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(LA Times)   So, let me get this straight. Congress has a 79% disapproval rating yet you keep sending these same brainless pusbags back to Congress? Is that about right?   (latimes.com) divider line 196
    More: Ironic, congresses, R-Utah, disapproval, editing, Richard G. Lugar  
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2012-06-27 03:52:01 AM  
All politics is local, my Congresswoman is Okay it's you're that's a dickhead.
 
2012-06-27 03:56:03 AM  
Its because no matter what, ya gotta support your team. Who cares if you have a shiatty Congressperson, just as long as the other side doesnt get the seat
 
2012-06-27 06:35:27 AM  
Incumbents have rigged the system to give incumbents a huge advantage. Film at 11.
 
2012-06-27 06:53:10 AM  
Yeah, Senator Gassbag is a crook...but he's OUR crook!
 
2012-06-27 07:17:15 AM  
Individual members have always had a higher approval rating in their own districts than Congress as a whole. Seems that the prevailing attitude is that "Congress sucks, but my Congresscritter is trying to overcome that" generally.
 
2012-06-27 07:27:56 AM  
I'd say a large part of it is because Congress is widely (and accurately) perceived as wasteful, each supporting projects that are bad for the country as a whole but good for their districts. People are upset that all those other congressmen are wasting their money on other people, but always happy to receive money from everyone else.
 
2012-06-27 07:47:37 AM  
What's been the average approval rating for congress? The data I've found only goes back as far as 2005 and it never went above 40% and mostly stayed between 20-30%.

Don't people generally gripe about congress? It seems like an American tradition.
 
2012-06-27 07:49:43 AM  
Can't speak for anyone else, but my senators (Casey jr and Toomey) and my rep (Holden) aren't ever getting my vote again.
Or ever in Toomey's case.
 
2012-06-27 07:56:44 AM  
My Rep (Buerkle) is a psycho hosebag. And she's running against my former Rep (Maffei) who sucks and whom she defeated last time around. So, I've got that going for me.
 
2012-06-27 08:23:22 AM  
Looks like those clowns in Congress did it again! What a bunch of clowns.
 
2012-06-27 08:40:30 AM  
term limits

Term Limits

Term Limits
 
2012-06-27 08:41:04 AM  
Just looked this up out of curiosity.

sas-origin.onstreammedia.com
 
2012-06-27 08:41:52 AM  
Sorry submitter, my Congressman voted against both the Iraq war AND the PATRIOT Act. How about yours?
 
2012-06-27 09:03:12 AM  
Anyone who watches congress on C-Span or anywhere else can see that they're children. They argue and cry and stomp their feet like farking 5 year olds. The very concept of the filibuster is farking retarded. So yeah, Congress sucks. It doesn't matter what side of the aisle they're on and it doesn't matter who we elect. Captain America could be elected a congressman and he would instantly become a chode. It's not going to change.
 
2012-06-27 09:10:56 AM  
Submitter:

deadhomersociety.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-06-27 09:19:31 AM  

Sybarite: Just looked this up out of curiosity.

[sas-origin.onstreammedia.com image 507x264]


9/11 was very good for Congress.
 
2012-06-27 09:29:08 AM  
Well if the option is your current elected official or some nut job Tea Bagger which way do you go?
 
2012-06-27 10:40:38 AM  
People think Congress sucks, but don't believe thier congressman is part of the problem.

Should we send the chopper on this one, Mr. Romero?

I'll admit. My congressman is most definitely part of the problem.
 
2012-06-27 10:40:50 AM  
"But, officer, he only does it 'cos he LOVES ME!!! I'll take him back this time."

-- every battered wife on COPS, every American conservative voter
 
2012-06-27 10:41:18 AM  
Everyone's Congressman sucks except mine.

/well, mine sucks too - Jim Moran
//I can deal with the liberalism
///the anti-semtism, racism, assault, and philandering not so much
 
2012-06-27 10:43:38 AM  
TRUE STORY: My Congressman Robert Dold, who I voted against; came to a beer market (restaurant that only serves beer) and was talking to people. He came up to my friends and I and did the usual political BS talk. He asked me what keeps me up at night I said, "The prospect of a Mitt Romney presidency" I also asked "What have you specifically done since getting elected" he couldn't come up with a singular answer just threw out bullshiat key words like Bipartisanship. I will be voting against him again for being a John Edwards haircut with nothing to back it up.
 
2012-06-27 10:44:14 AM  
I like my Congressman (Mike Capuano). He votes straight liberal, which is what I want. It's not his fault that the rest of the country is now run by Teatards.
 
2012-06-27 10:44:48 AM  
My disapproval rating is 98.8%.

Hate them all except for MINE.
 
