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2012-06-28 07:27:23 AM
A couple weeks ago I saw a person in line at some retail store or another. Something looked funny about her glasses. Then I realized they had no lenses.

/CSB
 
2012-06-28 07:52:07 AM
Why don't they just build a scouter already. Everyone wants one, no one's gonna build it?

Farkin' idjits. Do what the ipone did: don't find the market, MAKE IT.
 
2012-06-28 09:29:11 AM
There may be issues with Google Glass, but this reads like something someone will link to in 5 years to show how off-base the author was. Yaknow, Something like this.
 
2012-06-28 09:52:53 AM
Wearable technology, which so far has mainly consisted of fitness monitors and 3D glasses, rarely makes actions seem smoother or easier. If anything, it always feels retro. Still having to physically put on glasses to view three-dimensional content feels cumbersome and positively last century.

It's funny that she listed fitness monitors and 3D glasses for wearable technology, but left out the most ubiquitous piece of wearable technology today - bluetooth headsets.
 
2012-06-28 10:02:48 AM
 
2012-06-28 10:03:32 AM
doh
media.giantbomb.com
 
2012-06-28 10:19:05 AM

Babwa Wawa: A couple weeks ago I saw a person in line at some retail store or another. Something looked funny about her glasses. Then I realized they had no lenses.


As a person who needs corrective lenses to see properly, I usually beat those people senseless and bloody with the nearest brick-like object to hand.
 
2012-06-28 10:19:13 AM
I've been wanting AR glasses for a while now. Tried to source the parts 12 years ago, couldn't find a decent battery that wasn't a car battery. Lithium is here now, and better engineers are on the job. I can wait for a commercially available product.
 
2012-06-28 10:21:04 AM
Even if you hate Google Glass, your kids will love it. And your grandkids won't understand how you ever lived without it.
 
2012-06-28 10:21:17 AM
Still having to physically put on glasses to view three-dimensional content feels cumbersome and positively last century.

As opposed to using WHAT to project the AR into your eyes, magic?

/idiot author is idiot
 
2012-06-28 10:23:03 AM
Didn't we already see a future with Google Glasses already?

upload.wikimedia.org

I for one am not looking forward to be inundated with POV videos from everyone in the world. I don't need a world where we think we're SOOOOOOO interesting that we need to look through other people's eyes at stuff... knowing full well that 95% of those feeds will look at the same things as everyone else.

The greatest technology in the world and we'll just end up looking at cats... hell, even robots do that now!
 
2012-06-28 10:23:14 AM
I don't know that I want to be that 'connected'. Now if Google were to make some x-ray specs...
 
2012-06-28 10:24:27 AM

Babwa Wawa: A couple weeks ago I saw a person in line at some retail store or another. Something looked funny about her glasses. Then I realized they had no lenses.

/CSB


But don't you dare call her a pretentious conformist!
 
2012-06-28 10:35:48 AM

flaminio: Even if you hate Google Glass, your kids will love it.


Actually, I don't think so. I think something very like Google Glass will be popular, but their current implementation looks like shiat. Microsoft's approach was better- it was a necklace that constantly recorded.

That idea- the elimination of intentionality- is the future. I shouldn't need to decide to take a picture. I should be able to say, after the fact, that there was a picture I wanted. The system should be smart enough to combine the image data with voice commands to filter out which specific subset of frames I actually want. It's easy enough to tell which ones are blurry, which ones contain a clear subject, etc.

None of that is cutting edge technology. It's just that nobody's put it together in that arrangement, yet.
 
2012-06-28 10:37:09 AM

Repo Man: Babwa Wawa: A couple weeks ago I saw a person in line at some retail store or another. Something looked funny about her glasses. Then I realized they had no lenses.

/CSB

But don't you dare call her a pretentious conformist!


Fun fact: the first glasses were not for vision correction at all. They had flat glass panes for lenses, and were worn as a fashion accessory ("Look towards me, yon peasants; verily I am riche enouf that I may put windows upon myne face.")
 
2012-06-28 10:46:51 AM

Mayhem of the Black Underclass: I've been wanting AR glasses for a while now. Tried to source the parts 12 years ago, couldn't find a decent battery that wasn't a car battery. Lithium is here now, and better engineers are on the job. I can wait for a commercially available product.


Same here. Although I prefer some of the different designs that were developed, rather than the frames they are using currently.

Can't wait for this to finally be a reality.
 
2012-06-28 10:47:39 AM

doglover: Why don't they just build a scouter already. Everyone wants one, no one's gonna build it?


They're still trying to figure out a good way to measure a person's power level, and how best to calibrate the scale.
 
2012-06-28 10:48:47 AM
Personally, I like the idea of having a HUD screen for a few good reasons.

1) Makes it easier to get things done on the go. Usually I have a check list on my phone / tablet so when I am out and about. I can keep track of what I need to do. With these glasses, its a good objective list.

2) An actual mini map like we see in gaming. Something like that, naturally not used during driving unless done correctly when it comes to visibility, could be really useful in not getting lost. This can also be used by malls and other entertainment centers like amusement parks. Download the map and you have everything literally displayed for you in your eye.

