Holy shiat, love you farkers that rip libertarians, tea party, and states rights while espousing the fact the US is full of racist, fundamentalist, and fascist sociopaths. You harp on free speech while clamoring for hate speech laws, you fully support flag burning, however call something or someone gay and it's the indignation hour. You get sopping wet over wikileaks, and have a mental breakdown when a request is made for pertinent documents to fast and furious. What terrifies me is the righteousness of you, the I'm right and I'm so absolutely right I think everyone else should have to believe the way I do for the collective good. Obviously we're a nation of religious fascist fundamentalist, That point is driven home at every stoning for a women who doesn't cover her shins, or caning for for a blogger ripping our government. Just stop, you've got it good, you're not some kind of revolutionary, you're spoiled children outraged you don't get your way immediately on every single issue.

starsrift: Gyrfalcon: TheJoe03: ontariolightning: Why a picture of Superman in the article? He's half Canadian

Thought he was from Krypton and was raised in Iowa.

Would Superman be considered an anchor baby if only his parents hadn't been killed? Or is he an illegal alien?

I believe Clark Kent is an immigrant refugee.

Superman doesn't give a shiat about a green card, he's goddamn Superman.


Clark Kent was granted US Citizenship. "You don't need no stinkin' green card"
Superman was granted citizenship - not to the US, but to the Earth. The official secret court ruling allows for one Kryponite immigrant per..ever. Until amended, if needed.
- Book of wikileaks 19:38:2038

Thanks mister take the military budget and spend it on healthcare, in the future my post will be as focused as yours regarding the thread in question.

MayoSlather: Fart Roll: Our government would spend billions on a heathcare system while states are closing schools an libraries. Obama should be impeached for pushing this farking shiat.

?

States waste shiat-loads of cash every year, constantly push for more states rights, and then turn around and blame the federal government for their woes. Can't blame Obama for that.

Oh and healthcare is kind of a priority and we should be spending a fark ton more on it. All those dollars should come directly from the military budget.

Your above statement has as much to do with the story this thread is based on as my rant above, you smarmy little socialist.

Yeah I'm drunk slick, everyone that doesn't abide in your little echo chamber is drunk, or they're a troll. That's the fark fallback right, here's the next step threaten to hit ignore, because god knows your little terrified of competition ears can't be sullied with a viewpoint that doesn't match your own.

/Seriously you're a socialist?

MayoSlather: Fart Roll: Our government would spend billions on a heathcare system while states are closing schools an libraries. Obama should be impeached for pushing this farking shiat.

?

States waste shiat-loads of cash every year, constantly push for more states rights, and then turn around and blame the federal government for their woes. Can't blame Obama for that.

Oh and healthcare is kind of a priority and we should be spending a fark ton more on it. All those dollars should come directly from the military budget.


The truth: There are not enough intelligent doctors to go around. The result of "everyone gets care" is "lets make more doctors by lowering the standards" -- our standards are already so low that a good portion of the malpractice lawsuits really are malpractice.. Press here for 'elbow hurts'. Press here for 'knee hurts'.

The Truth: States representatives are often money sucking liars and should be blamed for their losses, although, they would and should have lots more funds if we were not so in debt due to the federal governments corporate run wars. You can't blame Obama for that - he is smart to not speak the truth on this matter, it takes a very brave and strong president to stand up to the worlds most powerful secret military - they do believe they are better than him - and he would be putting his life at risk to stand up for the people of this country. Can we really ask that of him? Think I'm crazy? Then you don't believe the CIA water boards people around the world in secret prisons? Holds people against their will - a direct violation of our own constitutional believes? He is the commander-in-chief of the most horrendous evil since the inquisition. He is scared to death. The people he represents should be shouting in the streets but they are not - they are watching the TV controlled by the same group. And he talks about nonsensical healthcare bills. Wonder why?

