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2012-06-28 10:28:08 AM
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Galaxy Tabs on fire off the shoulder of Cupertino. I watched iPhone's glittering in the darkness at Steve Jobs' grave. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain... Time to die.
 
2012-06-28 10:46:03 AM
Does it have any kind of video out? That's the only thing that keeps Amazon from having my money.
 
2012-06-28 10:46:57 AM

Calmamity: Amazon from having my money.


Or rather, my money for a tablet computer.

They get plenty of my money.
 
2012-06-28 10:57:22 AM

Calmamity: Calmamity: Amazon from having my money.

Or rather, my money for a tablet computer.

They get plenty of my money.


some sites list yes in the specs for hdmi out.
 
2012-06-28 11:02:16 AM
The only thing I would like is a SD card slot which it seems this does not have. For the price it seems like a pretty good tablet. I will probably get one after its been out for a while, as long as it doesnt end up being a piece of shiat.
 
2012-06-28 11:04:37 AM
I'll have to play around with one first to make an actual judgement, but I'm not crazy about the return of the pre-HC/ICS giant phone UI. The nook/kindle-like content focus on the home screen might make up for it a bit though depending on how well it is implemented since that's probably the thing I liked most about the Nook Color. The only problem with the content focused UI is that like Nook and Kindle, it will probably only be Google Play content only with everything else locked up in apps. Hopefully there will some sort of API so others can get their content out of the apps and into the main UI as well.
 
2012-06-28 11:40:44 AM
I'm sure someone at Research in Motion is looking at the press clamoring for 7 inch tablets and wondering why the Playbook failed, all the while not realizing that a tablet minus content is just a really shiatty computer.
 
2012-06-28 11:42:53 AM
Good idea... because the Kindle Fire is just so awesome....

40% customer satisfaction rate & all.
 
2012-06-28 11:49:34 AM
Subby: Roy Batty? Or did you mean 'Rick Deckard'?
 
2012-06-28 11:50:06 AM

schattenteufel: Good idea... because the Kindle Fire is just so awesome....

40% customer satisfaction rate & all.


I'd put the real satisfaction rate a little higher. How many people had realistic expectations of a ebook reader with some extra features vs. OMG $200 iPad.
 
2012-06-28 11:50:26 AM
There can be only one.
 
2012-06-28 11:53:01 AM

bsharitt: it will probably only be Google Play content only with everything else locked up in apps.


Why would you think that? It's running stock Android, which means you won't be limited to google play media and can install any tablet app you want.

Netflix away.
 
2012-06-28 12:03:47 PM

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Subby: Roy Batty? Or did you mean 'Rick Deckard'?


Roy is inconsolable because he's now an obsolete model.
 
2012-06-28 12:07:15 PM

Faps_in_the_kitchen: The only thing I would like is a SD card slot which it seems this does not have. .


Yeah, this. My 1.5-year-old 7-inch Galaxy Tab is the same size, and has a MicroSD slot. The fact that the Nexus doesn't blocks me from upgrading. I'm going on vacation tomorrow for a week, and want to load up with music and movies before I leave. And this thing doesn't have built-in 3G/4G, so no 'cloud' stuff for me (my current Tab is 3G). And I won't have a hotspot available most places on this trip.

I'm still waiting for the 'perfect' tablet. Actually looking forward to trying out one of the new Windows devices.
 
2012-06-28 12:26:25 PM

tanman1975: bsharitt: it will probably only be Google Play content only with everything else locked up in apps.

Why would you think that? It's running stock Android, which means you won't be limited to google play media and can install any tablet app you want.

Netflix away.


I'm talking about the way that content is broken out on the home screen like individual books and movies(like the Kindle Fire). Everything else will still require you to go through an app most likely, but we won't know that until they get into peoples' hands.
 
2012-06-28 12:51:47 PM
Did anyone else see the Nexus Q. http://www.google.com/nexus/q
A home media streaming Android device.

I don't compute..
 
2012-06-28 12:52:25 PM

bsharitt: tanman1975: bsharitt: it will probably only be Google Play content only with everything else locked up in apps.

Why would you think that? It's running stock Android, which means you won't be limited to google play media and can install any tablet app you want.

Netflix away.

I'm talking about the way that content is broken out on the home screen like individual books and movies(like the Kindle Fire). Everything else will still require you to go through an app most likely, but we won't know that until they get into peoples' hands.


Install Go Launcher. It takes care of that. I have it on my Kindle Fire, and have not seen the stock Amazon launcher in quite some time.
 
