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(Sun Sentinel)   Today in Bath Salt news: a man on synthetic drugs eats a dog. Is there some sort of chemical reaction between the Florida air and synthetic drugs that causes a person to start eating live mammals?   (sun-sentinel.com) divider line 112
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2012-06-26 10:43:24 AM  
Why cant these people handle their drugs!
They ruin it for the rest of us!

I used this stuff, twice a day before and during work as a mild stimulant for a month and it was great, it suppressed my appetite and gave me a huge boost of energy.

The whole problem is a lake of education I think, its not like coke, you don't do large dose's of it, just 10mg dose, about a matchstick head's worth, and your good to go
 
2012-06-26 10:43:54 AM  
Legalize marijuana. Save the dogs & winos.
 
2012-06-26 10:44:11 AM  
A. Didn't happen in FL
B. Not bath salts
C. Subby fail
 
2012-06-26 10:44:14 AM  

mekki: Why isn't anyone using these synthetic drugs as weapons instead of for recreational habits?

Instead of bombing an enemy town, slip bath salts into their water supply and let everyone literally tear each other apart. Your side doesn't even have to get their hands dirty.

I mean, this Movie Villain Evil 101 here.


It violates Geneva Conventions.
 
2012-06-26 10:44:20 AM  

mekki: Why isn't anyone using these synthetic drugs as weapons instead of for recreational habits?

Instead of bombing an enemy town, slip bath salts into their water supply and let everyone literally tear each other apart. Your side doesn't even have to get their hands dirty.

I mean, this Movie Villain Evil 101 here.


or just leave out the violence causing component leaving only pure methylone?
 
2012-06-26 10:44:25 AM  

Matthew Keene: [icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com image 500x282]


dammit
 
2012-06-26 10:46:49 AM  
wow, the propaganda machine for synthetic weed is quite strong, huh.

headline after headline proclaiming it's extreme dangers.
 
2012-06-26 10:47:36 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: mekki: Why isn't anyone using these synthetic drugs as weapons instead of for recreational habits?

Instead of bombing an enemy town, slip bath salts into their water supply and let everyone literally tear each other apart. Your side doesn't even have to get their hands dirty.

I mean, this Movie Villain Evil 101 here.

It violates Geneva Conventions.


True. But not everyone follows the Geneva Conventions. If someone was willing to fly planes into buildings, I don't see how someone else spiking the water supply with these drugs would be so farfetched.
 
j4x
2012-06-26 10:50:11 AM  
The research chemical rabbit hole goes much deeper than most people know.

I took a bunch of methylone at a rave and had a great time, and I generally have anxiety issues with a lot of drugs.
 
2012-06-26 10:51:21 AM  
Yesterday, I talked to a friend to has had conversations with recovering drug addicts who have taken bath salts. They say you have a terrible urge to bite living things. "Like a dog" was the quote, apparently.
 
2012-06-26 10:54:17 AM  

j4x: The research chemical rabbit hole goes much deeper than most people know.

I took a bunch of methylone at a rave and had a great time, and I generally have anxiety issues with a lot of drugs.


who has time to research individual chemicals when your gas station carries them in a pouch labeled "bath salts"
 
2012-06-26 10:54:27 AM  
He had some K-2, then he had some K-9.
 
j4x
2012-06-26 10:55:23 AM  

KellyX: What amazes me is as much as this shiat is in the news, people are still doing it... or for that matter this shiat is still being sold in stores.


This is what happens when you ban the far safer and more researched drugs.

Everyone could just go out and do molly or coke and have a grand ol time with minimum risk but instead we're dealing with this bullshiat.
 
2012-06-26 10:55:31 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: mekki: Why isn't anyone using these synthetic drugs as weapons instead of for recreational habits?

Instead of bombing an enemy town, slip bath salts into their water supply and let everyone literally tear each other apart. Your side doesn't even have to get their hands dirty.

I mean, this Movie Villain Evil 101 here.

It violates Geneva Conventions.


i50.tinypic.com

I never *HEARD* of it.
 
2012-06-26 10:56:02 AM  
I think Subby is moran. 1) the incident took place in Waco, TX, not Florida and 2) the dumbass perp said he was tripping on synthetic maryjane, not bath salts.

Texas definitely needs it's own tag...
 
