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(Entertainment Weekly)   Sequels, prequels, reboots and reimaginings are so 2009. Welcome to Hollywood's new idea: "Paraquels"   (insidemovies.ew.com) divider line 30
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2012-06-28 02:10:08 AM
Didn't the "Saw" series already do this and show how bad it was?
 
2012-06-28 08:40:40 AM
I watched True Grit a couple weeks ago for the first time, (good flick!) and as the credits rolled I noticed Matt Damon's name. I was like, wait what? Matt Damon was in this movie?

Then I looked back and was like wow, I never noticed that dude was Matt Damon, he's only in every other scene.

Better actor than I knew. If I watch it again I'll be too distracted to appreciate it now.
 
2012-06-28 08:53:51 AM

Confabulat: I watched True Grit a couple weeks ago for the first time, (good flick!) and as the credits rolled I noticed Matt Damon's name. I was like, wait what? Matt Damon was in this movie?

Then I looked back and was like wow, I never noticed that dude was Matt Damon, he's only in every other scene.

Better actor than I knew. If I watch it again I'll be too distracted to appreciate it now.


Matt Damon has taken to acting under the name Ben Affleck in lesser roles. You would be surprised at the number of people who think that they are really two different actors.
 
2012-06-28 09:01:03 AM
Dibs on the "epiquel"
 
2012-06-28 09:01:17 AM
Man, Hollywood is so great. Anything...any shred or glint or spark of real, genuine interest or enjoyment from the public, and they just backup the dump truck and start plungering it down our throats.
 
2012-06-28 09:03:48 AM

Cheron: Confabulat: I watched True Grit a couple weeks ago for the first time, (good flick!) and as the credits rolled I noticed Matt Damon's name. I was like, wait what? Matt Damon was in this movie?

Then I looked back and was like wow, I never noticed that dude was Matt Damon, he's only in every other scene.

Better actor than I knew. If I watch it again I'll be too distracted to appreciate it now.

Matt Damon has taken to acting under the name Ben Affleck in lesser roles. You would be surprised at the number of people who think that they are really two different actors.


he may even be a greater actor than fred savage!

and yes, the cohen brothers' true grit was great! i'd say even better than the original, and the original was the ONLY john wayne movie i liked!
 
2012-06-28 09:11:07 AM

Fano: Dibs on the "epiquel"


I'm taking "Superquel" and "Megaquel".
 
2012-06-28 09:12:27 AM
"Paraquels" have succeeded on the small screen(Star Trek: Deep Space Nine,Stargate:Atlantis). The multiplex is another matter entirely.
 
2012-06-28 09:13:09 AM
So, the same characters but without legs?
 
2012-06-28 09:14:00 AM

jayhawk88: Man, Hollywood is so great. Anything...any shred or glint or spark of real, genuine interest or enjoyment from the public, and they just backup the dump truck and start plungering it down our throats.


And they always, ALWAYS, fail to understand what actually made something a hit (usually a good story, compellingly told) and only use the most visible and easily reproducible aspects (usually Shia LaBeouf).
 
2012-06-28 09:20:34 AM

Apos: "Paraquels" have succeeded on the small screen(Star Trek: Deep Space Nine,Stargate:Atlantis). The multiplex is another matter entirely.


The problem there is most movies try and more or less tell a whole story in one sitting. That is starting to change with the successes of movie 'arcs', like Star Wars, LOTR, Harry Potter, etc.

If the studios could plan for it correctly, I think it would work. The would need to do an 'introduction' movie, setting the stage, and meeting a few of the characters. Then 3-4 movies where key players are in different places doing their own things, but helping to advance the storyline. Finally a movie to bring all the characters back together and wrap up the overall arc.
 
2012-06-28 09:23:41 AM
As long as the stories are interesting and compelling, i'm fine with this. however, too often the follow up or side stories suck it...
 
2012-06-28 09:24:34 AM

Slives: Apos: "Paraquels" have succeeded on the small screen(Star Trek: Deep Space Nine,Stargate:Atlantis). The multiplex is another matter entirely.

The problem there is most movies try and more or less tell a whole story in one sitting. That is starting to change with the successes of movie 'arcs', like Star Wars, LOTR, Harry Potter, etc.

If the studios could plan for it correctly, I think it would work. The would need to do an 'introduction' movie, setting the stage, and meeting a few of the characters. Then 3-4 movies where key players are in different places doing their own things, but helping to advance the storyline. Finally a movie to bring all the characters back together and wrap up the overall arc.


