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2012-06-26 06:07:46 PM  
Personally, I avoid Redbox and Netflix. If I wanna watch a movie on DVD, I buy it. If I don't own it, I don't want it.

More power to the people who wanna stream movies though... If you want limited selection and hate to leave the house, it's your life..
 
2012-06-26 06:13:53 PM  

diaphoresis: Personally, I avoid Redbox and Netflix. If I wanna watch a movie on DVD, I buy it. If I don't own it, I don't want it.

More power to the people who wanna stream movies though... If you want limited selection and hate to leave the house, it's your life..


This is the worst attempt at being snooty that I've seen in a while.
 
2012-06-26 06:15:19 PM  
Personally, I avoid Redbox, Netflix, and DVDs. If I wanna watch a movie, I produce and direct one. If I didn't make it, I don't want it.

More power to the people who wanna watch others' movies though... If you want no creative freedom and hate imagination, it's your life..
 
2012-06-26 06:18:33 PM  
I'd rather stream because then the chances of the DVD being scratched all to hell by some overly manicured ape is nil.
 
2012-06-26 06:28:43 PM  
There's no such thing as a company not run by shiatheads. Just one that hasn't farked it's customers over yet. It will. They all do.
 
2012-06-26 06:55:47 PM  
Personally I avoid movies altogether. If I cant create my own real world drama, I dont want it.

More power to the people who wanna watch their own movies though...if you want to be a knuckle dragging philistine and huff glue. Its your life.
 
2012-06-26 07:05:41 PM  
Coinstar isn't a bunch of shiatheads?
 
2012-06-26 07:19:48 PM  

Relatively Obscure: Personally, I avoid Redbox, Netflix, and DVDs. If I wanna watch a movie, I produce and direct one. If I didn't make it, I don't want it.

More power to the people who wanna watch others' movies though... If you want no creative freedom and hate imagination, it's your life..


I lol'd.
 
2012-06-26 07:37:54 PM  
You think that's bad? hahahaha... My dad worked for AT&T when they bought NCR for like a gazillion dollars in today's dollars...

NCR was acquired September 19, 1991 by AT&T for $7.4 billion and was joined with Teradata Corporation on February 28, 1992. As an AT&T subsidiary, its 1992 year-end headcount was 53,800 employees and contractors.[11] By 1993, the subsidiary produced a year-end $1.287 billion net loss on $7.265 billion in revenue. The net losses continued in 1994 and 1995, losses that required repeated subsidies from the parent company and resulted in a 1995 year-end headcount of 41,100.[11] During these three years, AT&T was the former NCR's largest customer, accounting for over $1.5 billion in revenue.[11]

I'm just amazed they are still in business. It was one of the biggest flops in business history, the failed acquisition by AT&T.
 
2012-06-26 07:39:59 PM  
Fools. The future of entertainment is LaserDisc.
 
2012-06-26 07:41:43 PM  
that article was from MONTHS ago. Netflix isn't going to stop with dvd's. It's nice to have a choice as the dvd library is still far larger than streaming.
 
2012-06-26 07:42:20 PM  

NewportBarGuy: You think that's bad? hahahaha...


I still have At&t stock from when my wife worked at Bell Labs for years!!

/wait,what?
 
2012-06-26 07:50:56 PM  
Redbox's one saving grace is the fact that as telecommunications companies continue to consolidate and merge, it seems as though internet speeds in this country are getting slower, and bandwidth caps are getting smaller, and there ain't jack any of us can do about it.

Consistent high quality HD Streaming is still a pipe dream for a lot of people, even those on a traditional Cable or DSL connection, and it seems as though the ISP's are all collectively trying to kill peoples obsession with it quick, rather than upgrade their bandwidth capacity.
 
2012-06-26 07:51:54 PM  
Old news is old. Seriously, Subby... February?
 
2012-06-26 08:46:57 PM  

Relatively Obscure: Personally, I avoid Redbox, Netflix, and DVDs. If I wanna watch a movie, I produce and direct one. If I didn't make it, I don't want it.

More power to the people who wanna watch others' movies though... If you want no creative freedom and hate imagination, it's your life..


Winner.
 