2012-06-26 10:58:09 AM  

lockers: Diogenes: KellyX: What amazes me is as much as this shiat is in the news, people are still doing it... or for that matter this shiat is still being sold in stores.

I have yet to hear of a lawsuit against any of the smoke or head shops that sell the stuff. I predict that will start happening.

Actually, they are getting prosecuted. Here is an article for you to peruse.


I was thinking more of civil suits by families who have lost people to it. Either directly or by someone freaking out and harming a loved one. Civil liability. Can get costly.
 
2012-06-26 10:59:49 AM  

kobrakai: Diogenes: Jon iz teh kewl: when i was on bath salts the only thing i wanted to do was lie in bed and make sure i didn't hyper ventilate

No one I know who's tried incense or bath salts has described it as being pleasant at all. I really don't get it.

"You mean I can feel crappy AND possibly go on a psychopathic rampage?! Sign me up!"

Read NarcoPolo.


That was pretty stupid.
 
2012-06-26 10:59:53 AM  
it is interesting he was doing the same barking and growling at witnesses that the miami guy was doing. what triggers a human to start growling like an animal?
 
GBB
2012-06-26 11:01:08 AM  
You haven't had the munchies till you've had Bath Salt munchies...
 
2012-06-26 11:03:28 AM  

The One True TheDavid: sandi_fish:

This makes illegal drugs seem safe in comparison.

If they legalized marijuana and 'shrooms this synthetic shiate would go out of style PDQ.

I had a couple bad trips in my youth but nothing like these articles describe.

Could these people be totally psycho to begin with? Maybe that guy in Florida always wanted to eat the face off a wino and only ingested a bit of that chemical to give himself an excuse? Or could it be the placebo effect again: you think you're taking a drug that will make you act very strange but the bottle itself contains just baking soda?


Some psychedelic drugs are really not to be messed with. Back when I was in high school in the late 80's early 90's, I had a teacher who's father was a cop. The teacher would talk to us openly about drugs and tell us the stories his father told him when he was a kid in the 70's about encountering people on drugs from the job. Some of the worst stories where about people doing PCP or Meth, and a few of the stories involved the cops finding somebody whacked out of their minds on PCP chewing on another person. Until now I always figured that those stories were exaggerations that either his father told him to scare him away from drugs or he was telling us to scare us from hard drugs.
 
2012-06-26 11:03:41 AM  

Diogenes: lockers: Diogenes: KellyX: What amazes me is as much as this shiat is in the news, people are still doing it... or for that matter this shiat is still being sold in stores.

I have yet to hear of a lawsuit against any of the smoke or head shops that sell the stuff. I predict that will start happening.

Actually, they are getting prosecuted. Here is an article for you to peruse.

I was thinking more of civil suits by families who have lost people to it. Either directly or by someone freaking out and harming a loved one. Civil liability. Can get costly.


I doubt a head shop is going to bring you much money. Worse, the producers, at least according to that article I linked to, are kind of fly by night designers who leave the actual production to chinese firms. It's going to be hard to track them down to serve an actual lawsuit.
 
2012-06-26 11:04:34 AM  

PC LOAD LETTER: Yesterday, I talked to a friend to has had conversations with recovering drug addicts who have taken bath salts. They say you have a terrible urge to bite living things. "Like a dog" was the quote, apparently.


sounds like a great time. because when i want to get high, i want to get 'urge to eat living things like other people and my dog' high.
 
2012-06-26 11:06:54 AM  
I thought spice just make you cough up thick black loogies. Since when did it make you go crazy?

/I had my last tattoo done by a guy who stopped for a spice break. It came out quite nice.
 
2012-06-26 11:08:09 AM  

MythDragon: I thought spice just make you cough up thick black loogies. Since when did it make you go crazy?

/I had my last tattoo done by a guy who stopped for a spice break. It came out quite nice.


The thick black loogie, or the tat?
 
2012-06-26 11:08:47 AM  

I_Can't_Believe_it's_not_Boutros: All players, please ready your cards for Bath Salts Bingo.

The first call is I-8. I-8.

The second call is K-9. K-9.


You are going straight to hell, you magnificent bastard.

/Still laughing.
 