3) Add a camera on it and you can have a POV picture / video of whatever you want.

3.1) If they could get it to magnify / zoom with the camera and a PIP function. I would personally love it cause it would make reading motherboards easier.
 
2012-06-28 10:53:17 AM

Millennium: doglover: Why don't they just build a scouter already. Everyone wants one, no one's gonna build it?

They're still trying to figure out a good way to measure a person's power level, and how best to calibrate the scale.


I can see it now... Everyone will be yelling.....................

"IT'S OVER 9000!"
 
2012-06-28 11:04:32 AM

John Paul Jones: There may be issues with Google Glass, but this reads like something someone will link to in 5 years to show how off-base the author was. Yaknow, Something like this.


This.
 
2012-06-28 11:07:14 AM

yves0010: Personally, I like the idea of having a HUD screen for a few good reasons.

1) Makes it easier to get things done on the go. Usually I have a check list on my phone / tablet so when I am out and about. I can keep track of what I need to do. With these glasses, its a good objective list.

2) An actual mini map like we see in gaming. Something like that, naturally not used during driving unless done correctly when it comes to visibility, could be really useful in not getting lost. This can also be used by malls and other entertainment centers like amusement parks. Download the map and you have everything literally displayed for you in your eye.

3) Add a camera on it and you can have a POV picture / video of whatever you want.

3.1) If they could get it to magnify / zoom with the camera and a PIP function. I would personally love it cause it would make reading motherboards easier.


The HUD is bad-freaking-ass. People can pontificate all they like, but a HUD in your glasses with all that functionality is the future.

Living in the age of science fiction becoming reality is pretty cool. I would give these a whirl.
 
2012-06-28 11:23:51 AM

pxlboy: yves0010: Personally, I like the idea of having a HUD screen for a few good reasons.

1) Makes it easier to get things done on the go. Usually I have a check list on my phone / tablet so when I am out and about. I can keep track of what I need to do. With these glasses, its a good objective list.

2) An actual mini map like we see in gaming. Something like that, naturally not used during driving unless done correctly when it comes to visibility, could be really useful in not getting lost. This can also be used by malls and other entertainment centers like amusement parks. Download the map and you have everything literally displayed for you in your eye.

3) Add a camera on it and you can have a POV picture / video of whatever you want.

3.1) If they could get it to magnify / zoom with the camera and a PIP function. I would personally love it cause it would make reading motherboards easier.

The HUD is bad-freaking-ass. People can pontificate all they like, but a HUD in your glasses with all that functionality is the future.

Living in the age of science fiction becoming reality is pretty cool. I would give these a whirl.


I love this too. I am a huge Star Trek fan and I watched the Star Trek special, How William Shatner Changed the World, was awesome. The idea that flip phones were invented cause of the Star Trek communicator is awesome. And I love the idea that I am living in the era where Sci Fi and reality are mixing.
 
2012-06-28 11:24:23 AM
Biggest problem is that people who need glasses can't use these. Even if you use contacts, focusing on the lens might be impossible.

Unless they figure out a way to forcibly focus the image on your retina directly I guess.

I'm waiting for Adam Jensen style glasses - slide in from implants at your temples.
 
2012-06-28 11:34:24 AM

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Biggest problem is that people who need glasses can't use these


You can focus a HUD out to infinity. A deeper issue, I think, is the solipsistic nature of the display. It'd be more useful if I could project the display out onto the world and share it with others. It's a much more powerful way to mediate reality than a mere HUD- and it's probably technologically more practical. There are physical limits to how small you can make a HUD projector, driven by the lenses required. If you remove it from the face and put it someplace where size isn't as much of a concern, I think you'll get more mileage.

I strongly suspect that a face-mounted HUD is going to end up being much like voice recognition: a cool idea that doesn't actually have much real-world value.
 
2012-06-28 11:38:53 AM

Mawson of the Antarctic: I for one am not looking forward to be inundated with POV videos from everyone in the world. I don't need a world where we think we're SOOOOOOO interesting that we need to look through other people's eyes at stuff... knowing full well that 95% of those feeds will look at the same things as everyone else.

The greatest technology in the world and we'll just end up looking at cats... hell, even robots do that now!


I dunno, I'd be fairly interested to check out a POV camera of a pro skater doing tricks on a vert ramp at the X-Games, a freerunner doing stunts for an afternoon, or a journalist in a war zone. I don't care about anyone else's mundane lives, either, but I'd be really interested in checking out first-hand video from things I could never do.
 
2012-06-28 11:47:28 AM

UrCa: Mawson of the Antarctic: I for one am not looking forward to be inundated with POV videos from everyone in the world. I don't need a world where we think we're SOOOOOOO interesting that we need to look through other people's eyes at stuff... knowing full well that 95% of those feeds will look at the same things as everyone else.

The greatest technology in the world and we'll just end up looking at cats... hell, even robots do that now!

I dunno, I'd be fairly interested to check out a POV camera of a pro skater doing tricks on a vert ramp at the X-Games, a freerunner doing stunts for an afternoon, or a journalist in a war zone. I don't care about anyone else's mundane lives, either, but I'd be really interested in checking out first-hand video from things I could never do.


