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2012-06-27 08:59:31 AM

justtray: Anyway I think we're done here. You've proven yourself to be a child who does not understand basic movie critique, who cannot reconcile the fact that he liked a movie with the fact that it was bad writing, who cannot even identify bad writing even when told explicitly. There is literally no reason to continue conversation with a blatant white knighting nerd rager. You'll have to take solace knowing you're superior to everyone and that only you were smart enough to make bold leaps in logic not supported by the film. Bravo


You sound as if you are already trying to defend a movie that does not exist. You said you liked Prometheus. Why? I think that you are saying you liked it to cover for some kind of major plot hole in your thought process while attempting to dampen your hatred for people who don't see things the way you do.

You are pretending that every intellectually critical movie genius is already watching the incredible movies you are failing to compare this one to. -Suggesting that a movie exists in reality that do not have issues with the way they're written. Your candidness suggests that you are personally aware or have already written a flawless script, storyline, and have produced/directed the most perfect film imaginable.

Do you like poems?

You should stay away from science fiction.
 
2012-06-27 09:43:24 AM

fisker: justtray: Anyway I think we're done here. You've proven yourself to be a child who does not understand basic movie critique, who cannot reconcile the fact that he liked a movie with the fact that it was bad writing, who cannot even identify bad writing even when told explicitly. There is literally no reason to continue conversation with a blatant white knighting nerd rager. You'll have to take solace knowing you're superior to everyone and that only you were smart enough to make bold leaps in logic not supported by the film. Bravo

You sound as if you are already trying to defend a movie that does not exist. You said you liked Prometheus. Why? I think that you are saying you liked it to cover for some kind of major plot hole in your thought process while attempting to dampen your hatred for people who don't see things the way you do.

You are pretending that every intellectually critical movie genius is already watching the incredible movies you are failing to compare this one to. -Suggesting that a movie exists in reality that do not have issues with the way they're written. Your candidness suggests that you are personally aware or have already written a flawless script, storyline, and have produced/directed the most perfect film imaginable.

Do you like poems?

You should stay away from science fiction.


Cool story, bro. I liked it because it was visually appealing, and I like science fiction. Given that, it was horribly written, and the more you think about it in retrospect, the more that becomes apparent.

The fact of the matter is, very few people in America have any idea how to critque a film. No one is being unfair about the criticisms. There are a LOT of them. Nearly every single scene. That's why this movie gets so much more flak than others, that contain only minor plot contrivances. (I think thats the right word)

The concept that you're implying, which has been implied multiple times in this thread, is that if something is science fiction, it doesn't have to make sense. This is a false belief. Take Inception for example. You can suspend disbelief in that movie and still have it make sense because they use a few lines of dialogue here and there to explain how the dreamworld works within the canon of the movie. They explain the sedation and dream sharing, albeit not in detail. Contrasting that to Prometheus, you get no dialogue to explain anything, even when just a few words would suffice. That is bad, lazy writing. I am not attempting to make any judgement on liking or disliking the movie. Simply pointing out that it was not well written, and that offends a lot of stupid people who were incapable of that realization.
 
2012-06-27 10:02:25 AM
Make criticism about movie, get replies that are either insults are saying that 'you just don't get it', repeat through thread.

More entertaining than the movie at least.
 
2012-06-27 10:20:48 AM
Lumbar Puncture: Make criticism about movie, get replies that are either insults are saying that 'you just don't get it', repeat through thread.

More entertaining than the movie at least.


Yup, Prometheus spawning a 500 comment thread on FARK, 3 weeks after release? Well, they did something right.

The unhinged nerd rage just makes people curious. So more going to the movie, which is good IMO. I was surprised it pulled 1.3 million yesterday, would have though it would have been below 1 by now.
 
2012-06-27 10:21:33 AM

justtray: Contrasting that to Prometheus, you get no dialogue to explain anything, but you do get many visual cues tht explain a lot if you're paying attention even when just a few words would suffice. That is bad, lazy writing an example of how movies can use the visual aspect of the medium to augment the dialog, offering "explanations" for things through purely visual means. It does require some mental effort from the audience, but it can make for a more rich movie experience. I like to call it "lazy, bad writing" because my English Lit professor in college said my writing was "condecending" and contained "too much exposition", but he was just a pompus jerk and wouldn't know good writing if it bit him on the ass.