2012-06-28 12:55:07 PM

MindStalker: Did anyone else see the Nexus Q. http://www.google.com/nexus/q
A home media streaming Android device.

I don't compute..


It's along the same lines as Roku, and Apple TV.
 
2012-06-28 01:00:05 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: MindStalker: Did anyone else see the Nexus Q. http://www.google.com/nexus/q
A home media streaming Android device.

I don't compute..

It's along the same lines as Roku, and Apple TV.


I take that back. I heard it was similar to Roku and Apple TV. After checking out the website; it looks like it is dependent upon an Android device to access content for streaming. Wow, they want $300 for that? I see fail.
 
2012-06-28 01:05:23 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: MindStalker: Did anyone else see the Nexus Q. http://www.google.com/nexus/q
A home media streaming Android device.

I don't compute..

It's along the same lines as Roku, and Apple TV.

I take that back. I heard it was similar to Roku and Apple TV. After checking out the website; it looks like it is dependent upon an Android device to access content for streaming. Wow, they want $300 for that? I see fail.


It runs Android itself. The apparent issue it seems is it requires an Android device as a remote, it doesn't provide any abilities to use a regular remote with the TV screen. Its certainly capable of doing such though it doesn't seem to have any way for input, hopefully they fix this.
 
2012-06-28 01:07:36 PM

Calmamity: Does it have any kind of video out? That's the only thing that keeps Amazon from having my money.


It'll have HDMI out either via a port or an extension cable. Google isn't stupid.
 
2012-06-28 01:12:01 PM

MindStalker: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: MindStalker: Did anyone else see the Nexus Q. http://www.google.com/nexus/q
A home media streaming Android device.

I don't compute..

It's along the same lines as Roku, and Apple TV.

I take that back. I heard it was similar to Roku and Apple TV. After checking out the website; it looks like it is dependent upon an Android device to access content for streaming. Wow, they want $300 for that? I see fail.

It runs Android itself. The apparent issue it seems is it requires an Android device as a remote, it doesn't provide any abilities to use a regular remote with the TV screen. Its certainly capable of doing such though it doesn't seem to have any way for input, hopefully they fix this.


http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/46286/google-nexus-q-hands-on-previe w
Whoa, apparently you have to have a Jelly Bean device (Android 4.1), yeah BIG fail there.
 
2012-06-28 01:13:31 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: bsharitt: tanman1975: bsharitt: it will probably only be Google Play content only with everything else locked up in apps.

Why would you think that? It's running stock Android, which means you won't be limited to google play media and can install any tablet app you want.

Netflix away.

I'm talking about the way that content is broken out on the home screen like individual books and movies(like the Kindle Fire). Everything else will still require you to go through an app most likely, but we won't know that until they get into peoples' hands.

Install Go Launcher. It takes care of that. I have it on my Kindle Fire, and have not seen the stock Amazon launcher in quite some time.


The Go Launcher allows you to put content front and center instead of apps? To be clear, I really like the idea of how B&N, Amazon, and now apparently Google are going for a content centric UI instead of app centric, but I don't like that so far the implementations seems to only use the content from who ever is building the device. I really hope there is some kind of API to help break out of that box.
 
2012-06-28 01:19:00 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: MindStalker: Did anyone else see the Nexus Q. http://www.google.com/nexus/q
A home media streaming Android device.

I don't compute..

It's along the same lines as Roku, and Apple TV.


Except Google's is triple the price for fewer features.
 
2012-06-28 01:32:55 PM
$250 is cheap enough for me to give it a shot.

I don't really need a tablet so I haven't been able to justify buying something like the transformer or ipad for twice the amount.
 
2012-06-28 01:48:09 PM

bsharitt: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: bsharitt: tanman1975: bsharitt: it will probably only be Google Play content only with everything else locked up in apps.

Why would you think that? It's running stock Android, which means you won't be limited to google play media and can install any tablet app you want.

Netflix away.

I'm talking about the way that content is broken out on the home screen like individual books and movies(like the Kindle Fire). Everything else will still require you to go through an app most likely, but we won't know that until they get into peoples' hands.

Install Go Launcher. It takes care of that. I have it on my Kindle Fire, and have not seen the stock Amazon launcher in quite some time.

The Go Launcher allows you to put content front and center instead of apps? To be clear, I really like the idea of how B&N, Amazon, and now apparently Google are going for a content centric UI instead of app centric, but I don't like that so far the implementations seems to only use the content from who ever is building the device. I really hope there is some kind of API to help break out of that box.