Furthermore, the wars are for resources which might be limited - without those resources our great cities will crumble, powerless, no A/C, no heat, no cars, no trains, no food. We as a planet are overpopulated, and must reduce our populations - dying faster helps. With a population of 50m on the earth, those who are left could enjoy the luxury of coal burning for 1000 years without destroying the planet. Thus there is no need for a healthcare system, but if we go through with it, it will be stupid anyway.

TheJoe03: Nerdhurter: everyone that doesn't abide in your little echo chamber is drunk, or they're a troll.

Can we just call you stupid?

The "former Sonics" guy, yeah man go for it, Let me go do the Would you have been a nazi test so you can have something else to talk about Expatriate.

Nerdhurter: Thanks mister take the military budget and spend it on healthcare, in the future my post will be as focused as yours regarding the thread in question.


Yeah. Fark keeping people healthy.

We gotta keep up the welfare for red states!

Fart Roll: The truth: There are not enough intelligent doctors to go around. The result of "everyone gets care" is "lets make more doctors by lowering the standards" -- our standards are already so low that a good portion of the malpractice lawsuits really are malpractice.. Press here for 'elbow hurts'. Press here for 'knee hurts'.

The Truth: States representatives are often money sucking liars and should be blamed for their losses, although, they would and should have lots more funds if we were not so in debt due to the federal governments corporate run wars. You can't blame Obama for that - he is smart to not speak the truth on this matter, it takes a very brave and strong president to stand up to the worlds most powerful secret military - they do believe they are better than him - and he would be putting his life at risk to stand up for the people of this country. Can we really ask that of him? Think I'm crazy? Then you don't believe the CIA water boards people around the world in secret prisons? Holds people against their will - a direct violation of our own constitutional believes? He is the commander-in-chief of the most horrendous evil since the inquisition. He is scared to death. The people he represents should be shouting in the streets but they are not - they are watching the TV controlled by the same group. And he talks about nonsensical healthcare bills. Wonder why?

Furthermore, the wars are for resources which might be limited - without those resources our great cities will crumble, powerless, no A/C, no heat, no cars, no trains, no food. We as a planet are overpopulated, and must reduce our populations - dying faster helps. With a population of 50m on the earth, those who are left could enjoy the luxury of coal burning for 1000 years without destroying the planet. Thus there is no need for a healthcare system, but if we go through with it, it will be stupid anyway.


You mad bro

TheJoe03: Nerdhurter: Holy shiat, love you farkers that rip libertarians, tea party, and states rights while espousing the fact the US is full of racist, fundamentalist, and fascist sociopaths. You harp on free speech while clamoring for hate speech laws, you fully support flag burning, however call something or someone gay and it's the indignation hour. You get sopping wet over wikileaks, and have a mental breakdown when a request is made for pertinent documents to fast and furious.

Do you really believe that all liberals share such views? I myself support free speech (meaning I don't believe in hate speech laws and I do believe flag burning should be allowed), I also don't care when people use "gay" to mean lame (I don't consider myself politically correct) but I do find it offensive it you lob it against actual gay people out of hate, I somewhat support wikileaks, and I do believe Obama is being sketchy about this Fast and Furious nonsense and should release the documents. What you will find with liberal minded people is that we have varied views and most of us don't blindly follow leaders and strict ideologies.This is why the GOP has always been more unified and controlled.

I know you didn't just type that with a straight face, if you can't see the hypocrisy in your above paragraph then it's probably time to take the nazi test again.

/ This sociopath wouldn't take some ridiculous internet test to try to have some shred of idiocy to define myself with.

Getting a real kick, etc.

/Hot.

As to Brook's disjointed ramblings over whether or not Americans are just the right height in terms of authoritarianism versus libertarianism and TReason's (the T is silent) word salad musings on the topic i think the [WTFAMIREADING.jpg] pretty much summed it up nicely.

/Actually just showed up to make sure either Zoot or her twin sister Dingo were referenced.
//Leaving thoroughly chuffed.

