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(Buzzfeed)   McDonald's 1976: Hey black people, you will really like it here because you don't have to tip, or get dressed up   (buzzfeed.com) divider line 285
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2012-06-27 10:57:17 AM  

DiamondDave: king of vegas: works

I've delivered pizza in the past to pick up some extra money. The black drivers wouldn't take deliveries into black neighborhoods.

Wanna guess why?


They feared getting shot by a rival gang.
 
2012-06-27 11:02:09 AM  

penthesilea: Check out this 2012 happy meal box pic that was posted in the comments:

[i470.photobucket.com image 605x750]


They even included the funky black glasses for the architect. All she's missing is a Saab.
 
2012-06-27 11:03:45 AM  

DiamondDave: Easy Reader: Was there ever a time when "dinnertimin'" was an actual noun?

It would be a verb.


Errr, no. A gerund or present participle maybe, but not a verb. And the copy makes it look like an actual noun.

Also, a Google search on "dinnertimin'" didn't give many hits, so I starting to doubt anyone ever actually used it.
 
2012-06-27 11:10:17 AM  
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2012-06-27 11:13:00 AM  

dc0012c: Also, some of you young whipper-snappers may be ignorant of the culture of the 70's in regard to the advent of the black community's incorporation into "mainstream" America. McD's was a ground breaker and pretty damn smart to play to black families as they became an increasingly more important consumer group. For a quick overview of the racial stupidity that used to exist on the airwaves, check out this tidbit from a rather unpopular, but ultimately influential, TV show from 1968 (Link).


I know it's been said many times before, but the parallel between the flap about interracial affection/sex/marriage in the 1960s and about homosexual affection/sex/marriage now is pretty damn overwhelming.
 
2012-06-27 11:19:48 AM  

Faddy: DiamondDave: king of vegas: works

I've delivered pizza in the past to pick up some extra money. The black drivers wouldn't take deliveries into black neighborhoods.

Wanna guess why?

They feared getting shot by a rival gang.


Of course not - it's because no orders ever came from there!
 
2012-06-27 11:23:17 AM  
These aren't racist.

Hell, compared to the "Black people dancing the vaguely ethnic music and eating chicken" ads we get nowadays, these look like they were created by MLK.
 
2012-06-27 11:25:42 AM  
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2012-06-27 11:29:13 AM  

rcf1105: dahmers love zombie: farm4.staticflickr.com

My favorite part of this ad is how they're specifically advertising orange drink. Not orange juice - they know that black people want that orange drink.


Andy Griffith would like a word
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2012-06-27 11:39:37 AM  
Wait, they had fathers back then? Makes me believe this is a photoshop.
 
2012-06-27 12:28:03 PM  

Chariset: Apparently black people don't use no 'g's


The sheriff is ni'er.
 
2012-06-27 01:00:19 PM  

Ral: NewportBarGuy: You know who are the worst tippers on the planet? Germans. Seriously. Whether I was selling frozen lemonade as a kid or serving them drinks at a bar. Worst. Tippers. Ever. (On the rare occasion they actually tipped.)

Wouldn't that be an issue with Europeans in general? Because I'm told that tipping is basically unknown in Europe (and Japan), so people from there would not understand that they're supposed to do it.


That excuse works exactly once. But when you spend your six farking weeks of vacation in my Florida town every year and still leave a (literal) pocket change tip on the bill for your multihour meal with copious alcohol for you and your 8 closest friends it begins to wear thin. Learn something about the place you come year after year. I was only a bus boy, but you can bet that some of the wait staff followed some people into the parking lot to have a discussion about how you can't leave $0.89 on a $400 dinner bill. The restaurant eventually had inserts printed in German for the menus politely explaining about tipping, and I know for a fact that they told one repeat offender that he was no longer welcome in the establishment.

/biatch please, I recognize your wearing-black-socks-with-sandals ass from last week, and last year for that matter.
//service sucks in Germany due to lack of tipping. The Japanese are basically incapable of giving bad service though.
 
2012-06-27 01:06:00 PM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: etherknot: Walker: WTF is "MacDonalds"?

A MacDonalds restaurant. Never heard of them either but uh, apparently there over 200 of them in this state.

There's a Japanese burger chain called "MosBurger" whose logo is a big red "M". I have a feeling that alone would get them sued in the US.


