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(Some Guy)   This just in: Obama has lost the Canadian vote. But the other 56 states look pretty good   (ipolitics.ca) divider line 93
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2012-06-28 07:34:19 AM  
Oh FFS! You're going to get your silly little pipeline. You just do not get to skip all the environmental studies and other regulatory requirements. We do not have strained relations with Canada.
 
2012-06-28 07:46:08 AM  
Great headline Subby. +1
 
2012-06-28 07:47:58 AM  
...as written by a Canadian Oil Executive.
 
2012-06-28 07:56:29 AM  
ah, yes. keystone. the pipeline that will traverse america to bring canadian oil to china, while increasing gas prices in the american midwest! how can that not be awesome??? after all, it'll create, what, 200,000 20,000 2,000 jobs!
 
2012-06-28 08:02:23 AM  
"Relations are at their lowest point"

...wasn't that during that whole pine lumber thing like six years ago?
 
2012-06-28 08:44:22 AM  
59 states, submitter. 59.
 
2012-06-28 08:52:51 AM  
We're supposed to take a country that elected Stevie McSweatervest seriously?
 
2012-06-28 09:05:16 AM  

sammyk: Oh FFS! You're going to get your silly little pipeline. You just do not get to skip all the environmental studies and other regulatory requirements. We do not have strained relations with Canada.


Alternately, we can just let them build the pipeline without those silly regulations and let the pipes burst into aquifers that will ruin farmer's lives forever. Those farmers will still vote Republican because Jesus and subsidies, so who cares? Anyone who's rich can just import bread and corn from another country.
 
2012-06-28 09:07:29 AM  
unlikely: ...wasn't that during that whole pine lumber thing like six years ago?

This.

Or the mad-cow beef embargo.

Or our refusal to go in Iraq.

Canada and the US are like an old married couple. They constantly bicker about the silliest things, but deep down, they both know that they can't live without the other.
 
2012-06-28 09:08:06 AM  

BillCo: Great headline Subby. +1


If headlines like this dont show how simple minded Republicans are, I dont know what will.

/Vote Republican
 
2012-06-28 09:08:22 AM  
So, a Canadian oil magnate is unhappy that Obama didn't approve Keystone? This is my shocked face.
 
2012-06-28 09:08:47 AM  
Is it just me, or is this article coming up in a really skinny column way at the bottom of the page? I usually have NotScripts turned on but it looks like this even when I open it up in Incognito mode. Maybe it just doesn't like Chrome?
 
2012-06-28 09:10:16 AM  

Sock Ruh Tease: sammyk: Oh FFS! You're going to get your silly little pipeline. You just do not get to skip all the environmental studies and other regulatory requirements. We do not have strained relations with Canada.

Alternately, we can just let them build the pipeline without those silly regulations and let the pipes burst into aquifers that will ruin farmer's lives forever. Those farmers will still vote Republican because Jesus and subsidies, so who cares? Anyone who's rich can just import bread and corn from another country.


The sad thing is that this is very believable. Then they will turn around and complain about how the libs didn't stop them.
 
2012-06-28 09:10:49 AM  
By not bending over backwards to let a foreign Canadian oil company exploit the U.S. by building a pipeling across the entire country so they can get their oil to Gulf Coast refineries in order to sell to the European market? It's almost as if Obama holds the United States above oil companies...the bastard!

/Didn't read article, just guessing
 
2012-06-28 09:12:32 AM  
Good. Anything that pisses off those smug 3-down, 110 yard field, give teams points for touchback Canucks sounds good to me.
 
2012-06-28 09:12:51 AM  

unlikely: "Relations are at their lowest point"

...wasn't that during that whole pine lumber thing like six years ago?


I'm pretty sure relations were kinda bad when the U.S. invaded Canada and then they/the British burned down the White House in '12

/1812 that is....
 
2012-06-28 09:13:02 AM  
Lost Canada? I, for one, would trade Harper to get Obama up here in a second.
 
2012-06-28 09:13:52 AM  
The very fact that this non-issue non-gaffe keeps coming up shows they got nothing.

OMG 57 states. The magna cum laude harvard law graduate said we have 57 STATES! He doesn't even know how many STATES we have! What a moron!
 
