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(Reason Magazine)   NY Times columnist thinks Americans are not submissive enough to authority. No. No we haven't. We've been a bad country. *Very bad.* We need a spanking. A hard spanking   (reason.com) divider line 151
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2012-06-27 04:44:21 PM
www.cristyli.com
If you'd learn your place we wouldn't have to do this.
 
2012-06-27 04:48:56 PM
Go on....
 
2012-06-27 04:52:13 PM
www.prisonersofthecensus.org
 
2012-06-27 04:55:19 PM
For some reason, I'm really distracted by the grammar issue in that headline.
 
2012-06-27 05:10:23 PM
50 Shades of Red, White, and Blue?
 
2012-06-27 05:14:47 PM
t0.gstatic.com

I stole this linky! Punish me!
 
2012-06-27 05:20:31 PM
And then the oral sex!
 
2012-06-27 05:36:05 PM

Triumph: [www.cristyli.com image 400x283]
If you'd learn your place we wouldn't have to do this.


You know, the last time I went through TSA and was wanded/patted (as opposed to the millimeter-ray scans), it was a busty brunette chick who looked like she was just out of college.
 
2012-06-27 06:01:22 PM

RexTalionis: Triumph: [www.cristyli.com image 400x283]
If you'd learn your place we wouldn't have to do this.

You know, the last time I went through TSA and was wanded/patted (as opposed to the millimeter-ray scans), it was a busty brunette chick who looked like she was just out of college.


I got Paul Blart.
 
2012-06-27 06:17:48 PM
I got busted for having my middle fingers raised going through the nudie scanner.
 
2012-06-27 06:24:35 PM

Calmamity: I got busted for having my middle fingers raised going through the nudie scanner.


Teehee. Bravo.
 
2012-06-27 06:33:24 PM
So that chart looks like it aligns perfectly with the creation of the DEA.
 
2012-06-27 06:35:01 PM
That don't make me YOUR submissive, Sir Twue Domwy Dom.
 
2012-06-27 07:09:43 PM
The authoritarians aren't even bothering to hide it now, are they?
 
2012-06-27 07:12:29 PM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Teehee. Bravo.


Totally childish thing to do, but it was like my fingers were having an involuntary reaction to idiotic tyranny.
 
2012-06-27 07:21:03 PM
Make me feel like you're deserving of my submission, then we'll talk.
 
2012-06-27 07:24:05 PM
Anyone post this yet? No?

Everyone should read this: The Authoritarians
 
2012-06-27 07:25:54 PM
My sister, who is very much about "the rules" gets all in a twist when she hears me tell my kids "Wisdom is knowing which rules to break."

It makes me laugh.
 
2012-06-27 07:30:10 PM

Calmamity: I got busted for having my middle fingers raised going through the nudie scanner.


Busted? What are they going to do? Hold you in Contempt of Dropout Rent-A-Cops?
 
2012-06-27 07:34:23 PM

Calmamity: I got busted for having my middle fingers raised going through the nudie scanner.


All three?
 
2012-06-27 07:39:30 PM

freewill: Calmamity: I got busted for having my middle fingers raised going through the nudie scanner.

Busted? What are they going to do? Hold you in Contempt of Dropout Rent-A-Cops?


I know right? The TSA is not a law enforcement agency despite the fact they think so. And the cops hate them just as much as we do because it's a waste of time and they know it.
 
2012-06-27 07:41:14 PM

Generation_D: So that chart looks like it aligns perfectly with the creation of the DEA.


When you randomly make a bunch of common habits illegal that weren't illegal before, you tend to end up with a bunch of people in prison that weren't before, yes.

Entertainingly, it's also coincided with a fairly dramatic drop in violent crime, which makes it either funnier or even more horrible depending, I guess, on whether you do a lot of drugs or not.
 
2012-06-27 07:41:41 PM

dookdookdook: Anyone post this yet? No?

Everyone should read this: The Authoritarians


Yes! That's immediately what I thought of when I read the headline. Though TFA and that book disagree a little on what constitutes authoritarianism. TFA seems to think that the Tea Party is anti-authoritarian, when they're really just anti-Democratic Party authority and would probably be more than happy with right-wing authoritarianism (in both the political and in the sense used in the book).

I'm also currently reading The Lucifer Effect by Philip Zimbardo, who has a lot to say about undue submission to authority being a key component in allowing otherwise good people to do evil things.
 
2012-06-27 07:45:05 PM
My HS biology teacher had a very interesting (and somewhat subversive) quote at the front of the classroom: "Always question authority, but respect it."

Just because a leader tells me something does not mean that I should follow it without question. We've had some very horrific things happen within our lifetimes because of people's reluctance to question their leaders.

FTA: "We have to relearn the art of following,"

I know the meaning that the original author of that statement meant, but it can also be turned upside down. We do need to relearn how to follow. We need to learn how to stand behind the right sort of leader. Many of the leaders in our corporate world are narcissists or sociopaths. Our representatives in government often aren't much better. Those sorts of people shouldn't be followed. So we as a people need to reform the way these people become leaders, as well as changing the culture and image of what it means to be a leader.
 
2012-06-27 07:50:47 PM
The author of this is all over the farking place. He's formulating opinions based on assumed opinions by asking himself questions.

Sir, you are not a philosopher or great diviner of truth. Drink 4 shots of bourbon and four beers. Wait 30 minutes. Write this article over from scratch. I'll bet it's more like what you really meant to say.
 
2012-06-27 07:51:05 PM
It depends on what constitutes authority. Being anti-government doesn't make you anti-authoritarian, as many libertarians and Republicans have shown. It just means you serve a different authority. One that may tend to be a little more selfish. I don't consider that part of the All-American Individualistic Streak. It's just being an asshole.

I'm strongly anti-authoritarian, but I also believe government has a time and a place. It is a matter of balance. I choose to live and work within a society, and there is more than just my own interests at stake. I have zero issue with taxes going to help the society as a whole. According to the guys at Reason, that makes me a commie or something. So be it. In their system, you'd still have masters, but no accountability (though we're bad at using that as it is).

Mostly, I just enjoyed seeing Brooks and Reason have a slap-fight.
starbaseatlanta.com
 
2012-06-27 07:51:14 PM
Wow. And here I was thinking we are entirely too submissive, bending over to take whatever the rich dish out while loudly proclaiming our independence.

Or maybe I've been watching too many Tea Party rallies.
 
2012-06-27 07:52:18 PM

Rent Party: My sister, who is very much about "the rules" gets all in a twist when she hears me tell my kids "Wisdom is knowing which rules to break."

It makes me laugh.


Hah. I can think of several family members like this, and it never fails to please me when I step all over their "rules" mentality.

/except for the lack of subject-verb agreement, this headline is making me hot
 
2012-06-27 07:52:53 PM
Brooks is right. I blame the 1960s.

And there is nothing wrong with the grammar in the headline. It's S&M humor.
 
2012-06-27 07:53:37 PM
Click DOS on FARK redirect servers at 9pm EST, pass it down.
 
2012-06-27 07:54:36 PM
David Brooks, the famous conservative, believes Americans need to be more obedient? Hmmm.
 
2012-06-27 07:55:27 PM

MJMaloney187: Brooks is right. I blame the 1960s.

And there is nothing wrong with the grammar in the headline. It's S&M humor.


Are you the S or the M?
 
2012-06-27 07:58:58 PM
It's hard to fight The Man when you are The Man.

This crop of Americans has a lot of people who hate authority... but want to give them more power so they can stop authoritarians.
 