Go Launcher gives you a GUI like a standard Android tablet. All your apps are still available that came on the tablet, plus of course, any apps that you may download yourself. The picture below (not my tablet) is one example of what you can expect.

hitekpals.com

reverting back to the stock Fire launcher is simple, should you decide to use that instead.
 
2012-06-28 01:52:56 PM

Desquamation: $250 is cheap enough for me to give it a shot.

I don't really need a tablet so I haven't been able to justify buying something like the transformer or ipad for twice the amount.


Given the specs and the price point; I don't think you can go wrong. I'm sure B&N and Amazon are scrambling to figure out how to compete with this when it hits the market.
 
2012-06-28 01:59:49 PM
Meh. I 'll wait on the Surface tab/laptop
 
2012-06-28 02:31:07 PM

drjekel_mrhyde: Meh. I 'll wait on the Surface tab/laptop


This.

Last quarter, I saw another student using an Asus tablet running OneNote. She was using it to take notes in Differential Equations class. Handwriting recognition is old stuff; the fact that OneNote was able to recognize various math operators, Greek letters, and superscript was pretty impressive.

If Surface also allows this and Microsoft doesn't screw up the marketing, this could be the real iPad "killer." As far as I'm aware, none of Microsoft's competitors allow stylus input and none have Office. I'm considering getting one as soon as they come out.
 
2012-06-28 02:33:20 PM
Will it have a four year life span?
 
2012-06-28 02:40:45 PM

BlackArt: Will it have a four year life span?


Better question is, will they offer a standard pleasure model?
 
2012-06-28 02:58:10 PM
Will they be making a Priss pleasure model?
 
2012-06-28 03:01:40 PM
Handle for sale: email for details.
 
2012-06-28 03:07:52 PM
How does it feel... about its grandparents?
 
2012-06-28 03:21:18 PM
WARNING:
if the device feels that it may be close to failing the Voight-Kampf test, seek shelter immediately.
 
2012-06-28 03:22:10 PM
With these hardware specs at this price point, I see lots and lots of sales in this device's future.

They did leave certain features out of the equation like 3G/4G networking and a flash memory slot so that the OEM's aren't completely cut out of making devices that will sell, but for people looking for a cheap home device with great specs, this is it.

When I'm at home, I can stream content from my computers over wifi to my heart's content so lack of expandable storage on the device itself isn't a huge issue.

Google is also working on video streaming over WiFi (a la Apple's Airplay and Intel's WiDi) so the lack of an HDMI port is not a big deal.
 
2012-06-28 03:32:57 PM
I think the price is bit more because it was made in the US.

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Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: MindStalker: Did anyone else see the Nexus Q. http://www.google.com/nexus/q
A home media streaming Android device.

I don't compute..

It's along the same lines as Roku, and Apple TV.

I take that back. I heard it was similar to Roku and Apple TV. After checking out the website; it looks like it is dependent upon an Android device to access content for streaming. Wow, they want $300 for that? I see fail.

 
2012-06-28 03:40:40 PM

Samwise Gamgee: Yeah, this. My 1.5-year-old 7-inch Galaxy Tab is the same size, and has a MicroSD slot. The fact that the Nexus doesn't blocks me from upgrading.


I have a Galaxy Tab 8.9", which is my favorite among all the tablets I have. It has the same screen resolution and lack of microSD, but it weighs around 100g more and of course it has a slightly larger screen. The thing is, I don't use it to store that much data. I have hundreds of .epubs on it, but music and video gets streamed via DLNA if I watch anything at all. I have multiple 32GB cards for my phone and the music player in my car, and I swap those all the time, but I've found my data storage needs on the mid-size devices to be pretty flexible.

The combination of low weight, moderately high resolution screen and low price is really nice. This stuff is only going to get cheaper, but I'd say that right now this is the device to beat.
 
2012-06-28 03:50:13 PM

likefunbutnot: Samwise Gamgee: Yeah, this. My 1.5-year-old 7-inch Galaxy Tab is the same size, and has a MicroSD slot. The fact that the Nexus doesn't blocks me from upgrading.

I have a Galaxy Tab 8.9", which is my favorite among all the tablets I have. It has the same screen resolution and lack of microSD, but it weighs around 100g more and of course it has a slightly larger screen. The thing is, I don't use it to store that much data. I have hundreds of .epubs on it, but music and video gets streamed via DLNA if I watch anything at all. I have multiple 32GB cards for my phone and the music player in my car, and I swap those all the time, but I've found my data storage needs on the mid-size devices to be pretty flexible.

