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(CBS Miami)   Medical Examiner determines Miami cannibal did NOT have bath salts in his body, only marijuana. So this was just one really, really, really intense case of the munchies   (miami.cbslocal.com) divider line 175
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2012-06-28 12:22:29 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Mark Ratner: AverageAmericanGuy: I found a bush in a park nearby that has leaves that resemble cannabis, but without any distinctive scent.

I wonder what it is.

Could be cannabis and if it is, its in the growth stage right now. It won't smell good until the flowering stage..September and later.

Hmm. It's about 5' high and has lots of leaves. None of the buds I'd expect to recognize, though.

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 640x856]

Took this pic this morning on my way to the train station. Maybe some botanist can help identify it.


huh. i dunno? and i know a lot of plants (or weeds as most people call them).
 
2012-06-28 12:22:47 AM  
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2012-06-28 12:24:16 AM  
I like this article better:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/27/rudy-eugene-face-marijuana-m e dical-examiner-results_n_1632253.html

FTA: According to Local10, the former North Miami Beach High School football player was once diagnosed as schizophrenic after an arrest, but authorities are not sure if he ever sought treatment.

Food for thought.
 
2012-06-28 12:24:38 AM  

Loucifer: It's near impossible to test for bath salts. I think the M.E. is just trying to save face.


thechive.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-06-28 12:25:01 AM  
You ever chewed off someones face? You ever chewed off someones face...ON WEED?
 
2012-06-28 12:27:20 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Mark Ratner: AverageAmericanGuy: I found a bush in a park nearby that has leaves that resemble cannabis, but without any distinctive scent.

I wonder what it is.

Could be cannabis and if it is, its in the growth stage right now. It won't smell good until the flowering stage..September and later.

Hmm. It's about 5' high and has lots of leaves. None of the buds I'd expect to recognize, though.



Took this pic this morning on my way to the train station. Maybe some botanist can help identify it.


That red vein in the leaves doesn't look right at all, but I'm no expert. And like I said, there won't be "buds" until the female plant is in the flowering stage. This happens when there is less light in the day, certainly not now.
 
2012-06-28 12:27:58 AM  
AverageAmericanGuy: I found a bush in a park nearby that has leaves that resemble cannabis, but without any distinctive scent.

Hmm. It's about 5' high and has lots of leaves. None of the buds I'd expect to recognize, though.

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 640x856]

Took this pic this morning on my way to the train station. Maybe some botanist can help identify it.


Looks like Star hibiscus.
 
2012-06-28 12:28:05 AM  
Pot stays in your system for 30 days. just because it was found in his blood absolutely does not mean he was stoned when he ate that man's delicious face.
 
2012-06-28 12:28:50 AM  
Y'all so prejudiced. If the spectrogram said 'weed,' 's probably weed. People have done some pretty sick shiat sober. Bath salts are mephedrone, methyone, and provalerone. Hallucinogens are safe drugs. Safer, even, than the succorant cannabis everybody loves so much*.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/06/01/what-bath-salts-will - and-won-t-make-you-do.html
Link

//* 'cept mesc, which is ok in moderate doses if you are not pregnant
 
2012-06-28 12:30:08 AM  

hissatsu: AverageAmericanGuy: I found a bush in a park nearby that has leaves that resemble cannabis, but without any distinctive scent.

Hmm. It's about 5' high and has lots of leaves. None of the buds I'd expect to recognize, though.

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 640x856]

Took this pic this morning on my way to the train station. Maybe some botanist can help identify it.

Looks like Star hibiscus.


Very similar! I'll keep an eye out for flowers.
 
2012-06-28 12:30:36 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Mark Ratner: AverageAmericanGuy: I found a bush in a park nearby that has leaves that resemble cannabis, but without any distinctive scent.

I wonder what it is.

Could be cannabis and if it is, its in the growth stage right now. It won't smell good until the flowering stage..September and later.

Hmm. It's about 5' high and has lots of leaves. None of the buds I'd expect to recognize, though.