2012-06-27 08:00:49 PM

trivial use of my dark powers: Wow. And here I was thinking we are entirely too submissive, bending over to take whatever the rich dish out while loudly proclaiming our independence.

Or maybe I've been watching too many Tea Party rallies.


Wow. And here I was thinking we are entirely too submissive, bending over to take whatever the government dishes out while loudly, and violently, proclaiming our independence.

Or maybe I've been watching too many OWS rallies.
 
2012-06-27 08:04:00 PM

randomjsa: trivial use of my dark powers: Wow. And here I was thinking we are entirely too submissive, bending over to take whatever the rich dish out while loudly proclaiming our independence.

Or maybe I've been watching too many Tea Party rallies.

Wow. And here I was thinking we are entirely too submissive, bending over to take whatever the government dishes out while loudly, and violently, proclaiming our independence.

Or maybe I've been watching too many OWS rallies.


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2012-06-27 08:08:40 PM
With this headline I wonder if we will get Need Help Soonish and Grable's Daughter in the politics tab? Or Uncle Ghastly for that matter.
 
2012-06-27 08:10:38 PM
Yeah, we should have known our place, and just gone along with that whole, "taxation without representation," thing.
 
2012-06-27 08:14:02 PM
To be honest, I'm too much of a square to be a part of the whole Dominatrix thing.

/wait what were we talking about again?
 
2012-06-27 08:21:06 PM
Is that why the local police departments are stocking up on all the military hardware?
 
2012-06-27 08:21:25 PM
I'm chained to my mistresses' dungeon wall, and getting kicked out of these responses.
 
2012-06-27 08:27:03 PM
My brother works for federal law enforcement and I slap him in the face all the time just because it's technically a felony.

/Also, I'm the little brother but significantly larger than him now.
 
2012-06-27 08:28:50 PM
Please, Americans are terminally authoritarian. Many are just social dominance oriented: They object to authority that isn't them/ideologically acceptable to them.
 
2012-06-27 08:30:07 PM
Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: I'm chained to my mistresses' dungeon wall, and getting kicked out of these responses.

Did she give you permission to get a kick out of these replies or are you gonna need moar spankings for getting a kick without permission?
 
2012-06-27 08:30:24 PM

meat0918: The authoritarians aren't even bothering to hide it now, are they?


They haven't for a little while now. But they are getting louder and more insistent.
 
2012-06-27 08:38:44 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: Please, Americans are terminally authoritarian. Many are just social dominance oriented: They object to authority that isn't them/ideologically acceptable to them.


Wow, what a terminally trite statement.
 
2012-06-27 08:46:55 PM

Salt Lick Steady: A Dark Evil Omen: Please, Americans are terminally authoritarian. Many are just social dominance oriented: They object to authority that isn't them/ideologically acceptable to them.

Wow, what a terminally trite statement.


And yet true. What else can you say when the largest group of "anti-authoritarians" are fanatical about expanding the organs of state violence to unlimited extents? What about that says anything but "authoritarian as long as I'm in charge" to you?
 
2012-06-27 08:55:47 PM
In anticipation of America getting poorer, the wealthy are buying the government so that society is reorganized to ensure that loss of wealth only affects those who cannot afford to buy government.

As this proceeds, it becomes inconvenient for the masses to feel entitled to freedom and self-determination, or to expect government to be responsive to their rights and needs. We need to be conditioned to accept powerlessness.

The people at the top see life as a game in its final season and they're ready to move on to the playoffs. That means it's time to eliminate everyone else from the game.
 
2012-06-27 08:57:22 PM
fark your rules, you farkwad from farktown

messesofben.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-06-27 09:06:01 PM
The Tea Party and libertarians are totally anti-authority.

That's why they want corporations the freedom to rule over you.
 
2012-06-27 09:11:40 PM
Came to say this country was founded on not being submissive to authority.
 
2012-06-27 09:13:26 PM
Coming soon, 50 shades of patriotism?
 
2012-06-27 09:15:37 PM
Another batshiat article from Treason? They really are the WND of college dropouts who think they're intellectuals.
 
2012-06-27 09:18:24 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: Salt Lick Steady: A Dark Evil Omen: Please, Americans are terminally authoritarian. Many are just social dominance oriented: They object to authority that isn't them/ideologically acceptable to them.

Wow, what a terminally trite statement.

And yet true. What else can you say when the largest group of "anti-authoritarians" are fanatical about expanding the organs of state violence to unlimited extents? What about that says anything but "authoritarian as long as I'm in charge" to you?


How many people still plan on voting this year?
 
2012-06-27 09:21:05 PM
we don't call them big government liberals for nothing.
 
2012-06-27 09:36:44 PM
Bobo is usually wrong on whatever he talks about.
 
2012-06-27 09:44:27 PM
I think Brooks is decrying an engineered rebellion against traditonal civil institutions. China tried something very similar with the Great Cultural Revolution.

.
 
2012-06-27 09:46:05 PM
FTFA: We live in a culture that finds it easier to assign moral status to victims of power than to those who wield power.... Then there is our fervent devotion to equality, to the notion that all people are equal and deserve equal recognition and respect.... But the main problem is our inability to think properly about how power should be used to bind and build.... Those "Question Authority" bumper stickers no longer symbolize an attempt to distinguish just and unjust authority. They symbolize an attitude of opposing authority.

It's called "Part of what it is to be an American" and it is one of the things that sets us apart from other countries in the world. People blindly following governmental authority is what's wrong with a lot of other countries. Always questioning/challenging government authority is part of what keeps this country from becoming another North Korea. Falling in line -- with the government, or even with a single political party -- can be a very dangerous thing.

Yes, this kind of attitude can create chaos, but when it comes to politics and power, a certain amount of chaos is generally better than complacency or outright conformance.
 
2012-06-27 09:50:08 PM
yeah, F that guy. if he wants to gobble dicks in hell, he can be my guest. i'll be over here doing my own thing.


/dafuq did i just write
 
2012-06-27 10:01:20 PM
That means it's time to eliminate everyone else from the game.

they are outnumbered. the police and military, once they realize they're being played just as much as we are, will turn on them. is that too optimistic? Officer Jeeves, shoot that hippie for me! I don't think so.

/no more beer for me
 
2012-06-27 10:07:00 PM

Fark Me To Tears: It's called "Part of what it is to be an American" and it is one of the things that sets us apart from other countries in the world. People blindly following governmental authority is what's wrong with a lot of other countries. Always questioning/challenging government authority is part of what keeps this country from becoming another North Korea.


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What "sets America apart" is that we fell into line and obeyed authority during WWII. You didn't see people at home boo-hooing the war effort, everyone was eating up the government's propaganda and doing what needed to be done. We were on the winning side and didn't have to fight on our own territory, meaning that we were primed for decades of dominance which we still haven't relinquished despite our best efforts to shoot ourselves in the foot. America is a nation of backwards, greedy, and angry people who act like bullies to make up for their own insecurities. The only thing that sets us apart these days is our military might. In the great grand scheme of things, we're but a blip.
 
2012-06-27 10:17:19 PM

Shaggy_C: Fark Me To Tears: It's called "Part of what it is to be an American" and it is one of the things that sets us apart from other countries in the world. People blindly following governmental authority is what's wrong with a lot of other countries. Always questioning/challenging government authority is part of what keeps this country from becoming another North Korea.

[s3.amazonaws.com image 400x400]

What "sets America apart" is that we fell into line and obeyed authority during WWII. You didn't see people at home boo-hooing the war effort, everyone was eating up the government's propaganda and doing what needed to be done. We were on the winning side and didn't have to fight on our own territory, meaning that we were primed for decades of dominance which we still haven't relinquished despite our best efforts to shoot ourselves in the foot. America is a nation of backwards, greedy, and angry people who act like bullies to make up for their own insecurities. The only thing that sets us apart these days is our military might. In the great grand scheme of things, we're but a blip.


