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(BusinessWeek)   A new poll has Obama up in three key swing states. Super liberal media inconsolable   (businessweek.com) divider line 83
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2012-06-27 09:12:20 AM  
I don't get it.
 
2012-06-27 09:36:33 AM  

sigdiamond2000: I don't get it.


It is basic sarcasm. Media is thrilled apparently. Subby is not on the writing staff of an award winning comedy show.
 
2012-06-27 09:58:48 AM  
Doesn't make sense. The media has been saying that June has been a Very Bad Month for Obama. It's almost as if they have a vested interest in making this election appear close.
 
2012-06-27 10:03:24 AM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: Doesn't make sense. The media has been saying that June has been a Very Bad Month for Obama. It's almost as if they have a vested interest in making this election appear close.


Next you'll be telling me they never actually expected Sarah Palin to be a legitimate GOP candidate.
 
2012-06-27 10:03:57 AM  
Ignore all polls until September. That is my advice.
 
2012-06-27 10:04:12 AM  
Why is Pennsylvania considered a swing state? It hasn't gone for the GOP since 1988
 
2012-06-27 10:06:08 AM  

Aarontology: Why is Pennsylvania considered a swing state? It hasn't gone for the GOP since 1988


Close polling + lots of electoral votes?
 
2012-06-27 10:06:20 AM  

vernonFL: Ignore all polls until September. That is my advice.


I'd say wait till October, when the last bit of new dirt is slung.
 
2012-06-27 10:06:41 AM  
Being in a deep derp Red state makes my vote for Obama worthless. But I will do it anyway. Would be much more useful in a swing state.
 
2012-06-27 10:07:25 AM  
Aarontology: Why is Pennsylvania considered a swing state? It hasn't gone for the GOP since 1988

Because even though its reliably gone Dem its been like within striking distance, its like a 52/48 state, not a 70/30 state. Much the same with MI,WI, and MN
 
2012-06-27 10:08:41 AM  
I live in congressional district in metro DC area that went heavily for Obama in 2008. I just got my first Mitt Romney for President 2012 bumper sticker. I am a die hard Republican and I have put GOP bumper stickers on my car in the past. However this year I am seriously hesitating putting the Romney one on even though I very much want him to win. Reason: I fear physical assault to my person or vehicle. Furthermore I know it is early in the election cycle but I haven't seen any Romney stickers on any cars either. Anyone else having this fear?
 
2012-06-27 10:09:31 AM  
You aren't supposed to care about polling until mid-October when all the polls magically clean up their bias and revert back to a more realistic forecast. It happens every cycle so that, next cycle, they can talk about how right they were.
 
2012-06-27 10:12:03 AM  

NateGrey: I live in congressional district in metro DC area that went heavily for Obama in 2008. I just got my first Mitt Romney for President 2012 bumper sticker. I am a die hard Republican and I have put GOP bumper stickers on my car in the past. However this year I am seriously hesitating putting the Romney one on even though I very much want him to win. Reason: I fear physical assault to my person or vehicle. Furthermore I know it is early in the election cycle but I haven't seen any Romney stickers on any cars either. Anyone else having this fear?


Nope. But I do fear being a toolbag, which is what political bumper stickers make you. So grats?
 
2012-06-27 10:12:10 AM  

NateGrey: I live in congressional district in metro DC area that went heavily for Obama in 2008. I just got my first Mitt Romney for President 2012 bumper sticker. I am a die hard Republican and I have put GOP bumper stickers on my car in the past. However this year I am seriously hesitating putting the Romney one on even though I very much want him to win. Reason: I fear physical assault to my person or vehicle. Furthermore I know it is early in the election cycle but I haven't seen any Romney stickers on any cars either. Anyone else having this fear?


Aha! PROOF that libs are using intimidation and scare tactics against Romney supporters!

/I felt dirty typing that.
 
2012-06-27 10:13:28 AM  
I'm sure once you weed out the unlikely voters, it's still a very tight race.
 
2012-06-27 10:14:07 AM  
Glenn Back told me a Romney has 48 states already locked up. We don't even have to vote. Its all over.
 
2012-06-27 10:15:29 AM  
Headline: Obama Tops Romney in Poll of Three Swing-State Voters

What's the margin of error on a sample size of three?
 
2012-06-27 10:16:55 AM  

Cataholic: I'm sure once you weed out the unlikely voters, it's still a very tight race.


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2012-06-27 10:18:03 AM  
Cue new round of GOP sponsored voter suppression laws in 3 -2- 1.....
 
2012-06-27 10:20:45 AM  

qorkfiend: Close polling + lots of electoral votes?


Probably has more to do with the EC votes than anything else. Aside from 2004, it hasn't been within four points since 1988.

Oldiron_79: Because even though its reliably gone Dem its been like within striking distance, its like a 52/48 state, not a 70/30 state. Much the same with MI,WI, and MN


Maybe, but in 2008 there was something like a ten point difference.
 
2012-06-27 10:21:23 AM  

Aarontology: Why is Pennsylvania considered a swing state? It hasn't gone for the GOP since 1988


Voter supression, baby!
 
