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(CNN)   Soledad O'Brien is just asking questions about Mitt Romney's position on the recent Supreme Court immigration law decision; finds it's like nailing Jell-O to a wall   (cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com) divider line 121
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vpb [TotalFark]
2012-06-26 10:08:25 AM
His position is a quantum superposition.


It must be difficult appealing to minorities when racist hillbillies are your base.
 
2012-06-26 10:14:31 AM
"...and I think a rational person would agree with me..."

I think I found the problem.
 
2012-06-26 10:25:09 AM
Good.

Far be it from me to believe that the press will start doing its job anytime soon, but they can't just let Romney and his representatives follow through on their strategy to take no position on absolutely anything until November.

It's getting tiresome watching them blatantly dodge answering a direct question and get away with it. Start nailing these farkers down for chrissake.
 
2012-06-26 10:37:56 AM

gilgigamesh: Good.

Far be it from me to believe that the press will start doing its job anytime soon, but they can't just let Romney and his representatives follow through on their strategy to take no position on absolutely anything until November.

It's getting tiresome watching them blatantly dodge answering a direct question and get away with it. Start nailing these farkers down for chrissake.


I guarantee that he's going to adopt Palin's debate strategy. Take every question and direct it toward a preplanned, scripted answer. And his supporters will never realize he didn't answer a farking a thing and crown him the winner. Obama's talent for thinking on his feet will mean nothing in that scenario. Which is depressing.
 
2012-06-26 10:39:26 AM

Diogenes: gilgigamesh: Good.

Far be it from me to believe that the press will start doing its job anytime soon, but they can't just let Romney and his representatives follow through on their strategy to take no position on absolutely anything until November.

It's getting tiresome watching them blatantly dodge answering a direct question and get away with it. Start nailing these farkers down for chrissake.

I guarantee that he's going to adopt Palin's debate strategy. Take every question and direct it toward a preplanned, scripted answer. And his supporters will never realize he didn't answer a farking a thing and crown him the winner. Obama's talent for thinking on his feet will mean nothing in that scenario. Which is depressing.


Then if he gets elected and goes full retard thanks to the influence of the tea party in Congress, his supporters will say "That's just what he promised on the campaign trail" without realizing he didn't actually advocate anything.
 
2012-06-26 10:42:43 AM
Gutierrez, "As I mentioned, the Governor [Romney] supports the right of border states and the country at large to protect its border, to protect its integrity. It's not an anti-immigration issue...."

run run away!
 
2012-06-26 10:43:30 AM
CNN is pretty useless, but they're welcome to try and prove me wrong.
 
2012-06-26 10:44:28 AM
Freeze it, then nail it.
 
2012-06-26 10:44:43 AM

Alphax: CNN is pretty useless, but they're welcome to try and prove me wrong.


Who the fark cares about you and your weak opinion? Get over your bad self.
 
2012-06-26 10:44:49 AM
My grandfather didn't come all the way here from the Ukraine to share the country with a bunch of immigrants.
 
2012-06-26 10:46:12 AM

bwilson27: Alphax: CNN is pretty useless, but they're welcome to try and prove me wrong.

Who the fark cares about you and your weak opinion? Get over your bad self.


Let me guess, you work for CNN?
 
2012-06-26 10:46:53 AM
It's such a smart move by the Obama camp. Just take stands on issues. Doesn't even really matter what. The media and Romney will take care of the rest for you.

I can't wait until the general election debates. Romney's going to look like Max Headroom up there.
 
2012-06-26 10:49:01 AM
I'd nail her Jell-o, if you know what I mean.
por-img.cimcontent.net
 
2012-06-26 10:49:01 AM
Border states states' rights.
 
2012-06-26 10:49:50 AM
This is par for the course for Romney and his merry band of shameless Plutocrats...

Two weeks from now he claim he was calling for those parts of the law to be struck down from the beginning.
 
2012-06-26 10:50:43 AM
So he supports the rights of states on immigration? So he has no problem with "sanctuary" illegal immigration laws then?