What sets America apart from the rest of the world is two oceans and a strait.
 
2012-06-27 10:17:51 PM
 
2012-06-27 10:39:56 PM
Cato institute? No thanks.
 
2012-06-27 10:43:16 PM

SlothB77: we don't call them big government liberals for nothing.


Well there actually are plenty of anti govt liberals out there, I'm not sure how the authoritarians took over the Democratic party.
 
2012-06-27 10:47:58 PM

AnotherDisillusionedCollegeStudent: Shaggy_C: Fark Me To Tears: It's called "Part of what it is to be an American" and it is one of the things that sets us apart from other countries in the world. People blindly following governmental authority is what's wrong with a lot of other countries. Always questioning/challenging government authority is part of what keeps this country from becoming another North Korea.

[s3.amazonaws.com image 400x400]

What "sets America apart" is that we fell into line and obeyed authority during WWII. You didn't see people at home boo-hooing the war effort, everyone was eating up the government's propaganda and doing what needed to be done. We were on the winning side and didn't have to fight on our own territory, meaning that we were primed for decades of dominance which we still haven't relinquished despite our best efforts to shoot ourselves in the foot. America is a nation of backwards, greedy, and angry people who act like bullies to make up for their own insecurities. The only thing that sets us apart these days is our military might. In the great grand scheme of things, we're but a blip.

What sets America apart from the rest of the world is two oceans and a strait.


What sets America apart is Tim Tebow. Praise be.
 
2012-06-27 10:50:45 PM

ciderczar: What sets America apart is Tim Tebow. Praise be.


In all seriousness, I wouldn't be surprised if Tim Tebow was president someday.
 
2012-06-27 10:51:52 PM

SlothB77: we don't call them big government liberals for nothing.


The article isn't really about authority, it's about justice. And in any case, Brooks is one of the token conservatives on the NYT staff.
 
2012-06-27 10:54:08 PM
Most Americans are very authoritarian. They followed Bush into war, love football coaches, and worship white Jesus. Hierarchy is what they know and understand. Which is why having Obama as their president is such a problem. Obama's position violates their flawed social hierarchy.
 
2012-06-27 10:57:58 PM
fark, I'm going out for a walk, and when I come back, this had better be a hot cop thread.

Or else, umm, I'll go jerk off to something else.
 
2012-06-27 10:58:26 PM

MyEnamine: Most Americans are very authoritarian. They followed Bush into war, love football coaches, and worship white Jesus. Hierarchy is what they know and understand. Which is why having Obama as their president is such a problem. Obama's position violates their flawed social hierarchy.


Obama's just as militaristic and authoritarian as Bush was.
 
2012-06-27 11:01:03 PM

doglover: RexTalionis: Triumph: [www.cristyli.com image 400x283]
If you'd learn your place we wouldn't have to do this.

You know, the last time I went through TSA and was wanded/patted (as opposed to the millimeter-ray scans), it was a busty brunette chick who looked like she was just out of college.

I got Paul Blart.


I got a biatch who asked me for permission to do the pat down even as she was running her hands over my ass.
 
2012-06-27 11:04:19 PM

farkityfarker: MyEnamine: Most Americans are very authoritarian. They followed Bush into war, love football coaches, and worship white Jesus. Hierarchy is what they know and understand. Which is why having Obama as their president is such a problem. Obama's position violates their flawed social hierarchy.

Obama's just as militaristic and authoritarian as Bush was.


www.angelasagelarsen.com
 
2012-06-27 11:09:22 PM

farkityfarker: MyEnamine: Most Americans are very authoritarian. They followed Bush into war, love football coaches, and worship white Jesus. Hierarchy is what they know and understand. Which is why having Obama as their president is such a problem. Obama's position violates their flawed social hierarchy.

Obama's just as militaristic and authoritarian as Bush was.


Shouldn't you be playing under the bridge with randommotherf*cker? You can jerk each other off after you make your stupid and pointless comments.
 
2012-06-27 11:13:32 PM

Marcus Aurelius: [www.prisonersofthecensus.org image 400x300]


I'd hardly call jailing those who would try to dominate us through violence submissive.

/blah blah non violent drug offenders blah blah blah
//pretty sure the correlation between "non violent" drug offenders and murderers and rapists is a lot closer to one than zero
 
2012-06-27 11:15:47 PM

Gyrfalcon: You can jerk each other off after you make your stupid and pointless comments.


His comment wasn't pointless at all, Obama is no where close to as bad as Bush but he ain't mister peace and freedom.
 
2012-06-27 11:19:53 PM
Any crotchrot that thinks we're too submissive should shiat their pants at our rallying cry.

HAYDUKE LIVES!

www.dreamgarden.com
 
2012-06-27 11:42:58 PM
"Tell me I've been bad."

"Why... Yes... You've been... acting up a bit lately..."

"Oh I'm sorry."
 
2012-06-27 11:43:31 PM

farkityfarker: MyEnamine: Most Americans are very authoritarian. They followed Bush into war, love football coaches, and worship white Jesus. Hierarchy is what they know and understand. Which is why having Obama as their president is such a problem. Obama's position violates their flawed social hierarchy.

Obama's just as militaristic and authoritarian as Bush was.


Conservatives are demonstrably more authoritarian than liberals. Link They happen to only respect authority they think shares their ideology. They want a strong father figure as their president. When Mitt urges you to the polls, will you say "Proceeding Daddy!"?
 
2012-06-27 11:45:47 PM
Then there is our fervent devotion to equality, to the notion that all people are equal and deserve equal recognition and respect. It's hard in this frame of mind to define and celebrate greatness, to hold up others who are immeasurably superior to ourselves.

It's pretty shocking that someone would unironically write this sentence in the goddamn 21st century.
 
2012-06-27 11:45:57 PM

beta_plus: pretty sure the correlation between "non violent" drug offenders and murderers and rapists is a lot closer to one than zero


well, as long as you're "pretty sure" of it! who needs any kind of evidence when you're a reactionary cocknozzle?
 
2012-06-28 12:07:49 AM

Lobo2010: Came to say this country was founded on not being submissive to authority certain very specific authorities, but other authorities were A-OK.


Fixed for historical accuracy.
 
2012-06-28 12:09:20 AM

Need_MindBleach: It's pretty shocking that someone would unironically write this sentence in the goddamn 21st century.


You could say it's a triumph *puts on sunglasses* of the will.....yeaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh
 
2012-06-28 12:31:22 AM
Why a picture of Superman in the article? He's half Canadian
And Metropolis was inspired by Toronto. The Daily Planet was inspired by the Toronto Star
http://www.comicbooked.com/superman-is-half-canadian/
 
2012-06-28 12:35:31 AM
There's a difference between anti-authoritarianism and stupid.

And right-wing libertarians are stupid.
 
2012-06-28 12:37:21 AM

WhyteRaven74: You could say it's a triumph *puts on sunglasses* of the will.....yeaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh


members.iinet.net.au
 
2012-06-28 12:45:24 AM

ontariolightning: Why a picture of Superman in the article? He's half Canadian


Thought he was from Krypton and was raised in Iowa.
 
2012-06-28 12:46:38 AM

MyEnamine: farkityfarker: MyEnamine: Most Americans are very authoritarian. They followed Bush into war, love football coaches, and worship white Jesus. Hierarchy is what they know and understand. Which is why having Obama as their president is such a problem. Obama's position violates their flawed social hierarchy.