FTFY

If anything in this movie didn't make sense to you, then you weren't paying attention. You should probably stick with Michael Bay films where every detail of the "plot" is explained at least once by one of the characters.
 
2012-06-27 10:55:21 AM
Seen it twice.....will buy the blue ray and any book of the artwork. Loved it

I may be dumb as a big bag of dumb, but I know what I like.
 
2012-06-27 11:12:37 AM
Anyone mention that we might be a helluva successful bioweapon manufactured by them?

Now that weapon, a single spore or cell so to speak in the form of Shaw is headed to the possible homeworld of the Engineers.......


/such a long thread
 
2012-06-27 12:10:22 PM

justtray: fisker: justtray: Anyway I think we're done here. You've proven yourself to be a child who does not understand basic movie critique, who cannot reconcile the fact that he liked a movie with the fact that it was bad writing, who cannot even identify bad writing even when told explicitly. There is literally no reason to continue conversation with a blatant white knighting nerd rager. You'll have to take solace knowing you're superior to everyone and that only you were smart enough to make bold leaps in logic not supported by the film. Bravo

You sound as if you are already trying to defend a movie that does not exist. You said you liked Prometheus. Why? I think that you are saying you liked it to cover for some kind of major plot hole in your thought process while attempting to dampen your hatred for people who don't see things the way you do.

You are pretending that every intellectually critical movie genius is already watching the incredible movies you are failing to compare this one to. -Suggesting that a movie exists in reality that do not have issues with the way they're written. Your candidness suggests that you are personally aware or have already written a flawless script, storyline, and have produced/directed the most perfect film imaginable.

Do you like poems?

You should stay away from science fiction.

Cool story, bro. I liked it because it was visually appealing, and I like science fiction. Given that, it was horribly written, and the more you think about it in retrospect, the more that becomes apparent.

The fact of the matter is, very few people in America have any idea how to critque a film. No one is being unfair about the criticisms. There are a LOT of them. Nearly every single scene. That's why this movie gets so much more flak than others, that contain only minor plot contrivances. (I think thats the right word)

The concept that you're implying, which has been implied multiple times in this thread, is that if something is science fiction, it doe ...


Gee, while I thought Prometheus had a number of problems, I didn't think it was written horribly. Badly in parts, yes. Piranha 2010, now that's a poorly written movie.
 
2012-06-27 12:11:11 PM

TyrantII: Yup, Prometheus spawning a 500 comment thread on FARK, 3 weeks after release? Well, they did something right.


It'll be interesting to see what the numbers of the sequel will be, anyone who doesn't think there will be a sequel are kidding themselves, and if angry people will actually not bother to see the sequel or if they will despite their anger at the first.
 
2012-06-27 12:15:44 PM
Prometheus was GREAT!!!

/can wait for the DVD
 
2012-06-27 01:09:37 PM

Lumbar Puncture: TyrantII: Yup, Prometheus spawning a 500 comment thread on FARK, 3 weeks after release? Well, they did something right.

It'll be interesting to see what the numbers of the sequel will be, anyone who doesn't think there will be a sequel are kidding themselves, and if angry people will actually not bother to see the sequel or if they will despite their anger at the first.


the sequals are going to have an effect on my opinion of this movie.

If they flesh out the technology and answer some fo the questions, great, if they pull a lost and just start making more questions, fark them. I woudl rather tehy leave it unanswered.
 
2012-06-27 01:19:21 PM
I usually don't care about plot holes, but this movie seemed particularly lazy about them, as well as dumb things. Why did Noomi rappel out of the ship with severed David, with her injuries, when she walked into it? Just pointless.
 
2012-06-27 01:25:56 PM

liam76: Lumbar Puncture: TyrantII: Yup, Prometheus spawning a 500 comment thread on FARK, 3 weeks after release? Well, they did something right.

It'll be interesting to see what the numbers of the sequel will be, anyone who doesn't think there will be a sequel are kidding themselves, and if angry people will actually not bother to see the sequel or if they will despite their anger at the first.

the sequals are going to have an effect on my opinion of this movie.

If they flesh out the technology and answer some fo the questions, great, if they pull a lost and just start making more questions, fark them. I woudl rather tehy leave it unanswered.