I guess it would be like listening to a binaural recording where it's supposed to simulate how you would hear naturally if you were in the room with the sound source. I don't know, your examples seem good to me, but without the context of physically being in the air doing a skate trick I won't fully understand what's going on and it'll simply be interesting video. There's quite a few videos out there now where people are ziplining or jumping from planes with head cams and they're being marketed to people now cheaply, even.

We keep inventing these technologies to supplant the need to imagine and invent what these situations would be like. Fine, but we need to adapt and create new ways to imagine after the "magician's trick" has been revealed. For a majority of the population, reading has gone down because who needs to imagine scenarios when you can just watch the movie? Google glasses, or any kind of thing like it, will let us see what other's see, but it'll be like snapshotting through someone's life. We won't know what it's like to be them as their experience and information becomes fodder for our own.
 
2012-06-28 12:01:04 PM

UrCa: I'd be fairly interested to check out a POV camera of a pro skater doing tricks on a vert ramp at the X-Games, a freerunner doing stunts for an afternoon, or a journalist in a war zone


You can do this today. You already have a helmet on for pretty much all of those things. A helmet cam isn't a gigantic burden. Honestly, I don't think as-designed, Google Glasses are rugged enough for that.
 
2012-06-28 12:18:17 PM
Did ya'll see Google's f'ing AMAZING skydive demo from their keynote?

Google Glass Skydive Video

Yeah, I want this.
 
2012-06-28 01:04:50 PM
I'm waiting for Apple to claim that Steve Jobs scribbled this same idea on a napkin three years ago.
 
2012-06-28 01:07:19 PM
Wearable technology will never take off!

Excuse me while I check my wristwatch to see if its time for me to make a phone call on my bluetooth headset while I jog, listening to the ipod strapped to my arm.

Can't wait for this. I keep throwing my money at the google homepage, but nothing is happening.
 
2012-06-28 01:16:40 PM
FTFA: Having to physically sport some kind of kit - unless it is seamlessly worked into something you need to wear anyway.

Something I wear already.... you mean like my glasses?
 
2012-06-28 01:36:14 PM
I've been wondering if something like this may eventually replace the computer monitor. It seems like there could be some potential there. Essentially, I imagine a system where the glasses handle display function, your smart phone acting as middleman between the glasses and the cloud. Keyboard could be something like this, maybe?
static.ddmcdn.com
 
2012-06-28 01:50:46 PM
 
2012-06-28 01:58:04 PM

JinxofSpades: I've been wondering if something like this may eventually replace the computer monitor. It seems like there could be some potential there. Essentially, I imagine a system where the glasses handle display function, your smart phone acting as middleman between the glasses and the cloud. Keyboard could be something like this, maybe?
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Why would you project a keyboard when you have a display and camera already mounted on your head? Just overlay the keyboard over the video 'on' a surface and then track when the hands would interact with it.

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: I don't know that I want to be that 'connected'. Now if Google were to make some x-ray specs...


I can't find it, but someone did a cool demo a few years back where they had a 3d model of an area assembled from photos. Standing at any point and wearing the glasses, they would key on what you were looking at, map you to the model, then allow you to "see" through the walls to the streets and structures on the other side. Obviously not the same as live xray vision, but a similar effect.
 
2012-06-28 02:51:43 PM

t3knomanser: You can focus a HUD out to infinity. A deeper issue, I think, is the solipsistic nature of the display. It'd be more useful if I could project the display out onto the world and share it with others.


If everyone has HUDs and wireless communication, then they can just share video digitally, recomputed from different physical perspectives. Vinge calls it "consensus imagery".
 
2012-06-28 04:24:57 PM
After watching the video, I don't know if I want one or need it to help me meet my hipster scarf-wearing friend at the book store / coffee shop and help me find tickets for that indie band... but...

I just realized I REALLY want this to go jogging. REALLY bad. I get odd texts while I'm running and it would be nice to see it displayed to know whether it's worth slowing down for. And if I could see my running route, speed, distance and such in a HUD, that would be *awesome*.

I use CardioTrainer now, and I really like the audio for it - it announces speed and distance. A HUD would be even better.
 
2012-06-28 04:45:30 PM

jonny_q: After watching the video, I don't know if I want one or need it to help me meet my hipster scarf-wearing friend at the book store / coffee shop and help me find tickets for that indie band... but...

I just realized I REALLY want this to go jogging. REALLY bad. I get odd texts while I'm running and it would be nice to see it displayed to know whether it's worth slowing down for. And if I could see my running route, speed, distance and such in a HUD, that would be *awesome*.

I use CardioTrainer now, and I really like the audio for it - it announces speed and distance. A HUD would be even better.


You might want to keep an eye out for this when it comes out: Link. Not quite a HUD, but probably more accessible and available sooner.
 
2012-06-28 09:04:33 PM
I keep eyeing these AR glasses. I do urban hiking - long walks through the city. While I enjoy it, I also kind of resent that I can't do anything productive while I do it.

What I'd -really- like is some kind of mobile keyboard, so I could write code while I walk. Ah well, it's probably coming.
 
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