2012-06-26 08:55:56 PM  
Personally I avoid the real world altogether. If I cant imagine it by staring at the wall in Mother's basement, I don't want it.

More power to the people who need "friends" though...if you want to be one of the sheeple who doesn't vote for Ron Paul, it's your life...
 
2012-06-26 10:08:21 PM  

Ed Finnerty: Fools. The future of entertainment is LaserDisc.


The quality is really much higher than VHS, and they're more compact -- I can't see the market not swinging this way:

i.imgur.com
 
2012-06-26 10:15:44 PM  

Netflix' streaming is slowly getting better and better. I was surprised the other day to see a current DVD release already on Netflix streaming.


But I'll still take DVDs over streaming because cable internet connections are still flaky. And every once in awhile my Roku will just freeze up.


I guess the loser in the hard media area is Sony, who fought tooth and nail to make BluRay the HD media winner, only to see everyone continue to say streaming is the future. I still haven't bought a BluRay player and don't know why I should.

 
2012-06-26 11:12:52 PM  

skinink: I still haven't bought a BluRay player and don't know why I should.


i48.tinypic.com
 
2012-06-26 11:22:58 PM  
Torrents are superior again.

Eventually, movie companies will have to resort to them. They just don't want to.
 
2012-06-26 11:29:23 PM  
Personally I avoid thinking at all. If I can't fark it or fondle it, I don't want it.

More power to the people who need their brains though...if you want to be one of the celibates who dont like to orgasm, it's your life...
 
2012-06-26 11:35:49 PM  
Personally I avoid being snooty in Fark.com threads. If it isn't worth my time, I don't want to say it.

More power to those who need to be snooty though... if you want to be one of those hipsters who hates things that other people like, it's your life...
 
2012-06-26 11:38:37 PM  
Personally, I avoid Redbox, Netflix, and DVDs. If I wanna watch a movie, I write, budget, produce, direct, market and star in it. If I didn't write, budget, produce,direct, market and star in it, I don't want it.
 
2012-06-26 11:40:34 PM  
DVDs may be less popular, but until everything ever published on DVD is available from Netflix streaming (and it's not even close), then they aren't going anywhere.

And by the way, Reed - the reason Qwikster failed is because you totally botched it. It had nothing to do with DVD popularity. If you were so well positioned for the "inevitability" of streaming, your stock wouldn't have dropped 75%.
 
2012-06-26 11:42:00 PM  
Personally, I like to make posts that fit the theme of an ongoing joke.
 
2012-06-26 11:42:56 PM  

diaphoresis: Personally, I avoid Redbox and Netflix. If I wanna watch a movie on DVD, I buy it. If I don't own it, I don't want it.

More power to the people who wanna stream movies though... If you want limited selection and hate to leave the house, it's your life..


Pfft. Whatever. You probably have one of those faddish "mobile phones."

/Land line for life
 
2012-06-27 12:16:21 AM  
When Netflix raised their prices, I was fine with it. I'd been following the press for years and knew it was inevitable.

Sure, they handled it in the worst way possible. But at the end of the day, what are the alternatives?

I used to walk past the neighborhood Blockbuster a few times a week, even though I hadn't gone there in years. When they were closing down, I walked in and took a look around to see what I could get at a bargain price. I listened to the employees biatch and moan about how they were losing their jobs and how unfair it was to them while I shopped. Ultimately, I walked out with nothing.

I'm streaming Netflix as I type this and I have a DVD sitting on my entryway cabinet that's been there for two weeks. It'll probably be another week before I get to it.

I've got 200+ movies queued up to last me for a while. With a two-year old and eight-month old at home, movies are the only entertainment we have for now. And I'm fine with that.

Once I start directing my kids in our own movies, you can all lick my taint.
 
2012-06-27 12:17:09 AM  
Never considered Blockbuster shiatheads, just in a business where there was a logical end once a cheaper competitor had a successful business strategy.
 
2012-06-27 12:20:37 AM  

NewportBarGuy: You think that's bad? hahahaha... My dad worked for AT&T when they bought NCR for like a gazillion dollars in today's dollars...