So pretty much exactly what Marvel is doing with the Avengers.
 
2012-06-28 09:25:39 AM

Slives: Apos: "Paraquels" have succeeded on the small screen(Star Trek: Deep Space Nine,Stargate:Atlantis). The multiplex is another matter entirely.

The problem there is most movies try and more or less tell a whole story in one sitting. That is starting to change with the successes of movie 'arcs', like Star Wars, LOTR, Harry Potter, etc.

If the studios could plan for it correctly, I think it would work. The would need to do an 'introduction' movie, setting the stage, and meeting a few of the characters. Then 3-4 movies where key players are in different places doing their own things, but helping to advance the storyline. Finally a movie to bring all the characters back together and wrap up the overall arc.


You mean, like The Avengers? Which isn't even mentioned in the article... or does that not qualify for some reason?
 
2012-06-28 09:35:57 AM

Confabulat: I watched True Grit a couple weeks ago for the first time, (good flick!) and as the credits rolled I noticed Matt Damon's name. I was like, wait what? Matt Damon was in this movie?

Then I looked back and was like wow, I never noticed that dude was Matt Damon, he's only in every other scene.

Better actor than I knew. If I watch it again I'll be too distracted to appreciate it now.


matt has always been a good actor. surprised you never noticed. ben affleck is the shiatty one.
 
2012-06-28 09:39:50 AM

frepnog: Confabulat: I watched True Grit a couple weeks ago for the first time, (good flick!) and as the credits rolled I noticed Matt Damon's name. I was like, wait what? Matt Damon was in this movie?

Then I looked back and was like wow, I never noticed that dude was Matt Damon, he's only in every other scene.

Better actor than I knew. If I watch it again I'll be too distracted to appreciate it now.

matt has always been a good actor. surprised you never noticed. ben affleck is the shiatty one.


i never really think much about matt...until i start to watch one of his movies or see him make a cameo appearance in a tv show...then i realize he's been in about 10000 movies covering roles in drama, comedy, action, etc...and he's written and/or directed/produced a lot of them. and he's been good in all of them!

and yes he was almost unrecognizable in true grit. i'd known he was in it, but it took me about 10 minutes of lebouf's onscreen time to realize that was damon!

just like in eurotrip i didn't know till the credits that the singer of that band doing "scottie doesn't know" was damon
 
2012-06-28 09:51:02 AM
I like a good stand-alone action/sci-fi film as much as anyone else, but when there are "franchises", it's actually a good idea to use other movies to expand the scope a little.

In the Bourne "universe", we know there are other super-spy assassins than Bourne, and that the program that created him was shut down. It stands to reason that there are other stories out there than Bourne's.

And those movies were pretty entertaining spy-fi flicks (shaky-cam aside), so why not expand a bit and show another character dealing with the fallout from Treadstone & Blackbriar?

Seems more plausible than "one of them went rogue, so we killed all of them, but this one guy keeps getting away," right? I mean, if you assassinate the assassin, you have to assassinate the assassin's assassin, and so on ... pretty soon that gets old, because it's just a long line of cookie-cutter villains to throw at a hero that ultimately triumphs ... because he has to, because without him there is no "franchise".

Well, not any more - Hollywood is figuring out how they can permanently kill a lead character now, which means the stakes can be raised, and - potentially - better movies can be made.
 
2012-06-28 10:10:23 AM

Lernaeus: I like a good stand-alone action/sci-fi film as much as anyone else, but when there are "franchises", it's actually a good idea to use other movies to expand the scope a little.

In the Bourne "universe", we know there are other super-spy assassins than Bourne, and that the program that created him was shut down. It stands to reason that there are other stories out there than Bourne's.

And those movies were pretty entertaining spy-fi flicks (shaky-cam aside), so why not expand a bit and show another character dealing with the fallout from Treadstone & Blackbriar?

Seems more plausible than "one of them went rogue, so we killed all of them, but this one guy keeps getting away," right? I mean, if you assassinate the assassin, you have to assassinate the assassin's assassin, and so on ... pretty soon that gets old, because it's just a long line of cookie-cutter villains to throw at a hero that ultimately triumphs ... because he has to, because without him there is no "franchise".

Well, not any more - Hollywood is figuring out how they can permanently kill a lead character now, which means the stakes can be raised, and - potentially - better movies can be made.


without Matt, no one will care and the new film will fail. hide and watch.
 
2012-06-28 10:56:38 AM

dittybopper: Fano: Dibs on the "epiquel"

I'm taking "Superquel" and "Megaquel".