2012-06-26 11:09:01 AM  

JackieRabbit: I think Subby is moran. 1) the incident took place in Waco, TX, not Florida and 2) the dumbass perp said he was tripping on synthetic maryjane, not bath salts.

Texas definitely needs it's own tag...


I was thinking that the SICK tag overrode the FLORIDA tag with this story anyway.

/farkin Bath Salts
//stick with weed people
 
2012-06-26 11:11:32 AM  
I have been smoking something similar in Japan. Laws in japan are completely anal about possession of marijuana, but sometimes when you gotta smoke....... There is a small 10ft square shop in a backstreet of Shibuya which sells it exclusively. Its actually quite potent, surprisingly for a legal "herbal"
alternative. It has a floaty high with a slightly nutty overtones. No dogs attacked and eaten as yet, though one of the miniature dachshunds which lives across the street has been looking at me oddly. Maybe it can sense something.
 
2012-06-26 11:17:28 AM  

illuminatis: I have been smoking something similar in Japan. Laws in japan are completely anal about possession of marijuana, but sometimes when you gotta smoke....... There is a small 10ft square shop in a backstreet of Shibuya which sells it exclusively. Its actually quite potent, surprisingly for a legal "herbal"
alternative. It has a floaty high with a slightly nutty overtones. No dogs attacked and eaten as yet, though one of the miniature dachshunds which lives across the street has been looking at me oddly. Maybe it can sense something.


I'm sure he'll say something if he feels uncomfortable.
 
2012-06-26 11:20:21 AM  
Not:

t3.gstatic.com

But this:

i.i.com.com
 
2012-06-26 11:22:13 AM  

j4x: KellyX: What amazes me is as much as this shiat is in the news, people are still doing it... or for that matter this shiat is still being sold in stores.

This is what happens when you ban the far safer and more researched drugs.

Everyone could just go out and do molly or coke and have a grand ol time with minimum risk but instead we're dealing with this bullshiat.


Poppycock. You can have every drug legalized and there would still be people doing bath salts and their kin because after hearing all of these insane stories, they would want to experience the drug for themselves to see what it does to them because of the hype. It's the hype that is making people do the drugs. Not the legality of it.
 
2012-06-26 11:24:32 AM  
"Nuke..."
www.horrorfilmprops.com
 
2012-06-26 11:26:02 AM  
This is all part of Obama's campaign against Big Corner Store's that keep selling this crap.
 
2012-06-26 11:45:09 AM  

ferretman: Not:

[t3.gstatic.com image 209x241]

But this:

[i.i.com.com image 480x360]


why can't it be both

NOM NOM NOM
 
2012-06-26 11:51:10 AM  
First, Obama ramps up the raid on medical weed dispensaries, and now we are getting these planted "reefer madness" type stories about bath salts.
 
2012-06-26 11:52:34 AM  

The One True TheDavid: sandi_fish:

This makes illegal drugs seem safe in comparison.

If they legalized marijuana and 'shrooms this synthetic shiate would go out of style PDQ.

I had a couple bad trips in my youth but nothing like these articles describe.

Could these people be totally psycho to begin with? Maybe that guy in Florida always wanted to eat the face off a wino and only ingested a bit of that chemical to give himself an excuse? Or could it be the placebo effect again: you think you're taking a drug that will make you act very strange but the bottle itself contains just baking soda?


antiquecannabisbook.com

Well, it's curious that the infamy surrounding Spice/K2 is basically the same stories from Anslinger's Gore File, about all the horrible things marijuana were KNOWN to have caused people to do:

"A seventeen-year-old boy in a Southern state smoked a marijuana cigarette handed him in a poolroom. When he arrived home, he imagined that his family had been conspiring to dismember him. To forestall this, he hacked his father, mother, sister and two brothers to death with an ax while they slept -- Collier's (Magazine) - June 1949

Then we have the case of a young boy in Florida. The story runs as follows: "A young boy who had become addicted to smoking marihuana cigarettes, in a fit of frenzy because, as he stated while still under the marihuana influence, a number of people were trying to cut off his arms and legs, seized an axe and killed his father, mother, two brothers and a sister, wiping out the entire family except himself." -- Mr. Anslinger 1937 Congressional Testimony

Relation to Crime. Homicides, suicides and assaults, particularly those upon sex, are among the more grave indictments of marihuana. Perhaps the most lurid and frequently repeated case is that of a Florida youth, who, while said to have been under the influence, imagined some people were going to cut off his arms and legs; whereupon, in a frenzy, he seized an ax, killed his father and mother, 2 brothers and a sister. -- American Journal of the Medical Sciences - 1938 pg 351"

Now one COULD simply play this off as coincidence, and I think that's a reasonable assumption. People go crazy and chew on dogs periodically. People smoke Spice/K2, and a person going nuts might think gas station not-pot was the most awesome thing to try.

