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2012-06-29 11:14:26 AM  

Z-clipped: t3knomanser: machoprogrammer: Smart phones with apps existed for years before the iPhone

There was nothing on the market like the iPhone when it came out. There was nothing that looked like it, there was nothing with that kind of UI. Android completely changed gears, practically the next day, to start behaving and looking more like iOS (and yes, there were Android builds available before the iPhone came out).

Now, sure, there's nothing particularly revolutionary in the technology of the iPhone. But if you're being that pedantic, there's been no "revolution" in phone technology since the early Palm devices. Probably longer. What Apple did was put a bunch of existing technology together in a way that made sense and could be sold to the general public. That's more than just marketing- it's design. Design matters. It's more than mere look and feel. It's how features combine and interact, it's how a device feels when you use it, it's how the functional components are immediately obvious.

You had to learn to use a Crackberry. Nobody needed to learn to use an iPhone.

That's nice, but there was an even bigger revolution that happened. Apple decided that they were going to tell the telcos how the phone worked. Until Apple did that, it was the phone companies that controlled the features and software that came on your phone.

Frankly, every time I need to use my wife's itouch for something, I get all stabby until I remember to pretend I'm a 6-year-old who's never seen a computer before.

I farking HATE iOS. Why the fark should I have to go find a program somewhere in another application just to shut it down? Why the fark would I want a program to keep using memory if all instances are closed? My one gripe with android is that it uses this idiotic model. When the app market is glutted with products specifically to help you close programs, you know you made a design error.


App killing programs are popular because they are easy to program and there are many people, such as yourself, that don't know how unneccessary they are. Android is programmed to keep as many apps loaded in RAM as possible. This allows you to re-open a previously opened app faster. Android OS does a good job of killing apps when it needs more RAM for currently running apps. Killing apps that are using CPU cycles helps save battery life, however.

There are some problem apps from crappy programmers (ahem... Zynga) that do actively use CPU and try their damnedest to not be killed. I've found (in Zynga's case anyway) that these are generally iPhone apps ported over to Android, and can't figure out how to use a damn push notification and are constantly "polling" for updates.
 
2012-06-29 11:27:17 AM  

Z-clipped: t3knomanser: machoprogrammer: Smart phones with apps existed for years before the iPhone

There was nothing on the market like the iPhone when it came out. There was nothing that looked like it, there was nothing with that kind of UI. Android completely changed gears, practically the next day, to start behaving and looking more like iOS (and yes, there were Android builds available before the iPhone came out).

Now, sure, there's nothing particularly revolutionary in the technology of the iPhone. But if you're being that pedantic, there's been no "revolution" in phone technology since the early Palm devices. Probably longer. What Apple did was put a bunch of existing technology together in a way that made sense and could be sold to the general public. That's more than just marketing- it's design. Design matters. It's more than mere look and feel. It's how features combine and interact, it's how a device feels when you use it, it's how the functional components are immediately obvious.

You had to learn to use a Crackberry. Nobody needed to learn to use an iPhone.

That's nice, but there was an even bigger revolution that happened. Apple decided that they were going to tell the telcos how the phone worked. Until Apple did that, it was the phone companies that controlled the features and software that came on your phone.

Frankly, every time I need to use my wife's itouch for something, I get all stabby until I remember to pretend I'm a 6-year-old who's never seen a computer before.

I farking HATE iOS. Why the fark should I have to go find a program somewhere in another application just to shut it down? Why the fark would I want a program to keep using memory if all instances are closed? My one gripe with android is that it uses this idiotic model. When the app market is glutted with products specifically to help you close programs, you know you made a design error.


Task managers are obsolete. Froyo and later versions of Android move memory around so the ones you're not using don't get it. If you're noticing a performance decrease from apps, its likely because one of them isn't functioning correctly.
 
2012-06-29 12:11:11 PM  
I want to get the patent on patent trolling as a business model...

It`s just a method to get results isn`t it? That means it can be patented. Make the whole thing explode then we will have to find a better way.
 
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