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(US News)   PROTIP: When you want to manipulate the media, you should not leak a PowerPoint presentation to the media saying you are trying to manipulate the media   (usnews.com) divider line 69
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2012-06-27 06:00:54 PM
Did Karl Rove start working for Obama? What about Roger Ailes? Oh, wait. He makes the news, not reports it.
 
2012-06-27 06:08:21 PM
What exactly is being done that is wrong or illegal? I mean hey, if we want to remove any and all PR from TV and such -- I'm game!

FTFA: "A presentation by McLeanClark, discovered on Prezi by Whispers, implies that former Obama adviser Joe McLean's PR firm sees the American media as easy to manipulate."

The American media IS easy to manipulate. It's also easy to buy-off too.
 
2012-06-27 06:50:13 PM
And let's say that when you're writing a long article you don't get hung up repeating a catch phrase...
 
2012-06-27 06:50:21 PM

HellRaisingHoosier: What exactly is being done that is wrong or illegal? I mean hey, if we want to remove any and all PR from TV and such -- I'm game!

FTFA: "A presentation by McLeanClark, discovered on Prezi by Whispers, implies that former Obama adviser Joe McLean's PR firm sees the American media as easy to manipulate."

The American media IS easy to manipulate. It's also easy to buy-off too.


This and that
 
2012-06-27 06:50:38 PM
if the MSM's going to get all butthurt when they're treated like whores they should probably be asking for more money when they sell themselves.
 
2012-06-27 06:50:59 PM
PROTIP: Public Relations = manipulating the media in favor of your client
 
2012-06-27 06:51:25 PM
Greece is the word,
It's the word
It's the word
That you heard.

// There you go, Americans are now distracted
/// Dollars or Yuan only please.
 
2012-06-27 06:52:47 PM
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This wouldn't happen if media outlets relayed stories from only people with journalistic ethics. Back in the day, there was news in the news section, op-ed in the op-ed section and a clear distinction was made. Now anyone with a twitter account considers him or herself worthy of the front page.
 
2012-06-27 06:53:43 PM
No big deal.
But but but Bush.

The gang's all here!
 
2012-06-27 06:53:50 PM
ftfa "the media appears to be a place where op-eds written with help from the firm-though not necessarily with their byline-will simply be accepted and printed."

Really US News? You're going to act like this is some great secret??
 
2012-06-27 06:53:50 PM

trippdogg: PROTIP: Public Relations = manipulating the media in favor of your client


This. You don't pay a company hundreds of thousands of dollars just to to have a bunch of interns write your damned press releases.
 
2012-06-27 06:53:53 PM
those movies that show how all the special effects were done kind of ruins it for me. suspension of belief is vital.
 
2012-06-27 06:55:15 PM

Voiceofreason01: if the MSM's going to get all butthurt when they're treated like whores they should probably be asking for more money when they sell themselves.


Then they can be escorts.
 
2012-06-27 06:55:55 PM
"In McLeanClark's world, the media appears to be a place where op-eds written with help from [a PR company] -though not necessarily with their byline-will simply be accepted and printed."


So this McLeanClark fellow hails from planet Earth, huh.
 
2012-06-27 06:56:40 PM
FTFA: "A presentation by McLeanClark, discovered on Prezi by Whispers, implies that former Obama adviser Joe McLean's PR firm sees the American media as easy to manipulate. In McLeanClark's world, the media appears to be a place where op-eds written with help from the firm-though not necessarily with their byline-will simply be accepted and printed."

And they're absolutely right.

It's amusing, how American media still think they're news organizations. They morphed into PR flacks long ago. The honest ones admit it. The dishonest ones write faux-outrage bullshiat like the linked story.
 
2012-06-27 06:57:01 PM
I thought Drew wrote a book about this.
 
2012-06-27 06:57:24 PM

HellRaisingHoosier: What exactly is being done that is wrong or illegal?


Nothing. But if you're trying to manipulate an idiot, you need to try to refrain from calling them idiots while doing it.

FTFA: "A presentation by McLeanClark, discovered on Prezi by Whispers, implies that former Obama adviser Joe McLean's PR firm sees the American media as easy to manipulate."

The American media IS easy to manipulate. It's also easy to buy-off too.


