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(Washington Post)   Justice Scalia must resign... before tomorrow. And we should totally get a mulligan on that Obamacare case   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 271
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2012-06-27 12:46:59 PM
chicagoist.com
 
2012-06-27 12:50:04 PM
USSC justices are not supposed to be political. I believe that is defined by the Constitution. Scalia wrote a political rant that had nothing to do with the actual case in an opinion. Arguably, according to the Constitution, he should be removed as a justice.
 
2012-06-27 12:50:18 PM

Lucky LaRue: [chicagoist.com image 400x277]


"I just made a poopy!"
 
2012-06-27 12:50:49 PM
Scalia should never have been appointed to begin with. He's more partisan than Rehnquist, and that's saying something.
 
2012-06-27 12:51:09 PM
He's become an embarrassment to the SCOTUS and the country. But the real question is what would Thomas and Alito do if he did resign? It'd be like cutting the head off a chicken.
 
2012-06-27 12:52:10 PM
I don't think this case is going to turn on Scalia's vote. But yes, he should be removed. He wrote a book that says he will interpret previous SCOTUS decisions based on the political merit of the case, rather than the legal merit.
 
2012-06-27 12:52:26 PM

John Paul Jones: He's become an embarrassment to the SCOTUS and the country. But the real question is what would Thomas and Alito do if he did resign? It'd be like cutting the head off a chicken.


Thomas would also resign.
 
2012-06-27 12:52:33 PM
justpiper.com

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2012-06-27 12:54:03 PM

cameroncrazy1984: I don't think this case is going to turn on Scalia's vote. But yes, he should be removed. He wrote a book that says he will interpret previous SCOTUS decisions based on the political merit of the case, rather than the legal merit.


Yeah, but he's there to protect against the actions of, you know, activist judges.
 
2012-06-27 12:55:58 PM
That's never, ever going to happen. He won't leave the bunch until he's 102 and dying, and then only if a Republican is in office to appoint his replacement.
 
2012-06-27 12:56:48 PM
Justices aren't considered unbiased and non-political if you agree with their decisions and political leanings.
 
2012-06-27 12:59:12 PM

slayer199: Justices aren't considered unbiased and non-political if you agree with their decisions and political leanings.


It's really sad you're so wrapped up in your politics you can't see a difference between a blatant political rant masquerading as a judicial opinion and an interpretation of the Constitution.

And by sad, I mean pathetic.
 
2012-06-27 01:01:26 PM

GAT_00: USSC justices are not supposed to be political. I believe that is defined by the Constitution. Scalia wrote a political rant that had nothing to do with the actual case in an opinion. Arguably, according to the Constitution, he should be removed as a justice.


Scalia has always walked a really fine line in keeping his politics separate from his Judicial duties-at least publicly. That's clearly changed now; the "strict constructionist" looks like he's lost his marbles completely.

Regardless of whether you agree with his politics or any of his decisions, Scalia is pretty smart. Over the last couple of years (really, toward the end of the Bush administration), he has started to show signs of decline in both self control and his formerly good skill of rationalizing his decisions. That's a sign, to me at least, that he either just doesn't give a fark anymore or his mental acuity is failing. Either is a good reason for him to resign, but his ego will never allow for it without some significant oddball behavior (a la my poopy jokes).
 
2012-06-27 01:01:37 PM
"Jack Bauer saved Los Angeles. ... He saved hundreds of thousands of lives,"

"Are you going to convict Jack Bauer?" "Say that criminal law is against him? 'You have the right to a jury trial?' Is any jury going to convict Jack Bauer? I don't think so."


This is an actual quote by Antonin Scalia, a United States Supreme Court Justice, when asked about the torture of terrorism suspects.
 
2012-06-27 01:03:36 PM

GAT_00: USSC justices are not supposed to be political. I believe that is defined by the Constitution.


Do you have an actual citation or are you just believing in make believe stuff?
 
2012-06-27 01:03:52 PM
Justices can be impeached, and one was for the same reason in 1811
Link

It should be noted the impeachment wasn't successful.
 
2012-06-27 01:06:16 PM

James!: John Paul Jones: He's become an embarrassment to the SCOTUS and the country. But the real question is what would Thomas and Alito do if he did resign? It'd be like cutting the head off a chicken.

Thomas would also resign.