Obama's just as militaristic and authoritarian as Bush was.

Conservatives are demonstrably more authoritarian than liberals. Link They happen to only respect authority they think shares their ideology. They want a strong father figure as their president. When Mitt urges you to the polls, will you say "Proceeding Daddy!"?


Makes sense then, as Obama is demonstrably center-right. Oh, and orders people's deaths in his spare time.

RWAs might vote for Romney, but if they're working in the Executive Branch, you'd better believe they're following orders. Not necessarily because they like Obama, but because they owe a duty to the office.
 
2012-06-28 12:51:05 AM
All true. That New Yorker "columnist" is a tard.


Our government cannot balance the budget.
Our government has a secret torture policy, and applies this around the world.
Our government free's rapists and molesters and murders....
Our government honors illegals, offering them education and healthcare while our own people suffer and become more indebted (over a BILLION)
Our government would spend billions on a heathcare system while states are closing schools an libraries. Obama should be impeached for pushing this farking shiat.
Our government actually allowed the human genome to be patented!!!! WTF?!
Our government feels up old ladies and children in the airports.
Our government sells off our lands.


If I had a copy of the NY'er I'd keep it by the toilet and wipes ass with it.
 
2012-06-28 12:59:23 AM
"I don't know if America has a leadership problem; it certainly has a followership problem," Brooks laments. "Vast majorities of Americans don't trust their institutions."

Gee. I wonder why?

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2012-06-28 01:00:22 AM
/Thought I would share
 
2012-06-28 01:01:56 AM

Zoomaster: /Thought I would share


/won't let me hot link, I will try another site
 
2012-06-28 01:13:49 AM
I work in a big corporate office in Chicago, and as we looked out the window and saw tugboats equipped with machine guns cruising down the Chicago riverwalk, and police donning riot gear during the NATO summit, my whole office was cheering, hoping desperately to see Occupy protesters publicly beaten by law enforcement. "I wanna see some farking hippie blood!"

We're really good at blindly following authority. Authority's just really good at kissing our asses and getting us to convince ourselves to submit to their whims.
 
2012-06-28 01:15:00 AM

Gyrfalcon: farkityfarker: MyEnamine: Most Americans are very authoritarian. They followed Bush into war, love football coaches, and worship white Jesus. Hierarchy is what they know and understand. Which is why having Obama as their president is such a problem. Obama's position violates their flawed social hierarchy.

Obama's just as militaristic and authoritarian as Bush was.

Shouldn't you be playing under the bridge with randommotherf*cker? You can jerk each other off after you make your stupid and pointless comments.


Yeah, I'm trolling.

In the mean time, Obama kept Bush's Secretary of Defense for 2.5 years.

How stupid do people have to be to not see what's going on?
 
2012-06-28 01:21:46 AM

Fart Roll: All true. That New Yorker "columnist" is a tard.


Our government cannot balance the budget.
Our government has a secret torture policy, and applies this around the world.
Our government free's rapists and molesters and murders....
Our government honors illegals, offering them education and healthcare while our own people suffer and become more indebted (over a BILLION)
Our government would spend billions on a heathcare system while states are closing schools an libraries. Obama should be impeached for pushing this farking shiat.
Our government actually allowed the human genome to be patented!!!! WTF?!
Our government feels up old ladies and children in the airports.
Our government sells off our lands.


If I had a copy of the NY'er I'd keep it by the toilet and wipes ass with it.



Another Fark Independent typing complete nonsense.
 
2012-06-28 01:48:01 AM

intelligent comment below: Fart Roll: All true. That New Yorker "columnist" is a tard.


Our government cannot balance the budget.
Our government has a secret torture policy, and applies this around the world.
Our government free's rapists and molesters and murders....
Our government honors illegals, offering them education and healthcare while our own people suffer and become more indebted (over a BILLION)
Our government would spend billions on a heathcare system while states are closing schools an libraries. Obama should be impeached for pushing this farking shiat.
Our government actually allowed the human genome to be patented!!!! WTF?!
Our government feels up old ladies and children in the airports.
Our government sells off our lands.


If I had a copy of the NY'er I'd keep it by the toilet and wipes ass with it.


Another Fark Independent typing complete nonsense.



What are you, Obama's butt boy?
Pull yer pants up and find a rest stop somewhere.
*not interested*
 
2012-06-28 01:50:32 AM

AnotherDisillusionedCollegeStudent: Shaggy_C: Fark Me To Tears: It's called "Part of what it is to be an American" and it is one of the things that sets us apart from other countries in the world. People blindly following governmental authority is what's wrong with a lot of other countries. Always questioning/challenging government authority is part of what keeps this country from becoming another North Korea.

[s3.amazonaws.com image 400x400]

What "sets America apart" is that we fell into line and obeyed authority during WWII. You didn't see people at home boo-hooing the war effort, everyone was eating up the government's propaganda and doing what needed to be done. We were on the winning side and didn't have to fight on our own territory, meaning that we were primed for decades of dominance which we still haven't relinquished despite our best efforts to shoot ourselves in the foot. America is a nation of backwards, greedy, and angry people who act like bullies to make up for their own insecurities. The only thing that sets us apart these days is our military might. In the great grand scheme of things, we're but a blip.

What sets America apart from the rest of the world is two oceans and a strait.


Three oceans. One may be covered in ice, but it is still an ocean.
 
2012-06-28 02:00:16 AM
ctrl + f "bunk"

0 of 0

really?

/will be in mine
 
2012-06-28 02:29:11 AM

Marcus Aurelius: [www.prisonersofthecensus.org image 400x300]


I wonder what happened in 1980?
 
2012-06-28 02:30:40 AM

TheJoe03: ontariolightning: Why a picture of Superman in the article? He's half Canadian

Thought he was from Krypton and was raised in Iowa.


Would Superman be considered an anchor baby if only his parents hadn't been killed? Or is he an illegal alien?
 
2012-06-28 02:43:45 AM

Gyrfalcon: TheJoe03: ontariolightning: Why a picture of Superman in the article? He's half Canadian

Thought he was from Krypton and was raised in Iowa.

Would Superman be considered an anchor baby if only his parents hadn't been killed? Or is he an illegal alien?


I believe Clark Kent is an immigrant refugee.

Superman doesn't give a shiat about a green card, he's goddamn Superman.
 
2012-06-28 02:56:26 AM
Holy shiat, love you farkers that rip libertarians, tea party, and states rights while espousing the fact the US is full of racist, fundamentalist, and fascist sociopaths. You harp on free speech while clamoring for hate speech laws, you fully support flag burning, however call something or someone gay and it's the indignation hour. You get sopping wet over wikileaks, and have a mental breakdown when a request is made for pertinent documents to fast and furious. What terrifies me is the righteousness of you, the I'm right and I'm so absolutely right I think everyone else should have to believe the way I do for the collective good. Obviously we're a nation of religious fascist fundamentalist, That point is driven home at every stoning for a women who doesn't cover her shins, or caning for for a blogger ripping our government. Just stop, you've got it good, you're not some kind of revolutionary, you're spoiled children outraged you don't get your way immediately on every single issue.
 
2012-06-28 03:00:21 AM

Fart Roll: Our government would spend billions on a heathcare system while states are closing schools an libraries. Obama should be impeached for pushing this farking shiat.


?

States waste shiat-loads of cash every year, constantly push for more states rights, and then turn around and blame the federal government for their woes. Can't blame Obama for that.

Oh and healthcare is kind of a priority and we should be spending a fark ton more on it. All those dollars should come directly from the military budget.
 