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 640x856]

Took this pic this morning on my way to the train station. Maybe some botanist can help identify it.


Nope not it.

If you take a leaf and sniff it, if it's pot, you will smell it.
 
2012-06-28 12:34:25 AM  
check my original post back when this was a new story, where I said that it was not bath salts (mephedrone) and that they only said so to get the public to rally behind illegalizing it.

some said i was wearing a tin-foil hat!


ze foolz.
 
2012-06-28 12:43:29 AM  
Next thing you know, you'll be sharing dirty pot needles and snorting weed off of a hooker's ass. BEFORE YOU EAT HER FACE!
 
2012-06-28 12:45:16 AM  
"Frontline" did an expose not long ago about how medical examiners will report what they are told to report. It's their job. This will be used from now on as the prime example of marijuana's dangerous effects. It's perfect. Too perfect.

/ you are primed
 
2012-06-28 12:46:07 AM  

Ed Finnerty: Asa Phelps: tenpoundsofcheese: well, it makes you paranoid, has no medicinal benefits according to the FDA and gives you moobs and the munchies, so no surprise here.

If it has no medical benefits, wtf is Marinol?

A tomato-based sauce that helps relieve aches and pains?


bravo man, bravo
 
2012-06-28 12:46:32 AM  

PC LOAD LETTER: I think after this many years of pot use, we would know what's attributable to pot and what is not.


Well, pot is a mild psychotic, i.e. if you're already on the edge of being farking crazy it can set you off. So, yeah, actually medical experience with the drug would seem to indicate it could have been a contributing factor, albeit not really the primary factor (that being the pre-existing psych condition).
 
2012-06-28 12:46:55 AM  
Just seems awfully convenient. You know, with the recent put to legalize pot and all...
 
2012-06-28 12:48:17 AM  

gund: AverageAmericanGuy: Mark Ratner: AverageAmericanGuy: I found a bush in a park nearby that has leaves that resemble cannabis, but without any distinctive scent.

I wonder what it is.

Could be cannabis and if it is, its in the growth stage right now. It won't smell good until the flowering stage..September and later.

Hmm. It's about 5' high and has lots of leaves. None of the buds I'd expect to recognize, though.

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 640x856]

Took this pic this morning on my way to the train station. Maybe some botanist can help identify it.

Nope not it.

If you take a leaf and sniff it, if it's pot, you will smell it.


Hehehe I can just imagine him standing there with his face in this bush sniffing all the leaves
 
2012-06-28 12:48:36 AM  

Veloram: Just seems awfully convenient. You know, with the recent put

push to legalize pot and all...

ftfm
 
2012-06-28 12:49:39 AM  
Crazy people do crazy things. Drugs can inspire them to be more crazy, but it takes an extreme level of fundamental insanity to chew off someone's face.
 
2012-06-28 12:51:08 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Took this pic this morning on my way to the train station. Maybe some botanist can help identify it.


Ruderalis, I think...A close relative, but not psychoactive.
 
2012-06-28 12:51:34 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Asa Phelps: tenpoundsofcheese: well, it makes you paranoid, has no medicinal benefits according to the FDA and gives you moobs and the munchies, so no surprise here.

If it has no medical benefits, wtf is Marinol?

according to norml, marinol provides limited relief to only select patients.


I believe his point was if marijuana truly has no medical benefits, as the DEA and FDA claim, then why would they bother to create a pill-form substitute in the first place? Which is a rather valid point, in my opinion. Why bother mimicking the active ingredient of a substance that's supposedly useless for medical purposes?
 
2012-06-28 12:52:30 AM  

GAT_00: PC LOAD LETTER: I think after this many years of pot use, we would know what's attributable to pot and what is not.

I'm no expert, but aren't there occasionally people with really insane reactions to drugs that are rarely, if ever seen? If that's true, why wouldn't pot have the same chance?


I've heard that for some people with latent mental imbalances, psychoactive drugs can exacerbate or "ignite" the imbalance, if you will. Pot could affect such a person in this way I suppose.

