Lorelle: *cries tears of joy*/is pushing 50//has a pre-existing condition///can't afford a health care plan right now
brobdiggy: It amazes me that so many of you think this is a great thing. It's just the government getting its foot in the door to have even greater power.1. Government makes everyone have health care, and starts to pay for many more people's health care.2. Government realizes this actually will increase the cost of health care. Needs to reign in costs.3. Government tells people "We pay for your health care, so we can dictate your health".4. Government bans Cheetos, DQ Blizzards, and King Size Candy Bars.// this has already started with the large soda bans.// so much for freedom of choice.
Sabyen91: drgloryboy: zipdog: Derek Force: So does this or does this not mean I have to wait in the ER for 3 hours because its filled with non-insured people who have the flu or a splinter?YesThis will mean you will be waiting for six hours because now everyone will at least have Medicaid insurance that no primary care doctors will take. This means 20 million more people will be going to the ER for both non-emergent concerns and for emergent conditions that they normally wouldn't have gone to the ER before the mandate for fear of going bankrupt. As an ER doc I will no longer be required to provide government mandated charity care as we as a nation will pay for those unable to afford insurance and will require those who can afford insurance to have it. Looks like I won't be having a problem staying busy at work.I refuse to believe you are a doctor. Ohhhh, ER doctor. Actually, this means more people will be able to go to their family doctor rather than rely on the ER.
ignatius_crumbcake: Two Free Republic headlines got the outcome wrong. The comments are hilarious as they go from smug to petulant as they realize it was wrong:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2900385/postshttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2900380/posts
bulldg4life: If you don't have health insurance and go to a hospital, we already pay for your health care.
bulldg4life: wildstarr: So I am taking volunteers from all of you who supported this to either a) pay my tax for being uninsured or b) pay for my insurance.Whatever you want. I'll let you decide.If you don't have health insurance and go to a hospital, we already pay for your health care.
Jackson Herring: Jackpot777: * shakes tiny impotent fist of rage *I work fast. How do you think I've had so much TF without paying for it? It's not JUST sexual favors.
mrshowrules: bulldg4life: Bachmann just corrected Blitzer in saying that the democrats used reconciliation to pass the bill. So a GOP majority in the House and Senate with Romney as president will overturn Obamacare.Of course, reconciliation will be tough when any future bill will cause certain budgetary consequences disallowing the use of reconciliation. Good luck with that.Bachmann says Obama must go! We don't want to be like Europe!Mandatory list of health care system by Country:1 France2 Italy3 San Marino4 Andorra5 Malta...35 Dominica36 Costa Rica37 United States of America
Serious Black: Aetna's stock is down 4.3% today. WellPoint's stock is down 6.45% today. UnitedHealth's stock is down 3% today. You think they're happy about the ruling?
Dorf11: "The supreme court upheld Obama Care. That's it. I'm moving to Canada!"
jayhawk88: Via Phil Plait's Twitter: People moving to Canada to avoid ObamaCare.
FirstNationalBastard: MythDragon: pudding7: Wow. Did not see nazi that coming.Fixed.You know who else forced unwanted medical care on people?Mitt Romney?
ialdabaoth: Actually, I really *would* like an answer.
Jjaro: Well, it is. Just ask all the people on my Facebook feed who posted things like "This ruling just led me to donate $100 to Romney." They are speaking with their wallet.
From the ruling:
4. CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS delivered the opinion of the Court with respect to Part III-C, concluding that the individual mandate may beupheld as within Congress's power under the Taxing Clause. Pp. 33-44.(a) The Affordable Care Act describes the "[s]hared responsibilitypayment" as a "penalty," not a "tax." That label is fatal to the application of the Anti-Injunction Act. It does not, however, control whether an exaction is within Congress's power to tax. In answering that constitutional question, this Court follows a functional approach,"[d]isregarding the designation of the exaction, and viewing its substance and application." United States v. Constantine, 296 U. S. 287,294. Pp. 33-35.(b) Such an analysis suggests that the shared responsibility payment may for constitutional purposes be considered a tax. The payment is not so high that there is really no choice but to buy healthinsurance; the payment is not limited to willful violations, as penalties for unlawful acts often are; and the payment is collected solely by the IRS through the normal means of taxation. Cf. Bailey v. Drexel Furniture Co., 259 U. S. 20, 36-37. None of this is to say that payment is not intended to induce the purchase of health insurance. But the mandate need not be read to declare that failing to do so is unlawful. Neither the Affordable Care Act nor any other law attaches negative legal consequences to not buying health insurance, beyond requiring a payment to the IRS. And Congress's choice of language-stating that individuals "shall" obtain insurance or pay a "penalty"-does not require reading §5000A as punishing unlawful conduct. It may also be read as imposing a tax on those who go without insurance. See New York v. United States, 505 U. S. 144, 169-174. Pp. 35-40.
illegal.tender: brobdiggy: It amazes me that so many of you think this is a great thing. It's just the government getting its foot in the door to have even greater power.1. Government makes everyone have health care, and starts to pay for many more people's health care.2. Government realizes this actually will increase the cost of health care. Needs to reign in costs.3. Government tells people "We pay for your health care, so we can dictate your health".4. Government bans Cheetos, DQ Blizzards, and King Size Candy Bars.// this has already started with the large soda bans.// so much for freedom of choice.Then you vote people in who do not institute such policies, or revert them if passed.Democracy: how does it work?
The_Sponge: Gwendolyn: I never saw the difference between the federal government saying I must have health care and Maryland requiring me to have car insurance. I'm sure it is in some way but we get told we have to do things all the time.Here's the difference:You don't have to drive a car.
Jackpot777: This line is meant for people that would never travel to Europe. It's like with the North Koreans: the conservative masses believe what they're told to believe, because they're never going to find out the truth anyway./going to see the single-manned canoe slalom semis, final, and medals at the end of July//go go Casey Eichfeld, PA represent!
Sid_the_sadist: I'm going to quit my job and go on welfare now. fark you guys, you pay for my shiat from now on. Including my healthcare.
drgloryboy: Medicaid doesn't pay well and most family docs don't accept it.
chiett: It WILL be repealed.It's just a matter of time.
cman: NowhereMon: LOL free republic is melting downAnd I bet ya Kos is having the biggest orgasm
sweetmelissa31: The_Sponge: Here's the difference:You don't have to drive a car.You don't have to live.No, seriously, you don't.
SisterMaryElephant: Freepers: Benedict Arnold RobertsHA HA HA HA HA
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