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(CNN)   Democrats will treat the Holder vote today with the respect and dignity that it deserves. Just kidding, actually they will increase partisan bickering and cry racism as they walk away from their day jobs   (politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com) divider line 186
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2012-06-28 10:23:33 AM

s2s2s2: HotWingConspiracy: Not so much shilling, just stating things plainly.

Plainly ≠ accurately. You should trade up. You could be doing both.

Philip Francis Queeg: True, you are a shill for David Koresh and those who murdered ATF agents.

Criticizing the ATF ≠ defending the BDs.


Defending David Koresh and the Branch Dividians = defending the Branch Dividians, which you have explicitly done.
 
2012-06-28 10:24:45 AM

ongbok: No matter what the DOJ did this would have been dragged out like bitherism were no matter what you give them, they won't be satisfied because it won't prove their point.


THIS. I can't fault Obama for refusing to play along on this after the embarrassment of the Birfer conspiracy. A birth certificate, a long-form certificate, testimony from Hawaiian officials, and two birth announcements in independent Hawaiian newspapers and they still can't let it go.

There's no reason to take anything these people say seriously. They cannot be reasoned with.
 
2012-06-28 10:25:48 AM
 
2012-06-28 10:28:53 AM

ongbok: No matter what the DOJ did this would have been dragged out like bitherism were no matter what you give them, they won't be satisfied because it won't prove their point


So since you think Republicans will make an issue out of it you think it is a good idea to make it a bigger deal by refusing to provide evidence of who knew what when? And on top of that the only person you will try and fire for the whole clusterfark is a whistleblower?

You are as bad as a birther.
 
2012-06-28 10:32:55 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: which you have explicitly done


[citation.plz]
 
2012-06-28 10:37:20 AM

s2s2s2: Philip Francis Queeg: which you have explicitly done

[citation.plz]


Sure thing!

s2s2s2: HotWingConspiracy: Koresh was clearly free of all responsibility to the kids he was farking

Oh, you didn't hear. There was no evidence he was diddling kids. That was just the excuse the ATF used to justify this shiat. Are you enjoying being a shill for the man?


Are you enjoying be a shill for a child molesting, murdering, psychopath?
 
2012-06-28 10:41:27 AM

ongbok: No matter what the DOJ did this would have been dragged out like bitherism were no matter what you give them, they won't be satisfied because it won't prove their point.


Thus the DOJ stonewall.

Issa: I want a big shiny investigation. Give me MOAR DOCUMENTS! I haz a FOIA!!
DOJ: Big Guy, what say you?
Obama: Give him some documents, I don't care.
Issa: Well, these don't show anything illegal/impeachable. MOAR DOCUMENTS!
Obama: This is getting tired. You know what, *Darrell*? Fark you. Make me.
Issa: AHA! Evidence of a coverup! You saw him covering things in an upward fashion just then? You saw that, didn't you?

// Darrell, Darrell, Darrell...
// loses something without the mocking tune
// who wants to go to the Capitol (or wherever his committee is hearing this travesty of a sham of a mockery) with me and get tossed form the chamber for chanting that, preferably during a F&F hearing?
 
2012-06-28 10:41:27 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: Are you enjoying be a shill for a child molesting, murdering, psychopath?


Do you have evidence for the child molestation, murdering, or being a psychopath?
 
2012-06-28 10:41:43 AM

liam76:
So since you think Republicans will make an issue out of it you think it is a good idea to make it a bigger deal by refusing to provide evidence of who knew what when?


"Give us what we want or we'll tantrum even harder."
 
2012-06-28 10:42:44 AM

Dr Dreidel: Obama: Give him some pieces of paper with large black rectangles on them, I don't care


FTFY
 
2012-06-28 10:44:58 AM

s2s2s2: Philip Francis Queeg: Are you enjoying be a shill for a child molesting, murdering, psychopath?

Do you have evidence for the child molestation, murdering, or being a psychopath?


See, this is defending the Branch Dividians.