2012-06-28 09:15:26 AM  
WE GET IT- HE'S BLACK, EH?
 
2012-06-28 09:16:43 AM  

sammyk: Oh FFS! You're going to get your silly little pipeline. You just do not get to skip all the environmental studies and other regulatory requirements. We do not have strained relations with Canada.


Canada loves Obama and America. The Conservative Government in Canada is about as popular as herpes right not. The only reason they are in power is because we have two parties splitting the Liberal vote. They day these parties merge or one is eliminated, you will never see another Conservative in power again.
 
2012-06-28 09:16:43 AM  
Oh pffft. Subby, I see your TransCanada whargarble and raise you this.

Barack Obama is more popular among Canadian voters than Stephen Harper is.
 
2012-06-28 09:17:23 AM  

NateGrey: BillCo: Great headline Subby. +1

If headlines like this dont show how simple minded Republicans are, I dont know what will.

/Vote Republican


They can't even get it right. It should be a total of 60 states.

"... it is just wonderful to be back in Oregon, and over the last 15 months we've traveled to every corner of the United States. I've now been in fifty .... seven states? I think one left to go. One left to go. Alaska and Hawaii, I was not allowed to go to even though I really wanted to visit but my staff would not justify it."
 
2012-06-28 09:18:00 AM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: We're supposed to take a country that elected Stevie McSweatervest seriously?


We still had to take you seriously when you elected a coked up frat boy.
 
2012-06-28 09:18:29 AM  

unlikely: "Relations are at their lowest point"

...wasn't that during that whole pine lumber thing like six years ago?


The only time the US dipped into the "wtf is their problem" category for me is when the re-elected Bush. Generally speaking, Canadians love/like their big brother even though he is an asshole sometimes (see previous sentence).
 
2012-06-28 09:20:56 AM  
Really? When I talk to my Canadian relatives, what I get from them is "WTF is wrong with your country that someone as much of an empty suit as Romney can even come close to the White House?" They love Obama. They're not oil magnates tho, so there's that.

/Yes, the article came up in a very narrow column at the bottom of the page, I couldn't stand to read it... especially after sifting through some of the comments there.
//Linux/firefox user
///slashies
 
2012-06-28 09:23:03 AM  
I'm sure the foreign oil executive only has the deepest concern for our country
 
2012-06-28 09:23:43 AM  
The GOP is grasping at straws when all they are comming up with are the fact that Obama isn't bending over backwards to big oil and yesterdays college homework critique.

If the GOP had any sense they'd realize that Mitt is a losing bet and put all of the election year $$$ into taking congress in huge numbers. Too many of the GOP base have been brainwashed into thinking that Obama is evil incarnate to figure this out though, so 4 more years of tea baggers with their panties in a buch because a black man is in the white house.
 
2012-06-28 09:23:53 AM  

sammyk: We do not have strained relations with Canada.


This. What a bunch of nonsense.
 
2012-06-28 09:23:54 AM  

Citrate1007: By not bending over backwards to let a foreign Canadian oil company exploit the U.S. by building a pipeling across the entire country so they can get their oil to Gulf Coast refineries in order to sell to the European market? It's almost as if Obama holds the United States above oil companies...the bastard!

/Didn't read article, just guessing


you guessed right. As a Canadian I like the idea of the Keystone pipeline going across the US because the alternative is that it will go across or pristine Pacific coast and increase the chances of tanker spills on the coast in addition to pipeline spills.

As an American, you would have to be an idiot to support the pipeline. There is no risk of oil leaks, there is an absolute guarantee of frequent leaks. They even know roughly how many by year you will have. Having said that, please build it because we would like the additional revenue even though our economy is pretty good.
 
2012-06-28 09:25:58 AM  

mrshowrules: unlikely: "Relations are at their lowest point"

...wasn't that during that whole pine lumber thing like six years ago?

The only time the US dipped into the "wtf is their problem" category for me is when the re-elected Bush. Generally speaking, Canadians love/like their big brother even though he is an asshole sometimes (see previous sentence).


Speaking as an American, I think there's a lot we can learn from our friends to the North.
 
2012-06-28 09:26:07 AM  
Yeah. Ok. Keep on believing it.

Find me ONE Canadian with a net worth of less than five million dollars who would vote for Romney over Obama if they had the ability.
 