I miss me some MosBurger. Very different/odd, but delicious.They would list the origin of every ingredient they were using that day, along with the name of the farmer, on a big blackboard. 'Today's tomatoes come from Mr. Yoshimura in Iwate Pref.'. Don't know if they did that everywhere or just my MosBurger.

/Fun Fact: the 'Mos' stands for 'Moon, Ocean, Sun', because they are massive Japanese hippies.
 
2012-06-27 01:13:04 PM  
My father worked at a McDonald's in Long Beach when he was 18 in the 1960s and he said all the black folks in the neighborhood would try to order grape soda and get annoyed that they didn't carry it. He tried to request it from corporate, but they wouldn't allow it.
 
2012-06-27 01:18:59 PM  
I have pizza, so I know how I'm dinnertimin' tonight.
 
2012-06-27 01:21:42 PM  

Easy Reader: Was there ever a time when "dinnertimin'" was an actual noun?


I guess you don't speak jive.
 
2012-06-27 01:30:52 PM  

kimmygibblershomework: skinink: Blacks don't tip? Neither does a table full of women who needs extra plates because they will split the appetizer between them, and who only want glasses of water. Cheapskates. Please, take you and your girlfriends to the packy and buy some wine you can take back to someone's apartment to drink. But don't take up one of my tables so you can eat cheap and tip cheap as well, and on top of it monopolize my time so I can't serve my other tables.

Perhaps less skin ink equals more tips? That and the daggers coming from your eyes when they sit down because you know they are going to order lemon water. Perhaps your host could sit them next to the kitchen door, as that seems to be the super awesome seat they try to stick my wife and I into constantly (I have an ugly face). It is sooo much fun to have to duck forward everytime a server comes by and listen to who did who in the walk-in. Takes me back 15 years lol. Also reminds me of why I don't work food service anymore and how unbelievably petty and juvenile that whole scene can be and why one has to pick thru your food before you eat it.

/make nice with the host(ess)=better tables


I always preferred using the bosses desk.
 
2012-06-27 02:07:24 PM  

BoothbyTCD: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: etherknot: Walker: WTF is "MacDonalds"?

A MacDonalds restaurant. Never heard of them either but uh, apparently there over 200 of them in this state.

There's a Japanese burger chain called "MosBurger" whose logo is a big red "M". I have a feeling that alone would get them sued in the US.

I miss me some MosBurger. Very different/odd, but delicious.They would list the origin of every ingredient they were using that day, along with the name of the farmer, on a big blackboard. 'Today's tomatoes come from Mr. Yoshimura in Iwate Pref.'. Don't know if they did that everywhere or just my MosBurger.

/Fun Fact: the 'Mos' stands for 'Moon, Ocean, Sun', because they are massive Japanese hippies.


People seem to like'em! Never had'em, myself.
 
2012-06-27 02:16:26 PM  

NewportBarGuy: You know who are the worst tippers on the planet? Germans. Seriously. Whether I was selling frozen lemonade as a kid or serving them drinks at a bar. Worst. Tippers. Ever. (On the rare occasion they actually tipped.)

It made watching the History Channel even more fun when it was the Hitler Channel because you got to watch them getting blown up over and over and over...

But, I digress... I think WacArnolds was much more offensive to white people because they made it appear as if we had no rhythm:

OK, maybe they have a point


I think the Germans are in a three-way tie with India and the Middle East for worst tippers
 
2012-06-27 02:18:24 PM  
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2012-06-27 02:29:14 PM  

dopeydwarf: [listfav.com image 590x332]


That's a good one, but I can actually remember seeing this one in the local paper:

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2012-06-27 03:37:53 PM  

Omahawg: jtown: I miss those styrofoam burger boxes.

visit a local land-fill with a shovel. dig down 17 years. you'll find some.


A couple of weeks ago, my boss asked me and a co-worker to clean up a corner of the yard that hadn't been cleaned up "in at least 10 years". As we dug through the filth and muck, we found a McDLT styrofoam container that looked as pristine as it did in 1988. I said "Holy sh*t, a McDLT container!". My 20-something co-worker said "WTF is a McDLT?".

/man I'm getting old
//and getting stuck with meddling kids
///CSB
 
2012-06-27 04:11:38 PM  
farm9.staticflickr.com

I wonder just how many Jive Turkeys can fit in one of those?