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2012-06-27 01:06:52 PM

vernonFL: "Jack Bauer saved Los Angeles. ... He saved hundreds of thousands of lives,"

"Are you going to convict Jack Bauer?" "Say that criminal law is against him? 'You have the right to a jury trial?' Is any jury going to convict Jack Bauer? I don't think so."


This is an actual quote by Antonin Scalia, a United States Supreme Court Justice, when asked about the torture of terrorism suspects.


That's beyond farked up.
 
2012-06-27 01:07:24 PM
Some hack liberal blogger thinks Scalia should resign. Well, that's good enough for me. Obama is hereby President for life and every woman gets an abortion, whether she wants it or not.
 
2012-06-27 01:07:38 PM

Lurking Fear: Justices can be impeached, and one was for the same reason in 1811


No. It is not the same reason.
There is no evidence that Scalia let his "partisan leanings" affect his court decisions. No more so than Ginsburg or anyone else on the bench.
 
2012-06-27 01:08:49 PM
No way is either Alito or Thomas is going to leave under anyone's pressure. Alito will retire some day on his own. Thomas will die on the bench. Book it, done.

I think Alito is walking a line, but no one will challenge him because deep down Alito says what Roberts is thinking.
 
2012-06-27 01:09:17 PM
He is never going to resign or be impeached, he will leave the USSC in a box. The good news is that he could stroke out tomorrow. He's fat, old, a heavy drinker and he is probably too stubborn to make the lifestyle changes that might extend his life. He is not going to make it to 80.
 
2012-06-27 01:12:58 PM
For some reason, I always thought E.J. Dionne was black.
 
2012-06-27 01:13:35 PM

Lurking Fear: Justices can be impeached, and one was for the same reason in 1811
Link

It should be noted the impeachment wasn't successful.


btw, you should check out why they wanted him impeached.
He objected to the removal of federalist judges who were supposed to have lifetime appointments.
 
2012-06-27 01:14:38 PM
 
2012-06-27 01:16:21 PM

NowhereMon: He is never going to resign or be impeached, he will leave the USSC in a box. The good news is that he could stroke out tomorrow. He's fat, old, a heavy drinker and he is probably too stubborn to make the lifestyle changes that might extend his life. He is not going to make it to 80.


If Scalia (or any of the conservatives) should happen to die while Obama is in office can you imagine the conspiracy theories the derp squad would create?
 
2012-06-27 01:16:31 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: There is no evidence that Scalia let his "partisan leanings" affect his court decisions.



And he's dense enough to believe this, folks.
 
2012-06-27 01:17:40 PM

James!: John Paul Jones: He's become an embarrassment to the SCOTUS and the country. But the real question is what would Thomas and Alito do if he did resign? It'd be like cutting the head off a chicken.

Thomas would also resign.




He would probably not write separately but would just concur in Scalia's resignation letter.
 
2012-06-27 01:19:41 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: There is no evidence that Scalia let his "partisan leanings" affect his court decisions.


I knew it. This guy can't read. That explains the stupidity.
 
2012-06-27 01:21:39 PM

BillCo: Some hack liberal blogger thinks Scalia should resign. Well, that's good enough for me. Obama is hereby President for life and every woman gets an abortion, whether she wants it or not.


You're just not very good at this are you
 
2012-06-27 01:24:20 PM

GAT_00: It's really sad you're so wrapped up in your politics you can't see a difference between a blatant political rant masquerading as a judicial opinion and an interpretation of the Constitution.

And by sad, I mean pathetic.


Did I make any comment towards any of his decisions? No. Did I say anything about my personal approval or disapproval regarding Scalia? No. My statement was as follows: "Justices aren't considered unbiased and non-political if you agree with their decisions and political leanings."

Which could mean that right-leaners won't find flaw with Scalia or that left-leaners will find flaw with Scalia. I said NOTHING about my personal feelings on the issue or anything about Scalia. It was just an observation on political human nature. Thanks for proving my point.

The fact that you took my neutral observation and twisted it into a rant speaks to YOUR political leanings, not mine. It must be comforting to view the world through your myopic lens.
 
2012-06-27 01:26:45 PM

NuttierThanEver: NowhereMon: He is never going to resign or be impeached, he will leave the USSC in a box. The good news is that he could stroke out tomorrow. He's fat, old, a heavy drinker and he is probably too stubborn to make the lifestyle changes that might extend his life. He is not going to make it to 80.