Dinjiin: I know the meaning that the original author of that statement meant, but it can also be turned upside down. We do need to relearn how to follow. We need to learn how to stand behind the right sort of leader. Many of the leaders in our corporate world are narcissists or sociopaths. Our representatives in government often aren't much better. Those sorts of people shouldn't be followed. So we as a people need to reform the way these people become leaders, as well as changing the culture and image of what it means to be a leader.

As long as Snooki can be seen as a cultural icon, that ain't never gonna change.

MayoSlather: Again with the straw man. See the trick to argumentation is that you're supposed to address an actual point of contention not simply assign a bunch of undesirable characteristics on an opponent. Thus thinking you've discredited them because you have falsely labeled them.

You've failed to make a cohesive point anywhere in your ramblings. I was giving you an out by suggesting you were merely drunk, which there is no shame in. However by not taking this out it leads me to believe you're sober and thus just naturally dull and boorish.

My man, keep that thesaurus open and sling as many intelligent sounding words out as you like (are you watching BBC Sherlock right now?), this strawman I'm going after, what subject were you and I debating that caused me to go to a strawman?

: What you will find with liberal minded people is that we have varied views and most of us don't blindly follow leaders and strict ideologies.This is why the GOP has always been more unified and controlled.

Well I don't know this might be what I find hypocritical, I'm sure there are no conservatives who, just for example, favor a strong military, back gay marriage, support states rights, favor legalization of marijuana, are fine with Guantanamo, but are against warrantless wiretapping. This is what kills me, "well look at those lockstep conservatives what a bunch of sheep." Nope sorry guys there's some nuance on the other side as well.

intelligent comment below: Fart Roll: The truth: There are not enough intelligent doctors to go around. The result of "everyone gets care" is "lets make more doctors by lowering the standards" -- our standards are already so low that a good portion of the malpractice lawsuits really are malpractice.. Press here for 'elbow hurts'. Press here for 'knee hurts'.

The Truth: States representatives are often money sucking liars and should be blamed for their losses, although, they would and should have lots more funds if we were not so in debt due to the federal governments corporate run wars. You can't blame Obama for that - he is smart to not speak the truth on this matter, it takes a very brave and strong president to stand up to the worlds most powerful secret military - they do believe they are better than him - and he would be putting his life at risk to stand up for the people of this country. Can we really ask that of him? Think I'm crazy? Then you don't believe the CIA water boards people around the world in secret prisons? Holds people against their will - a direct violation of our own constitutional believes? He is the commander-in-chief of the most horrendous evil since the inquisition. He is scared to death. The people he represents should be shouting in the streets but they are not - they are watching the TV controlled by the same group. And he talks about nonsensical healthcare bills. Wonder why?

Furthermore, the wars are for resources which might be limited - without those resources our great cities will crumble, powerless, no A/C, no heat, no cars, no trains, no food. We as a planet are overpopulated, and must reduce our populations - dying faster helps. With a population of 50m on the earth, those who are left could enjoy the luxury of coal burning for 1000 years without destroying the planet. Thus there is no need for a healthcare system, but if we go through with it, it will be stupid anyway.


You mad bro


Nah, nothing can be done about it. Unless you know some way to stand up to them. lol.

As the wwii memory's fade, the new world comes into focus.

History repeats itself. It's only a matter of time.

Fart Roll: intelligent comment below: Fart Roll: The truth: There are not enough intelligent doctors to go around. The result of "everyone gets care" is "lets make more doctors by lowering the standards" -- our standards are already so low that a good portion of the malpractice lawsuits really are malpractice.. Press here for 'elbow hurts'. Press here for 'knee hurts'.