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2012-06-27 06:01:51 PM  

sithon: Is that a meme? That black people don't tip?


Well yes it is, but sadly....some might call it an actual tendency.

Of course, by the same token, neither do doctors, lawyers, women, Europeans, Chinese, Arabs, Indians, and certain other select groups. At least by reputation.

First time waiting on tables of any kind was in a 24-hour Steak & Egg Kitchen on New Year's Eve 1976 in a shady part of Durham, NC. From 11PM - 7AM. Not one. Damn. Tip.

On the other hand, I have occasionally received an extraordinarily good tip from a black couple. So it's definitely an individual thing.

/not the babe factor, either
/skinny white guy
 
2012-06-27 08:06:19 PM  

on the road: sithon: Is that a meme? That black people don't tip?

Well yes it is, but sadly....some might call it an actual tendency.

Of course, by the same token, neither do doctors, lawyers, women, Europeans, Chinese, Arabs, Indians, and certain other select groups. At least by reputation.

First time waiting on tables of any kind was in a 24-hour Steak & Egg Kitchen on New Year's Eve 1976 in a shady part of Durham, NC. From 11PM - 7AM. Not one. Damn. Tip.

On the other hand, I have occasionally received an extraordinarily good tip from a black couple. So it's definitely an individual thing.

/not the babe factor, either
/skinny white guy


Ok before the race cards get played, it can be said that Danes don't tip either -- it's cultural -- they aren't used to it since they live in a world of included service charges already in the price. They just pay the price.

The question is if it's a cultural tendency in the US black population, why is it?
 
2012-06-27 11:11:08 PM  
Well I would think that by the time society is down to being racist because an ad drops a few "g"s, and informs a family of a restaurant where there is no tipping, then I guess society is doing pretty damn well.

And I gather we are now in this non-racist heaven because schools taught people how to find racism where none existed.

And believe it or not you young whipper snappers, a lot of people in the 70s were actually a hell of a lot less racist and sexist than people are today.
 
2012-06-28 07:24:38 AM  

RoyBatty: And believe it or not you young whipper snappers, a lot of people in the 70s were actually a hell of a lot less racist and sexist than people are today.


I agree with you that these ads are not racist. But I think you recall a different 1970s than I do. Were you in the US?
 
2012-06-28 12:51:00 PM  

Babwa Wawa: RoyBatty: And believe it or not you young whipper snappers, a lot of people in the 70s were actually a hell of a lot less racist and sexist than people are today.

I agree with you that these ads are not racist. But I think you recall a different 1970s than I do. Were you in the US?


In the 70s, I was 10-20 years old.

I didn't say that no one was racist, nor did I even say a majority of people were not racist (but I suspect a majority were not racist.)

What I'm saying is we had the Freedom Riders, and the Star Trek Kiss, and the Civil Rights Act, and we had 1968, and 1969, and All in the Family, and many many other aspects of our culture that were absolutely not racist, or sexist, or anything-ist. We had feminism. The Equal Pay Act. We had Stonewall.

Right now, "the youngsters" at FARK and elsewhere write as if they were the first generation to ever not be racist, or sexist, or anything-ist. And actually when I read the news, and various blogs, I wonder what the hell happened. Sexism seems worse than before (Brogrammers), racism seems worse than before (a response to crime rates? rap? the depression?)

We've made enormous strides in the past 10 years for gay rights, but I'm not all that impressed with the progress on race, and no, the current FARK youngsters did not discover racism, or take the first steps against it, and near as I can tell all the important strides were taken in the 70s OR BEFORE, and mostly before.

The main thing to stop racism since the 70s were not actual steps by Congress or actual steps by the people, but merely the children of the 30s growing up beyond WWII to teach the children of the 60s to teach the children of the 90s.

All of which is to say these ads were not racist then or now, what we mainly have is ignorant kids, sure they are the generation that fought against racism, ignorant about what happened before them.

And that's not new either. That's probably how I was in the 70s and 80s and 90s and 00s about the generations before me.
 
2012-06-28 02:13:16 PM  

RoyBatty: Right now, "the youngsters" at FARK and elsewhere write as if they were the first generation to ever not be racist, or sexist, or anything-ist. And actually when I read the news, and various blogs, I wonder what the hell happened. Sexism seems worse than before (Brogrammers), racism seems worse than before (a response to crime rates? rap? the depression?)


