"The capital's mature adolescent shuns the major markers of responsible adulthood - most notably in spending habits"

So you're saying that children got us into the housing bubble?

Well subby, it's still better than being, single, with kids, broke and unable to buy a house.

(I don't hate kids or people who have them, but I do think that if we're ever going to have a stable population, we're going to have to stop freaking out about those among us who choose not to have families.)

(Also, we'll need to have an economy that doesn't depend on constant population growth, but that's another discussion.)

One of the most mature decisions I've ever made was passing on marriage and babies when it was the "thing to do" among my friends and family. Still surprises me the hostility and negativity I get from some friends and family for not "doing what I'm suppose too".

//yeah, got some very conservative folks among my family and friends.

Getting married is for old, bald, fat dudes who can't get laid. Having babies is for old losers who have no life and don't want one.

got to the "wrong side of my 20s" and closed it.

Just call it quits now, then. FFS

Every generation, there will be whiners complaining about the next generation not being as good as the last one.

I don't have kids. I'm legally married, although have yet to have a conventional ceremony. Don't own a house, because renting is convenient. And I'm happy. I want kids, but understand that I need to be just a tad more financially secure. I think these are all adult decisions I've made. And if I never have kids that does not make me any less of a grown up. It's the penis jokes that show my true immaturity.

"You're not an adult until you have children"

Goddamn breeders.

"I can't believe the generation raised by the most spoiled rotten brats in the universe (who've lived through the biggest economic booms in history and passed the costs into the future) aren't volunteering for the same responsibilities we shirked as much as possible."

James!: The My Little Pony Killer: James!: Also, kids, if you think buying a house and dropping a litter of kids is going to automatically make you a grown-up you are in for a world of hurt. You're still going to be the same irresponsible fark-up you're always been but now you'll have a kid and a mortgage.

Become an adult and THEN get the house and the kids if you want them.

This. I know people whose children are going on ten years old, and the "parents" still act like teenagers themselves.

shiat, my mother tried to grow pot in a hanging plant in front of a window. That woman should not have been responsible for children.

You lived in the cool house :(

Tat'dGreaser: Ohhhh I love these "let's justify why I'm single with no kids and in my 30's" threads!

I'll go first, I'm ugly and most likely retarded.

Now you

Well, I don't think I'm hideous(yet), but I know for certain that I'm retarded. So very retarded.

Hoo-ray! A new generation can't afford to get married, have children, or save for big expenses! Let's tag them with a derogatory moniker and blame their circumstances on some sort of mental deficiency!

Why does she use the word "generation" and then go on to describe a subculture. I can assure you that the majority of people aged 25-45 are not living in major cities, earning high wages at corporate jobs, and frittering their pay away on fine dining and high-end nightclubs.

This article is stupid, and it stole 5 minutes from me; minutes that I could have spent more productively by trolling..

Buffet: Getting married is for old, bald, fat dudes who can't get laid. Having babies is for old losers who have no life and don't want one.

Now you tell me!!!

well this thread is going strong is one direction...so I will counter.

My wife and I just had our second child on the June 21st. I think married with children life kicks ass.


That is cool you don't want kids. That is cool you want to be rich and travel. That does not make me jealous. I don't expect you to be jealous I got peed on last night. Live how you want to live.

Tat'dGreaser: Ohhhh I love these "let's justify why I'm single with no kids and in my 30's" threads!

I'll go first, I'm ugly and most likely retarded.

Now you

As long as we're making unfounded generalizations, have you told your spouse and children that you resent them and want to abandon them for the life you'd rather live?

blatz514: Having kids will interrupt my tavern visiting. Therefore, I will not be having any happy hour killers.

Where are you living? Out here, having kids doesn't stop anyone from going to the pub/bar/club. Just let them fend for themselves out in the parking lot or back at home, like the rest of the breeders do.

I don't want kids so I really can't justify getting married.

sweetmelissa31: I mean seriously my cat has a shoulder. Why would I even consider having a human baby?