Just how bad is your cold?
 
2012-06-28 12:31:36 PM

frepnog: Confabulat: I watched True Grit a couple weeks ago for the first time, (good flick!) and as the credits rolled I noticed Matt Damon's name. I was like, wait what? Matt Damon was in this movie?

Then I looked back and was like wow, I never noticed that dude was Matt Damon, he's only in every other scene.

Better actor than I knew. If I watch it again I'll be too distracted to appreciate it now.

matt has always been a good actor. surprised you never noticed. ben affleck is the shiatty one.


And yet, a promising director with a pretty good (albeit short) directing resume.
 
2012-06-28 12:49:58 PM

Confabulat: I watched True Grit a couple weeks ago for the first time, (good flick!) and as the credits rolled I noticed Matt Damon's name. I was like, wait what? Matt Damon was in this movie?

Then I looked back and was like wow, I never noticed that dude was Matt Damon, he's only in every other scene.

Better actor than I knew. If I watch it again I'll be too distracted to appreciate it now.


About halfway through True Grit, my friend whispered to me that Matt Damon was basically doing his Matthew McConaughey impression the whole movie after that I could see nothing else.
 
2012-06-28 01:03:36 PM

rynthetyn: Confabulat: I watched True Grit a couple weeks ago for the first time, (good flick!) and as the credits rolled I noticed Matt Damon's name. I was like, wait what? Matt Damon was in this movie?

Then I looked back and was like wow, I never noticed that dude was Matt Damon, he's only in every other scene.

Better actor than I knew. If I watch it again I'll be too distracted to appreciate it now.

About halfway through True Grit, my friend whispered to me that Matt Damon was basically doing his Matthew McConaughey impression the whole movie after that I could see nothing else.


Yeah I can see that. It was nice not recognizing him. I got to enjoy the performance instead of the usual snark. I think Jeff Bridges did a good job too but I couldn't quite shake Big Lebowski thinking thoughts.
 
2012-06-28 01:33:39 PM

Matt Foley: frepnog: Confabulat: I watched True Grit a couple weeks ago for the first time, (good flick!) and as the credits rolled I noticed Matt Damon's name. I was like, wait what? Matt Damon was in this movie?

Then I looked back and was like wow, I never noticed that dude was Matt Damon, he's only in every other scene.

Better actor than I knew. If I watch it again I'll be too distracted to appreciate it now.

matt has always been a good actor. surprised you never noticed. ben affleck is the shiatty one.

And yet, a promising director with a pretty good (albeit short) directing resume.


agreed. he is ok behind the camera. i just can't watch him in front of it.

well, except dogma. well, and baysplosionmageddon. but that film is a guilty pleasure.
 
2012-06-28 01:45:12 PM
So it's like James Bond.
 
2012-06-28 03:30:58 PM
What if one were to write a script based on an entirely new story?
 
2012-06-28 04:08:16 PM

bungle_jr: just like in eurotrip i didn't know till the credits that the singer of that band doing "scottie doesn't know" was damon


That scene musta been kinda nonsensical to you since that was pretty much the joke.
 
2012-06-28 06:00:55 PM

frepnog: Lernaeus: I like a good stand-alone action/sci-fi film as much as anyone else, but when there are "franchises", it's actually a good idea to use other movies to expand the scope a little.

In the Bourne "universe", we know there are other super-spy assassins than Bourne, and that the program that created him was shut down. It stands to reason that there are other stories out there than Bourne's.

And those movies were pretty entertaining spy-fi flicks (shaky-cam aside), so why not expand a bit and show another character dealing with the fallout from Treadstone & Blackbriar?

Seems more plausible than "one of them went rogue, so we killed all of them, but this one guy keeps getting away," right? I mean, if you assassinate the assassin, you have to assassinate the assassin's assassin, and so on ... pretty soon that gets old, because it's just a long line of cookie-cutter villains to throw at a hero that ultimately triumphs ... because he has to, because without him there is no "franchise".

Well, not any more - Hollywood is figuring out how they can permanently kill a lead character now, which means the stakes can be raised, and - potentially - better movies can be made.

without Matt, no one will care and the new film will fail. hide and watch.


It'll do fine.

Better than Safehouse, I'm sure.
 
2012-06-28 08:33:17 PM
In other words, Hollywood is cribbing yet another technique from the world of comics?
 
2012-06-28 08:38:56 PM
New idea? Heh.

Welcome to...

...twenty years too late...

...Hollywood.
 
2012-07-01 04:54:10 PM
Whereas King takes it a step further...

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