The directors cut of this is going to have the biggest effect on my opinion of the movie. I'm reasonably sure there's scenes that were filled that address the majority of complaints with the flick.
 
2012-06-27 01:30:25 PM

Lumbar Puncture: It'll be interesting to see what the numbers of the sequel will be, anyone who doesn't think there will be a sequel are kidding themselves, and if angry people will actually not bother to see the sequel or if they will despite their anger at the first.


Who's angry? I had a good time at the movie, but it was stupid. Not as dumb as Transformers 2 or Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest, but far sillier than Avatar. Not a particularly good movie. The people hurling insults and childish arguments (i.e. appearing to be angry) seemed to think the movie was actually really good. To me, as a setup for the whole Alien universe, it was... OK. As a stand-alone piece, it's worse.

If there's a sequel, I'll probably catch it on DVD (or what have you). If Lindelof writes the screenplay, I'll probably wait until it comes on HBO.
 
2012-06-27 01:35:13 PM

Lumbar Puncture: Make criticism about movie, get replies that are either insults are saying that 'you just don't get it', repeat through thread.

More entertaining than the movie at least.


i172.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-27 03:21:55 PM

Funbags: YoTengoId: apparently the effects are completely controllable and predictable, seeing how they seeded life on earth which ended up producing a species that is 100% identical to the engineers. that's either an astronomically unlikely happy accident or they did it on purpose, either way it's shiatty writing.

Actually, if the goo was controllable and predictable, the Engineers wouldn't have lost containment on LV-223. But you already know this.

Not fully understanding how the goo works /= the goo does only what the Engineers want and nothing ever goes wrong. In fact, it adds more credence to the fallibility of the Engineers, who, ironically, form the foundation of Earth's worship of infallible beings.

And true to form, we go on to create nuclear power plants that have meltdowns, create dams that are tragically insufficient, create forms of government that leave millions starving and impoverished. And all the while, we have the gift of fire...


dammit funbags!

just because we have nuclear meltdowns doesn't mean we don't know how nuclear physics work. or dams. or how starvations works. these things happen because people are incompetent assholes. since the engineers are 100% grade-A people...

Lumbar Puncture: Make criticism about movie, get replies that are either insults are saying that 'you just don't get it', repeat through thread.

More entertaining than the movie at least.


THIS IS AS HELL
 
2012-06-27 03:23:52 PM

vpb: Wow, this is better than a Zimmerman/Martin post for deep.
Anyway, if Scott was such a Moron I suspect he might not be able to get millions in funding to make these films. $120 million according to Wikipeda. But what do I know?


MONEY=SMART got it

sure ridley scott's probably a smart guy but that's some loser logic right there
 
2012-06-27 03:30:29 PM

Ashelth: jimw: One thing about this move is that it did equal opportunity plagiarism from quit a few other movies:
-Messages from aliens - Star Trek, Contact, Smallville
-Planetary projections - Star Trek, This Island Earth
- David - 2001 - Star Trek (Data)
- The Captain - Star Wars
- Mappers - Starship Andromeda, Star Trek (probes)
- Holographic Map - Avatar
- Computer Screens - Avatar
- Landing of the Ship - Avatar
- Cryostatis - Avatar, 2001
- Rich old man - Contact
- Musical Buttons - Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind
- Underground Ship - Witch Mountain, This Island Earth
- Bugs in people - Star Trek, X-Files

I could go on but whats the point. You get the idea.

You sound like you need to read more. Even I, who mainly reads shiatty military scifi outside of work related stuff, recognizes most of those as ideas originated in a wide range of scifi novels/short stories many decades before their use in cinema.


yeah but it just goes to show the law of diminished returns here. we're dealing with a 4th or 5th generation rip-off by that douche that wrote lost.

stealing ideas is ok if you have the wit to do something great with them, being a hack who has no clue what to do with these ideas is just sad.
 
2012-06-27 03:34:32 PM

YoTengoId: Ashelth: jimw: One thing about this move is that it did equal opportunity plagiarism from quit a few other movies:
-Messages from aliens - Star Trek, Contact, Smallville
-Planetary projections - Star Trek, This Island Earth
- David - 2001 - Star Trek (Data)
- The Captain - Star Wars
- Mappers - Starship Andromeda, Star Trek (probes)
- Holographic Map - Avatar
- Computer Screens - Avatar
- Landing of the Ship - Avatar
- Cryostatis - Avatar, 2001
- Rich old man - Contact
- Musical Buttons - Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind
- Underground Ship - Witch Mountain, This Island Earth
- Bugs in people - Star Trek, X-Files

I could go on but whats the point. You get the idea.