Why can't anyone ask a follow up like this?
 
2012-06-26 10:50:47 AM

Diogenes: gilgigamesh: Good.

Far be it from me to believe that the press will start doing its job anytime soon, but they can't just let Romney and his representatives follow through on their strategy to take no position on absolutely anything until November.

It's getting tiresome watching them blatantly dodge answering a direct question and get away with it. Start nailing these farkers down for chrissake.

I guarantee that he's going to adopt Palin's debate strategy. Take every question and direct it toward a preplanned, scripted answer. And his supporters will never realize he didn't answer a farking a thing and crown him the winner. Obama's talent for thinking on his feet will mean nothing in that scenario. Which is depressing.


I think it pretty much plays to what people believe. I think someone posted a link to results from a fairly long political survey yesterday and people seem to have great ideas for how to fix the country's problems when a problem is described in theoretical terms but have trouble when you start talking about specifics.

For example the main question highlighted was about how to balance the budget and nobody wanted to raise taxes, cut defense spending, social security or medicare. The problem is that when you look at long-term CBO proposals those are the big hitters in terms of revenue and spending. As long as you can shift the focus to Obama's $10/month DVR at Camp David you don't have to face real issues.

This is the problem I have when people talk about running government more like a business. If a CEO started talking about balancing the company's finances by buying cheaper office supplies while ignoring 70% of the company's spending, he'd get thrown out at the next shareholder's meeting. If the president does that he gets re-elected. The reason government can't run like a business is because of the very people who complain that it doesn't.
 
2012-06-26 10:50:51 AM

jayhawk88: It's such a smart move by the Obama camp.


I wonder what the next common sense move Obama will goad Romney into opposing/flip flopping/obfuscating?
 
2012-06-26 10:52:31 AM

Alphax: bwilson27: Alphax: CNN is pretty useless, but they're welcome to try and prove me wrong.

Who the fark cares about you and your weak opinion? Get over your bad self.

Let me guess, you work for CNN?


What difference does it make here? O'Brien was doing her job well here.
 
2012-06-26 10:52:54 AM

balki1867: This is the problem I have when people talk about running government more like a business. If a CEO started talking about balancing the company's finances by buying cheaper office supplies while ignoring 70% of the company's spending, he'd get thrown out at the next shareholder's meeting. If the president does that he gets re-elected. The reason government can't run like a business is because of the very people who complain that it doesn't.



CEO Madagascar, the copy machine broke.

Shut

Down

Everything
 
2012-06-26 10:52:57 AM

DarnoKonrad: jayhawk88: It's such a smart move by the Obama camp.

I wonder what the next common sense move Obama will goad Romney into opposing/flip flopping/obfuscating?


Minor decriminalization of Weed
 
2012-06-26 10:53:02 AM

gilgigamesh: Good.

Far be it from me to believe that the press will start doing its job anytime soon, but they can't just let Romney and his representatives follow through on their strategy to take no position on absolutely anything until November.

It's getting tiresome watching them blatantly dodge answering a direct question and get away with it. Start nailing these farkers down for chrissake.


I think this is the first time I have seen someone report during this entire campaign (other than perhaps the Daily Show) that he won't answer a simple question.
 
2012-06-26 10:53:46 AM

Diogenes: Alphax: bwilson27: Alphax: CNN is pretty useless, but they're welcome to try and prove me wrong.

Who the fark cares about you and your weak opinion? Get over your bad self.

Let me guess, you work for CNN?

What difference does it make here? O'Brien was doing her job well here.


Rather newsworthy itself, isn't it?
 
2012-06-26 10:54:47 AM
As heard on Diane Rehm (sp?) a few minutes ago, "it's getting so if you asked Governor Romney what he had for breakfast this morning, he'd answer by decrying President Obama's lack of leadership on the matter."