The combination of low weight, moderately high resolution screen and low price is really nice. This stuff is only going to get cheaper, but I'd say that right now this is the device to beat.


I've never really had the need for DLNA, and the players/servers I've tried were a few years ago, and well, pretty darn hard to get working well together.

What are you using?

Does it transcode formats on the fly?
 
2012-06-28 03:51:20 PM
I like the idea of the 7 inch tablet in terms of portability, but that screen size just doesn't work well for documents and PDFs like the larger iPad screen does.

I'd get one to play with, but I'm already too invested in the iOS ecosystem to give up my apps I've paid for.
 
2012-06-28 03:52:14 PM
I ordered an ASUS Transformer on Tuesday night, and after reading the specs of this, although the processor might be a bit better, I think the screen size and lack of expandability (short of using one of these ) will keep me from sending the Transformer back. Plus the Transformer has 2 cameras.
 
2012-06-28 03:58:11 PM
I'm the proud owner of a Kocaso 10.1" Android 4.0 tablet. The damn thing costs under $180 shipped, it ships with the play store on it, it has a gig of ram, a capacitive touchscreen and it's rooted right from the factory.

Granted, it is a budget tablet, you need a 3g usb dongle or a wifi hotspot to use it on the net, but I always have my phone with me anyway, so that's not a problem if I want to use it to surf while I'm on the highway or something.

If anyone is interested in them, check out the "Kocaso M1060." They can be bought through Amazon or Sears, I got mine from Amazon.

// Not a salesman, just someone who got a new toy last week
 
2012-06-28 04:03:45 PM

Swoop1809: I like the idea of the 7 inch tablet in terms of portability, but that screen size just doesn't work well for documents and PDFs like the larger iPad screen does.


It has a higher screen resolution than the first two iterations of the iPad had, so it shows more content at once than either of those devices did.

I'm sure people with poor eyesight might want bigger pixels, though.
 
2012-06-28 04:07:39 PM

RoyBatty: I've never really had the need for DLNA, and the players/servers I've tried were a few years ago, and well, pretty darn hard to get working well together.


I have a Windows machine running Mezzmo tied to a 36TB FreeNAS system that it accesses via iSCSI.
BubbleUPnP talks to Mezzmo.

It works on my tablets but I've never tried it on my phone.
 
2012-06-28 04:09:12 PM

Leeds: Kocaso M1060


that's pretty cool, dude.
 
2012-06-28 04:16:11 PM

BullBearMS: It has a higher screen resolution than the first two iterations of the iPad had,


The low-res screen combined with the high weight of the device are one of my biggest gripes about the ipad. I'm sure it's great if you set it up on a stand and watch low-resolution videos on it but as an e-reader that form factor is god-awful.
 
2012-06-28 04:22:18 PM

schattenteufel: Good idea... because the Kindle Fire is just so awesome....

40% customer satisfaction rate & all.


I can't speak for others but we love our kindle. easy to read on, non drm books thanks to calibre, and tons of apps for the kids.
Bonus is that it's cheaper than the ipad

/i know, only anecdotal evidence
 
2012-06-28 04:27:22 PM

likefunbutnot: RoyBatty: I've never really had the need for DLNA, and the players/servers I've tried were a few years ago, and well, pretty darn hard to get working well together.

I have a Windows machine running Mezzmo tied to a 36TB FreeNAS system that it accesses via iSCSI.
BubbleUPnP talks to Mezzmo.

It works on my tablets but I've never tried it on my phone.


I hadn't heard of Mezzmo, so thank you.

I had BubbleUPnP installed, never used it, but it was sort of a bookmark, see what happens to it, remind me of it, as I track it via updates to my tablet. (But then I uninstalled it.)
 
2012-06-28 04:39:51 PM

likefunbutnot: BullBearMS: It has a higher screen resolution than the first two iterations of the iPad had,

The low-res screen combined with the high weight of the device are one of my biggest gripes about the ipad. I'm sure it's great if you set it up on a stand and watch low-resolution videos on it but as an e-reader that form factor is god-awful.


If all you want is an excellent e-reader, no general purpose tablet is going to beat one of the super cheap Kindle models.

Light, compact, crisp display, battery charges that last weeks...
 
2012-06-28 04:41:05 PM

BullBearMS: If all you want is an excellent e-reader, no general purpose tablet is going to beat one of the super cheap Kindle models.


Unfortunately, Kindles can't render PDFs for shiat.
 
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