2012-06-27 10:45:15 AM  
If people mostly agree with their Congressman but dislike Congress that's probably more a sign of increasing disagreement in the country.

At least, that makes far more sense than thinking that people hate their own Congressman's actions so much that they only say they approve of them and vote for them while secretly hoping for their downfall.
 
2012-06-27 10:45:16 AM  

stoli n coke: People think Congress sucks, but don't believe thier congressman is part of the problem.

Should we send the chopper on this one, Mr. Romero?

I'll admit. My congressman is most definitely part of the problem.


As is mine; it's Nan "Acid to the face" Hayworth.
 
2012-06-27 10:45:17 AM  
I like how people think replacing incumbents or enacting term limits will somehow make things better.
 
2012-06-27 10:45:26 AM  
Well, of course everyone will keep voting for THEIR congresscritter, it's just those OTHER congresscritters that are worthless. Or, if you try and vote someone else in, the guy from the other party might win, and that would Be Worse.
 
2012-06-27 10:45:40 AM  
Eh my Rep(Tonko) might as well be running unopposed, but he does seem mostly on the ball and has had a few instances where he shows to be bothered by the insanity that surrounds him. I wouldn't feel awful for throwing him a vote. But it is all just another symptom to the winner take all system we got set up. If it was a bit more parliamentary with multiple candidates and winners we could all move on to better things.
 
2012-06-27 10:46:38 AM  
Mrs Bachmann is always getting on tv and what not, she must be good for my community.
 
2012-06-27 10:47:09 AM  

babygoat: I like how people think replacing incumbents or enacting term limits will somehow make things better.


It's a very doable change to make, and it might make things better. That makes it worth doing, doesn't it? Nobody expects change overnight, of course.
 
2012-06-27 10:47:19 AM  
1. The political System is rigged to favor incumbents.
2. Districts are frequently gerrymandered.
3. Incumbents are often not challenged seriously due to these advantages.
4. Ranking by seniority plays a hand here as well.
 
2012-06-27 10:47:25 AM  
I think part of the problem is that they're corporate shills and have way too much money invested to get ousted and the other part being my generation and younger don't care about politics to get involved, just biatch and moan about how they're getting screwed
 
2012-06-27 10:47:32 AM  
Maybe voters are remembering the last anti-incumbent wave that swept a bunch of tea-derpers into Congress.
 
2012-06-27 10:47:34 AM  

Hershey Highway Patrol: Well if the option is your current elected official or some nut job Tea Bagger which way do you go?


My district picked the Tea Bagger last time. I'm not holding out hope that we'll rectify the situation.
 
2012-06-27 10:48:27 AM  

vernonFL: term limits

Term Limits

Term Limits


Yes. It would be impossible for special interests to take advantage of that arrangement. All of our problems would be solved.

Let's suspend their pay too if they pass continuing resolutions instead of fresh new budgets. In fact, let's do all the dumb shiat "moderate, independent" Mark McKinnon wants to do that will more swiftly concentrate power in the hands of those who already have it.

Bloomberg 2012 Forever
 
2012-06-27 10:49:26 AM  

vernonFL: term limits

Term Limits

Term Limits


Yeah, because the new idiots are so much better than the old idiots. Term limits won't stop XY (tm) funded congressmen from getting reelected over and over because you just swap out the congressman every 4 years all still backed by XY (tm) corp.
 
2012-06-27 10:53:47 AM  

borg: All politics is local, my Congresswoman is Okay it's you're that's a dickhead.


Pretty much

My Reps opponent this year is Art Robinson. A creationist, a tax protester, a man that once advocated for dumping our nuclear waste at the bottom of the ocean as well as incorporating it into home foundations, because of his unconfirmed idea that low levels of radiation improve health.

If I don't want crazy, I have to vote for the incumbent.

But the incumbent is Peter DeFazio, a man well liked by the area's Democrats and moderate Republicans.
 
2012-06-27 10:54:43 AM  
Okay, so maybe term limits aren't the answer. Do you have any better ideas?
 
2012-06-27 10:56:11 AM  

born_yesterday: Looks like those clowns in Congress did it again! What a bunch of clowns.


How do you keep up on the news like that?
 
2012-06-27 10:56:19 AM  
Thanks to a Republican state legislature, they gerrymandered nearly all the Congressional House districts to force Democrat incumbents to run against each other, or split up Democratic majorities into massively Republican areas, diluting their vote. I ended up in some rambling district that runs from Chapel Hill, south of Durham, curls up the east side of Raleigh and almost up to Wake Forest, and also runs a narrow little trail down to northern Fayetteville.