2012-06-28 03:10:45 AM

Nerdhurter: Holy shiat, love you farkers that rip libertarians, tea party, and states rights while espousing the fact the US is full of racist, fundamentalist, and fascist sociopaths. You harp on free speech while clamoring for hate speech laws, you fully support flag burning, however call something or someone gay and it's the indignation hour. You get sopping wet over wikileaks, and have a mental breakdown when a request is made for pertinent documents to fast and furious. What terrifies me is the righteousness of you, the I'm right and I'm so absolutely right I think everyone else should have to believe the way I do for the collective good. Obviously we're a nation of religious fascist fundamentalist, That point is driven home at every stoning for a women who doesn't cover her shins, or caning for for a blogger ripping our government. Just stop, you've got it good, you're not some kind of revolutionary, you're spoiled children outraged you don't get your way immediately on every single issue.


You gave that straw man a good lashing. Well done sir.
 
2012-06-28 03:15:53 AM

starsrift: Gyrfalcon: TheJoe03: ontariolightning: Why a picture of Superman in the article? He's half Canadian

Thought he was from Krypton and was raised in Iowa.

Would Superman be considered an anchor baby if only his parents hadn't been killed? Or is he an illegal alien?

I believe Clark Kent is an immigrant refugee.

Superman doesn't give a shiat about a green card, he's goddamn Superman.



Clark Kent was granted US Citizenship. "You don't need no stinkin' green card"
Superman was granted citizenship - not to the US, but to the Earth. The official secret court ruling allows for one Kryponite immigrant per..ever. Until amended, if needed.
- Book of wikileaks 19:38:2038
 
2012-06-28 03:16:26 AM
Thanks mister take the military budget and spend it on healthcare, in the future my post will be as focused as yours regarding the thread in question.
 
2012-06-28 03:22:36 AM

Nerdhurter: Thanks mister take the military budget and spend it on healthcare, in the future my post will be as focused as yours regarding the thread in question.


Is someone drunk? Or do you just have problems in general with cogent thinking?
 
2012-06-28 03:25:57 AM
I love the Friday debates with David Brooks on NPR, but I wouldn't even call him a closet liberal at this point. I appreciate the thought process that might push his opinion to the middle but this is just a spectacular viewpoint from someone who is expected to tow the line. Obey (individualism when you disagree not needed)..
 
2012-06-28 03:27:45 AM

MayoSlather: Fart Roll: Our government would spend billions on a heathcare system while states are closing schools an libraries. Obama should be impeached for pushing this farking shiat.

?

States waste shiat-loads of cash every year, constantly push for more states rights, and then turn around and blame the federal government for their woes. Can't blame Obama for that.

Oh and healthcare is kind of a priority and we should be spending a fark ton more on it. All those dollars should come directly from the military budget.


Your above statement has as much to do with the story this thread is based on as my rant above, you smarmy little socialist.
 
2012-06-28 03:37:22 AM

Nerdhurter: MayoSlather: Fart Roll: Our government would spend billions on a heathcare system while states are closing schools an libraries. Obama should be impeached for pushing this farking shiat.

?

States waste shiat-loads of cash every year, constantly push for more states rights, and then turn around and blame the federal government for their woes. Can't blame Obama for that.

Oh and healthcare is kind of a priority and we should be spending a fark ton more on it. All those dollars should come directly from the military budget.

Your above statement has as much to do with the story this thread is based on as my rant above, you smarmy little socialist.


Stop, don't, ouch... you're hurting my feelings calling me a socialist.

Seriously, you're drunk aren't you?
 
2012-06-28 03:48:58 AM
Yeah I'm drunk slick, everyone that doesn't abide in your little echo chamber is drunk, or they're a troll. That's the fark fallback right, here's the next step threaten to hit ignore, because god knows your little terrified of competition ears can't be sullied with a viewpoint that doesn't match your own.

/Seriously you're a socialist?
 
2012-06-28 03:53:58 AM

Nerdhurter: everyone that doesn't abide in your little echo chamber is drunk, or they're a troll.


Can we just call you stupid?
 
2012-06-28 04:00:15 AM

MayoSlather: Fart Roll: Our government would spend billions on a heathcare system while states are closing schools an libraries. Obama should be impeached for pushing this farking shiat.

?

States waste shiat-loads of cash every year, constantly push for more states rights, and then turn around and blame the federal government for their woes. Can't blame Obama for that.

Oh and healthcare is kind of a priority and we should be spending a fark ton more on it. All those dollars should come directly from the military budget.



The truth: There are not enough intelligent doctors to go around. The result of "everyone gets care" is "lets make more doctors by lowering the standards" -- our standards are already so low that a good portion of the malpractice lawsuits really are malpractice.. Press here for 'elbow hurts'. Press here for 'knee hurts'.

The Truth: States representatives are often money sucking liars and should be blamed for their losses, although, they would and should have lots more funds if we were not so in debt due to the federal governments corporate run wars. You can't blame Obama for that - he is smart to not speak the truth on this matter, it takes a very brave and strong president to stand up to the worlds most powerful secret military - they do believe they are better than him - and he would be putting his life at risk to stand up for the people of this country. Can we really ask that of him? Think I'm crazy? Then you don't believe the CIA water boards people around the world in secret prisons? Holds people against their will - a direct violation of our own constitutional believes? He is the commander-in-chief of the most horrendous evil since the inquisition. He is scared to death. The people he represents should be shouting in the streets but they are not - they are watching the TV controlled by the same group. And he talks about nonsensical healthcare bills. Wonder why?

Furthermore, the wars are for resources which might be limited - without those resources our great cities will crumble, powerless, no A/C, no heat, no cars, no trains, no food. We as a planet are overpopulated, and must reduce our populations - dying faster helps. With a population of 50m on the earth, those who are left could enjoy the luxury of coal burning for 1000 years without destroying the planet. Thus there is no need for a healthcare system, but if we go through with it, it will be stupid anyway.
 
2012-06-28 04:00:35 AM

TheJoe03: Nerdhurter: everyone that doesn't abide in your little echo chamber is drunk, or they're a troll.

Can we just call you stupid?


The "former Sonics" guy, yeah man go for it, Let me go do the Would you have been a nazi test so you can have something else to talk about Expatriate.
 
2012-06-28 04:00:49 AM

Nerdhurter: Holy shiat, love you farkers that rip libertarians, tea party, and states rights while espousing the fact the US is full of racist, fundamentalist, and fascist sociopaths. You harp on free speech while clamoring for hate speech laws, you fully support flag burning, however call something or someone gay and it's the indignation hour. You get sopping wet over wikileaks, and have a mental breakdown when a request is made for pertinent documents to fast and furious.


Do you really believe that all liberals share such views? I myself support free speech (meaning I don't believe in hate speech laws and I do believe flag burning should be allowed), I also don't care when people use "gay" to mean lame (I don't consider myself politically correct) but I do find it offensive it you lob it against actual gay people out of hate, I somewhat support wikileaks, and I do believe Obama is being sketchy about this Fast and Furious nonsense and should release the documents. What you will find with liberal minded people is that we have varied views and most of us don't blindly follow leaders and strict ideologies.This is why the GOP has always been more unified and controlled.
 
2012-06-28 04:02:00 AM

Nerdhurter: The "former Sonics" guy, yeah man go for it, Let me go do the Would you have been a nazi test so you can have something else to talk about Expatriate.


I'd love to hear what a sociopath like you would get on a test like that.
 