If Scalia (or any of the conservatives) should happen to die while Obama is in office can you imagine the conspiracy theories the derp squad would create?


I, for one, would welcome the derpstorm. This would be better than anything on TV.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-06-27 01:27:22 PM
The Supreme court is pretty much beyond reach. It was done that way to keep them out of politics. It would take the House to impeach and the Senate to convict a justice to remove one.
 
2012-06-27 01:27:56 PM

vernonFL: "Jack Bauer saved Los Angeles. ... He saved hundreds of thousands of lives,"

"Are you going to convict Jack Bauer?" "Say that criminal law is against him? 'You have the right to a jury trial?' Is any jury going to convict Jack Bauer? I don't think so."


This is an actual quote by Antonin Scalia, a United States Supreme Court Justice, when asked about the torture of terrorism suspects.


Well, he could have said Valerie Plame, but you liberals got all upset when examples of real CIA were used. QUIT MOVING THE GOALPOSTS!!!
 
2012-06-27 01:28:47 PM

BillCo: Some hack liberal blogger


E J Dionne is certainly liberal, but he's also:

Rhodes scholar, op-ed columnist for The Washington Post, Senior Fellow in Governance Studies at the Brookings Institution, a University Professor in the Foundations of Democracy and Culture at Georgetown Public Policy Institute, a Senior Research Fellow at Saint Anselm College, and an NPR Commentator.
 
2012-06-27 01:29:19 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: He objected to the removal of federalist judges who were supposed to have lifetime appointments.


From the wiki article:
"The heart of the allegations was that political bias had led Chase to treat defendants and their counsel in a blatantly unfair manner."

Regardless what the real reasons were, this is how they spun the impeachment.

And Scalia is seriously crossing the line lately. Consider how he conveniently announced his reversal of following precedent only last week, just in time to throw AHC under the faux news bus.
 
2012-06-27 01:30:06 PM

slayer199: GAT_00: It's really sad you're so wrapped up in your politics you can't see a difference between a blatant political rant masquerading as a judicial opinion and an interpretation of the Constitution.

And by sad, I mean pathetic.

Did I make any comment towards any of his decisions? No. Did I say anything about my personal approval or disapproval regarding Scalia? No. My statement was as follows: "Justices aren't considered unbiased and non-political if you agree with their decisions and political leanings."

Which could mean that right-leaners won't find flaw with Scalia or that left-leaners will find flaw with Scalia. I said NOTHING about my personal feelings on the issue or anything about Scalia. It was just an observation on political human nature. Thanks for proving my point.

The fact that you took my neutral observation and twisted it into a rant speaks to YOUR political leanings, not mine. It must be comforting to view the world through your myopic lens.


While what you've written is generally true, this last dissent was waaaay out there. It is unlike any other I've seen in its political nature and style and some of Scalia's supporters have floated that this was an actual political speech that was accidentally issued by a clerk instead of the real opinion.
 
2012-06-27 01:30:44 PM

RexTalionis: For some reason, I always thought E.J. Dionne was black.


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RIP E.J. Dionne?
 
2012-06-27 01:30:54 PM

vpb: It was done that way to keep them out of politics


Didn't work very well.
 
2012-06-27 01:31:20 PM

vpb: The Supreme court is pretty much beyond reach. It was done that way to keep them out of politics. It would take the House to impeach and the Senate to convict a justice to remove one.


The appointment is political. After that they are supposed to be above politics...not catering to the whim of the next party that might replace them. But in reality, they are political appointees and see it as a duty to not resign until their party is in power...which means...subject to the whim of their own politics instead of the other guy's.

Still, our Supreme Court system is the worst system in the history of courts...except for all the rest.
 
2012-06-27 01:32:09 PM

BillCo: Some hack liberal blogger thinks Scalia should resign. Well, that's good enough for me. Obama is hereby President for life and every woman gets an abortion, whether she wants it or not.


You become less and less interesting with each post.
 
2012-06-27 01:32:45 PM

vernonFL: BillCo: Some hack liberal blogger

E J Dionne is certainly liberal, but he's also:

Rhodes scholar, op-ed columnist for The Washington Post, Senior Fellow in Governance Studies at the Brookings Institution, a University Professor in the Foundations of Democracy and Culture at Georgetown Public Policy Institute, a Senior Research Fellow at Saint Anselm College, and an NPR Commentator.


