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(Discover)   News: Incredibly distant galaxy discovered. F'arc: It shouldn't exist   (blogs.discovermagazine.com) divider line 68
    More: Interesting, Gravitational Lens, galaxy clusters, Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe, apparent size, event horizon, Anthony Gonzalez, dark matter, light-years  
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2012-06-27 01:00:58 PM  
Another leftover from the previous universe. We had one found last week.
 
2012-06-27 01:15:07 PM  
Sometimes I wonder if multiple bits of the universe big banged all at once, but the other banged bits are still outside the visible limits of our bits, and the unexplained accelerating expansion of our bit is caused by the gravitational pull of the other bits as they start to get closer or overlap around the edges. Maybe one day we'll all be blinded by the light of another big bang finally reaching us.

/this conjecture not supported by any significant knowledge or critical thinking on my part.
 
2012-06-27 01:19:27 PM  

simplicimus: Another leftover from the previous universe. We had one found last week.


[notsureifserious.jpeg]
 
2012-06-27 01:23:41 PM  
Luke? Leia?
 
2012-06-27 01:24:37 PM  

incendi: blinded by the light


Don't get me all revved up like a douche..
 
2012-06-27 02:00:12 PM  

markie_farkie: incendi: blinded by the light

Don't get me all revved up like a douche..


um... Deuce.

It's deuce.
 
2012-06-27 02:00:16 PM  

markie_farkie: incendi: blinded by the light

Don't get me all revved up like a douche..


iseewhatyoudidthere.jpeg
 
2012-06-27 02:03:24 PM  

markie_farkie: incendi: blinded by the light

Don't get me all revved up like a douche..


It's my little douche coupe, you don't know what I got...
 
2012-06-27 02:04:17 PM  

unchellmatt: It's deuce.


I know, but dammit, you can't listen to that song without thinking DOUCHE, HE SANG DOUCHE!
 
2012-06-27 02:07:04 PM  

markie_farkie: unchellmatt: It's deuce.

I know, but dammit, you can't listen to that song without thinking DOUCHE, HE SANG DOUCHE!


Good a reason as any!

I have nothing to add, so here is words of wisdom.

web.mit.edu
 
2012-06-27 02:08:20 PM  

incendi: Sometimes I wonder if multiple bits of the universe big banged all at once, but the other banged bits are still outside the visible limits of our bits, and the unexplained accelerating expansion of our bit is caused by the gravitational pull of the other bits as they start to get closer or overlap around the edges. Maybe one day we'll all be blinded by the light of another big bang finally reaching us.

/this conjecture not supported by any significant knowledge or critical thinking on my part.


So what you are saying is that the big bang was really a gang bang?
 
2012-06-27 02:10:59 PM  

incendi: Sometimes I wonder if multiple bits of the universe big banged all at once,


No, because you miss the entire premise of the big bang. Not only did matter not exist (in this universe) time also did not exist.

/fan of superstring theory
//i thought the same thing as you
///when i was 8 years old
 
2012-06-27 02:11:11 PM  

Slaves2Darkness: So what you are saying is that the big bang was really a gang bang?


Yep, a gang bang of cosmic proportions.
 
2012-06-27 02:13:14 PM  
So what it is?
 
2012-06-27 02:13:29 PM  
It's obviously just lensflare from a streetlight.
 
2012-06-27 02:13:49 PM  
Close up view:

www.futurama-madhouse.net
 
2012-06-27 02:15:34 PM  
Lost a galaxy, Master Obi-Wan has....
 
2012-06-27 02:16:37 PM  
"F'arc"?! The hell?
 
2012-06-27 02:17:18 PM  
*reads article*

Oh, 'arc'. plus and F. Sounds like Fark. Gotcha.
 
2012-06-27 02:17:53 PM  
er, plus an F.
 
2012-06-27 02:21:22 PM  

incendi: Slaves2Darkness: So what you are saying is that the big bang was really a gang bang?

Yep, a gang bang of cosmic proportions.


This is why we're all made of stardust.
 
2012-06-27 02:21:30 PM  
Our models of the early Universe depend on this stuff, and this new result may throw a monkey in the wrench for that.

Throw a monkey in the wrench?
 
2012-06-27 02:26:17 PM  

urban.derelict: No, because you miss the entire premise of the big bang. Not only did matter not exist (in this universe) time also did not exist.

/fan of superstring theory
//i thought the same thing as you
///when i was 8 years old


No, I don't. Maybe I should have made it clearer that that's inebriated late-night science channel conjecture, not intended to be a factual representation of my actual opinions on how the universe came to be. I'm pretty solidly on board with the consensus view, although I have to take the math on faith. And my similarly math-limited understanding of superstring theory gives my inner musician a woody.
 
2012-06-27 02:28:43 PM  

Relatively Obscure: Our models of the early Universe depend on this stuff, and this new result may throw a monkey in the wrench for that.

Throw a monkey in the wrench?


It's the monkey that evolved into my uncle.
 
2012-06-27 02:28:44 PM  

whither_apophis: So what it is?


Its a white hole!
 
2012-06-27 02:34:27 PM  
So that's where we are shipping off the Kardasians??? Take Paris Hilton and the Jacksons with them?
 
2012-06-27 02:39:27 PM  
It is either the light from the other universe that is outside of our own, or:
images.wikia.com
 
2012-06-27 02:47:30 PM  

highendmighty: It is either the light from the other universe that is outside of our own


wat
 
2012-06-27 02:47:40 PM  
Everything in the universe has symmetry. (for the most part) This is because of gravity.

