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(The Daily Beast)   So who's going to get screwed if Obamacare is struck down? Ironically, it's Southerners (who vote GOP), insurance companies (who support the GOP) and young people (who don't vote)   (thedailybeast.com) divider line 20
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2012-06-27 05:06:30 PM  
2 votes:
i560.photobucket.com
2012-06-27 04:07:48 PM  
2 votes:

tallguywithglasseson: xanadian: That would allow the justices to be mind-readers, which they are not.

Or they would just have to look at all of the information available, and make a judgment.

You know, like a judge.


What time do the orders from Koch and Norquist come in? How are the underlings supposed to make decisions without input from management?
2012-06-27 03:31:26 PM  
2 votes:

MeinRS6: AdolfOliverPanties: I am still amazed we are even discussing this. Healthcare shouldn't even be an issue. Medicine should not be a for-profit industry. we are talking about human lives and the only thing that seems to matter to some people is the farking bottom line.

Single payer. Now.

And there you have it. A perfect example of a person that doesn't know anything about the failures of communism around the globe. He's blocked out all factual information, all history, all facts regarding human nature, and just relies on his "But what about the children!?!" type feelings. This is one of the reasons why it is dangerous to the country for idiot libs to be in power.


I was going to reply to this point by point, refuting all of your hypotheses and illuminating for all to see your deep level of misunderstanding not only my post, but things in general, but then I remembered something.

There's no need.

Everyone on this board already knows what an ignorant misguided dickhole you are.
2012-06-27 03:22:59 PM  
2 votes:

MeinRS6: AdolfOliverPanties: I am still amazed we are even discussing this. Healthcare shouldn't even be an issue. Medicine should not be a for-profit industry. we are talking about human lives and the only thing that seems to matter to some people is the farking bottom line.

Single payer. Now.

And there you have it. A perfect example of a person that doesn't know anything about the failures of communism around the globe. He's blocked out all factual information, all history, all facts regarding human nature, and just relies on his "But what about the children!?!" type feelings. This is one of the reasons why it is dangerous to the country for idiot libs to be in power.


Wow, I have really not been paying attention! I never realized that communism had taken control of Canada, the entirety of Europe and most of Asia! And the entire time, I thought Reagan won the war against the commies!
2012-06-28 02:34:36 AM  
1 votes:

MeinRS6: LavenderWolf: Single payer health care is not even related to communism. You are a moron.

I wasn't talking about single payer or even Obamacare. I was addressing the idea of making the entire medical field not for profit. Communists always railed against profits. Under real communism, someone coming up with an idea, protecting it, then selling it for more than it cost them to make was all frowned upon. The result was a country like the former Soviet Union being backwards and lagging far behind in many areas to countries like the US. So that's what I was talking about.

If you would like to read more on the soul crushing nature of communism and depriving people of incentive, there are a number of books on the topic.


Yes, because "single-payer" and not-for-profit is EXACTLY the same thing as Stalinism. Yes yes, I see it all. You make it so clear now.
2012-06-28 02:14:02 AM  
1 votes:

Bob Dolemite: who is going to get screwed if it stays in effect? everyone.


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so, not sure where you're going there with that submitter

So I guess you're OK with 40 million Americans being uninsured. It doesn't affect you in any way. Emergency room visits=cheap.
2012-06-27 07:41:01 PM  
1 votes:
i.imgur.com
2012-06-27 05:36:54 PM  
1 votes:

penetrating_virga: Lando Lincoln: GoSlash27: I shall butter my popcorn with the delicious tears of the farketariat when tomorrow's majority opinion is handed down.

If they say the whole law is unconstitutional, my kids are going to be thrown off of my insurance, unless Congress comes up with a new plan.

Are you going to be celebrating that?

Nope, we won't be celebrating your loss.

We WILL however be celebrating the ruling that government cannot force citizens to buy X.


YAY 40 million uninsured people. FARK EM I GOT MINE.
2012-06-27 05:31:07 PM  
1 votes:

jigger: Polly Ester: The author of that article didn't actually read the legislation, his analysis was based solely on Obama stump speeches.

Hell, I'd like to know who the hell has actually read the whole thing and understands it fully. The Supreme Court justices certainly didn't. No single legislator did. Probably the only people who did were lawyers and lobbyists for insurance and pharmaceutical companies.