You sound like you need to read more. Even I, who mainly reads shiatty military scifi outside of work related stuff, recognizes most of those as ideas originated in a wide range of scifi novels/short stories many decades before their use in cinema.

yeah but it just goes to show the law of diminished returns here. we're dealing with a 4th or 5th generation rip-off by that douche that wrote lost.

stealing ideas is ok if you have the wit to do something great with them, being a hack who has no clue what to do with these ideas is just sad.


At this point it's pretty clear that as far as stolen cinematic ideas goes, most everything that attempts to make you think was stolen from Rod Serling
 
2012-06-27 05:02:10 PM

theorellior: fozziewazzi: Has anyone ever explained how the first 'Alien' and the newborn one in Prometheus grew so massive so quickly without apparently consuming anything.

The retcon for "Alien" is that the chest-burster was eating food from the ship's stores when it couldn't get humans. Think acid-blooded space-rat.


There's a scene in the novelisation by Alan Dean Foster where they discover the chestburster has been gorging itself on their food supplies.
 
2012-06-27 05:04:20 PM

YoTengoId: TyrantII: YoTengoId: TyrantII: fozziewazzi: TyrantII: fozziewazzi: Has anyone ever explained how the first 'Alien' and the newborn one in Prometheus grew so massive so quickly without apparently consuming anything.

How do we know it didn't consume anything?

Why didn't the crew to Prometheus die? After all, i never saw them have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich!

The crew also didn't increase their mass 50x in the space of a day.

So you hated ALIEN, ALIENS, A3?

R get's a pass since they were already grown.

the first alien had the full run of the nostromo, eating their supplies.

the aliens in aliens had the full run of the colony, eating their supplies.

the alien in A3 had the full run of the prison, eating their supplies.

the giant facehugger was trapped in a room with no food for a matter of hours and increased in mass by at least 50x.

one of these is not like the others.

Again, how do you know it eats? Or what it eats? All we know is it needs flesh to procreate. We've never seen an alien "eat".

They have Acid blood and carbon metallic exo-skeletons, for all we know they digest ore and drink CO2. We simply no nothing of their metabolism from anything in any one of the movies. JR. could have easily ate a hole in the floor and consumed some titanium. You're making an uneducated assumption, which makes it dubious at best. If anything it's odd that we've never seen one eating humans. Only killed them and used them as dead and live nests.


i agree that it is weird we never see them eating. it's reasonable to assume that they consumed something that made them grow in the first 3 films, it's not explicitly stated or anything, but it doesn't stretch the limits of the imagination that they ate something. of course they could be eating titanium or whatever, but they could be demons from hell or have little men living inside them pumping them up with balloons until they get bigger or the hand of god could've stretched them out when they were off-screen o ...


There's a scene in Alien 3 where the creature is seen apparently eating one of the convicts, or at least ripping him up with its teeth.
 
2012-06-27 05:22:00 PM

bhcompy: Rod Serling


or wells or asimov or clarke or heinlein or dick or bradbury or etc etc etc rod serling didn't create sci fi mixed with existential dread either

Suede head: YoTengoId: TyrantII: YoTengoId: TyrantII: fozziewazzi: TyrantII: fozziewazzi: Has anyone ever explained how the first 'Alien' and the newborn one in Prometheus grew so massive so quickly without apparently consuming anything.

How do we know it didn't consume anything?

Why didn't the crew to Prometheus die? After all, i never saw them have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich!

The crew also didn't increase their mass 50x in the space of a day.

So you hated ALIEN, ALIENS, A3?

R get's a pass since they were already grown.

the first alien had the full run of the nostromo, eating their supplies.

the aliens in aliens had the full run of the colony, eating their supplies.

the alien in A3 had the full run of the prison, eating their supplies.

the giant facehugger was trapped in a room with no food for a matter of hours and increased in mass by at least 50x.

one of these is not like the others.