2012-06-28 09:26:29 AM  
WHY WONT ODUMBO BUILD THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE!?!?!?

I guess having a reliable source of cheap energy is something he hates!!!!
 
2012-06-28 09:26:57 AM  

mrshowrules: Citrate1007: By not bending over backwards to let a foreign Canadian oil company exploit the U.S. by building a pipeling across the entire country so they can get their oil to Gulf Coast refineries in order to sell to the European market? It's almost as if Obama holds the United States above oil companies...the bastard!

/Didn't read article, just guessing

you guessed right. As a Canadian I like the idea of the Keystone pipeline going across the US because the alternative is that it will go across or pristine Pacific coast and increase the chances of tanker spills on the coast in addition to pipeline spills.

As an American, you would have to be an idiot to support the pipeline. There is no risk of oil leaks, there is an absolute guarantee of frequent leaks. They even know roughly how many by year you will have. Having said that, please build it because we would like the additional revenue even though our economy is pretty good.


We call them republicans.
 
2012-06-28 09:27:00 AM  

mediaho: NateGrey: BillCo: Great headline Subby. +1

If headlines like this dont show how simple minded Republicans are, I dont know what will.

/Vote Republican

They can't even get it right. It should be a total of 60 states.

"... it is just wonderful to be back in Oregon, and over the last 15 months we've traveled to every corner of the United States. I've now been in fifty .... seven states? I think one left to go. One left to go. Alaska and Hawaii, I was not allowed to go to even though I really wanted to visit but my staff would not justify it."


It is almost like he only says it to be a bitter attention whore.
 
2012-06-28 09:27:07 AM  
Stopped reading as soon as I saw "keystone xl"
 
2012-06-28 09:27:58 AM  

apoptotic: Oh pffft. Subby, I see your TransCanada whargarble and raise you this.

Barack Obama is more popular among Canadian voters than Stephen Harper is.


I would have guessed that. When Obama visited Ottawa I think most women would have voluntarily granted him the right of "jus primae noctis" with the men folk in full agreement.
 
2012-06-28 09:28:16 AM  
Saw keystone in the author's bio, closed it.

He doesn't represent Canada.
 
2012-06-28 09:29:37 AM  
Dammit, I haven't had to think about this stupid pipeline in a month.

First you need to pick a path. I know this is hard since some republican governors are going "not in my backyard" and you want this to look like Obama is blocking you to be a troll.

Second you need to put in all the impact studies in along with your disaster plans, and this takes time and money. since this is oil over an aquifer only a group of immoral asshats will try to get around it. since one screw up could cripple the farming in that area.

Third, lots and lots of eminent domain court cases. Well the ones you will need to force because the land owners wont sell.

and lastly

You get to build it.



OR


Obama a wave his magic wand and construction begins 10 days ago!
 
2012-06-28 09:29:46 AM  

FlashHarry: ah, yes. keystone. the pipeline that will traverse america to bring canadian oil to china, while increasing gas prices in the american midwest! how can that not be awesome??? after all, it'll create, what, 200,000 20,000 2,000 jobs!


And not just 2000 jobs, but 2000 temporary jobs. This will solve all of our economic woes overnight! What kind of libtards would care about something as trivial as permanently raising food prices on a global scale...
 
2012-06-28 09:31:01 AM  

CPennypacker: The very fact that this non-issue non-gaffe keeps coming up shows they got nothing.

OMG 57 states. The magna cum laude harvard law graduate said we have 57 STATES! He doesn't even know how many STATES we have! What a moron!


Troll = fed.
 
2012-06-28 09:31:44 AM  
Respected polling firm Angus Reid supplies these recent numbers:

KEY FINDINGS

60% in Canada believe that having Barack Obama as President of the United States has been "very good" or "good" for their country.

65% of Canadians say they would vote for Obama if they could take part in this year's United States Presidential Election. Governor Romney is polling in single digits.

The President would receive the support of people who voted for the 5 parties represented in the House of Commons according to the following breakdown by party (roughly from political 'left' to 'right'...there isn't a lot of daylight between the Greens/BQ/NDP):

Green Party (77%)
Bloc Québécois (67%)
New Democratic Party (NDP) (71%)
Liberal Party supporters (59%)
Conservative voters in Canada would pick Obama over Romney by a 2-to-1 margin (51% to 25%).


