PanicMan: My coworker just said "they can't do that because the founding fathers wrote the constitution based on the old testimate". Also, this is the end of the country.
hubiestubert: So with the Court making its decision, then the debate is over, right? Process served, and now we can get back to issues that are important?
CavalierEternal: Not sure if anyone's posted it yet, but Boehner is about to go live.
St_Francis_P: Jjaro: Mentat: Jjaro: Kennedy went right and Roberts went left? That's surprising.And are the liberals on Fark and the op-eds around America going to stop complaining about how biased and partisan the Supreme Court is now?No, because this is still the same SCOTUS that thinks money = speech.Well, it is. Just ask all the people on my Facebook feed who posted things like "This ruling just led me to donate $100 to Romney." They are speaking with their wallet.I'm sure they were all going to vote for Obama before this.
BlueJay206: This is bad news...for Obama.He has just been declared a liar to the American people, in that the mandate "wasn't a tax", and that he "wouldn't raise taxes on the middle class".Well folks, the middle class just got the largest "tax" increase in history, and Obama should earn PolitiFacts PANTS ON FIRE rating.Either way this was going to get ruled, it was going to galvanize the ruling's opposition. The SCOTUS may very well have just handed Romney a victory in November.
ignatius_crumbcake: Tomorrow's headline: "Mitt Romney says Obamacare was his idea from the beginning."
kasmel: Thunderpipes: Still scary. Means Congress can regulate your behavior via taxes.Look up gas taxes and why States have the same drinking age and mostly the same freeway speeds. This is nothing new.
Bullseyed: BunkyBrewman: FoxNews is keeping up the fight.[a57.foxnews.com image 640x387]/nothing like not updating the headline on their front page for at least half an hour after the decision has been madeAs opposed to CNN who updated with the wrong verdict?No one was prepared for this ruling because it is blatantly obvious that the law was unConstitutional.
PC LOAD LETTER: TIKIMAN87: Obama has just destroyed this country.We survived Bush. You will survive Obama.
Weaver95: well...since i'm not a tax dodging cheat...no. can't say i'm familiar with what happens if/when you lie to the IRS
Jackson Herring: sweetmelissa31: Hehe I like this one. Stealth Marxist.Why is it that people who get mad about things on the internet know pretty much nothing about history and like basic theories of government?
Weaver95: david_gaithersburg: Weaver95: gaith..I see that you are not familiar with the consequences of not having enough cash to pay the IRS.well...since i'm not a tax dodging cheat...no. can't say i'm familiar with what happens if/when you lie to the IRS.
mrshowrules: There are tens of millions of Americans pretending to be Conservatives. I think the movement is called the Tea Party. GOP
RminusQ: Not gonna lie, I did a decently loud "WOOHOO!" and a quick fist-pumping lap around the room when I saw SCOTUSBlog say that long story short, "the entirety of the bill is upheld"
US Economy, RIP, 1776-2012Get out of the market before November. Should BO win, the computers at the stock exchanges will burst into flames with investors trying to sell.I can't stay in business with this ruling.I have to close.Will sell off client list with consistent repeat business. Nice return on investment.
soporific: So yes, it's a tax
Daveism: sideways with a screwdriver.
cousndick: Lot of trolling I see...
NateGrey: Whar Obama Whar??Spike the football.We can fix Americas energy problems if we can harness Conservative Butthurt!!!11
Thunderpipes: PunGent: vernonFL: Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't one of the things that people don't like about Obamacare is that they'll be required to buy health insurance that they feel they don't need as they are in generally good health?That is the whole issue. Say you're 25 and you say, "I'm young and healthy, I don't need insurance." So you don't buy any. Then, you get cancer and you try to get insurance, nobody will insure you because you have cancer.One of my problems with Romneycare is that the young healthy 25 year olds can't just buy a bare-bones catastrophic coverage plan with a high deductible, which WOULD cover them for the long-shot cancer/car crash scenarios...they have to get comprehensive coverage. I guess the idea is to make the pool of insureds big enough.Not sure if those type of policies would "count" under Obamacare.They do not. High deductible plans like that are illegal under the ACA. They will need to be replaced. This will further burden companies that employ kids fresh out of college and the kids themselves. Sure, they can stay on their parent's plan till 26 (and then parents pay more) but then they are screwed. They need a very high cost, low deductible plan or they get taxed.
pudding7: Wow. Did not see nazi that coming.
Dancin_In_Anson: Dimensio: Please explain how, exactly, my taxes will be increased.If you do not buy insurance you will be taxed.
InmanRoshi: And as a mortal human being you are eventually going to get sick and die, and if you were uninsured those costs would have been covered by the insured.You were simply gambling (with other people's money) that was going to happen later rather than sooner. I shed no tears for you, and you get no sympathy from me.
Johnson: I love the last one: the guy can't stay in business but will sell it to you and you will get a "nice return on investment". WTF? He just said he can't stay in business with this ruling!
MasterThief: Silver lining based on SCOTUSBlog: The mandate was not a legit use of the commerce clause, but it was OK as a tax.So yes, Obama and the Democrats did, in fact, raise taxes on the middle class. After repeatedly promising not to.
Brother_Mouzone: Jensaarai: Well, there ya go. We now have Democrats firmly cheering for a Republican healthcare bill, and Republicans can continue feeling persecuted.you know I dont think 99% of the people understand that. The republicans came up with the mandate about 3 or 4 years ago and now they are against it. idiots.
The_Sponge: optimistic_cynic: The_Sponge: Remember when Obama promised that he wouldn't raise your taxes if you made less than $250K per year?If you have health insurance they won't be raised.Newsflash: There are people who make under $250K per year who don't have health insurance.
Thunderpipes: People who don't have a job are trying to get free money when they need to pay their bills at the expense of the rest of us. Same thing, Captain Silly.
Thunderpipes: Yes, it is. Driving, drinking, they are all voluntary. You can choose to not do it. Can't choose not to exist.
MythDragon: pudding7: Wow. Did not see nazi that coming.Fixed.You know who else forced unwanted medical care on people?
Thunderpipes: Yes, it is. Driving, drinking, they are all voluntary. Owning a house, having children, they are all voluntary. You can choose to not do it. Can't choose not to exist.Now, if you start charging non-carrenters owners a tax, bike riderschildless people a tax, etc, think that would fly?
Thunderpipes: RolandGunner: Well, in the long run it's the best possible outcome if the law was going to be upheld. By changing the mandate penalty to a tax and, ruling out the commerce clause justification, the bill is upheld without issuing a blanket authorization for the federal government to force the purchase of goods and services.But it just did. If Obama wants you to do something, you do it, or the feds tax you. That is force. Just wait until Pubs in the states start pushing something you don't like and enforce it with a tax..... Will you like it then?
Thunderpipes: Now liberals, if we get a Republican advantage, how about we implement a tax on the unemployed? No job? Fine, pay a tax. I know you think you just won, but you just screwed everyone equally with another erosion of individual rights.
Blues_X: TIKIMAN87: Obama has just destroyed this country.Obama killed my father, shot ATE my dog, and stole my bible, etc.
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