NCR was acquired September 19, 1991 by AT&T for $7.4 billion and was joined with Teradata Corporation on February 28, 1992. As an AT&T subsidiary, its 1992 year-end headcount was 53,800 employees and contractors.[11] By 1993, the subsidiary produced a year-end $1.287 billion net loss on $7.265 billion in revenue. The net losses continued in 1994 and 1995, losses that required repeated subsidies from the parent company and resulted in a 1995 year-end headcount of 41,100.[11] During these three years, AT&T was the former NCR's largest customer, accounting for over $1.5 billion in revenue.[11]

I'm just amazed they are still in business. It was one of the biggest flops in business history, the failed acquisition by AT&T.


Mark Hurd left NCR to head up HP. Its almost like he was responsible for two huge flops...
 
2012-06-27 12:31:20 AM  

HempHead: Mark Hurd left NCR to head up HP. Its almost like he was responsible for two huge flops...


Which is complete bullshiat. AT&T spun the business back off in 1996. Hurd didn't become President of NCR until 2001. And by all accounts - he was doing a decent job at HP prior to his fark ups with some woman which was compounded by the complete and utter incompetence of the HP board of directors. The guy has his flaws - managing a business is not one of them.
 
2012-06-27 12:35:47 AM  
I'm a little curious about Redbox's future. They seem like a good idea and cut the old retail video store model to its basics (no real backstock except if popular, just the new releases), but I don't see the long term potential in it. It has the same lack of selection Netflix Streaming does but with the added burden of vending machines and selling off the old shiatty discs.
 
2012-06-27 12:40:19 AM  

Guntram Shatterhand: I'm a little curious about Redbox's future. They seem like a good idea and cut the old retail video store model to its basics (no real backstock except if popular, just the new releases), but I don't see the long term potential in it. It has the same lack of selection Netflix Streaming does but with the added burden of vending machines and selling off the old shiatty discs.


They may just end up the favored destination of those too poor or unwilling to do streaming services. Redbox isn't burdened with leases for whole buildings or nearly the number of employees to pay cutting down on overhead greatly compared to Blockbuster. It isn't meant to last perpetually, but until the market changes to show them a new path they're hardly in a bad spot.
 
2012-06-27 12:45:45 AM  
Personally, I liked Hollywood Video better than Blockbuster. Blockbuster employee uniforms always looked tacky.
 
2012-06-27 12:50:37 AM  

Ken VeryBigLiar: They may just end up the favored destination of those too poor or unwilling to do streaming services. Redbox isn't burdened with leases for whole buildings or nearly the number of employees to pay cutting down on overhead greatly compared to Blockbuster. It isn't meant to last perpetually, but until the market changes to show them a new path they're hardly in a bad spot.


That's why I bought shares in the company. People want to watch movies and it's pretty much the cheapest way to do it for lower income folks. Considering how that population is growing, I'm confident the investment will improve over the current 40% return.
 
2012-06-27 01:00:57 AM  

NewportBarGuy: That's why I bought shares in the company. People want to watch movies and it's pretty much the cheapest way to do it for lower income folks. Considering how that population is growing, I'm confident the investment will improve over the current 40% return.


40%, good lord. And I'm watching a company that we insure like a sucker hoping they Link (or one of their competitors they fought off years ago) get more work. Probably won't be any positive traction for them until at least 2014, though.
 
2012-06-27 01:07:07 AM  

gingerjet: HempHead: Mark Hurd left NCR to head up HP. Its almost like he was responsible for two huge flops...

Which is complete bullshiat. AT&T spun the business back off in 1996. Hurd didn't become President of NCR until 2001. And by all accounts - he was doing a decent job at HP prior to his fark ups with some woman which was compounded by the complete and utter incompetence of the HP board of directors. The guy has his flaws - managing a business is not one of them.


I said almost.
 
2012-06-27 01:18:56 AM  
I gave up and resubscribe netflix, for dvds. Their streaming selections SUCKS big time, but their dvd collection is still one to beat.
 
2012-06-27 01:49:36 AM  

Ken VeryBigLiar: 40%, good lord.


Yeah, well, it's more than offset by the bath I'm taking on Nokia. Hey, if I take the loss, at least I don't pay taxes this year! Woo hoo!
 