A friend of mine from high school went crazy shortly after I introduced him to LSD. We had been smoking pot together for a few years, then went to college and discovered the hallucinogens. I can't say that the acid was the trigger for his mental breakdown, because I think it would have happened anyway. Some people think the drugs were the catalyst though.

/I dunno...I stuck with drugs for many years. The only one that caused real damage in my life was alcohol.
//sober. still pro-cannabis, but sober now.
 
2012-06-28 12:55:10 AM  
I'm going out on a limb here, but I'm guessing the guy may not have all of his marbles in the first place.
 
2012-06-28 12:56:30 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Mark Ratner: AverageAmericanGuy: I found a bush in a park nearby that has leaves that resemble cannabis, but without any distinctive scent.

I wonder what it is.

Could be cannabis and if it is, its in the growth stage right now. It won't smell good until the flowering stage..September and later.

Hmm. It's about 5' high and has lots of leaves. None of the buds I'd expect to recognize, though.

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 640x856]

Took this pic this morning on my way to the train station. Maybe some botanist can help identify it.


That's definitely not cannabis. I'm not sure what it is though.
 
2012-06-28 12:56:36 AM  
why would it matter what drugs he's on..?
he committed a crime

and when u break the law
you go to jail

isn't that right ralphie

t1.gstatic.com
 
2012-06-28 12:56:44 AM  
I should also mention...I have known hundreds of pot smokers, over the years. Some sane, some crazy. Not ONCE, in all that time, have ANY of them tried to eat another live mammal, under any circumstances. An occasional goldfish, perhaps, but no live mammal eating.

I am thinking underlying mental health issues, trying to self medicate using pot with no mental health counseling or treatment.
 
2012-06-28 12:57:03 AM  

gund: If you take a leaf and sniff it, if it's pot, you will smell it.


Then you think "Do I feel high?" You think about that until someone walks by, and you wonder if you said it out loud. You have to maintain, now, get where it's safe. You walk towards the intersection, trying to remember if a normal human step size is 1.5 sidewalk squares or 2, then you're on a driveway and it's like 10 feet without cracks, so you just look down and try not to make eye contact with the people on the road, they're watching you, man. You get to the intersection and look for the button, it must be an automatic crosswalk because you can't find it. You wait, and it says stop, you wait like forever, and cars are stopping, waving you past, and you turn away for a moment, pretending to check your pockets... Then you see it's a stop sign, so after the first car there, you can walk... or is that just for cars? Dammit, if you had your car, this would be easier, you know how to drive past a stopsign, but walking, you can't remember. You turn right and try to find an easier intersection to cross, one without so many cars, signs, and open space. You adopt sort of a bouncy, jaunty strut, it's a sunny day so you're supposed to be happy, right? You see some old woman, and tell her you got a hot lady waiting and give her a smile but maybe you smiled wrong because she's staring at you and you need to check a mirror but you don't carry one. What if your face is all wrong, and you're smiling with a frown now? Wait. A car mirror, there's mirrors on all the parked cars! You walk over all casual, but it's too low. You bend down and your face is all pinched, man, maybe the mirror is bent. You reach out to touch it, and when you take your hand away you see someone STANDING RIGHT BEHIND YOU! Holy shiat, it's a cop, you were looking in a farking cop's mirror, is that a crime, is it? Holy shiat man, you're sooo farking high, man, holy fark, you're going to prison, man!
 
2012-06-28 01:00:47 AM  

El Brujo: GAT_00: PC LOAD LETTER: I think after this many years of pot use, we would know what's attributable to pot and what is not.

I'm no expert, but aren't there occasionally people with really insane reactions to drugs that are rarely, if ever seen? If that's true, why wouldn't pot have the same chance?

I've heard that for some people with latent mental imbalances, psychoactive drugs can exacerbate or "ignite" the imbalance, if you will. Pot could affect such a person in this way I suppose.

