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(RTT News)   Experts recommend that doctors screen for obesity. Apparently, looking at the patient and saying "You so fat, little patients orbit you" isn't sufficient   (rttnews.com) divider line 69
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2012-06-27 09:23:59 AM
Oh won't some Olympic athlete please come into this thread to save us all from the fraud of BMI?
 
2012-06-27 10:03:58 AM
Fat farks don't need to be told they're fat farks, they know. They just don't care.
 
2012-06-27 10:15:13 AM

Mugato: Fat farks don't need to be told they're fat farks, they know. They just don't care.


Same goes for us skinny farks. Practically every doctor I've been to tells me I need to gain weight.

Thanks doc, I don't care. I'm happy and healthy.
 
2012-06-27 10:23:59 AM

miss diminutive: Mugato: Fat farks don't need to be told they're fat farks, they know. They just don't care.

Same goes for us skinny farks. Practically every doctor I've been to tells me I need to gain weight.

Thanks doc, I don't care. I'm happy and healthy.


Yeah, I had a fat bastard doctor tell me I should gain weight. I guess fat people keep the medical industry running or something.
 
2012-06-27 11:22:53 AM
You can't just diagnose obesity just by looking at someone, you need a series of complex invasive medical tests. Hope your insurance is paid up.
 
2012-06-27 11:23:19 AM
The obesity screenings should start with the Federal government and Congress.
How many would pass?
 
2012-06-27 11:25:27 AM
Screen?
Like put up smaller doors so the fat folks can't get into the office?

They can't really install stairs, but maybe a long ramp would give the same effect.
 
2012-06-27 11:26:14 AM

Sybarite: Oh won't some Olympic athlete please come into this thread to save us all from the fraud of BMI?


I laughed.


The BMI is right more often than it is wrong.

Not to mention if you are a bloated two fisted food blister, you know you are a bloated two fisted food blister.
 
2012-06-27 11:26:55 AM
ts1.mm.bing.net
 
2012-06-27 11:27:05 AM
Do experts also recommend screening for dupes?

"Wanna get rich? Start a school for "fattie class". For 80% of Americans, it's about to be mandatory. Thank you Obama"
 
2012-06-27 11:27:34 AM
img215.imageshack.us
 
2012-06-27 11:31:38 AM
Well, no lie, when I finally had insurance and could start going to the doctor on a regular basis, he did a series of tests and came to the conclusion that I was "obese"

This was in the days before memes started, but I really wish I'd had that Nic Cage "You Don't Say?" image to show him.

There are many disorders, diseases, problems that cannot be diagnosed at a glance. Being fat is not one of them.
 
2012-06-27 11:31:50 AM

Mugato: Fat farks don't need to be told they're fat farks, they know. They just don't care.


When I was a fattie I knew and I cared. I think most do. I try to tell people now that I worked just as consistently to get fat as I did to get thin, it was just an easier and more enjoyable consistent. What would be more helpful than doctors telling people what they already know, coupled with info that they've already (most likely) tried to use and fail, is to educate on real simple and effective diet and nutrition advice that is based on serious mental changes before body changes can happen.
 
2012-06-27 11:32:06 AM

Sybarite: Oh won't some Olympic athlete please come into this thread to save us all from the fraud of BMI?



Well, to be fair, BMI really doesn't provide a whole picture. I had a doctor actually tell me that I have the BMI of an Olympic athlete, but I'm still in awful shape. I just have the metabolism of a hummingbird. It doesn't mean that I'm not at risk for high blood pressure, high cholesterol, heart disease, and the like. I still get winded riding my bicycle for more than a mile, and I live a pretty sedentary lifestyle.
 
2012-06-27 11:32:10 AM
For those of you who don't like BMI, I present an alternative fat test:

For men: Take off pants. Stand up straight. Look down. Can you see your penis?
For women: No dear, that doesn't make you look fat. I swear, honestly!

Lotta fat threads on Fark this week!
 
2012-06-27 11:32:17 AM

Cheesus: [img215.imageshack.us image 360x225]


Nicely done. Also:

Woohoo look at that blubber fly!
 