Again, how do you know it eats? Or what it eats? All we know is it needs flesh to procreate. We've never seen an alien "eat".

They have Acid blood and carbon metallic exo-skeletons, for all we know they digest ore and drink CO2. We simply no nothing of their metabolism from anything in any one of the movies. JR. could have easily ate a hole in the floor and consumed some titanium. You're making an uneducated assumption, which makes it dubious at best. If anything it's odd that we've never seen one eating humans. Only killed them and used them as dead and live nests.


i agree that it is weird we never see them eating. it's reasonable to assume that they consumed something that made them grow in the first 3 films, it's not explicitly stated or anything, but it doesn't stretch the limits of the imagination that they ate something. of course they could be eating titanium or whatever, but they could be demons from hell or have little men living inside them pumping them up with balloons until they get bigger or the hand of god could've stretched them out when they were o ...


BOOM vindicated
 
2012-06-27 05:23:36 PM

tallguywithglasseson: The people hurling insults and childish arguments (i.e. appearing to be angry) seemed to think the movie was actually really good.


Yeah, but the people continuing to try and carry out a conversation with those folks are either motivated by anger, or have the patience of a saint. I can't think of a reason to run into a brick wall over and over again otherwise.

Personally, I like to imagine the crew responded to a craigslist ad that read: WORK FROM SPACE - NO EXPERIENCE NEEDED! and that the rest of the money was spent on hookers and blow.
 
2012-06-27 05:43:07 PM

TyrantII: I assumed their clocks were measuring earth time. It brings up a curious question though about the kind of people that would volunteer for interstellar missions. Time dilation resulting from FTL speed combined with being in stasis much of the time means by the time you get back to earth everyone you knew would be long dead. Who volunteers for this?

Perhaps I've missed something from the world of physics but wouldn't FTL be pretty explicitly post-relativistic (that is, relativity as currently understood forbids FTL travel); as such why would time dilation (a consequence of relativity) still apply? If we're getting around one aspect of relativity is it really much of a stretch to get beyond a second one as well?

Which is why stasis in the new movie is perplexing. Unless it's just standard to plan missions for relativistic travel needs, so they still need to limit up time to conserve supplies?


Another question: do they have FTL communications in the Aliens universe? I seem to recall in Prometheus they mention trying to contact Earth and failing.
 
2012-06-27 05:49:11 PM

fozziewazzi: Has anyone ever explained how the first 'Alien' and the newborn one in Prometheus grew so massive so quickly without apparently consuming anything.


It ate the afterbirth.
 
2012-06-27 06:26:52 PM

theorellior: telephone: Remember that scene in "Alien" when Harry Dean Stanton spent five minutes looking for a cat by himself, even though there was a killer alien on the loose?

The funny thing is, that's just about the only scene in "Alien" where I roll my eyes at the decisions made. They're in a spaceship carrying ore, and it's raining? Sure, it's great for atmosphere, but it just makes no sense.

I'm sure someone will give me a reason for it, though.


Condensation and ice-melt from the vast landing leg which has been in sub-zero arctic conditions and is now in warm, humid conditions.
 
2012-06-27 06:45:24 PM
YoTengoId: BOOM vindicated

Nah, Book ain't canon.

fusillade762: TyrantII: I assumed their clocks were measuring earth time. It brings up a curious question though about the kind of people that would volunteer for interstellar missions. Time dilation resulting from FTL speed combined with being in stasis much of the time means by the time you get back to earth everyone you knew would be long dead. Who volunteers for this?

Perhaps I've missed something from the world of physics but wouldn't FTL be pretty explicitly post-relativistic (that is, relativity as currently understood forbids FTL travel); as such why would time dilation (a consequence of relativity) still apply? If we're getting around one aspect of relativity is it really much of a stretch to get beyond a second one as well?

Which is why stasis in the new movie is perplexing. Unless it's just standard to plan missions for relativistic travel needs, so they still need to limit up time to conserve supplies?

Another question: do they have FTL communications in the Aliens universe? I seem to recall in Prometheus they mention trying to contact Earth and failing.


Yeah, think I remember hearing that too. Were they talking about signals to the moon like they were doing later, thou?
 