A friend of mine from high school went crazy shortly after I introduced him to LSD. We had been smoking pot together for a few years, then went to college and discovered the hallucinogens. I can't say that the acid was the trigger for his mental breakdown, because I think it would have happened anyway. Some people think the drugs were the catalyst though.

/I dunno...I stuck with drugs for many years. The only one that caused real damage in my life was alcohol.
//sober. still pro-cannabis, but sober now.


i2.listal.com
Satan, is in the house, he killed my Mom and turned her into a bull!
 
2012-06-28 01:01:54 AM  
I wonder if he was a DARE graduate.
 
2012-06-28 01:04:49 AM  
I'd like to know how that was determined. Did they purchase every kind of bath salt(research chemical) known, test each one for its specific alkaloids, and then look for those specific alkaloids in the body? Sounds like the coroner just wants his 15 minutes.
 
2012-06-28 01:05:44 AM  

farkingismybusiness:

[i2.listal.com image 300x319]
Satan, is in the house, he killed my Mom and turned her into a bull!


Man, now I'm going to have to dig up the DVD and watch that again.

/ Who would have thought Matthew Lillard can actually act?
 
2012-06-28 01:05:59 AM  

wantingout: I'd like to know how that was determined. Did they purchase every kind of bath salt(research chemical) known, test each one for its specific alkaloids, and then look for those specific alkaloids in the body? Sounds like the coroner just wants his 15 minutes.


why does it matter?
drugs don't bite off heads.
people do
 
2012-06-28 01:06:03 AM  

MisterLoki: Maybe the dude was just crazy?


You think? Crazy but it's not just the crazy.
 
2012-06-28 01:07:43 AM  
I suspect that this dude would be a face chewer even if he only had a cup of coffee in his system.
 
2012-06-28 01:10:16 AM  

Jim_Callahan: PC LOAD LETTER: I think after this many years of pot use, we would know what's attributable to pot and what is not.

Well, pot is a mild psychotic, i.e. if you're already on the edge of being farking crazy it can set you off. So, yeah, actually medical experience with the drug would seem to indicate it could have been a contributing factor, albeit not really the primary factor (that being the pre-existing psych condition).


Or, your husband can get you stoned and then have you watch Fear and Loathing. I do NOT want to repeat that.
 
2012-06-28 01:13:21 AM  

namatad: PC LOAD LETTER: I think after this many years of pot use, we would know what's attributable to pot and what is not.

well clearly you dont know how this game is played. Watch for fauxnews to talk about the MADNESS of legalizing pot and how it will lead to millions of cannibal attacks!!!


Several fauxnews pundits with their own show lean Libertarian and would have it leagalized, and I believe a great deal of their better known paid contributors who lean all kinds of crazy ways would.
 
2012-06-28 01:14:27 AM  
Many many years ago, when I lived in Dallas, I watched a PBS special on the hazards of pot. They interviewed a dude who was 45 years old, and who had spent approximately 30 of those years in assorted Texas correctional institutions. His major biatch was he had spent sooooo much of his life in cages of some sort just from smoking some weed. The interviewer asked him if he had learned any life lessons in his turmoils. The dude said yes he had, and it was "No mater what happens, don't forget to pass the dubbie".

/and farkingismybusiness~ please pass the dubbie.
 
2012-06-28 01:14:49 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Mark Ratner: AverageAmericanGuy: I found a bush in a park nearby that has leaves that resemble cannabis, but without any distinctive scent.

I wonder what it is.

Could be cannabis and if it is, its in the growth stage right now. It won't smell good until the flowering stage..September and later.

Hmm. It's about 5' high and has lots of leaves. None of the buds I'd expect to recognize, though.

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 640x856]

Took this pic this morning on my way to the train station. Maybe some botanist can help identify it.


Not cannabis.

Hibiscus.

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-06-28 01:15:35 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: I found a bush in a park nearby that has leaves that resemble cannabis, but without any distinctive scent.

I wonder what it is.