The Truth: States representatives are often money sucking liars and should be blamed for their losses, although, they would and should have lots more funds if we were not so in debt due to the federal governments corporate run wars. You can't blame Obama for that - he is smart to not speak the truth on this matter, it takes a very brave and strong president to stand up to the worlds most powerful secret military - they do believe they are better than him - and he would be putting his life at risk to stand up for the people of this country. Can we really ask that of him? Think I'm crazy? Then you don't believe the CIA water boards people around the world in secret prisons? Holds people against their will - a direct violation of our own constitutional believes? He is the commander-in-chief of the most horrendous evil since the inquisition. He is scared to death. The people he represents should be shouting in the streets but they are not - they are watching the TV controlled by the same group. And he talks about nonsensical healthcare bills. Wonder why?

Furthermore, the wars are for resources which might be limited - without those resources our great cities will crumble, powerless, no A/C, no heat, no cars, no trains, no food. We as a planet are overpopulated, and must reduce our populations - dying faster helps. With a population of 50m on the earth, those who are left could enjoy the luxury of coal burning for 1000 years without destroying the planet. Thus there is no need for a healthcare system, but if we go through with it, it will be stupid anyway.


You mad bro


Nah, nothing can be done about it. Unless ...

You can cease to exist. Every last one of you. Its the only solution. You guys ready for that? didn't think so.

Nerdhurter: Holy shiat, love you farkers that rip libertarians, tea party, and states rights while espousing the fact the US is full of racist, fundamentalist, and fascist sociopaths.

If you don't understand the link between State's rights" rhetoric and racism in US politics then maybe the entertainment tab is better suited to you.

You harp on free speech while clamoring for hate speech laws,

Can't see the difference there? This is my surprised face. :>I

Hey, you know who else was a big proponent of hate speech...

you fully support flag burning, however call something or someone gay and it's the indignation hour.

Burning the flag is free speech. Hating on gays is hate speech. This isn't brain science.

/Or rocket surgery.

You get sopping wet over wikileaks, and have a mental breakdown when a request is made for pertinent documents to fast and furious.

The left have a wide array of opinions over wikileaks.

F&F, like Solyndra, is an example of a RW media inculcated fauxrage constructed pretty much for people like you.

What terrifies me is the righteousness of you, the I'm right and I'm so absolutely right I think everyone else should have to believe the way I do for the collective good.

What terrifies most people about the politicized religious right in the US is the fact that they support immoral positions like being against birth control, gay rights and a woman's right to choose and do so in the name of morality.

Obviously we're a nation of religious fascist fundamentalist, That point is driven home at every stoning for a women who doesn't cover her shins, or caning for for a blogger ripping our government.

Obviously those are the only forms of religious oppression on the planet.

*rolls eyes*

Just stop, you've got it good, you're not some kind of revolutionary, you're spoiled children outraged you don't get your way immediately on every single issue.

Stop what? Who are you talking to here? Are you saying that Brooks is right and people should be more submissive to authority and never complain or seek social justice through political change?

Here's the deal Right Wing Authoritarianism isn't a theory it's fact.

The lock step left is a myth developed by a right that loves to project it's own inadequacies onto it's opposition at every available opportunity.

Trying to find consensus among the left, in many cases, is like herding cats.

The left are more truly the big tent party and inevitably it has a wider diversity of opinion, the right are all about rigidity of opinion and fall in line time after time. Both sides see the others bent as being their biggest weakness and their own as being their biggest strength.

In a way they're both right.

/Ya know, there's a real Twilight Zone-esque aspect to late night Farking on the Politics Tab.
//I quite enjoy that.

VJStinger: Fart Roll: intelligent comment below: Fart Roll: The truth: There are not enough intelligent doctors to go around. The result of "everyone gets care" is "lets make more doctors by lowering the standards" -- our standards are already so low that a good portion of the malpractice lawsuits really are malpractice.. Press here for 'elbow hurts'. Press here for 'knee hurts'.