2012-06-27 11:32:23 AM
Maybe the doctor should replace the office door with a smaller one. Anyone who gets stuck needs counseling.

fatalglory.info
 
2012-06-27 11:34:45 AM
Haven't doctors been screening for obesity?

i171.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-27 11:34:47 AM
Those aren't pork rinds on her blouse, they are little patients that couldn't maintain orbit and burned up.
 
2012-06-27 11:36:19 AM

omg bbq: Sybarite: Oh won't some Olympic athlete please come into this thread to save us all from the fraud of BMI?

I laughed.


The BMI is right more often than it is wrong.

Not to mention if you are a bloated two fisted food blister, you know you are a bloated two fisted food blister.


That and it was never intended to be precise. It is a quick and easy test for the masses because math and science is hard.

Sybarite and his ilk can build all the straw men he wants but BMI does what it is supposed to do.
 
2012-06-27 11:38:57 AM
straw men they* want
 
2012-06-27 11:41:50 AM

rudemix: Mugato: Fat farks don't need to be told they're fat farks, they know. They just don't care.

When I was a fattie I knew and I cared. I think most do.


There's caring where you think to yourself "I'm getting pretty fat, this sucks" and there's caring where you actually do something about it. The first kind doesn't really count.
 
2012-06-27 11:42:35 AM
bmi says i'm obese. I sink like a rock in water. It just sucks to be called obese, especially if insurance goes by that. Mine doesn't and gave me a discount after my physical.
Just avoid those who use it.
 
2012-06-27 11:43:09 AM
People sure do have a overblown respect for the capability of doctors. Generally, most of them are fairly stupid. Take all Kaiser doctors, for example. They look at your height, then your weight, look at a chart and note that you are outside some range of the combination and say "You are obese."

I have a BMI of about 13-15. My rest heart rate is 45 with comparable blood pressure. I just finished a 300 mile bike event in less than 21 hours this last Saturday. I can do a sub 4 hour marathon. The doctor tells me that I'm obese.

I realize that most Americans are fat gobs of lazy crap, but doctors these days really do not have the capacity to go beyond some charts that are on the wall. Think of them as bad IT people with more attitude.
 
2012-06-27 11:45:24 AM
I wouldn't go as far as to say that BMI is a fraud. It is a good indicator of fat-tacularness-ness.
 
2012-06-27 11:45:44 AM

FreetardoRivera: That and it was never intended to be precise. It is a quick and easy test for the masses because math and science is hard.

Sybarite and his ilk can build all the straw men he wants but BMI does what it is supposed to do.


This. Despite the high false-positive rate (non-obese people identified as obese), the false-negative rate (obese people identified as non-obese) is rather low, and the false-negatives tend to be pretty obvious. That makes it a good initial screen: if it comes back positive, you go back for something more precise.
 
2012-06-27 11:45:54 AM
BMI is a TRUE measurement. after ALL if you're muscular you should be required to have an extra low body fat percentage. even dehydrating yourself if necessary so you can have a BMI
 
2012-06-27 11:47:52 AM
Well, do you want the simple BMI calc in the doctors office, or the expensive and time consuming dunk you ass in water tank to determine if you're obese?
 
2012-06-27 11:52:32 AM

rosebud_the_sled: I have a BMI of about 13-15. My rest heart rate is 45 with comparable blood pressure. I just finished a 300 mile bike event in less than 21 hours this last Saturday. I can do a sub 4 hour marathon. The doctor tells me that I'm obese.


That is very, very hard to believe (final sentence).

/can also do sub 4 marathon
//but 300 miles on the bike would kill me
 
2012-06-27 11:52:44 AM
There's a lardass in my office right now with a gunt that reaches her knees when she sits, so I'm getting a kick....
 
2012-06-27 11:55:01 AM
My doctor is obese.
But I picked one that casn't give me lectures.

/not a fatty.
 
2012-06-27 11:55:46 AM

Sybarite: Oh won't some Olympic athlete please come into this thread to save us all from the fraud of BMI?


Exactly
 
2012-06-27 11:56:23 AM
If you've ever had to try more than once to get up, and alcohol wasn't involved...

If you smell like gravy when you sweat...
 
2012-06-27 11:57:28 AM
 
2012-06-27 11:58:45 AM
I don't know how many times.....That BMI is bulls*h*i*t! Even in contest condition (@
 
2012-06-27 11:59:16 AM

Banned on the Run: There's a lardass in my office right now with a gunt that reaches her knees when she sits, so I'm getting a kick....