2012-06-27 06:49:19 PM

TyrantII: YoTengoId: BOOM vindicated

Nah, Book ain't canon.

fusillade762: TyrantII: I assumed their clocks were measuring earth time. It brings up a curious question though about the kind of people that would volunteer for interstellar missions. Time dilation resulting from FTL speed combined with being in stasis much of the time means by the time you get back to earth everyone you knew would be long dead. Who volunteers for this?

Perhaps I've missed something from the world of physics but wouldn't FTL be pretty explicitly post-relativistic (that is, relativity as currently understood forbids FTL travel); as such why would time dilation (a consequence of relativity) still apply? If we're getting around one aspect of relativity is it really much of a stretch to get beyond a second one as well?

Which is why stasis in the new movie is perplexing. Unless it's just standard to plan missions for relativistic travel needs, so they still need to limit up time to conserve supplies?

Another question: do they have FTL communications in the Aliens universe? I seem to recall in Prometheus they mention trying to contact Earth and failing.

Yeah, think I remember hearing that too. Were they talking about signals to the moon like they were doing later, thou?


"There's a scene in Alien 3 where the creature is seen apparently eating one of the convicts, or at least ripping him up with its teeth."

this is what i was referring to. chompin on the boy like a dog.
 
2012-06-27 08:16:20 PM
Maybe the surgically removed facehugger in prometheus was designed to combat beings larger then the engineers......
 
2012-06-27 09:05:29 PM

fusillade762: TyrantII: I assumed their clocks were measuring earth time. It brings up a curious question though about the kind of people that would volunteer for interstellar missions. Time dilation resulting from FTL speed combined with being in stasis much of the time means by the time you get back to earth everyone you knew would be long dead. Who volunteers for this?

Perhaps I've missed something from the world of physics but wouldn't FTL be pretty explicitly post-relativistic (that is, relativity as currently understood forbids FTL travel); as such why would time dilation (a consequence of relativity) still apply? If we're getting around one aspect of relativity is it really much of a stretch to get beyond a second one as well?

Which is why stasis in the new movie is perplexing. Unless it's just standard to plan missions for relativistic travel needs, so they still need to limit up time to conserve supplies?

Another question: do they have FTL communications in the Aliens universe? I seem to recall in Prometheus they mention trying to contact Earth and failing.


They had to have had them in Aliens. None of that movie would have worked without faster than light travel and communication.
 
2012-06-27 11:43:04 PM
I just came in here to say that I, too, hate Prometheus. It sucks. It sucks so bad, that as soon as I saw a new Prometheus thread on Fark, I had to click on the comments section to voice my passionate disdain and hatred of this movie. This movie sucks so bad that I don't even want to watch movies that I like anymore - I just want to think about how much this movie sucks, and then tell everyone else about it. On the internet.
 
2012-06-27 11:52:19 PM

OOBE Juan Kenobi: I just came in here to say that I, too, hate Prometheus. It sucks. It sucks so bad, that as soon as I saw a new Prometheus thread on Fark, I had to click on the comments section to voice my passionate disdain and hatred of this movie. This movie sucks so bad that I don't even want to watch movies that I like anymore - I just want to think about how much this movie sucks, and then tell everyone else about it. On the internet.


Truly, you are an inspiration to us all. Keep up the good work.
 
2012-06-28 12:00:27 AM

Teufelaffe: OOBE Juan Kenobi: I just came in here to say that I, too, hate Prometheus. It sucks. It sucks so bad, that as soon as I saw a new Prometheus thread on Fark, I had to click on the comments section to voice my passionate disdain and hatred of this movie. This movie sucks so bad that I don't even want to watch movies that I like anymore - I just want to think about how much this movie sucks, and then tell everyone else about it. On the internet.

Truly, you are an inspiration to us all. Keep up the good work.


Thank you. I fully expect my comrades here on Fark to push on if they see any future threads on Prometheus. Keep the fight going. People must never forget how much Prometheus sucks. We must remain brothers in arms in times like these, my friend.
 
2012-06-28 12:17:18 AM

OOBE Juan Kenobi: I just came in here to say that I, too, hate Prometheus. It sucks. It sucks so bad, that as soon as I saw a new Prometheus thread on Fark, I had to click on the comments section to voice my passionate disdain and hatred of this movie. This movie sucks so bad that I don't even want to watch movies that I like anymore - I just want to think about how much this movie sucks, and then tell everyone else about it. On the internet.