So he's an elitist, too? Real judges go by their gut.

/And that would make Scalia one HELL of a judge.
 
2012-06-27 01:34:33 PM

slayer199: GAT_00: It's really sad you're so wrapped up in your politics you can't see a difference between a blatant political rant masquerading as a judicial opinion and an interpretation of the Constitution.

And by sad, I mean pathetic.

Did I make any comment towards any of his decisions? No. Did I say anything about my personal approval or disapproval regarding Scalia? No. My statement was as follows: "Justices aren't considered unbiased and non-political if you agree with their decisions and political leanings."

Which could mean that right-leaners won't find flaw with Scalia or that left-leaners will find flaw with Scalia. I said NOTHING about my personal feelings on the issue or anything about Scalia. It was just an observation on political human nature. Thanks for proving my point.

The fact that you took my neutral observation and twisted it into a rant speaks to YOUR political leanings, not mine. It must be comforting to view the world through your myopic lens.


Let me ask you this as why I responded the way I did:

Have you ever disagreed with one of Scalia's rulings?
 
2012-06-27 01:43:21 PM

Marcus Aurelius: Scalia should never have been appointed to begin with. He's more partisan than Rehnquist, and that's saying something.


I've heard very few lawyers comment that Scalia is even a smart guy when it comes to legal matters. He seems to be the kind of person that most people roll their eyes at when his name is mentioned.

That being said, holy cow are people whipped up into a frenzy today. You'd think that the fate of the whole of humanity was going to be decided by Kang and Kodos tomorrow.

The Freepers are probably going to be alive in lesser numbers today simply due to them having heart attacks as the result of rage typing.
 
2012-06-27 01:45:49 PM

Lurking Fear: tenpoundsofcheese: He objected to the removal of federalist judges who were supposed to have lifetime appointments.

From the wiki article:
"The heart of the allegations was that political bias had led Chase to treat defendants and their counsel in a blatantly unfair manner."

Regardless what the real reasons were, this is how they spun the impeachment.

And Scalia is seriously crossing the line lately. Consider how he conveniently announced his reversal of following precedent only last week, just in time to throw AHC under the faux news bus.


The impression I've gotten is that Scalia is the "creation science" version of judicial review. That is, make up your mind what you think the conclusion is first, and then adjust your opinions to match that outcome. The turn-about that you mention is a good example.
 
2012-06-27 01:48:42 PM

BillCo: Some hack liberal blogger thinks Scalia should resign. Well, that's good enough for me. Obama is hereby President for life and every woman gets an abortion, whether she wants it or not.


I'm looking for an iota of wit, humor, irony, relevance, intelligence or even CSB in your comment, and I'm not finding anything at all.

I don't know what it is you try to do exactly, but you're really bad at it.
 
2012-06-27 01:53:10 PM
Random other Freeper bit this morning. Apparently they think that "bisexual" means some variation of "polygamous". That amuses me.
 
2012-06-27 01:54:51 PM
Do conservatives really think that liberals would oppose "Obamacare" being struck down? After all, if that happened we'd get another chance at single payer.
 
2012-06-27 02:02:48 PM

GAT_00: Have you ever disagreed with one of Scalia's rulings?


Yes, Citizens United for one. But that's not really relevant to the discussion. The question you really want to ask is if I think his Scalia's dissent rant was appropriate. No, I do not. Do I think TFA is right in saying Scalia must step down? No, because obviously he won't and his opinions don't rise to the level of impeachment (high crimes and misdemeanors). IMHO, TFA may be on point in criticizing Scalia but since there's no chance of him stepping down because some columnist is calling for it, it's pointless and silly. TFA is meant more to incite and enrage those that don't approve of Scalia than it is to get him to step down (which you and I both know will never happen).
 
2012-06-27 02:03:46 PM

SphericalTime: Do conservatives really think that liberals would oppose "Obamacare" being struck down? After all, if that happened we'd get another chance at single payer.


I keep sayin' it.

PPaACA gets struck down in some significant way, we're single payer in 25 years because there's no other way to deal with the cost isuee.
PPaACA gets upheld, we're single payer in 50 years because there's no other way to deal with the cost issue.
 
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