HR department?
 
2012-06-27 11:59:26 AM
Hopefully, one day, they'll come up with a test for obesity and be able to develop a cure for this terrible scourge.

Right now, we are helpless - helpless! - against it.
 
2012-06-27 12:01:06 PM

meat0918: Well, do you want the simple BMI calc in the doctors office, or the expensive and time consuming dunk you ass in water tank to determine if you're obese?


Is it really necessary?
What else could that beer gut, thunder thighs, weeble wobble walk and gigantic ass mean?

well better test anyway.....
verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-06-27 12:01:16 PM
Once they were done with the smokers, you leviathans had to know this was coming.
 
2012-06-27 12:01:33 PM

rosebud_the_sled: People sure do have a overblown respect for the capability of doctors. Generally, most of them are fairly stupid. Take all Kaiser doctors, for example. They look at your height, then your weight, look at a chart and note that you are outside some range of the combination and say "You are obese."

I have a BMI of about 13-15. My rest heart rate is 45 with comparable blood pressure. I just finished a 300 mile bike event in less than 21 hours this last Saturday. I can do a sub 4 hour marathon. The doctor tells me that I'm obese.

I realize that most Americans are fat gobs of lazy crap, but doctors these days really do not have the capacity to go beyond some charts that are on the wall. Think of them as bad IT people with more attitude.


BMI 13 to 15? At 5'10", you'd have to be 100 lbs. to have a BMI of 14. That's concentration camp stuff there.

Is your BMI 23-25?
Or do you have body fat % of 13-15? That might make sense that they could label you (likely wrongly) obese.
 
2012-06-27 12:03:20 PM

Onkel Buck: Once they were done with the smokers, you leviathans had to know this was coming.


Yeah, but just like the smokers, we couldn't run away.
 
2012-06-27 12:04:07 PM

Sticky Hands: meat0918: Well, do you want the simple BMI calc in the doctors office, or the expensive and time consuming dunk you ass in water tank to determine if you're obese?

Is it really necessary?
What else could that beer gut, thunder thighs, weeble wobble walk and gigantic ass mean?

well better test anyway.....
[verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com image 450x548]


If they want someone to cover it, yes.

For statistics gathering and scientific inquiry, yes.

So yes, it is necessary to have a standardized test for obesity. There will be outliers, that's when you can pull out some of the other tests, like the calipers or the water tank.
 
2012-06-27 12:06:15 PM
Patient: The problem is that obesity runs in my family.
Doctor: The real problem is that nobody runs in your family.
 
2012-06-27 12:18:51 PM
i45.tinypic.com

6'1.4"
310 lbs when this photo was taken

BMI 40.5
 
2012-06-27 12:22:42 PM
How big a screen do they need?

i.imgur.com
 
2012-06-27 12:24:42 PM

RedGuru: [i45.tinypic.com image 400x602]

6'1.4"
310 lbs when this photo was taken

BMI 40.5


Honest question: was that as far down as your arms could go? I would imagine that would get uncomfortable after a while.

/please don't break me
 
2012-06-27 12:29:43 PM

Sticky Hands: Onkel Buck: Once they were done with the smokers, you leviathans had to know this was coming.

Yeah, but just like the smokers, we couldn't run away.


You have no problem getting all of that moving when you are going to the buffet table.

/I am a reformed smoker, but not the holier than thou Nazi kind. Good luck to you if you decide to become a reformed fatty
 
2012-06-27 12:34:51 PM
More than half the doctors today won't tell their patients to lose weight.

You all really out to read The Citadel.

Or watch the PBS series.
 
2012-06-27 12:35:47 PM

RedGuru: [i45.tinypic.com image 400x602]

6'1.4"
310 lbs when this photo was taken

BMI 40.5


fatass eat more fat
 
2012-06-27 12:37:56 PM

miss diminutive: RedGuru: [i45.tinypic.com image 400x602]

6'1.4"
310 lbs when this photo was taken

BMI 40.5

Honest question: was that as far down as your arms could go? I would imagine that would get uncomfortable after a while.

/please don't break me


Not me, that was Mariusz Pudzianowski, my BMI is 32.7

i46.tinypic.com
 
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