As far as I'm concerned, it isn't an issue of how Prometheus sucks; it's an issue of how I, and many other people who have been longtime fans of H.R. Giger's nightmarish creation, wanted to see something very special, and were let down when it only turned out to be better than average.
 
2012-06-28 01:23:29 AM

Repo Man: OOBE Juan Kenobi: I just came in here to say that I, too, hate Prometheus. It sucks. It sucks so bad, that as soon as I saw a new Prometheus thread on Fark, I had to click on the comments section to voice my passionate disdain and hatred of this movie. This movie sucks so bad that I don't even want to watch movies that I like anymore - I just want to think about how much this movie sucks, and then tell everyone else about it. On the internet.

As far as I'm concerned, it isn't an issue of how Prometheus sucks; it's an issue of how I, and many other people who have been longtime fans of H.R. Giger's nightmarish creation, wanted to see something very special, and were let down when it only turned out to be better than average.


You were let down because it sucks. You don't have to go into specifics with me bro - I'm with you 100%. I, as well as most of the rest of us here on Fark have been extremely let down by this movie. I had this imagining of what the film was going to be like, and then Ridley Scott did something completely different when I saw it in the theater. IN 3D farking IMAX, biatches. I thought Robin Hood was a turd. Try turds in 3D.
 
2012-06-28 01:59:37 AM

fozziewazzi: State_College_Arsonist: It was an amusing movie, but there were more than a few glaring plot holes. Hell, the fact that the constellation of stars recorded across all those civilizations didn't change over 30,000 years is flat out wrong, and that's the first few minutes. Then there's the complete lack of concern for biological contamination, the short duration of the trip through space...

I still enjoyed the movie.

I was wondering about the flight duration too. The nearest star is about 4 light years away, but it only took Prometheus 2 years/4months to get to where they were going?


Yeah, I guess that is relativistically confusing isn't it ;)
 
2012-06-28 02:02:22 AM

TyrantII: YoungLochinvar: fozziewazzi: Rent Party: fozziewazzi:
We can assume the Prometheus went somewhere much further than Proxima Centauri. If they got there in less than 3 years they must have been traveling many many times the speed of light.

Three years ship time, though, would get you much farther than three years from Earth's frame of reference. Time would go slower on the ship, so while if they were going 50 light years, it may only take 3 years on the ship, but 50+ from Earth.

Might be why they were making the big money, too.

I assumed their clocks were measuring earth time. It brings up a curious question though about the kind of people that would volunteer for interstellar missions. Time dilation resulting from FTL speed combined with being in stasis much of the time means by the time you get back to earth everyone you knew would be long dead. Who volunteers for this?

Perhaps I've missed something from the world of physics but wouldn't FTL be pretty explicitly post-relativistic (that is, relativity as currently understood forbids FTL travel); as such why would time dilation (a consequence of relativity) still apply? If we're getting around one aspect of relativity is it really much of a stretch to get beyond a second one as well?

Which is why stasis in the new movie is perplexing. Unless it's just standard to plan missions for relativistic travel needs, so they still need to limit up time to conserve supplies?


From their relativistic frame of reference the trip took a little over two years, so yeah they had to conserve supplies.
 
2012-06-28 02:19:15 AM

fozziewazzi: Has anyone ever explained how the first 'Alien' and the newborn one in Prometheus grew so massive so quickly without apparently consuming anything.


The chestburster matures to an adult phase within a few hours, shedding its skin and replacing its cells with polarized silicon.
 
2012-06-28 04:57:47 AM
Dont think anyone has brought this up about the engineer and david convo. So if the engineers gave us life by way of sacrificing one of their own, isn't a little reasonable that he would be pissed if we showed up and asked for even more?
We've made the advances to get to the people who gave us life to begin with, and all we care to ask is "Hey, can you give me more than what you've already given? I mean, we came all this way..."
Seems like a dick move on our part.
 
2012-06-28 04:27:15 PM

meat0918: I remember figuring out the "secret" of the Sixth Sense before it was even released.


"People will spend good money on any old shiat"?
 
2012-06-28 10:09:55 PM
Prometheus was a masterpiece, there, I said it.

Wonder whats up with the viral for SDCC? Or 10.11.12 being the date of NYCC?
 
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