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That is a pretty cat.

I'm not going to AW with a pic of my 21 month old daughter, but as cute as that cat is, multiply it by infinity and divide the product by zero and that's my kid. And yours too, when you have one.

You'll see.

Molavian: LeroyBourne: Is LCD making a come-back over there?

No, LED and plasma are dominating the market.

ugh, lsd....having a weird day. Need lsd maybe.

busy chillin': Live how you want to live.

But I want to deried everyone else's lifestyle choices as "stunted" or "old-fashioned" or "unsustainable" or "irresponsible"! Come on, can I?

/married
//kids in a few years
///happy
////ymmv

busy chillin': My wife and I just had our second child on the June 21st. I think married with children life kicks ass.

Congrats. I want to have another one but my wife won't hold still.

GAT_00: You know, I was watching Newsroom last night - by the way, awesome, no wonder the media hated it - and that was the one part where he lost me in his rant, angry at my generation. And you know what? If you don't like the younger generation, look in the mirror. People don't make and define themselves. We are defined first and above all by our parents, though for some people its by being as unlike them as possible. But at the core, a generation is a reflection on how they were raised. So what you're saying is you hate yourself, or you hate your kids. That's who made my generation who we are. So shut the fark up about how my generation is and ask, why are we the way we are? And when you talk finance, it's because you don't give us the chance to get ourselves ahead, but you never even considered why that is. You and your parents blew everything up. Blaming us for the world we were given is idiotic and completely as self serving as I already know you are.

Blame the right people for a change.

Indeed. Every time I talk with someone who rants about kids these days being so entitled because of participation trophies and such, I point out that it wasn't the kids who decided to hand out these trophies.

It normally doesn't end well.

YixilTesiphon: deried

And now somebody probably wants to deride my spelling.

Mid 40's here. Wife of 20 years, teenage son and house. I pay my bills and save some. I bought a house that I could afford and that I'll be able to pay off well before I retire.

But I still play in a band. I still race slot cars. I still build classic monster movie diorama models. And I still occasionally drink too much and fall down or get sick (rarer and rarer these days, hey I'm learning).

My point is you can be a responsible adult and still have fun. You don't have to hurt yourself or someone else to do it.

Wow, it like they've stumbled upon what happens in first world countries during/after a recession with access to birth control.

I'm not exactly broke, have a pension coming to me, have and continue to feed a 401k, but I will never be able to afford a home where I live. It kind of sucks, I don't want to rent anymore.

Oh, and I'm repellent to women, so a family is out and I have to do it alone. Sometimes circumstances dictate who you are.

hey yall i'm peter pan!!

Tat'dGreaser: Ohhhh I love these "let's justify why I'm single with no kids and in my 30's" threads!

I'll go first, I'm ugly and most likely retarded.

Now you

The only single guys left are guys like you.


/I keed.
//How *you* doin'?

URAPNIS: I don't want kids so I really can't justify getting married.

I justified getting married, at 37, because I lost my job and health insurance. My husband and I married for financial reasons. I mean, we love each other, but we didn't need the whole marriage thing. And I hate kids. So, there's that.

Tat'dGreaser: John Napkintosh: As long as we're making unfounded generalizations, have you told your spouse and children that you resent them and want to abandon them for the life you'd rather live?

What part of "not married and don't have kids" didn't you get?

Sorry, I took your post as self-righteousness rather than self-deprecation.

Because I'm single, don't have kids, and don't own a home, I'm not an adult? Would someone kindly explain that to me? I'm 28. I have a good job. I save money. I take care of myself. And I could buy a home if it made financial sense for me (it doesn't.) Sounds to me like I'm being plenty mature.

People, please stop mistaking different life choices for lack of maturity. The most mature thing someone can do is determine the best direction for their their life and to go in that direction. And doing some of those things, if it's not what you truly want, can actually be harmful to people (especially kids if you don't want them). Being an adult is more about accepting responsibility for your choices and doing your best to make the right ones rather than hitting some material milestones.