As for evidence, 4 ATF agents were shot dead while legally serving a search warrant. That's murder. Murder you are defending.
 
2012-06-28 10:48:47 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: Murder you are defending.


Nope.
 
2012-06-28 10:58:44 AM

s2s2s2: Dr Dreidel: Obama: Give him some pieces of paper with large black rectangles on them, I don't care

FTFY


Sure. That works too.

// EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE LOL
// That impotent rage you're feeling? Get used to it. EP is shorthand for "get people so pissed they can't see straight"
 
2012-06-28 11:01:19 AM

Dr Dreidel: That impotent rage you're feeling?


Nope. I'm not all that concerned about this. I just like watching people bend over backwards to defend(based on a letter by a name) things they'd normally abhor(based on a letter by a name).
 
2012-06-28 11:06:01 AM

liam76: If fast and furious was so innocious and they couldn't have arrested or stopped any of the straw purchasers (even after they re-sold guns or tried to cross the border, and nvermind they have done it before and since for that) why didn't that come up in congressional testinony? Why are so many ATF officials on record about the bump in guns coming into Mexico from thePheonix area during F&F?


Did you actually provide a link to a GOP congressional smear piece?
 
2012-06-28 11:12:57 AM

Dinki: liam76: If fast and furious was so innocious and they couldn't have arrested or stopped any of the straw purchasers (even after they re-sold guns or tried to cross the border, and nvermind they have done it before and since for that) why didn't that come up in congressional testinony? Why are so many ATF officials on record about the bump in guns coming into Mexico from thePheonix area during F&F?

Did you actually provide a link to a GOP congressional smear piece?


in pdf too.
 
2012-06-28 11:22:08 AM

Dinki: liam76: If fast and furious was so innocious and they couldn't have arrested or stopped any of the straw purchasers (even after they re-sold guns or tried to cross the border, and nvermind they have done it before and since for that) why didn't that come up in congressional testinony? Why are so many ATF officials on record about the bump in guns coming into Mexico from thePheonix area during F&F?

Did you actually provide a link to a GOP congressional smear piece?


So sworn testimony of ATF agents in a congressional hearing doesn't work for you since the hearings were headed up by a republican?

If you want to present some proof that Federal Prosecuters said ATF couldn't arrest straw purchasers after they re-sold guns or tried to cross the border I would be interested in seeing it, but until that happens I am fine using the info int his "hit piece" (sworn testimony of ATF agents in a congressional hearing) vice the hit pieces I have sen so far with no evidence backing them up.
 
2012-06-28 11:42:27 AM

s2s2s2: Philip Francis Queeg: Murder you are defending.

Nope.


Yep.
 
2012-06-28 11:46:34 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: s2s2s2: Philip Francis Queeg: Murder you are defending.

Nope.

Yep.


No.
 
2012-06-28 11:46:52 AM

Mrbogey: xnecron: Sounds like Democrats will treat the Holder vote today with the respect and dignity that it deserves.

This is what partisan Democrats actually believe.


And we know, of course, that only Democrats are partisan.
 
2012-06-28 11:48:42 AM

s2s2s2: Philip Francis Queeg: s2s2s2: Philip Francis Queeg: Murder you are defending.

Nope.

Yep.

No.


So then you admit that David Koresh and the Branch Dividians were murders and condemn those acts of murder?
 
2012-06-28 12:05:28 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: So then you admit that David Koresh and the Branch Dividians were murders and condemn those acts of murder?


I haven't defended the killing of the ATF agents. There is no reason to admit or deny they were murdered.
 
2012-06-28 12:07:27 PM

s2s2s2: Philip Francis Queeg: So then you admit that David Koresh and the Branch Dividians were murders and condemn those acts of murder?

I haven't defended the killing of the ATF agents. There is no reason to admit or deny they were murdered.


Wow, that's amazingly gutless.
 
2012-06-28 12:21:58 PM

liam76: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: The NRA wants AG held in contempt because the ATF did NOT prohibit gun sales.