The Truth: States representatives are often money sucking liars and should be blamed for their losses, although, they would and should have lots more funds if we were not so in debt due to the federal governments corporate run wars. You can't blame Obama for that - he is smart to not speak the truth on this matter, it takes a very brave and strong president to stand up to the worlds most powerful secret military - they do believe they are better than him - and he would be putting his life at risk to stand up for the people of this country. Can we really ask that of him? Think I'm crazy? Then you don't believe the CIA water boards people around the world in secret prisons? Holds people against their will - a direct violation of our own constitutional believes? He is the commander-in-chief of the most horrendous evil since the inquisition. He is scared to death. The people he represents should be shouting in the streets but they are not - they are watching the TV controlled by the same group. And he talks about nonsensical healthcare bills. Wonder why?

Furthermore, the wars are for resources which might be limited - without those resources our great cities will crumble, powerless, no A/C, no heat, no cars, no trains, no food. We as a planet are overpopulated, and must reduce our populations - dying faster helps. With a population of 50m on the earth, those who are left could enjoy the luxury of coal burning for 1000 years without destroying the planet. Thus there is no need for a healthcare system, but if we go through with it, it will be stupid anyway.


You mad bro


Nah, nothing can be done about it . Unless ...

You can cease to exist. Every last one of you. Its the only solution. You guys ready for that? didn't think so.



Believe what you will.
Desire what you will.
The truth remains.
Genocide History

We are ready to witness the next bigger and better, the greatest of all, the return to natural Earth.
Billions deemed by as worthless bulk will be culled.
The survivors / selected will enjoy a world ripe for the picking.

/I hope they remember to keep a few nuclear scientists around to shut down the death-reactors.
//And Bones. The whole series. In stone tablets even.
//And Star Wars. Long Live Harrison Ford. And 3ppo. And...

Fart Roll: All true. That New Yorker "columnist" is a tard.


Our government cannot balance the budget.
Our government has a secret torture policy, and applies this around the world.
Our government free's rapists and molesters and murders....
Our government honors illegals, offering them education and healthcare while our own people suffer and become more indebted (over a BILLION)
Our government would spend billions on a heathcare system while states are closing schools an libraries. Obama should be impeached for pushing this farking shiat.
Our government actually allowed the human genome to be patented!!!! WTF?!
Our government feels up old ladies and children in the airports.
Our government sells off our lands.


If I had a copy of the NY'er I'd keep it by the toilet and wipes ass with it.

NY'er is the New Yorker, a magazine. David Brooks, a conservative who is indeed an idiot, works for the New York Times, a newspaper. I suggest that both the magazine and newspaper are bad as toilet paper, but it's your choice. Just avoid reading Brooks. He is an idiot.

Fart Roll: DDDDDEEEERRRPPPPPPPPPPP

Fark deserves a better class of troll. This laziness sucks.

3_Butt_Cheeks: Brought to you by your friends at Starbucks™ and iSheeple™

No, just by somebody who is actually paying attention.

By the way your shoulders should probably serve some other purpose than preventing your head from moving further up your rear. You should look in to that.

Wow, I can't believe anyone would think Americans aren't obedient enough.

If anything, we're far, FAR too obedient.

People trust their government, churches, and popular opinion - three institutions that shouldn't be trusted with choosing so much as where to go for lunch, much less controlling people's lives.

DistendedPendulusFrenulum: I think Brooks is decrying an engineered rebellion against traditonal civil institutions. China tried something very similar with the Great Cultural Revolution.

.

Engineered by who? [Insert predictable response of some troll casing accusations on a political party he doesn't like]

The president (current and past) ultimately rules this nation with moral authority. We see him as the leader we've chosen. Even if some of us didn't choose him, most of that lot still respect the office by choice. This means He has full command of the military and the militia. Under the right circumstance, all those guns Obama helped sell would gladly do his bidding.
That authority trickles down throughout the entire government.

The American people do alot more "questioning" than they've ever done "resisting". Which is pretty amazing when the world thinks of us as being thuggish, unruly, ignorant, and armed to the teeth.
Other nations with far more conformist populaces have created some amazingly grizzly social disasters.