If anything, it should just be implied. My first slide would start with, "The American media is a bunch of gullible morans, and their viewers are even dumber."
 
2012-06-27 07:00:25 PM
From the headline, I could tell this was about Obama and not a Republican because subby omitted the words "derp", "dickwad", "jerk", "a$$" and "teabagger".

/Lean to the left, lean to the left, stand up, sit-down, Fark, Fark, Fark.
 
2012-06-27 07:01:05 PM
What's the big deal. This is PR. The media is not being manipulated. The media knows PR. The media appreciates someone doing their legwork for them. It's the end user who is cheated.
 
2012-06-27 07:01:07 PM
but is it still ok to read commands from a political party on what talking points you should be using on the air to your viewers while pretending to be unbiased
 
2012-06-27 07:01:07 PM

Vlad_the_Inaner: "In McLeanClark's world, the media appears to be a place where op-eds written with help from [a PR company] -though not necessarily with their byline-will simply be accepted and printed."


So this McLeanClark fellow hails from planet Earth, huh.


No kidding. I would expect that media outlets are quite willing to accept relatively well-written, topical pieces to fill up space at low cost, especially when they come from people with friends and connections... I've seen it happen. I've also seen the standard responses from newspaper editors about the successful publishing rate for unsolicited op-ed pieces. We're talking about businesses here, afterall...
 
2012-06-27 07:03:28 PM
Yeah but there's the problem. He's telling the truth. PR is not in the business of telling the truth. He clearly doesn't understand the business he's in.
 
2012-06-27 07:03:52 PM
Advertising works? The HELL you say!
 
2012-06-27 07:04:20 PM
Are people really surprised this is how the media works now?
 
2012-06-27 07:04:52 PM

s2s2s2: No big deal.
But but but Bush.

The gang's all here!


This is bad news...for Obama.
 
2012-06-27 07:06:22 PM

RibbyK: From the headline, I could tell this was about Obama and not a Republican because subby omitted the words "derp", "dickwad", "jerk", "a$$" and "teabagger".

/Lean to the left, lean to the left, stand up, sit-down, Fark, Fark, Fark.


Except it isn't about Obama so you clearly didn't read the article. You outed yourself as an idiot.
 
2012-06-27 07:06:28 PM
You think the media don't know how this works. They're not being "manipulated", they are in on it. The kind of person who's shocked by this revelation, probably believes that professional wrestling is real.
 
2012-06-27 07:08:16 PM
Funny, this coming from a hack who was forced to resign from WaPo over charges of plagiarism and false reporting.

Washington Post journalist resigns after 'significant ethical lapse' reported in her work
 
2012-06-27 07:10:09 PM
So you're not buying this propaganda, eh? Can't afford it? Here's a loan.

i944.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-27 07:10:27 PM

Dear Jerk: What's the big deal. This is PR. The media is not being manipulated. The media knows PR. The media appreciates someone doing their legwork for them. It's the end user who is cheated.


Exactly. Journalism died a while ago. The Internet has made it too easy to fill a paper/broadcast without doing any heavy lifting.
 
2012-06-27 07:11:00 PM

Sabyen91: You outed yourself as an idiot


Ad hominem attacks, the first and last strategy of the Left.
Pardon me, but your tilt is showing.
 
2012-06-27 07:11:58 PM
Wait, do you mean the media are entirely derelict, and what we get is essentially disinfotainment? When did this begin?


.
 
2012-06-27 07:12:07 PM
But is Brawndo still what plants crave?
 
2012-06-27 07:12:42 PM

RibbyK: Sabyen91: You outed yourself as an idiot

Ad hominem attacks, the first and last strategy of the Left.
Pardon me, but your tilt is showing.


You still don't have a point. You were still wrong and were whining for absolutely no reason. Congrats.
 
2012-06-27 07:13:38 PM

RibbyK: Sabyen91: You outed yourself as an idiot

Ad hominem attacks, the first and last strategy of the Left.
Pardon me, but your tilt is showing.


The fact that you got pwned notwithstanding


.
 
2012-06-27 07:14:34 PM
What happened, US News & World Report? You used to be able to report a story like this without feeling the compulsion to insert the phrase "former Obama advisor" into the headline.