Two years from now the fallout will be backlash against Congress(which is why they're trying to hide the vote behind the SCOTUS ruling) and greater focus on AZ's lax gun sales laws(sorry, NRA, but you asked for it).

You know the ATF enforces federal gun laws, right?


Doesn't matter. Issa's "investigation" still draws attention to ARIZONA gun laws. I'll bet most of the people in this thread had no idea what their laws were like.

You just go ahead and stand your ground.
 
2012-06-28 01:55:26 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: Wow, that's amazingly gutless.


Yeah, that's an apt description for using the deaths of 4 ATF agents to deflect.
 
2012-06-28 01:57:01 PM

DyslexNick: How do you increase the partisanship of a political witch hunt?


Which hunt! Drink!
 
2012-06-28 01:57:36 PM
Lol autocorrect
 
2012-06-28 02:00:23 PM

s2s2s2: Philip Francis Queeg: Wow, that's amazingly gutless.

Yeah, that's an apt description for using the deaths of 4 ATF agents to deflect.


Who raised the Branch Dividian issue? Oh, that's right, it was you.
 
2012-06-28 02:07:31 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: Who raised the Branch Dividian issue? Oh, that's right, it was you.


Let's check that for context:

s2s2s2: qorkfiend: Yeah. They didn't have enough evidence to make arrests.

Yeah, the ATF is known for their restraint regarding gun buyers.
[geektyrant.com image 470x300]


Catch that goose, yet?
 
2012-06-28 02:10:56 PM

s2s2s2: Philip Francis Queeg: Who raised the Branch Dividian issue? Oh, that's right, it was you.

Let's check that for context:
s2s2s2: qorkfiend: Yeah. They didn't have enough evidence to make arrests.

Yeah, the ATF is known for their restraint regarding gun buyers.
[geektyrant.com image 470x300]

Catch that goose, yet?


Yep, that was in fact where YOU raised the Branch Dividian issue to deflect, in a really shameless, gutless way.

Do you enjoy showing how pathetic you really are? Is it some sort of masochistic thing?
 
2012-06-28 02:13:23 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: issue to deflect


No. I brought it up because the tone of the argument is to point at the past to excuse the present.

Philip Francis Queeg: Do you enjoy showing how pathetic you really are? Is it some sort of masochistic thing?


It's your fantasy. Live it up.
 
2012-06-28 02:20:38 PM

s2s2s2: No. I brought it up because the tone of the argument is to point at the past to excuse the present.


Yes, that is your tone. It is the way that you tried to deflect from the issue of why the ATF did not make arrests. It is really pathetic and gutless.

Time for you to quit posting. You look foolish enough already.
 
2012-06-28 03:03:42 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: s2s2s2: No. I brought it up because the tone of the argument is to point at the past to excuse the present.

Yes, that is your tone.


Philip Francis Queeg: You look foolish enough already.


I totally do, but then perception can be a biatch, can't it?
 
2012-06-28 09:24:00 PM
Because Republicans have NEVER walked out.

Oh, wait...

/fark you subby, punkass
 
2012-06-29 06:53:14 AM

AuBricker: And we know, of course, that only Democrats are partisan.


Fallacious conclusion from statement made. In this case the support of Holder is primarily partisan driven. It sure isn't evidence driven.
 
2012-06-29 10:24:58 AM

Mrbogey: AuBricker: And we know, of course, that only Democrats are partisan.

Fallacious conclusion from statement made. In this case the support of Holder is primarily partisan driven. It sure isn't evidence driven.


Pray make your case. Now Congress has voted Holder in contempt because of a NRA conspiracy theory alleging that he intentionally passed weapons to criminals so as to muster support of a secret Obama plan to confiscate privately owned handguns following his reelection.

Now do you suggest we immediately hurl Holder into a chicken-wire holding cell at Guantanamo Bay and impeach Obama without further ado, or should we wait for the nutcases making these claims to show some evidence first?

Oh. I forgot. The accused are black men. There is a lower standard of proof required now. Continue, Torquemada: When you have certainty, who needs evidence?
 
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