/not sure which speaker said it, wasn't her
//paraphrasing somewhat, you get the gist
 
2012-06-26 10:55:16 AM

Rev. Creflo Baller: As heard on Diane Rehm (sp?) a few minutes ago, "it's getting so if you asked Governor Romney what he had for breakfast this morning, he'd answer by decrying President Obama's lack of leadership on the matter."

/not sure which speaker said it, wasn't her
//paraphrasing somewhat, you get the gist


Yeah, I heard that.
 
2012-06-26 10:55:59 AM
He doesn't have the results of a push poll on the subject yet, so Romney can't tell anyone what his position is. That's how he is; he doesn't want to alienate even 1% of his likely supporters, so he avoids taking a stand on anything for fear of upsetting someone. He doesn't care about the rest of us; he knows there's a big % of the electorate who won't vote for him for any reason.

Watching him debate Obama is going to be classic entertainment, though. If he uses the Palin Strategy (answering questions with pre-scripted responses that may or may not have any relevence to the question itself) he'll be portrayed as a fence-sitter at best, pandering to the undecided at worst. He's like a snake-oil salesman; trust him, he knows what you need, just give him your vote first!
 
2012-06-26 10:56:19 AM

Diogenes: Take every question and direct it toward a preplanned, scripted answer.


Any decent politician does this every chance they get already; you pivot to what you want to talk about as fast as possible.
 
2012-06-26 10:57:06 AM

ps69: I think this is the first time I have seen someone report during this entire campaign (other than perhaps the Daily Show) that he won't answer a simple question.


You'll start hearing more about it. The media smells blood in the water, and nothing drives viewership like catching a politician with their guard down (see also Perry, Rick and Cain, Herman). Once SNL starts spoofing off it, it's all over. This is like the "flip flopper" attack on Kerry, I don't think Romney's ever going to be able to shake it.
 
2012-06-26 10:58:44 AM

Lost Thought 00: ps69: I think this is the first time I have seen someone report during this entire campaign (other than perhaps the Daily Show) that he won't answer a simple question.

You'll start hearing more about it. The media smells blood in the water, and nothing drives viewership like catching a politician with their guard down (see also Perry, Rick and Cain, Herman). Once SNL starts spoofing off it, it's all over. This is like the "flip flopper" attack on Kerry, I don't think Romney's ever going to be able to shake it.


The flip flopper attack on Kerry was more along the lines of 'he voted for one version of a bill, but against a different version'. Well, they're not the same, are they?
 
2012-06-26 10:58:44 AM

Glenford: I'd nail her Jell-o, if you know what I mean.
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I'd go for pudding.
 
2012-06-26 10:59:10 AM

miss diminutive: Freeze it, then nail it.


www.oocities.org
 
2012-06-26 11:01:12 AM

qorkfiend: Diogenes: Take every question and direct it toward a preplanned, scripted answer.

Any decent politician does this every chance they get already; you pivot to what you want to talk about as fast as possible.


Not to the degree she did, though. Sometimes the answer to a question is yes or no. If you answer every question with a word salad rant about lipstick and molecules and the joys of motherhood and grizzly bears, even the beleaguered and jaded American press is going to get fed up with your insulting BS eventually.
 
2012-06-26 11:03:32 AM
Mitt Romney can hold at least 16 contradictory positions at the same time without suffering a mental breakdown.
 
2012-06-26 11:04:01 AM
i.imgur.com

Best part... forever!
 
2012-06-26 11:04:04 AM

Bendal: He doesn't have the results of a push poll on the subject yet, so Romney can't tell anyone what his position is. That's how he is; he doesn't want to alienate even 1% of his likely supporters, so he avoids taking a stand on anything for fear of upsetting someone. He doesn't care about the rest of us; he knows there's a big % of the electorate who won't vote for him for any reason.

Watching him debate Obama is going to be classic entertainment, though. If he uses the Palin Strategy (answering questions with pre-scripted responses that may or may not have any relevence to the question itself) he'll be portrayed as a fence-sitter at best, pandering to the undecided at worst. He's like a snake-oil salesman; trust him, he knows what you need, just give him your vote first!