/and also the dek and every other graf
 
2012-06-27 07:15:03 PM
It's not news, it's... Really, just not news.
 
2012-06-27 07:17:47 PM
Well, they are now blaming pot instead of bath salts from the tests from the Zombie killer. Expect corporate media to use this widely.
 
2012-06-27 07:21:03 PM
America's media is way to sophisticated to fall for anything like that.

pastorsb.com


/hot
 
2012-06-27 07:22:37 PM

Sabyen91: s2s2s2: No big deal.
But but but Bush.

The gang's all here!

This is bad news...for Obama.


Ahhhh. Good times.
 
2012-06-27 07:22:58 PM
 
2012-06-27 07:34:35 PM

Bad_Seed: You think the media don't know how this works. They're not being "manipulated", they are in on it. The kind of person who's shocked by this revelation, probably believes that professional wrestling is real.


What you talkin' about, B_S?? If wrestling isn't real why is it in the Sports tab? Q.E.D!
 
2012-06-27 07:38:19 PM

RibbyK: Sabyen91: You outed yourself as an idiot

Ad hominem attacks, the first and last strategy of the Left.
Pardon me, but your tilt is showing.


He should have just said that you failed at reading comprehension.

The article isn't about Obama. It isn't even about Obama's current (or former) campaigns.


The article is about a guy who used to work for Obama, who now has his own PR firm. That PR firm has done article and op-ed placement for various clients (such as Boeing), and is trying to sell that expertise to Greece.


The only reason "former Obama advisor" is on there is to make the story more sensationalist. If his biggest name client had instead been Lindsay Lohan, it would say that.
 
2012-06-27 07:42:23 PM

RibbyK: Sabyen91: You outed yourself as an idiot

Ad hominem attacks, the first and last strategy of the Left.
Pardon me, but your tilt is showing.


I don't think you're allowed to play the ad hominem card here. His argument was not 'you're an idiot'. That was merely an observation following his argument: the article was not about Obama. The fact he called you an idiot does not change the fact that your argument was false.
 
2012-06-27 07:44:39 PM
Damnit, you guys! The new guy is going to have to get an(other) alt soon at this rate.
 
2012-06-27 07:46:03 PM

sjcousins: RibbyK: Sabyen91: You outed yourself as an idiot

Ad hominem attacks, the first and last strategy of the Left.
Pardon me, but your tilt is showing.

I don't think you're allowed to play the ad hominem card here. His argument was not 'you're an idiot'. That was merely an observation following his argument: the article was not about Obama. The fact he called you an idiot does not change the fact that your argument was false.


No kidding. What an idiot.
 
2012-06-27 07:47:46 PM

Riothamus: sjcousins: RibbyK: Sabyen91: You outed yourself as an idiot

Ad hominem attacks, the first and last strategy of the Left.
Pardon me, but your tilt is showing.

I don't think you're allowed to play the ad hominem card here. His argument was not 'you're an idiot'. That was merely an observation following his argument: the article was not about Obama. The fact he called you an idiot does not change the fact that your argument was false.

No kidding. What an idiot.


Hey guys. I heard there's an idiot in here and I wanted to check it out. Has he said something with "ad hominem" in it yet?
 
2012-06-27 07:48:17 PM
This is news how??? The media is too lazy to create their own stories or even fact check the ones handed to them, and now they want to blame the people that handed them the stories. All political parties do this, the media considers it free air time. There is nothing new about this.
 
2012-06-27 07:50:51 PM
www.details.com
 
2012-06-27 08:07:44 PM

HellRaisingHoosier: What exactly is being done that is wrong or illegal? I mean hey, if we want to remove any and all PR from TV and such -- I'm game!

FTFA: "A presentation by McLeanClark, discovered on Prezi by Whispers, implies that former Obama adviser Joe McLean's PR firm sees the American media as easy to manipulate."

The American media IS easy to manipulate. It's also easy to buy-off too.


This article suggests the media is easily influenced.

A lot of simple people are easily influenced by the media.

Most of the mainstream media is liberal.

Most of the people swayed by the media are liberal, since only one of the 5-7 (depending on how you define a media outlet) major outlets isn't overtly left-leaning.

Continue that line of reasoning.

People like to say "reality skews liberal," well, Greece is reality, and also skews liberal, and is imploding.
 
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