2012-06-28 04:03:12 AM
Again with the straw man. See the trick to argumentation is that you're supposed to address an actual point of contention not simply assign a bunch of undesirable characteristics on an opponent. Thus thinking you've discredited them because you have falsely labeled them.

You've failed to make a cohesive point anywhere in your ramblings. I was giving you an out by suggesting you were merely drunk, which there is no shame in. However by not taking this out it leads me to believe you're sober and thus just naturally dull and boorish.
 
2012-06-28 04:06:00 AM

Nerdhurter: Thanks mister take the military budget and spend it on healthcare, in the future my post will be as focused as yours regarding the thread in question.



Yeah. Fark keeping people healthy.

We gotta keep up the welfare for red states!
 
2012-06-28 04:07:07 AM
Someone is unhappy.

Here.

Try this. It's good for what ailes ya.

www.popularvirals.com
 
2012-06-28 04:07:30 AM

Fart Roll: The truth: There are not enough intelligent doctors to go around. The result of "everyone gets care" is "lets make more doctors by lowering the standards" -- our standards are already so low that a good portion of the malpractice lawsuits really are malpractice.. Press here for 'elbow hurts'. Press here for 'knee hurts'.

The Truth: States representatives are often money sucking liars and should be blamed for their losses, although, they would and should have lots more funds if we were not so in debt due to the federal governments corporate run wars. You can't blame Obama for that - he is smart to not speak the truth on this matter, it takes a very brave and strong president to stand up to the worlds most powerful secret military - they do believe they are better than him - and he would be putting his life at risk to stand up for the people of this country. Can we really ask that of him? Think I'm crazy? Then you don't believe the CIA water boards people around the world in secret prisons? Holds people against their will - a direct violation of our own constitutional believes? He is the commander-in-chief of the most horrendous evil since the inquisition. He is scared to death. The people he represents should be shouting in the streets but they are not - they are watching the TV controlled by the same group. And he talks about nonsensical healthcare bills. Wonder why?

Furthermore, the wars are for resources which might be limited - without those resources our great cities will crumble, powerless, no A/C, no heat, no cars, no trains, no food. We as a planet are overpopulated, and must reduce our populations - dying faster helps. With a population of 50m on the earth, those who are left could enjoy the luxury of coal burning for 1000 years without destroying the planet. Thus there is no need for a healthcare system, but if we go through with it, it will be stupid anyway.



You mad bro
 
2012-06-28 04:08:52 AM

TheJoe03: Nerdhurter: Holy shiat, love you farkers that rip libertarians, tea party, and states rights while espousing the fact the US is full of racist, fundamentalist, and fascist sociopaths. You harp on free speech while clamoring for hate speech laws, you fully support flag burning, however call something or someone gay and it's the indignation hour. You get sopping wet over wikileaks, and have a mental breakdown when a request is made for pertinent documents to fast and furious.

Do you really believe that all liberals share such views? I myself support free speech (meaning I don't believe in hate speech laws and I do believe flag burning should be allowed), I also don't care when people use "gay" to mean lame (I don't consider myself politically correct) but I do find it offensive it you lob it against actual gay people out of hate, I somewhat support wikileaks, and I do believe Obama is being sketchy about this Fast and Furious nonsense and should release the documents. What you will find with liberal minded people is that we have varied views and most of us don't blindly follow leaders and strict ideologies.This is why the GOP has always been more unified and controlled.


I know you didn't just type that with a straight face, if you can't see the hypocrisy in your above paragraph then it's probably time to take the nazi test again.

/ This sociopath wouldn't take some ridiculous internet test to try to have some shred of idiocy to define myself with.
 
2012-06-28 04:10:24 AM
vipdictionary.com

Getting a real kick, etc.

/Hot.

As to Brook's disjointed ramblings over whether or not Americans are just the right height in terms of authoritarianism versus libertarianism and TReason's (the T is silent) word salad musings on the topic i think the [WTFAMIREADING.jpg] pretty much summed it up nicely.

/Actually just showed up to make sure either Zoot or her twin sister Dingo were referenced.
//Leaving thoroughly chuffed.
 
2012-06-28 04:12:13 AM

Dinjiin: I know the meaning that the original author of that statement meant, but it can also be turned upside down. We do need to relearn how to follow. We need to learn how to stand behind the right sort of leader. Many of the leaders in our corporate world are narcissists or sociopaths. Our representatives in government often aren't much better. Those sorts of people shouldn't be followed. So we as a people need to reform the way these people become leaders, as well as changing the culture and image of what it means to be a leader.


As long as Snooki can be seen as a cultural icon, that ain't never gonna change.
 
2012-06-28 04:12:43 AM

Nerdhurter: I know you didn't just type that with a straight face, if you can't see the hypocrisy in your above paragraph then it's probably time to take the nazi test again.


What is hypocritical about my beliefs? I also don't see the problem with some internet test being on my profile. Your arguments suck and I think you spend too much time on other people's profiles and nitpicking irrelevant things.
 
2012-06-28 04:14:00 AM
I has a bad feelin 'bout this drop, Hicks.
 
2012-06-28 04:15:20 AM

MayoSlather: Again with the straw man. See the trick to argumentation is that you're supposed to address an actual point of contention not simply assign a bunch of undesirable characteristics on an opponent. Thus thinking you've discredited them because you have falsely labeled them.

You've failed to make a cohesive point anywhere in your ramblings. I was giving you an out by suggesting you were merely drunk, which there is no shame in. However by not taking this out it leads me to believe you're sober and thus just naturally dull and boorish.


My man, keep that thesaurus open and sling as many intelligent sounding words out as you like (are you watching BBC Sherlock right now?), this strawman I'm going after, what subject were you and I debating that caused me to go to a strawman?
 
2012-06-28 04:25:32 AM
: What you will find with liberal minded people is that we have varied views and most of us don't blindly follow leaders and strict ideologies.This is why the GOP has always been more unified and controlled.

Well I don't know this might be what I find hypocritical, I'm sure there are no conservatives who, just for example, favor a strong military, back gay marriage, support states rights, favor legalization of marijuana, are fine with Guantanamo, but are against warrantless wiretapping. This is what kills me, "well look at those lockstep conservatives what a bunch of sheep." Nope sorry guys there's some nuance on the other side as well.
 
2012-06-28 04:30:53 AM

Nerdhurter: Nope sorry guys there's some nuance on the other side as well.


I didn't say there wasn't, you are the one that made a general blanket statement about liberals. That is what I'm arguing with you about but you don't get it. You are basically making my initial argument against your statement. At this point I must conclude you are indeed a troll. None of this changes the fact that Republicans generally are more unified (notice how I said GOP and not conservatives in both this post and the last) and lockstep.
 
2012-06-28 04:33:15 AM

intelligent comment below: Fart Roll: The truth: There are not enough intelligent doctors to go around. The result of "everyone gets care" is "lets make more doctors by lowering the standards" -- our standards are already so low that a good portion of the malpractice lawsuits really are malpractice.. Press here for 'elbow hurts'. Press here for 'knee hurts'.

The Truth: States representatives are often money sucking liars and should be blamed for their losses, although, they would and should have lots more funds if we were not so in debt due to the federal governments corporate run wars. You can't blame Obama for that - he is smart to not speak the truth on this matter, it takes a very brave and strong president to stand up to the worlds most powerful secret military - they do believe they are better than him - and he would be putting his life at risk to stand up for the people of this country. Can we really ask that of him? Think I'm crazy? Then you don't believe the CIA water boards people around the world in secret prisons? Holds people against their will - a direct violation of our own constitutional believes? He is the commander-in-chief of the most horrendous evil since the inquisition. He is scared to death. The people he represents should be shouting in the streets but they are not - they are watching the TV controlled by the same group. And he talks about nonsensical healthcare bills. Wonder why?