I think racism has definitely improved. Most of the structural (legal) changes necessary for racial equality happened in the 50s and 60s. The 70s and 80s were definitely more about society catching up with the law. But I most certainly remember racial and ethnic jokes being told in the open with barely a look over the shoulder in the 70s. By the end of the 80s that was gone, remains pretty much gone. More real evidence is the general acceptance and banality interracial marriage across pretty much the entire US. Even into the 80s and early 90s it was not uncommon to encounter someone who'd say something about how they couldn't accept a family member marrying into another race.

There has been no backslide with regard to racism, IMHO. What I see now in the mainstream is more or less honest debate about the reasons for racial inequality.

Sexism is another, far more complicated story.
 
2012-06-28 02:21:38 PM  

Babwa Wawa: I think racism has definitely improved. Most of the structural (legal) changes necessary for racial equality happened in the 50s and 60s. The 70s and 80s were definitely more about society catching up with the law. But I most certainly remember racial and ethnic jokes being told in the open with barely a look over the shoulder in the 70s. By the end of the 80s that was gone, remains pretty much gone. More real evidence is the general acceptance and banality interracial marriage across pretty much the entire US. Even into the 80s and early 90s it was not uncommon to encounter someone who'd say something about how they couldn't accept a family member marrying into another race.There has been no backslide with regard to racism, IMHO. What I see now in the mainstream is more or less honest debate about the reasons for racial inequality.


You may be right, but again, that doesn't disagree with my main premise, that today's kiddies are not the racial injustice warriors they believe themselves to be and the 70s were not rife with racism AS evidence by this ad. Today's kiddies main fight against racism was accomplished by growing up with parents and schools born of the 60s and 70s.

And it's not clear to me that the 00s and 10s are demonstrably more free of racism than the 70s were if you are using things like this ad as a reference, or even FARK threads. I still see lots of racist comments in FARK threads that I would have been shocked to read in the 70s and still shocked 40 years later.
 
2012-06-28 02:35:02 PM  

RoyBatty: I still see lots of racist comments in FARK threads that I would have been shocked to read in the 70s and still shocked 40 years later.


Yeah, but hopefully most of those are simply asshole trolls, not real people...

Plus, there's the anonymity factor of the Internet, which wasn't really around (in current form) in the 70s... If it had been, I suspect you'd have seen the same sort of assholishness then, as well... Just the "Greater Internet farkwad Theory" at work...
 
2012-06-28 02:44:42 PM  

RobSeace: RoyBatty: I still see lots of racist comments in FARK threads that I would have been shocked to read in the 70s and still shocked 40 years later.

Yeah, but hopefully most of those are simply asshole trolls, not real people...

Plus, there's the anonymity factor of the Internet, which wasn't really around (in current form) in the 70s... If it had been, I suspect you'd have seen the same sort of assholishness then, as well... Just the "Greater Internet farkwad Theory" at work...


True. Although I also take from these remarks and think others should as well that racism/sexism/...ism still exists it's often just hidden.
 
2012-06-28 02:44:53 PM  

RoyBatty: You may be right, but again, that doesn't disagree with my main premise, that today's kiddies are not the racial injustice warriors they believe themselves to be and the 70s were not rife with racism AS evidence by this ad. Today's kiddies main fight against racism was accomplished by growing up with parents and schools born of the 60s and 70s.


Oh we definitely agree on that. That ad was simply targeted marketing, just like this.

RoyBatty: And it's not clear to me that the 00s and 10s are demonstrably more free of racism than the 70s were if you are using things like this ad as a reference, or even FARK threads.


In terms of real opportunity for black folks, the improvements are crystal clear. Even in internet threads the jackasses are roundly rejected except on the echo chambers.
 
2012-06-28 02:50:25 PM  

Babwa Wawa: In terms of real opportunity for black folks, the improvements are crystal clear.


I agree. And on many many fronts I see lots of progress.

Still I am really disappointed with how fractured society still seems to be on these issues. (And then toss in prison rates in the 70s compared to today....)
 
2012-06-28 10:11:51 PM  
1) approach thread quietly.
2) position troll carefully in throwing hand.
3) pull pin, and huck.


Gays are smarter than black people.
 
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