Cleome or Spider Flower
www.illinoiswildflowers.info

/Hot Hot Hot
//Or maybe Okra.....Derp!
 
2012-06-28 01:19:09 AM  

The_Sponge: I suspect that this dude would be a face chewer even if he only had a cup of coffee in his system.


This is an excellent point. I've been saying for years that caffeine should be a schedule 1 drug.
 
2012-06-28 01:20:32 AM  

MayoSlather: The_Sponge: I suspect that this dude would be a face chewer even if he only had a cup of coffee in his system.

This is an excellent point. I've been saying for years that caffeine should be a schedule 1 drug.


but how are bodybuilders gonna get the thermogenic energy necessary to lower their BMI to "passing".
 
2012-06-28 01:24:07 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Mark Ratner: AverageAmericanGuy: I found a bush in a park nearby that has leaves that resemble cannabis, but without any distinctive scent.

I wonder what it is.

Could be cannabis and if it is, its in the growth stage right now. It won't smell good until the flowering stage..September and later.

Hmm. It's about 5' high and has lots of leaves. None of the buds I'd expect to recognize, though.

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 640x856]

Took this pic this morning on my way to the train station. Maybe some botanist can help identify it.


That is clearly Cassava or Tapioca Plant....
i45.tinypic.com
 
2012-06-28 01:25:33 AM  
maybe not drug drug bath salts
but what about traditional ones??

dear god
check pepsi cola for head biting problems too while your at it
 
2012-06-28 01:30:09 AM  
Apparently the country needed more stupid.
 
2012-06-28 01:32:20 AM  
AverageAmericanGuy: Mark Ratner: AverageAmericanGuy: I found a bush in a park nearby that has leaves that resemble cannabis, but without any distinctive scent.

I wonder what it is.

Could be cannabis and if it is, its in the growth stage right now. It won't smell good until the flowering stage..September and later.

Hmm. It's about 5' high and has lots of leaves. None of the buds I'd expect to recognize, though.

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 640x856]

Took this pic this morning on my way to the train station. Maybe some botanist can help identify it.


Well I can't ID it, but I can tell you for a fact its NOT POT. It looks poisonous to me. I definitely wouldn;t attempt to consume it.
 
2012-06-28 01:34:27 AM  
Jon iz teh kewl: wantingout: I'd like to know how that was determined. Did they purchase every kind of bath salt(research chemical) known, test each one for its specific alkaloids, and then look for those specific alkaloids in the body? Sounds like the coroner just wants his 15 minutes.

why does it matter?
drugs don't bite off heads.
people do

it matters because... REEFER MADNESS.
 
2012-06-28 01:37:33 AM  

Point02GPA: Many many years ago, when I lived in Dallas, I watched a PBS special on the hazards of pot. They interviewed a dude who was 45 years old, and who had spent approximately 30 of those years in assorted Texas correctional institutions. His major biatch was he had spent sooooo much of his life in cages of some sort just from smoking some weed. The interviewer asked him if he had learned any life lessons in his turmoils. The dude said yes he had, and it was "No mater what happens, don't forget to pass the dubbie".

/and farkingismybusiness~ please pass the dubbie.


www.timbouckley.com
I'm Bogarting this biatch.
 
2012-06-28 01:38:31 AM  
nerdapproved.com
 
2012-06-28 01:41:59 AM  

Hagenhatesyouall: AverageAmericanGuy: Mark Ratner: AverageAmericanGuy: I found a bush in a park nearby that has leaves that resemble cannabis, but without any distinctive scent.

I wonder what it is.

Could be cannabis and if it is, its in the growth stage right now. It won't smell good until the flowering stage..September and later.

Hmm. It's about 5' high and has lots of leaves. None of the buds I'd expect to recognize, though.

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 640x856]

Took this pic this morning on my way to the train station. Maybe some botanist can help identify it.

Not cannabis.

Hibiscus.

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 640x853]

I think you're right, the leaves seem pointier than Cassava.
 
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