Furthermore, the wars are for resources which might be limited - without those resources our great cities will crumble, powerless, no A/C, no heat, no cars, no trains, no food. We as a planet are overpopulated, and must reduce our populations - dying faster helps. With a population of 50m on the earth, those who are left could enjoy the luxury of coal burning for 1000 years without destroying the planet. Thus there is no need for a healthcare system, but if we go through with it, it will be stupid anyway.


You mad bro



Nah, nothing can be done about it. Unless you know some way to stand up to them. lol.

As the wwii memory's fade, the new world comes into focus.

History repeats itself. It's only a matter of time.
 
2012-06-28 04:46:50 AM

Fart Roll: intelligent comment below: Fart Roll: The truth: There are not enough intelligent doctors to go around. The result of "everyone gets care" is "lets make more doctors by lowering the standards" -- our standards are already so low that a good portion of the malpractice lawsuits really are malpractice.. Press here for 'elbow hurts'. Press here for 'knee hurts'.

The Truth: States representatives are often money sucking liars and should be blamed for their losses, although, they would and should have lots more funds if we were not so in debt due to the federal governments corporate run wars. You can't blame Obama for that - he is smart to not speak the truth on this matter, it takes a very brave and strong president to stand up to the worlds most powerful secret military - they do believe they are better than him - and he would be putting his life at risk to stand up for the people of this country. Can we really ask that of him? Think I'm crazy? Then you don't believe the CIA water boards people around the world in secret prisons? Holds people against their will - a direct violation of our own constitutional believes? He is the commander-in-chief of the most horrendous evil since the inquisition. He is scared to death. The people he represents should be shouting in the streets but they are not - they are watching the TV controlled by the same group. And he talks about nonsensical healthcare bills. Wonder why?

Furthermore, the wars are for resources which might be limited - without those resources our great cities will crumble, powerless, no A/C, no heat, no cars, no trains, no food. We as a planet are overpopulated, and must reduce our populations - dying faster helps. With a population of 50m on the earth, those who are left could enjoy the luxury of coal burning for 1000 years without destroying the planet. Thus there is no need for a healthcare system, but if we go through with it, it will be stupid anyway.


You mad bro


Nah, nothing can be done about it. Unless ...


You can cease to exist. Every last one of you. Its the only solution. You guys ready for that? didn't think so.
 
2012-06-28 04:59:53 AM
Nerdhurter: Holy shiat, love you farkers that rip libertarians, tea party, and states rights while espousing the fact the US is full of racist, fundamentalist, and fascist sociopaths.

If you don't understand the link between State's rights" rhetoric and racism in US politics then maybe the entertainment tab is better suited to you.

You harp on free speech while clamoring for hate speech laws,

Can't see the difference there? This is my surprised face. :>I

Hey, you know who else was a big proponent of hate speech...

you fully support flag burning, however call something or someone gay and it's the indignation hour.

Burning the flag is free speech. Hating on gays is hate speech. This isn't brain science.

/Or rocket surgery.

You get sopping wet over wikileaks, and have a mental breakdown when a request is made for pertinent documents to fast and furious.

The left have a wide array of opinions over wikileaks.

F&F, like Solyndra, is an example of a RW media inculcated fauxrage constructed pretty much for people like you.

What terrifies me is the righteousness of you, the I'm right and I'm so absolutely right I think everyone else should have to believe the way I do for the collective good.

What terrifies most people about the politicized religious right in the US is the fact that they support immoral positions like being against birth control, gay rights and a woman's right to choose and do so in the name of morality.

Obviously we're a nation of religious fascist fundamentalist, That point is driven home at every stoning for a women who doesn't cover her shins, or caning for for a blogger ripping our government.

Obviously those are the only forms of religious oppression on the planet.

*rolls eyes*

Just stop, you've got it good, you're not some kind of revolutionary, you're spoiled children outraged you don't get your way immediately on every single issue.

Stop what? Who are you talking to here? Are you saying that Brooks is right and people should be more submissive to authority and never complain or seek social justice through political change?

Here's the deal Right Wing Authoritarianism isn't a theory it's fact.

The lock step left is a myth developed by a right that loves to project it's own inadequacies onto it's opposition at every available opportunity.

Trying to find consensus among the left, in many cases, is like herding cats.

The left are more truly the big tent party and inevitably it has a wider diversity of opinion, the right are all about rigidity of opinion and fall in line time after time. Both sides see the others bent as being their biggest weakness and their own as being their biggest strength.

In a way they're both right.

/Ya know, there's a real Twilight Zone-esque aspect to late night Farking on the Politics Tab.
//I quite enjoy that.
 
2012-06-28 05:19:40 AM

VJStinger: Fart Roll: intelligent comment below: Fart Roll: The truth: There are not enough intelligent doctors to go around. The result of "everyone gets care" is "lets make more doctors by lowering the standards" -- our standards are already so low that a good portion of the malpractice lawsuits really are malpractice.. Press here for 'elbow hurts'. Press here for 'knee hurts'.

The Truth: States representatives are often money sucking liars and should be blamed for their losses, although, they would and should have lots more funds if we were not so in debt due to the federal governments corporate run wars. You can't blame Obama for that - he is smart to not speak the truth on this matter, it takes a very brave and strong president to stand up to the worlds most powerful secret military - they do believe they are better than him - and he would be putting his life at risk to stand up for the people of this country. Can we really ask that of him? Think I'm crazy? Then you don't believe the CIA water boards people around the world in secret prisons? Holds people against their will - a direct violation of our own constitutional believes? He is the commander-in-chief of the most horrendous evil since the inquisition. He is scared to death. The people he represents should be shouting in the streets but they are not - they are watching the TV controlled by the same group. And he talks about nonsensical healthcare bills. Wonder why?

Furthermore, the wars are for resources which might be limited - without those resources our great cities will crumble, powerless, no A/C, no heat, no cars, no trains, no food. We as a planet are overpopulated, and must reduce our populations - dying faster helps. With a population of 50m on the earth, those who are left could enjoy the luxury of coal burning for 1000 years without destroying the planet. Thus there is no need for a healthcare system, but if we go through with it, it will be stupid anyway.


You mad bro


Nah, nothing can be done about it . Unless ...

You can cease to exist. Every last one of you. Its the only solution. You guys ready for that? didn't think so.




Believe what you will.
Desire what you will.
The truth remains.
Genocide History

We are ready to witness the next bigger and better, the greatest of all, the return to natural Earth.
Billions deemed by as worthless bulk will be culled.
The survivors / selected will enjoy a world ripe for the picking.

/I hope they remember to keep a few nuclear scientists around to shut down the death-reactors.
//And Bones. The whole series. In stone tablets even.
//And Star Wars. Long Live Harrison Ford. And 3ppo. And...
 
2012-06-28 05:51:58 AM
ny times arsehole should go fark hisself. this country would be in better shape if we had on-going vigilante justice and political assassinations. keep your guns locked up nice & safe, NRA pussies.
 
2012-06-28 06:05:56 AM

Fart Roll: All true. That New Yorker "columnist" is a tard.


Our government cannot balance the budget.
Our government has a secret torture policy, and applies this around the world.
Our government free's rapists and molesters and murders....
Our government honors illegals, offering them education and healthcare while our own people suffer and become more indebted (over a BILLION)
Our government would spend billions on a heathcare system while states are closing schools an libraries. Obama should be impeached for pushing this farking shiat.
Our government actually allowed the human genome to be patented!!!! WTF?!
Our government feels up old ladies and children in the airports.
Our government sells off our lands.