What happened in China (Russia, Serbia, Cambodia, etc...) was certainly engineered by people with a defined agenda.
What's happening in the US is more about the media fumbling on its way to sell copy, and partisans being partisans.

MyEnamine: Most Americans are very authoritarian. They followed Bush into war, love football coaches, and worship white Jesus. Hierarchy is what they know and understand. Which is why having Obama as their president is such a problem. Obama's position violates their flawed social hierarchy.

Spot frikking on. I've been watching my county for over 50 years here and it's like watching a retarded baby develop.

I was all excited by the headline and then I read the article. Talk killing it. Like glory-holing at the gas station, only to see the attendant walk back in wiping his mouth.

David Brooks is a silly man who writes for a silly paper.

Anyone who sees him should let him know.

Fart Roll: Our government cannot balance the budget.
Our government has a secret torture policy, and applies this around the world.
Our government free's rapists and molesters and murders....
Our government honors illegals, offering them education and healthcare while our own people suffer and become more indebted (over a BILLION)
Our government would spend billions on a heathcare system while states are closing schools an libraries. Obama should be impeached for pushing this farking shiat.
Our government actually allowed the human genome to be patented!!!! WTF?!
Our government feels up old ladies and children in the airports.
Our government sells off our lands.

And yet, you're dumb enough to elect most of the people responsible for this back to their offices. Dumber yet, if you try to change it, you just elect people from the other party responsible for this. And dumbest of all, those who see that the parties responsible for it are elected time and again drop out instead of making an actual change in their voting habits, allowing the government they allowed to remain by not voting to keep doing what they're doing; a passive endorsement of it.

/PICK. ANOTHER. NAME.

A healthy distrust of authority has long been ingrained into the American cultural zeitgeist. Both conservatives and liberals have run afoul of it, often at the same time, and usually with a decent understanding of why the other side runs afoul of it but a big blind spot as to why they themselves do.

IlGreven: Fart Roll: Our government cannot balance the budget.
Our government has a secret torture policy, and applies this around the world.
Our government free's rapists and molesters and murders....
Our government honors illegals, offering them education and healthcare while our own people suffer and become more indebted (over a BILLION)
Our government would spend billions on a heathcare system while states are closing schools an libraries. Obama should be impeached for pushing this farking shiat.
Our government actually allowed the human genome to be patented!!!! WTF?!
Our government feels up old ladies and children in the airports.
Our government sells off our lands.

And yet, you're dumb enough to elect most of the people responsible for this back to their offices. Dumber yet, if you try to change it, you just elect people from the other party responsible for this. And dumbest of all, those who see that the parties responsible for it are elected time and again drop out instead of making an actual change in their voting habits, allowing the government they allowed to remain by not voting to keep doing what they're doing; a passive endorsement of it.

/PICK. ANOTHER. NAME.


The elections are completely controlled by multiple means.

The dire financial state of our country proves the ineffectiveness of our system of government.

So go ahead, vote, Vote for the party that CAN and WILL balance the budget.

/nick Pick Another Name

Fart Roll: The dire financial state of our country proves the ineffectiveness of our system of government.


No, it proves you can't lower taxes and get involved in 2 wars without paying for them

It's a failure of the 25% of society who voted for George W Bush, twice.

intelligent comment below: Fart Roll: The dire financial state of our country proves the ineffectiveness of our system of government.


No, it proves you can't lower taxes and get involved in 2 wars without paying for them

It's a failure of the 25% of society who voted for George W Bush, twice.


Every aspect of this is completely wrong...

1) Wars are VERY profitable. The profits go to the rich, while the 1% pay for them.
2) The debt started long before Bush (see #1)
3) Voting has little to do with who becomes president.

Fart Roll: 1) Wars are VERY profitable. The profits go to the rich, while the 1% pay for them.
2) The debt started long before Bush (see #1)
3) Voting has little to do with who becomes president.


what the fark

1) the topic here is government, not military contractors
2) see chart


3) on great a "republic" not "democracy" idiot