So could the big bang simply be a "white hole," the opposite of a black hole? Sure it's abstract, but why is that not possible? Couldn't we be living in a multiverse where each universe is actually the core contents of a black hole exploded out?

Curious...
 
2012-06-27 02:51:46 PM  
I bet the ancient aliens put that there
 
2012-06-27 02:57:54 PM  

Recourse: whither_apophis: So what it is?

Its a white hole!


So, what is it?
 
2012-06-27 02:58:17 PM  
The LBT in Arizona has completed a long exposure image of area shown in the Hubble picture. Under that magnification it has been determined that the arc is actually just letters that read "Drink More Ovaltine"
 
2012-06-27 02:59:20 PM  
Article did not really state why the galaxy should not be there. But it is there, so saying it should not be there is wrong. Makes you wonder what else is wrong in the article.
 
2012-06-27 03:00:07 PM  

highendmighty: It is either the light from the other universe that is outside of our own, or:
[images.wikia.com image 640x268]


+1, well-done.
 
2012-06-27 03:00:34 PM  

RolandGunner: The LBT in Arizona has completed a long exposure image of area shown in the Hubble picture. Under that magnification it has been determined that the arc is actually just letters that read "Drink More Ovaltine"


That is slightly less racist than I expected, coming out of Arizona.
 
2012-06-27 03:10:12 PM  

Pick: Article did not really state why the galaxy should not be there. But it is there, so saying it should not be there is wrong. Makes you wonder what else is wrong in the article.


He linked to the explanation, which is basically an entire paper on the cluster. I'm not sure BA wanted to go into all the math and physics of explaining it.
 
2012-06-27 03:24:24 PM  
God put it there to invalidate the models. Thus proving god exits.
 
2012-06-27 03:27:39 PM  
blogs.discovermagazine.com
img411.imageshack.us
I see a man with a potato chip or a joint.
 
2012-06-27 04:02:13 PM  

FloatingBusError: Recourse: whither_apophis: So what it is?

Its a white hole!

So, what is it?


so that thing's spewing time (puts on hat) back into the universe?
 
2012-06-27 04:05:21 PM  

PirateKing: FloatingBusError: Recourse: whither_apophis: So what it is?

Its a white hole!

So, what is it?

so that thing's spewing time (puts on hat) back into the universe?


I think we've experienced this bit of time before.
 
2012-06-27 04:25:33 PM  

hawcian: Pick: Article did not really state why the galaxy should not be there. But it is there, so saying it should not be there is wrong. Makes you wonder what else is wrong in the article.

He linked to the explanation, which is basically an entire paper on the cluster. I'm not sure BA wanted to go into all the math and physics of explaining it.


The model the discoverers used predicts that there is no chance of a bright galaxy at that distance being exactly lined up with a cluster large enough to lens the image. Which means one or more of the factors in the model, or even the model itself is invalid. Maybe there are more bright galaxies or large clusters than expected. Or maybe it's a freak alignment due to random variation. If they find a second example, it's time for new ideas. Giving up your model and starting over is hard. But people do it. That's why it's called a hard science.
 
2012-06-27 04:41:13 PM  

urban.derelict: No, because you miss the entire premise of the big bang. Not only did matter not exist (in this universe) time also did not exist.



Little bit arrogant, but ok.

urban.derelict: /fan of superstring theory



Somewhat explains arrogance, ok.

urban.derelict: ///i thought the same thing as you



Conciliatory touch, nice.

urban.derelict: ///when i was 8 years old



Now you're just a dick.
 
2012-06-27 05:09:17 PM  

Relatively Obscure: Our models of the early Universe depend on this stuff, and this new result may throw a monkey in the wrench for that.

Throw a monkey in the wrench?



Yup. If your wrench is covered with monkey bits as a result of someone trying to hurl one into it, you probably won't want to use that particular tool anymore.
 
2012-06-27 05:28:14 PM  
I've always liked it when so-called scientists say "it shouldn't be!" rather than "well, shiat, our math is obviously wrong or incomplete in some way".
 
2012-06-27 06:05:00 PM  
In before Bevets.
 
2012-06-27 06:21:07 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: I've always liked it when so-called scientists say "it shouldn't be!" rather than "well, shiat, our math is obviously wrong or incomplete in some way".


I like it when a workaround is hypothesized (dark matter, dark energy, gravitons) and then proof is considered found.
/unfettered by any knowledge of physics, I am free to make such pronouncements.
 
2012-06-27 06:40:25 PM  
It's also impossible that it's noise in the CCD. Impossible.
 
2012-06-27 06:44:04 PM  

jigger: It's also impossible that it's noise in the CCD. Impossible.


Pretty unlikely. Looking at the things at the end of the universe isn't quite the same as taking pictures of that drunk slore with your cell phone as she slobs your knob in the dark corner of the club.
 
2012-06-27 07:33:04 PM  
It's a tear in the eye of God, you soulless boffins!
 
2012-06-27 07:45:21 PM  

markie_farkie: incendi: blinded by the light

Don't get me all revved up like a douche..


Isn't the word in the song actually "deuce"? "Deuce" was a common term at the time of Springsteen's youth for a kind of sporty car. Despite how it sounds when he sings it -- and let's be honest, he munges a LOT of words when he sings -- I find it much easier to believe that the Boss is talking about revving a car than a femine hygiene product.
 
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