If I had a copy of the NY'er I'd keep it by the toilet and wipes ass with it.


NY'er is the New Yorker, a magazine. David Brooks, a conservative who is indeed an idiot, works for the New York Times, a newspaper. I suggest that both the magazine and newspaper are bad as toilet paper, but it's your choice. Just avoid reading Brooks. He is an idiot.
 
2012-06-28 06:25:40 AM

Fart Roll: DDDDDEEEERRRPPPPPPPPPPP


Fark deserves a better class of troll. This laziness sucks.
 
2012-06-28 06:29:13 AM

3_Butt_Cheeks: Brought to you by your friends at Starbucks™ and iSheeple™


No, just by somebody who is actually paying attention.

By the way your shoulders should probably serve some other purpose than preventing your head from moving further up your rear. You should look in to that.
 
2012-06-28 06:47:11 AM
Wow, I can't believe anyone would think Americans aren't obedient enough.

If anything, we're far, FAR too obedient.

People trust their government, churches, and popular opinion - three institutions that shouldn't be trusted with choosing so much as where to go for lunch, much less controlling people's lives.
 
2012-06-28 07:10:44 AM

DistendedPendulusFrenulum: I think Brooks is decrying an engineered rebellion against traditonal civil institutions. China tried something very similar with the Great Cultural Revolution.

.


Engineered by who? [Insert predictable response of some troll casing accusations on a political party he doesn't like]

The president (current and past) ultimately rules this nation with moral authority. We see him as the leader we've chosen. Even if some of us didn't choose him, most of that lot still respect the office by choice. This means He has full command of the military and the militia. Under the right circumstance, all those guns Obama helped sell would gladly do his bidding.
That authority trickles down throughout the entire government.

The American people do alot more "questioning" than they've ever done "resisting". Which is pretty amazing when the world thinks of us as being thuggish, unruly, ignorant, and armed to the teeth.
Other nations with far more conformist populaces have created some amazingly grizzly social disasters.

What happened in China (Russia, Serbia, Cambodia, etc...) was certainly engineered by people with a defined agenda.
What's happening in the US is more about the media fumbling on its way to sell copy, and partisans being partisans.
 
2012-06-28 08:54:57 AM

MyEnamine: Most Americans are very authoritarian. They followed Bush into war, love football coaches, and worship white Jesus. Hierarchy is what they know and understand. Which is why having Obama as their president is such a problem. Obama's position violates their flawed social hierarchy.


Spot frikking on. I've been watching my county for over 50 years here and it's like watching a retarded baby develop.
 
2012-06-28 09:02:07 AM
I was all excited by the headline and then I read the article. Talk killing it. Like glory-holing at the gas station, only to see the attendant walk back in wiping his mouth.
 
2012-06-28 09:05:04 AM
The ruling class and their pawns aren't rich and powerful because they are superior human beings. They're rich and powerful because our society is so broken that it rewards sociopathic behavior. They deserve nothing but contempt.
 
2012-06-28 09:05:19 AM
David Brooks is a silly man who writes for a silly paper.

Anyone who sees him should let him know.
 
2012-06-28 09:27:54 AM

Fart Roll: Our government cannot balance the budget.
Our government has a secret torture policy, and applies this around the world.
Our government free's rapists and molesters and murders....
Our government honors illegals, offering them education and healthcare while our own people suffer and become more indebted (over a BILLION)
Our government would spend billions on a heathcare system while states are closing schools an libraries. Obama should be impeached for pushing this farking shiat.
Our government actually allowed the human genome to be patented!!!! WTF?!
Our government feels up old ladies and children in the airports.
Our government sells off our lands.


And yet, you're dumb enough to elect most of the people responsible for this back to their offices. Dumber yet, if you try to change it, you just elect people from the other party responsible for this. And dumbest of all, those who see that the parties responsible for it are elected time and again drop out instead of making an actual change in their voting habits, allowing the government they allowed to remain by not voting to keep doing what they're doing; a passive endorsement of it.

/PICK. ANOTHER. NAME.
 
2012-06-28 11:19:57 AM
A healthy distrust of authority has long been ingrained into the American cultural zeitgeist. Both conservatives and liberals have run afoul of it, often at the same time, and usually with a decent understanding of why the other side runs afoul of it but a big blind spot as to why they themselves do.
 
2012-06-28 12:02:20 PM
Wow, in comparison, Nerdhunter is making our resident internet dentist sound cogent. That's pretty impressive.
 
2012-06-28 01:57:27 PM
It helps a little if you can distinguish "dominance" from "prestige"; and appearance from actuality.
 
2012-06-28 05:23:59 PM

IlGreven: Fart Roll: Our government cannot balance the budget.
Our government has a secret torture policy, and applies this around the world.
Our government free's rapists and molesters and murders....
Our government honors illegals, offering them education and healthcare while our own people suffer and become more indebted (over a BILLION)
Our government would spend billions on a heathcare system while states are closing schools an libraries. Obama should be impeached for pushing this farking shiat.
Our government actually allowed the human genome to be patented!!!! WTF?!
Our government feels up old ladies and children in the airports.
Our government sells off our lands.

And yet, you're dumb enough to elect most of the people responsible for this back to their offices. Dumber yet, if you try to change it, you just elect people from the other party responsible for this. And dumbest of all, those who see that the parties responsible for it are elected time and again drop out instead of making an actual change in their voting habits, allowing the government they allowed to remain by not voting to keep doing what they're doing; a passive endorsement of it.

/PICK. ANOTHER. NAME.



The elections are completely controlled by multiple means.

The dire financial state of our country proves the ineffectiveness of our system of government.

So go ahead, vote, Vote for the party that CAN and WILL balance the budget.

/nick Pick Another Name
 
2012-06-28 11:20:08 PM

Fart Roll: The dire financial state of our country proves the ineffectiveness of our system of government.



No, it proves you can't lower taxes and get involved in 2 wars without paying for them

It's a failure of the 25% of society who voted for George W Bush, twice.
 
2012-06-29 01:44:17 PM

intelligent comment below: Fart Roll: The dire financial state of our country proves the ineffectiveness of our system of government.


No, it proves you can't lower taxes and get involved in 2 wars without paying for them

It's a failure of the 25% of society who voted for George W Bush, twice.



Every aspect of this is completely wrong...

1) Wars are VERY profitable. The profits go to the rich, while the 1% pay for them.
2) The debt started long before Bush (see #1)
3) Voting has little to do with who becomes president.
 
2012-06-29 02:44:21 PM
99%
 
2012-06-29 03:42:02 PM

Fart Roll: 1) Wars are VERY profitable. The profits go to the rich, while the 1% pay for them.
2) The debt started long before Bush (see #1)
3) Voting has little to do with who becomes president.



what the fark

1) the topic here is government, not military contractors
2) see chart
cdn.theatlantic.com

3) on great a "republic" not "democracy" idiot
 
2012-06-29 11:38:52 PM

intelligent comment below: Fart Roll: 1) Wars are VERY profitable. The profits go to the rich, while the 1% pay for them.
2) The debt started long before Bush (see #1)
3) Voting has little to do with who becomes president.


what the fark

1) the topic here is government, not military contractors
2) see chart
cdn.theatlantic.com

3) on great a "republic" not "democracy" idiot




Your babel fools nobody.
Change your name, for you have nothing intelligent to say.
Better sill, simply stop speaking! You embarrass yourself.

Because, you see, I see what you did there.
Piss on you.

/not that anyone will ever bother reading what you say.
 
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