2012-06-27 02:16:54 AM  
Personally, I avoid cellular replication at all. If I can't move to it by waving my flagellum or experience it in rudimentary black and white with basic photosensitivity, then I don't want it.
 
2012-06-27 02:34:16 AM  
unyon 2012-06-27 02:16:54 AM

[flagellum, etc]

winner winner paramecium dinner
 
2012-06-27 03:03:18 AM  

marcre3363: When Netflix raised their prices, I was fine with it. I'd been following the press for years and knew it was inevitable.

Sure, they handled it in the worst way possible. But at the end of the day, what are the alternatives?

I used to walk past the neighborhood Blockbuster a few times a week, even though I hadn't gone there in years. When they were closing down, I walked in and took a look around to see what I could get at a bargain price. I listened to the employees biatch and moan about how they were losing their jobs and how unfair it was to them while I shopped. Ultimately, I walked out with nothing.

I'm streaming Netflix as I type this and I have a DVD sitting on my entryway cabinet that's been there for two weeks. It'll probably be another week before I get to it.

I've got 200+ movies queued up to last me for a while. With a two-year old and eight-month old at home, movies are the only entertainment we have for now. And I'm fine with that.

Once I start directing my kids in our own movies, you can all lick my taint.


The aristrocrats!

/wait, what?
 
2012-06-27 03:17:08 AM  
Personally, I never watch any movies or television. In fact, I have never used a computer.

/That is all.
 
2012-06-27 04:05:26 AM  

Relatively Obscure: Personally, I avoid Redbox, Netflix, and DVDs. If I wanna watch a movie, I produce and direct one. If I didn't make it, I don't want it.

More power to the people who wanna watch others' movies though... If you want no creative freedom and hate imagination, it's your life..


I know someone like that.

Snooty, hell yes.

Stupid, not so much. He took that attitude and made "Taking Chance". Got an Academy Award for it too.

/Shoutout to Ross!
 
2012-06-27 04:33:29 AM  
I don't use Redbox, but the ones I pass on a regular basis always have somebody using them.
 
2012-06-27 04:38:51 AM  
Personally, I avoid [noun]. If I wanna [verb] the [noun], I [verb] it. If I don't [verb] it, I don't want it.

More power to the people who wanna [verb] [noun]s though... If you want [negative phrase], it's your life..


/ITT: Birth of a Fark meme.
 
2012-06-27 06:38:28 AM  
being shiatheads can do to your company? What does that even mean like say of?
 
2012-06-27 06:40:20 AM  

Mixolydian Master: Personally, I avoid Redbox, Netflix, and DVDs. If I wanna watch a movie, I write, budget, produce, direct, market and star in it. If I didn't write, budget, produce,direct, market and star in it, I don't want it.


Your movies suck. and you ruined Katie.
 
2012-06-27 07:00:29 AM  

bhcompy: Never considered Blockbuster shiatheads, just in a business where there was a logical end once a cheaper competitor had a successful business strategy.


In the early 2000s I rented a new release Friday night - they wanted it back by 11am the next day or they'd charge late fees. I have a friend who had a collector sent after him because he had a $11 late charge from a few weeks prior.

A few years later they started their "no late fees" campaign. It was a flat-out lie, and 47 states filed a lawsuit.

They treated their customers like crap and are gone. Good riddance.
 
2012-06-27 07:20:55 AM  

Guntram Shatterhand: I'm a little curious about Redbox's future. They seem like a good idea and cut the old retail video store model to its basics (no real backstock except if popular, just the new releases), but I don't see the long term potential in it. It has the same lack of selection Netflix Streaming does but with the added burden of vending machines and selling off the old shiatty discs.


There are two people at my work that LOVE Redbox, It's their "video store". Apparently, you can sign up for an actual account and the little kiosks will hold movies for you and send you an email alert when a certain movie is available. It's pretty handy actually, especially if the Redbox is located right by your house. They also give you a "get the tenth rental free" and other little spiffs...

I guess sometimes people just want to grab a movie for a buck-20.
 
2012-06-27 07:26:48 AM  
I'm kinda surprised NCR had the forethought to try and make a go of the video
rental kisok business.
 
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