Kuoxasar: Domestic drones are already being used by the DHS and other governmental agencies, and several small-time law enforcement groups have accumulated UAVs of their own as they await clearance from the Federal Aviation Administration. Indeed, by 2020 there expects to betens of thousands of drones diving and dipping through US airspace.OK I realize Balrog Obongo isn't the cause of all evil and injustice in the world but I'm more than a little annoyed that no one of importance seems to give a farking shiat about this crap, including him. This security state stuff is endless and depressing.
AverageAmericanGuy: Anyone want some? This is way more than I can use by myself.
ds615: 1) You seem to think the President has influence and power he doesn't. This makes you an idiot. You also think this is tied to political parties, which is just Full Retard mode.
farkityfarker: Americans continue to vote for the military industrial complex.They shouldn't be shocked at the results.
ds615: 1) You seem to think the President has influence and power he doesn't. This makes you an idiot.
swahnhennessy: farkityfarker: Americans continue to vote for the military industrial complex.They shouldn't be shocked at the results.Democracy and apathy/ignorance don't mix.
ds615: 1) You seem to think the President has influence and power he doesn't. This makes you an idiot. You also think this is tied to political parties, which is just Full Retard mode.b) duh. If you can log into the thing remotely, then so can someone else. IT security secret; There is none. You can make it take longer, you can try to make it "not worth the trouble", but you can't ever make it secure.III) Drones are, and have been, in use here for many years. The "people of importance" do give a fark, and that fark is that they set those drones in place there.
farkityfarker: Americans continue to vote for the military industrial complex are hamstrung by a two party, winner take all system that would take constitutional reforms to change but because that would also serve to the make the people currently in power more susceptible to getting voted out it won't happen.They shouldn't be shocked at the results.
krackpipe: So how exactly is all this revenue-sapping activity bringing the US back to prosperity again?
untaken_name: krackpipe: So how exactly is all this revenue-sapping activity bringing the US back to prosperity again?What makes you think that's the goal?
redkingca: If you read the article, they spoofed the GPS signal. This affects just more than drones, pretty much everything that flys. Anyone with any imagination should be worried(we're well past tin foil here).
krackpipe: untaken_name: krackpipe: So how exactly is all this revenue-sapping activity bringing the US back to prosperity again?What makes you think that's the goal?Are you uninterested in the US returning to prosperity? Uncertain what your question means.
Kuoxasar: I was hoping for someone who gave a fark who is on our side.
Trackball: I used to care about the future of this country. Then I went out into the real world and saw that we no longer deserve what this country once was and stood for.
Hacker_X: redkingca: If you read the article, they spoofed the GPS signal. This affects just more than drones, pretty much everything that flys. Anyone with any imagination should be worried(we're well past tin foil here).This is more akin to old school phone phreaking than computer hacking. They aren't breaking into the software and controlling the thing. They went at it sideways.A normal pilot can ignore his GPS if it goes nuts. To have it be a real problem he would also have to have a failure of his altimeter, airspeed indicator, compass, and all his comm and nav radio systems. If you have that many failures at once your whole electrical system is probably either dead or on fire so you have bigger problems to worry about than your GPS not reading correctly.This isn't even a big deal for remote piloted drones. What they targeted was a drone that has a programmed flight path that it follows using GPS. They fed it false position data so it course corrected. They either have to have their own radar station or somebody watching it to know what heading it is on to know what kind of dummy signal to send to it to make it fly the direction they want. In addition they pretty much have to stay in line of sight and if it gets out of range it is just going to start picking up the real GPS signal and go back to the flight path it is supposed to be on.The only way this poses any actual threat is if they spoof the drone into flying into something else.It isn't even something that is difficult to fix. Directionally shield the GPS receiver so that it can only receive from above where actual GPS signals will be coming from. The problem can literally be solved with a roll of aluminum foil.
Crewmannumber6: The anarchist in me thinks is a good idea (the hacking that is)
Edge.bot: that sounds like a good way to have some very stern looking secret service agents turn up at your house .
krackpipe: It's great how, since the Bush and Congress cowardly and idiotic response to 9/11, the money is in surveilling and policing all of us American citizens trying to find jobs. Unless we're in police or surveillance industry, of course --- then we have jobs wasting tax dollars. So how exactly is all this revenue-sapping activity bringing the US back to prosperity again?
over_and_done: The drones will be abusing privacy until either a celebrity is killed or a billionaire is inconvenienced by one of them. Only then will either lots of people, or one guy with money, get the laws changed.
xanadian: FTFA: After all, reports Newser, domestic drones are likely to use the same unencrypted GPS signals provided to civilianswatOk, I can see *domestic* drones having that problem, but any owned by the DoD or DHS *should* be using the GPS signals reserved for defense and the government (they're supposed to be more accurate). Are those signals unencrypted, too?
MisterRonbo: Use a light plane or your own drone to send your spoof signal from above. So much for that directional fix.
dittybopper: It's also true that a weather balloon with a spoofer on board, remotely controlled from the ground, would add perhaps a $500 bucks to the cost, would guarantee this would work over a *MUCH* wider area, and it would also be impossible to shield against because the sign ...
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