Meanwhile Teatard Renee Ellmers gets a gerrymandered district that picks through rural (Teabagger heaven) NC counties and avoids most if not all the heavily Democratic areas. Our districts still haven't been approved by Federal judges, but everyone's acting as if they will be despite the massive gerrymandering.

/Raleigh is now split among three House members
//but this isn't gerrymandering, according to the NC GOP
 
2012-06-27 10:57:02 AM  

LasersHurt: babygoat: I like how people think replacing incumbents or enacting term limits will somehow make things better.

It's a very doable change to make, and it might make things better. That makes it worth doing, doesn't it? Nobody expects change overnight, of course.


How exactly is it supposed to make things better?
 
2012-06-27 10:57:12 AM  

vernonFL: Okay, so maybe term limits aren't the answer. Do you have any better ideas?


Election by lottery of all eligible citizens, single terms, and laws guaranteeing the "winner" can return to his/her job after serving.
 
2012-06-27 10:57:14 AM  

LasersHurt: babygoat: I like how people think replacing incumbents or enacting term limits will somehow make things better.

It's a very doable change to make, and it might make things better. That makes it worth doing, doesn't it? Nobody expects change overnight, of course.


It won't.

It'll remove all experience from the legislature, making it even more beholden to lobbyists and staffers than it currently is. It'll make officials more prone to corruption, by removing the only accountability they have, and ensuring that they'll have to groom their job prospects while in office. It will encourage even more "kick the can" behavior than we currently see; officeholders will focus on personal short-term benefit (like selling off state assets to balance the budget, since you'll be long gone before that fiscal problem comes home to roost) instead of long-term goals.

I also find term limits to be anti-democratic. If the electorate is strongly in favor of a particular officeholder, there's no reason they should be legally barred from electing them as many times as they want.
 
2012-06-27 10:58:25 AM  

SilentStrider: Can't speak for anyone else, but my senators (Casey jr and Toomey) and my rep (Holden) aren't ever getting my vote again.
Or ever in Toomey's case.



Well Holden lost his primary, so you won't be able to vote for him. Though I assume that you aren't in his district anyway since he got re-redistricted to Northeast PA. Depending on where you in in Central PA, you get to vote against two Tea Baggers running for US House though...
 
2012-06-27 10:58:44 AM  
It's all about the bennies.

In my wild days a guy might annoy me, but if the sex was good I'd keep him around until something better came along.

Apparently most people like the @$$ farking they get from their congress-critter. Who knew?
 
2012-06-27 10:58:57 AM  
I think for the most part people are voting for those they think they want to represent them. It's just that when all the congress people find themselves in the same room, they act like petulant children and refuse to see things from their opponent's viewpoint. They refuse to work together as a team to solve problems and so nothing of importance is accomplished. Approval rating plummets and they focus instead on telling people why it's by-and-large the other guy's fault.
 
2012-06-27 10:59:18 AM  
No member of Congress has to convince his (or her, as the case may be) constituents that Congress is doing a good job, only that those other guys are doing a bad job. He, of course, is above all that and is working hard to represent his district. Do this enough times, and you get a lot of incumbents.

Term limits are a standard proposal for dealing with this, but Virginia actually has a rule for its governors that I find interesting. You can be elected as many times as you can convince the people to vote for you, but never twice consecutively: if you are in office, you must sit the next election out.

I think that would do a lot of good. It completely does away with the incumbent's advantage, because the incumbent never runs, but it does this without placing arbitrary limits on how many times the people can elect someone. It has particularly good potential in the House, with its short two-year terms: House members often complain that they have to devote large parts of their terms to fundraising, and this would go a long way toward alleviating that problem.
 
2012-06-27 11:00:24 AM  
I'm working for my congressman's opponent. I don't like him all that much, but he's not Phil Gingrey.
 
2012-06-27 11:00:44 AM  
You can swap out the elected officials all you want, and it won't matter. That's because people are misplacing their anger. They think the problem lies with the people in Congress, when their real problem is that democracy behaves one way in reality and a completely different way in their fantasized notion of democracy they have in their heads.

The system is working the only way it can work. It is designed to work this way. The problem is that Americans can't reach a consensus on anything anymore. You can't even get one family to come to an agreement on the issues we face today. Why would you expect hundreds of people from every corner of the country to be any more agreeable?
 
2012-06-27 11:01:56 AM  
My rep is former Mayor of Hazleton, PA, Lou Barletta. He's Joe Apario North. He came in with the Tea Party tide (i.e. the lassitude of the liberals) in 2010. He's going to lose this November, because he's done nothing of note, and he's in a fairly blue region of the state. Plus he's running against a local liberal in Blue Dog Democrat's clothing: Matt Cartwright (a personal injury attorney). I predict a 10+ percentage victory for Cartwright.
 
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