I did. It really wasn't that difficult to go through. It just took a few hours of stopping myself from getting distracted by bright lights and TV shows.
2012-06-27 05:10:21 PM  
1 votes:
I'll give a fark about southerners when southerners give a fark about southerners. This is the same region that sent off bucketloads, the vast majority in fact, of soldiers who were poor, have nothings, fighting to keep a system that entirely profited the rich southern gentry and did squat all for them. These people have spent years of stepping on their own dicks to make a point since the civil war. Fark them!
2012-06-27 05:04:45 PM  
1 votes:
So basically, the groups that have it coming, for one reason or another:
Southerners for supporting a political party that screws them.
Insurance companies for supporting a political party that screws them.
Young people for not bothering to do their part in stopping a political party from screwing them.
2012-06-27 04:30:03 PM  
1 votes:

AdolfOliverPanties: MeinRS6: AdolfOliverPanties: I am still amazed we are even discussing this. Healthcare shouldn't even be an issue. Medicine should not be a for-profit industry. we are talking about human lives and the only thing that seems to matter to some people is the farking bottom line.

Single payer. Now.

And there you have it. A perfect example of a person that doesn't know anything about the failures of communism around the globe. He's blocked out all factual information, all history, all facts regarding human nature, and just relies on his "But what about the children!?!" type feelings. This is one of the reasons why it is dangerous to the country for idiot libs to be in power.

I was going to reply to this point by point, refuting all of your hypotheses and illuminating for all to see your deep level of misunderstanding not only my post, but things in general, but then I remembered something.

There's no need.

Everyone on this board already knows what an ignorant misguided dickhole you are.


Such nasty name-calling. tsk tsk Those libby emotions really do rule your life. You should try facts and logic for a change.

The reason that you cannot respond in a meaningful way is because you know I'm right.

When something becomes not for profit, does it then become more or less innovative? There are many other questions I could ask along these lines, but that's as good as any to start.

Ask yourself - If you had a serious medical problem and you would benefit from the newest treatments with the best trained doctors, would you seek treatment in a not for profit communist country? You can go anywhere you want - do you pick a current or even former communist state?
2012-06-27 04:06:55 PM  
1 votes:

AdolfOliverPanties: MeinRS6: AdolfOliverPanties: I am still amazed we are even discussing this. Healthcare shouldn't even be an issue. Medicine should not be a for-profit industry. we are talking about human lives and the only thing that seems to matter to some people is the farking bottom line.

Single payer. Now.

And there you have it. A perfect example of a person that doesn't know anything about the failures of communism around the globe. He's blocked out all factual information, all history, all facts regarding human nature, and just relies on his "But what about the children!?!" type feelings. This is one of the reasons why it is dangerous to the country for idiot libs to be in power.

I was going to reply to this point by point, refuting all of your hypotheses and illuminating for all to see your deep level of misunderstanding not only my post, but things in general, but then I remembered something.

There's no need.

Everyone on this board already knows what an ignorant misguided dickhole you are.


That's unfair.

He's an emotionally stunted alt who needs to be a fascist on the interwebs because his dad always thought he was kind of a pussy.
2012-06-27 03:18:49 PM  
1 votes:

AdolfOliverPanties: I am still amazed we are even discussing this. Healthcare shouldn't even be an issue. Medicine should not be a for-profit industry. we are talking about human lives and the only thing that seems to matter to some people is the farking bottom line.

Single payer. Now.


And there you have it. A perfect example of a person that doesn't know anything about the failures of communism around the globe. He's blocked out all factual information, all history, all facts regarding human nature, and just relies on his "But what about the children!?!" type feelings. This is one of the reasons why it is dangerous to the country for idiot libs to be in power.
2012-06-27 03:14:50 PM  
1 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: It would be kind of amusing if the mandate was struck down and the rest stood.


Funny until insurance companies are banned from operating in all 50 states for failing to meet each state's reserve/profit requirements. Then nobody would have insurance! So fun! So cool! Can't wait!

Insurance companies for the most part stayed out of the fight. They were in a lose/lose situation and went with the "everybody must purchase your product by law" side and in hopes of making a buck. That would be the Democrat side.
2012-06-27 02:55:10 PM  
1 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: It would be kind of amusing if the mandate was struck down and the rest stood.


insurance companies would be sooooo farked.

people don't understand that without a single-payer system, a mandate is imperative to offset the additional cost insurance companies will incur by being required to cover preexisting conditions.
2012-06-27 02:53:53 PM  
1 votes:
People will pre-existing conditions will go back to being screwed over.
Insurance companies will once again be able to drop people for costing them too much money.

But hey, Obama will be sad, so it will all be worth it.
2012-06-27 02:52:33 PM  
1 votes:
got it. we should care more about insurance companies than about the constitutionality of the law

ftfm
2012-06-27 02:51:50 PM  
1 votes:
got it. we should care more about insurance companies than we should the constitutionality of the law.
2012-06-27 02:41:25 PM  
1 votes:
SOCIALIZM!!111ELEVENTY
 
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