1.bp.blogspot.com

There is a two week delay before he understands what's happening.
 
2012-06-26 11:04:10 AM

Alphax: Lost Thought 00: ps69: I think this is the first time I have seen someone report during this entire campaign (other than perhaps the Daily Show) that he won't answer a simple question.

You'll start hearing more about it. The media smells blood in the water, and nothing drives viewership like catching a politician with their guard down (see also Perry, Rick and Cain, Herman). Once SNL starts spoofing off it, it's all over. This is like the "flip flopper" attack on Kerry, I don't think Romney's ever going to be able to shake it.

The flip flopper attack on Kerry was more along the lines of 'he voted for one version of a bill, but against a different version'. Well, they're not the same, are they?


No, it's a different attack, but the memeization of the attack into the general subconscious of the voting public is the same.
 
2012-06-26 11:05:41 AM
OK, you can make the accusation that Obama's policy is political pandering. I personally don't think it is, but it's debateable.

Now Mitt's campaign on the other hand, doesn't even have an opinion on the DREAM Act. It's not a new plan, the bill and it's ideas are not new; by not voicing his opinion he is definitely trying to be political and not piss off any potential voters. Even if Obama was just playing politics, at least he's doing a decent job of it.
 
2012-06-26 11:05:59 AM

gilgigamesh: qorkfiend: Diogenes: Take every question and direct it toward a preplanned, scripted answer.

Any decent politician does this every chance they get already; you pivot to what you want to talk about as fast as possible.

Not to the degree she did, though. Sometimes the answer to a question is yes or no. If you answer every question with a word salad rant about lipstick and molecules and the joys of motherhood and grizzly bears, even the beleaguered and jaded American press is going to get fed up with your insulting BS eventually.


Well, yeah. It takes some chutzpah to just come out and say "I'm going to ignore all your questions and just speak", which is something I don't think Romney will do. It's also pretty unlikely that there would be yes or no questions in a presidential debate.
 
2012-06-26 11:06:08 AM

Sock Ruh Tease: [i.imgur.com image 480x320]

Best part... forever!


So when African American Romney gets 20 dollars he turns white and gives off an internet explorer?
 
2012-06-26 11:06:39 AM

Alphax: Rev. Creflo Baller: As heard on Diane Rehm (sp?) a few minutes ago, "it's getting so if you asked Governor Romney what he had for breakfast this morning, he'd answer by decrying President Obama's lack of leadership on the matter."

/not sure which speaker said it, wasn't her
//paraphrasing somewhat, you get the gist

Yeah, I heard that.


Wow. That sounds like a lovely soundbite. Can't wait to hear it in the news tonight.
 
2012-06-26 11:06:40 AM

Lost Thought 00: You'll start hearing more about it. The media smells blood in the water, and nothing drives viewership like catching a politician with their guard down (see also Perry, Rick and Cain, Herman). Once SNL starts spoofing off it, it's all over. This is like the "flip flopper" attack on Kerry, I don't think Romney's ever going to be able to shake it.


I hope so, but I ain't holding my breath. Really, though, there's nothing I'd like more for this election than to see Rmoney's deer-in-the-headlights stare plastered on all major news websites and periodicals (except Fox News) as reporters start asking him more and more specific questions.

Alphax: Rather newsworthy itself, isn't it?


Yes, yes it is.
 
2012-06-26 11:07:07 AM

qorkfiend: Diogenes: Take every question and direct it toward a preplanned, scripted answer.

Any decent politician does this every chance they get already; you pivot to what you want to talk about as fast as possible.


Pretend you are Romney and give it shot. My question: "How do you reconcile your Mormon faith never allowing its followers to fight in a war considering your will be Commander in Chief?"
 
2012-06-26 11:08:59 AM

SphericalTime: Wow. That sounds like a lovely soundbite. Can't wait to hear it in the news tonight.


One can only hope that it goes viral.
 