So in some respects he is down from a Clintonesque 85% 'voting preference' but 65% is still, you know, not bad - especially since Romney polled at 9% (the rest didn't know/care).
 
2012-06-28 09:32:10 AM  
The project posed little risk to the landscape it traversed.

Ordinarily this is where I'd stop reading but go on...

But instead of acting on economic logic, the Obama administration caved to environmental activists in November 2011, postponing until 2013 the decision on whether to allow the pipeline.

Oh, FFS, shoulda gone with my first instinct. Does it get worse?

Obama's choice marked a triumph of campaign posturing over pragmatism and diplomacy, and it brought U.S.-Canadian relations to their lowest point in decades.

*head desk*

Gonna just leave this here...

He hurt the development of the oil sand industry when he nixed the Keystone Pipeline deal; he chose not to stand-up for Canada when the Senate and House were debating "buy-America" provisions; and it appears he's holding up Canada's formal inclusion into a new free-trade group of Pacific Rim countries.
Despite all this, Canadians' love affair with U.S. President Barack Obama continues.
According to a new poll by Angus Reid, 65 per cent of Canadian respondents said, that if they could, they would cast a ballot for Obama. A not-so-whopping 9 per cent would go with Republican challenger Mitt Romney. The rest were undecided.


We're a very pragmatic people as a rule.

/Unless hockey or Crown Royal is involved in which case all bets are off.
//Go 'Nucks!
 
2012-06-28 09:32:40 AM  
As a Canadian/America, I can say most Canadians (65% plus) don't support the current government or its war on the environment/science. Here is a primer on Harper and what they are doing:

http://www.ipolitics.ca/2012/06/27/michael-harris-harper-hurts-scienc e /

How this means Canadians (besides the greedy oil sucking conservatives) wouldn't vote for Obama is beyond me.
 
2012-06-28 09:36:16 AM  

devek: Saw keystone in the author's bio, closed it.

He doesn't represent Canada.


I'd even venture to guess he might get a stern talking to from TransCanada. They never asked to have Keystone fastracked in the first place and everyone that's "defending" them is just making their lives more difficult.
 
2012-06-28 09:36:31 AM  

TIKIMAN87: WHY WONT ODUMBO BUILD THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE!?!?!?


Because all the studies haven't been completed, nor has an exact route been determined?

Feel free to explain how oil destined for Asia helps the average American, as well...
 
2012-06-28 09:36:31 AM  

Garaba: Dammit, I haven't had to think about this stupid pipeline in a month.

First you need to pick a path. I know this is hard since some republican governors are going "not in my backyard" and you want this to look like Obama is blocking you to be a troll.

Second you need to put in all the impact studies in along with your disaster plans, and this takes time and money. since this is oil over an aquifer only a group of immoral asshats will try to get around it. since one screw up could cripple the farming in that area.

Third, lots and lots of eminent domain court cases. Well the ones you will need to force because the land owners wont sell.

and lastly

You get to build it.



OR


Obama a wave his magic wand and construction begins 10 days ago!


You don't watch Fox News do you?
 
2012-06-28 09:39:06 AM  

mrshowrules: unlikely: "Relations are at their lowest point"

...wasn't that during that whole pine lumber thing like six years ago?

The only time the US dipped into the "wtf is their problem" category for me is when the re-elected Bush. Generally speaking, Canadians love/like their big brother even though he is an asshole sometimes (see previous sentence).


Well, I'm not thrilled at the TSA and Homeland Security wanting to breach Canadian citizens' privacy either, but yeah, I love the States and want to visit a lot more.
 
2012-06-28 09:40:18 AM  
Author's bio:

He is also a director of several Canadian companies including TransCanada Corp., builders of the Keystone XL pipeline.
 
2012-06-28 09:41:19 AM  
They are opposed to his attempt to move closer to medical coverage for all. They thought they had a North American monopoly on it.
 
2012-06-28 09:41:38 AM  

BillCo: Great headline Subby. +1


"Hey Phillip, have you heard aboot President Fartbama?"
"No Terrance, what's he done now?"
***poooooot***
"AAAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"
"Oh, he's such a pigf**ker, Terrance!"
 
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