2012-06-27 10:23:26 AM  

rev. dave: Being in a deep derp Red state makes my vote for Obama worthless. But I will do it anyway. Would be much more useful in a swing state.


If you know a Conservative person in a swing state, invite him over to your house in November. Tell them there is a festival in your city giving out free guns or Nascar shirts or something. Be creative.
 
2012-06-27 10:26:09 AM  
The president holds almost a 2-1 lead among Hispanic voters in Florida, the poll found.


Who is this 1/3 of Hispanics who think voting for Romney is a good idea??
 
2012-06-27 10:28:06 AM  

Tamater: The president holds almost a 2-1 lead among Hispanic voters in Florida, the poll found.


Who is this 1/3 of Hispanics who think voting for Romney is a good idea??


Rubio supporters. Probably predominantly Cuban expats.
 
2012-06-27 10:28:49 AM  

Tamater: The president holds almost a 2-1 lead among Hispanic voters in Florida, the poll found.


Who is this 1/3 of Hispanics who think voting for Romney is a good idea??


in Florida? Cubans.
 
2012-06-27 10:31:16 AM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Cataholic: I'm sure once you weed out the unlikely voters, it's still a very tight race.

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Here comes the Science!
 
2012-06-27 10:32:09 AM  
 
2012-06-27 10:34:17 AM  

Tamater: The president holds almost a 2-1 lead among Hispanic voters in Florida, the poll found.


Who is this 1/3 of Hispanics who think voting for Romney is a good idea??


Cubans.

People who flee communist countries tend not to be leftists.
 
2012-06-27 10:34:44 AM  

NateGrey: Tamater: The president holds almost a 2-1 lead among Hispanic voters in Florida, the poll found.


Who is this 1/3 of Hispanics who think voting for Romney is a good idea??

The no position must be appealing to some?

Schieffer repeatedly asked Romney if he would repeal the order if he becomes President. Romney subsequently failed to directly answer the question.

First, he responded, "Well, let's step back and look at the issue." When asked a second time, he replied "Well, it would be overtaken by events, if you will, by virtue of my putting in place a long-term solution."


What the hell does that even mean???
 
2012-06-27 10:35:47 AM  

Crabs_Can_Polevault: NateGrey: I live in congressional district in metro DC area that went heavily for Obama in 2008. I just got my first Mitt Romney for President 2012 bumper sticker. I am a die hard Republican and I have put GOP bumper stickers on my car in the past. However this year I am seriously hesitating putting the Romney one on even though I very much want him to win. Reason: I fear physical assault to my person or vehicle. Furthermore I know it is early in the election cycle but I haven't seen any Romney stickers on any cars either. Anyone else having this fear?

Aha! PROOF that libs are using intimidation and scare tactics against Romney supporters!

/I felt dirty typing that.


Well duh. Everyone knows that all Liberals, and ONLY Liberals, are violent lunatics.
 
2012-06-27 10:37:23 AM  

Cataholic: I'm sure once you weed out the unlikely voters, it's still a very tight race.


At best registered voter poll to likely voter poll gives the GOP a 3% swing. At best. Based on GOP primary turn-out, Republican turn-out has been dropping substantially.

If Obama has a 4% - 9% lead in battle ground States. Your best case scenario of a 3% swing based on turn-out won't help you.

Add the fact that Romney boring the hell out of everyone and Obama energizing his LGBT and that spells disaster for Romney.
 
2012-06-27 10:37:59 AM  
If I weren't a recluse I'd start some serious Mormon hate in Texas and deliver it to Obama. For the LOL's.

Let's not elect a soul thieving Mormon, let's keep this at least nominal christian in office so we can elect another one in 2016. It's just four more years.
 
2012-06-27 10:38:01 AM  

salvador.hardin: Headline: Obama Tops Romney in Poll of Three Swing-State Voters

What's the margin of error on a sample size of three?


That's what I was thinking. Poorly written headline is poorly written.
 
2012-06-27 10:38:02 AM  

Wendy's Chili: Tamater: The president holds almost a 2-1 lead among Hispanic voters in Florida, the poll found.


Who is this 1/3 of Hispanics who think voting for Romney is a good idea??

Cubans.

People who flee communist countries tend not to be leftists.


Because the GOP certainly has their best interests at heart.

/enormous eyeroll
 
2012-06-27 10:40:01 AM  

tudorgurl: What the hell does that even mean???


It means Liberals Bad, basically.
 
2012-06-27 10:40:49 AM  

Wendy's Chili: People who flee communist countries tend not to be leftists confuse what the democrats do with "communism".

 
2012-06-27 10:41:55 AM  

Longtime Lurker: Tamater: The president holds almost a 2-1 lead among Hispanic voters in Florida, the poll found.


Who is this 1/3 of Hispanics who think voting for Romney is a good idea??

in Florida? Cubans.


Yep, definitely the Cubans. And maybe a few voters who are idiots and haven't figured out that this isn't the Jeb Bush version of the GOP.
 