2012-06-26 11:09:27 AM
Time after time the Romney campaign has failed to develop what their talking points are to likely questions they're going to be asked. Early on it was questions about Mitt's wealth. Now it's about Supreme Court rulings. Weeks ago they should have developed what their message would be on all likely rulings by the court.

If this is how inept his campaign staff is, they've got serious problems in the fall.

(or, they simply don't care and their strategy comes down to Super PAC TV buys).
 
2012-06-26 11:10:40 AM

gilgigamesh: Good.

Far be it from me to believe that the press will start doing its job anytime soon, but they can't just let Romney and his representatives follow through on their strategy to take no position on absolutely anything until November.

It's getting tiresome watching them blatantly dodge answering a direct question and get away with it. Start nailing these farkers down for chrissake.


That's the weekend talk show format. Reporter asks Senator very simple question. Senator recites prescripted general response that may have nothing to do with said question. Reporter immediately moves on to different question, ignoring what was actually said.

Different theories as to why they do this:

1. Reporter is committed to being fair and impartial. To him, that means never calling anyone on anything, no matter how bogus.
2. Reporter doesn't give a shiat, would rather be covering Kardashians/is there for paycheck.
3. Reporter is afraid of being too tough and losing access to people in the future.
4. Reporter has been told by corporate owners not to piss these people off.
5. Reporter has no interviewing skills/does not know issues/cannot deviate from script
6. Reporter is simply a wimp, and has no business interviewing anyone

I expect all of the above out of CNN, and rarely watch it. Good to be proven wrong once in a while.
 
2012-06-26 11:10:54 AM

mrshowrules: qorkfiend: Diogenes: Take every question and direct it toward a preplanned, scripted answer.

Any decent politician does this every chance they get already; you pivot to what you want to talk about as fast as possible.

Pretend you are Romney and give it shot. My question: "How do you reconcile your Mormon faith never allowing its followers to fight in a war considering your will be Commander in Chief?"


I'll give it a shot, but I'm having a hard time:

1) Adopting the smarmy persona.
2) Using an script he'd feel comfortable instead of giving the answer I would
 
2012-06-26 11:13:24 AM
Give Mittens a break - he hasn't had enough time to test the waters to determine his position on the SCOTUS rulings yet.
 
2012-06-26 11:14:03 AM

Diogenes: I guarantee that he's going to adopt Palin's debate strategy. Take every question and direct it toward a preplanned, scripted answer. And his supporters will never realize he didn't answer a farking a thing and crown him the winner. Obama's talent for thinking on his feet will mean nothing in that scenario. Which is depressing.


I think the difference here is one of personality. There were a LOT of people who honestly LOVED Mother Palin, and a lot more who would have been very upset if Mean ol' Biden had taken her out behind the woodshed.

Mitt Romney does not have that. There is *NO* personality there, and he won't have anyone who really *LIKES* him. So in these debates, you have a likable guy who knows what he's talking about, against an unlikable guy who doesn't.

The best part for Obama is that there will be NO backlash if he stands up there and tells Romney that "Unfunded mandates" is actually two words, not just one really big word.
 
2012-06-26 11:14:16 AM

CPennypacker: My grandfather didn't come all the way here from the Ukraine to share the country with a bunch of immigrants.


He came here illegally?
 
2012-06-26 11:14:35 AM

mrshowrules: qorkfiend: Diogenes: Take every question and direct it toward a preplanned, scripted answer.

Any decent politician does this every chance they get already; you pivot to what you want to talk about as fast as possible.

Pretend you are Romney and give it shot. My question: "How do you reconcile your Mormon faith never allowing its followers to fight in a war considering your will be Commander in Chief?"


In general, this is an easy one; toss the Mormon part a bit about freedom of religion, then talk about national security and how bad you think Obama is at it.

"One of the greatest strengths of America is freedom of religion; having religion be free from government interference. As Commander in Chief, I will secure our borders and ensure the security of America for the future; I won't weaken America, but I also won't enter into unnecessary conflicts."

I'm sure a wealthy *sniff, sniff* mule farmer like Romney would be able to bullshiat a bit better than I can.
 
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