disallowing the use of reconciliation. Good luck with that.Bachmann says Obama must go! We don't want to be like Europe!
Phinn: Paying for services to the indigent would have cost a lot less than this mess will cost.
Sabyen91: drgloryboy: Medicaid doesn't pay well and most family docs don't accept it.Interesting. When I was on Medicaid my family doc accepted it. And anybody else in network.
Lorelle: *cries tears of joy*/is pushing 50//has a pre-existing condition///can't afford a health care plan right now
Aikidogamer: I find it interesting that sever-ability is now infered to be a part of legislation if it is not there...
chiett: It WILL be repealed.It's just a matter of time.
Weaver95: Romney is blatantly lying again....
mr lawson: LOL...... Premiums are going to go Through the roof!/be careful what you wish for, ya might just get it
Coco LaFemme: Mitt Romney is currently lying his robotic ass off on my TV right now. YOU DID THE SAME THING IN MASSACHUSETTS, YOU SWIZZLESTICK. What did he think "Romneycare" was? The nickname Ann gave for his dick? For fark's sake.
Serious Black: You know, our system also rations care. We just happen to ration it by telling people who can't afford it that they don't get anything at all rather than anything approaching sanity in terms of what care will actually, you know, help people.
bhcompy: you need help: I will never go to the doctor in my lifetime, so this is nothing but butthurt for me.But if you chose to skip health coverage, it would be more than butthurt. I've opted out of healthcare previously simply because my company will pay me a special bonus for opting out, because they still save money after the bonus. Nothing has changed for them, but now I cannot do that anymore.
MythDragon: [www.google.com image 270x185]Well, since we just moved that border all the way down to Mexico, I guess I better stock up on moose quarters so I can buy poutine.
Weaver95: well that was weird and uncomfortable...Romney actually almost showed a valid emotional response on live TV.
david_gaithersburg: Once we throw your lazy arse in jail for not paying your "tax"
Joe Blowme: So when your company sees it cheaper to pay the fine and not offer you that HC package, will you still be dancing in the streets?
Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Wow. He really sucks at this.
FinFangFark: Moss Covered Three Handled Middle Class Are Farked Gredunza
Anti_illuminati: Weaver95: Romney is blatantly lying again....Surprised?
Thunderpipes: Yes, it is. Driving, drinking, they are all voluntary. You can choose to not do it. Can't choose not to exist. Plenty of crunchies only ride bikes and get away with not contributing to the state transportation funds or the federal gasoline tax.
HeartBurnKid: Sabyen91: drgloryboy: Medicaid doesn't pay well and most family docs don't accept it.Interesting. When I was on Medicaid my family doc accepted it. And anybody else in network.That was my mom's experience as well. Was. Until California privatized it.
muck4doo: w00t! More taxes! Hooray!
dennysgod: inner ted: Kuroshin: MasterThief: Silver lining based on SCOTUSBlog: The mandate was not a legit use of the commerce clause, but it was OK as a tax.So yes, Obama and the Democrats did, in fact, raise taxes on the middle class. After repeatedly promising not to.Not mine. I have health insurance.So yeah, not really./a really weird way of doing things - punitive taxation...uh ya, reallyi have health insurance now through my employer. it is a small company, less than 20 people.now they are going to drop our insurance cause they can't afford it.so now i get to buy a product only where my government allows, where ever I want, or get taxed if i don't./the lib jack off fest here is priceless in it's ignorance.//what's the lib equivalent of a tea-bagger??You can get what ever health insurance you want. If you are too lazy deal with the hassle of finding you own you can sign up for the Exchange program and they'll find you one.Also did you know that this tax only comes in to play during tax time (it's not taken out of each pay check), it's just a yes/no box on your tax form. There's no real legal ramification defined (ie no tax liens or criminal penalties) and nobody is checking the millions and millions of people that they in fact have insurance or don't so you can just simply lie on the tax form. Also there are so many ways to get out of it with a clear conscience, you can even use religious beliefs as an excused to get out of paying.
coeyagi: Somewhere, Lee Greenwood is crying.
Weaver95: mr lawson: LOL...... Premiums are going to go Through the roof!/be careful what you wish for, ya might just get ityou mean that premiums weren't going to go up all on their own anyway?
david_gaithersburg: Lorelle: *cries tears of joy*/is pushing 50//has a pre-existing condition///can't afford a health care plan right now..Have no fear. Once we throw your lazy arse in jail for not paying your "tax" you'll have all of the coverage you could ever desire.
WombatControl: Serious Black: You know, our system also rations care. We just happen to ration it by telling people who can't afford it that they don't get anything at all rather than anything approaching sanity in terms of what care will actually, you know, help people.PRICES ARE NOT RATIONINGOh, I guess Apple is "rationing" the new MacBook Pro because it costs so much. And we "ration" food. And gas. And housing. So I suppose that totally justifies a command economy, because according to you if it's not free it's "rationed."I'm not a defender of the health care status quo, but there's a difference between an insurer denying coverage for care and a government doing it. For one, if an insurer does it, you can still get the care. You just have to find a way of paying for it, which is far too difficult, but not impossible.In a system like the one Canada has, you couldn't get that care at all without going to the black market. Finally, the Canadian Supreme Court struck that system down as a gross violation of human rights.And all this bullshiat being spewed about the "profit motive" is crap - free markets work because they assume rational self interest. Socialized systems fail because they assume that central planners are immune to making irrational or counterproductive systems. That simply isn't true, and that's one of the reasons that central planning inevitably fails.
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