2012-06-27 10:42:00 AM  

Aarontology: Why is Pennsylvania considered a swing state? It hasn't gone for the GOP since 1988


It's been reasonably close. 1988 is a lot more recently than many states have swung. And, it's a state that elected Rick Santorum, statewide, twice. Not that that directly translates to presidential support (Montana has two Democratic Senators and Obama doesn't stand a chance, Maine has two Republican Senators and Romney's chances aren't much better), but it's plausible.
 
2012-06-27 10:42:13 AM  
If most of the first time voters from 2008 turn out, Obama will kick Romney's ass. That said, NC is likely going red this year, and I wouldn't be surprised if Indiana and Florida flip too. The EV count is going to be much closer this year.
 
2012-06-27 10:51:20 AM  

Lawnchair: Aarontology: Why is Pennsylvania considered a swing state? It hasn't gone for the GOP since 1988

It's been reasonably close. 1988 is a lot more recently than many states have swung. And, it's a state that elected Rick Santorum, statewide, twice. Not that that directly translates to presidential support (Montana has two Democratic Senators and Obama doesn't stand a chance, Maine has two Republican Senators and Romney's chances aren't much better), but it's plausible.


The Philly suburbs always seem to be the bellweather for PA. They're usually the folks who determine whether the GOP or Democrats take the state.

Otherwise PA is either very liberal (Pittsburgh and Philly) or very conservative (everywhere outside Pittsburgh and Philly including most Pittsburgh suburbs).
 
2012-06-27 10:53:28 AM  
I don't trust this poll. It has Pennsylvania closer than Ohio, when demographically it should be the reverse. There is no way Romney can win PA without winning Ohio
 
2012-06-27 10:55:24 AM  

Lost Thought 00: I don't trust this poll. It has Pennsylvania closer than Ohio, when demographically it should be the reverse. There is no way Romney can win PA without winning Ohio


My only explanation for this anomaly is that Ohio voters are taking Romney to task for his editorial about letting GM fail.

That and Kaisch is a total dick. Corbett hasn't reached Kaisch-level dickishness yet.
 
2012-06-27 10:55:24 AM  

rev. dave: Being in a deep derp Red state makes my vote for Obama worthless. But I will do it anyway. Would be much more useful in a swing state.


Not really, it affects the total "Population" vote that the media reports on. If the population count has one guy winning and the electoral college has the other guy winning it gives partisans something to whine about all year long.
 
2012-06-27 10:56:09 AM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: Doesn't make sense. The media has been saying that June has been a Very Bad Month for Obama. It's almost as if they have a vested interest in making this election appear close.


They want a horse race.
 
2012-06-27 10:59:23 AM  

Mrtraveler01: That and Kaisch is a total dick.


OH, 26 June

Obama vs Romney: 47-44
Obama vs Romney + Kaisch: 48-42
Obama vs Romney + Boehner: 49-41

Link
 
2012-06-27 10:59:28 AM  

Tamater: Wendy's Chili: Tamater: The president holds almost a 2-1 lead among Hispanic voters in Florida, the poll found.


Who is this 1/3 of Hispanics who think voting for Romney is a good idea??

Cubans.

People who flee communist countries tend not to be leftists.

Because the GOP certainly has their best interests at heart.

/enormous eyeroll


Well... they are more likely to declare war on Cuba.

I don't know if it's a best interest, but it's certainly an interest to some.
 
2012-06-27 10:59:33 AM  

tudorgurl: What the hell does that even mean???


This was probably Romney's most intelligence-insulting statement yet. He basically said "I'll revoke Obama's policy, which is only temporary, and replace it with my own, permanent policy, to be announced later."
 
2012-06-27 11:05:58 AM  

Wendy's Chili: Tamater: Wendy's Chili: Tamater: The president holds almost a 2-1 lead among Hispanic voters in Florida, the poll found.


Who is this 1/3 of Hispanics who think voting for Romney is a good idea??

Cubans.

People who flee communist countries tend not to be leftists.

Because the GOP certainly has their best interests at heart.

/enormous eyeroll

Well... they are more likely to declare war on Cuba.

I don't know if it's a best interest, but it's certainly an interest to some.


Plus throw in there are few fundie Hispanics who are offended by pro-gay pro-abortion rights etc...
 
2012-06-27 11:08:50 AM  

King Something: Dusk-You-n-Me: Doesn't make sense. The media has been saying that June has been a Very Bad Month for Obama. It's almost as if they have a vested interest in making this election appear close.

They want a horse race.


They constantly refer to candidates being vetted which is literally a term borrowed from horse racing.
 
2012-06-27 11:12:17 AM  

Cataholic: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Cataholic: I'm sure once you weed out the unlikely voters, it's still a very tight race.

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Ummm


From June 19 - 25, Quinnipiac University surveyed:

1,200 Florida voters with a margin of error of +/- 2.8 percent;
1,237 Ohio voters with a margin of error of +/- 2.8 percent;
1,252 Pennsylvania voters with a margin of error of +/- 2.8 percent.


I'm imagining "voters" are pretty close to "likely voters".
 
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