But another possibility: could it be that there's highly suggestible people, or rather newbies to pot who are so highly suggestible when getting high that simply TELLING them this thing makes them go axe crazy and chew on a dog causes them to do it??

I did read the Erowid "reviews" from "professional" pot smokers. They vary, some said it was "close to MJ but longer lasting", "nearly 100% comparable", others "Experienced Tripper almost Loses It". Curiously wide range of reactions from experienced users.
 
2012-06-26 11:53:58 AM  
But they stole my weed!

i.chzbgr.com
 
2012-06-26 11:56:49 AM  

Jon iz teh kewl: ferretman: Not:

[t3.gstatic.com image 209x241]

But this:

[i.i.com.com image 480x360]

why can't it be both

NOM NOM NOM


It's a floor wax *AND* a dessert topping.
 
2012-06-26 12:03:59 PM  
img.photobucket.com

"was that wrong, should I not have done that, because I gotta be honest with you, were i come from this sort of thing happens all the time."

/sorry have to deflect the disturbing nature of these stories somehow.
 
2012-06-26 12:18:39 PM  

dittybopper: Jon iz teh kewl: ferretman: Not:

[t3.gstatic.com image 209x241]

But this:

[i.i.com.com image 480x360]

why can't it be both

NOM NOM NOM

It's a floor wax *AND* a dessert topping.


a sunscreen AND a laxative!!

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-06-26 12:20:12 PM  
As someone with extensive experience in this industry... these news reports are all farking bullshiat. They were bullshiat when the spice mania was going on too. Crazy retarded prople do some crazy insane shiat, then when the police ask why they did it... they blame the shiat they saw on the news.

Ive never seen such inaccurate reporting and media employees literally just making shiat up, until I worked in the headshop industry.
 
2012-06-26 12:31:15 PM  

dittybopper: MythDragon: I thought spice just make you cough up thick black loogies. Since when did it make you go crazy?

/I had my last tattoo done by a guy who stopped for a spice break. It came out quite nice.

The thick black loogie, or the tat?


Both. It was a tattoo of a thick black loogie.
 
2012-06-26 12:57:50 PM  

Oznog: Well, it's curious that the infamy surrounding Spice/K2 is basically the same stories from Anslinger's Gore File, about all the horrible things marijuana were KNOWN to have caused people to do...


Wait, hold on. Are you suggesting that the dude who was photographed dead on the bridge from the eating attack is part of a grandiose disinformation campaign?
Purely inductive reasoning is rarely sound.
 
2012-06-26 01:02:20 PM  
i46.tinypic.com
 
2012-06-26 01:18:34 PM  
Liked my title better. Man's best friend lost in NOM. OM NOM NOM NOM.


Seriously though he couldve just went to a chinese restaurant...
 
2012-06-26 01:23:16 PM  
I love the Boobieser and his 2 alts trying to drag Obama into this as if that were even mildly amusing after he defused it with his joke at the Presidential Media schindig.

/especially considering Mitt's track record with dogs.
 
2012-06-26 01:34:36 PM  

Diogenes: lockers: Diogenes: KellyX: What amazes me is as much as this shiat is in the news, people are still doing it... or for that matter this shiat is still being sold in stores.

I have yet to hear of a lawsuit against any of the smoke or head shops that sell the stuff. I predict that will start happening.

Actually, they are getting prosecuted. Here is an article for you to peruse.

I was thinking more of civil suits by families who have lost people to it. Either directly or by someone freaking out and harming a loved one. Civil liability. Can get costly.


Can we go after these guys too?
theproposedsolution.com

Lost many friends due to these death traps.
 
2012-06-26 01:35:03 PM  
Anyone else getting this banner at the top of this article?

umbrellacorporationarmy.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-06-26 01:44:01 PM  

StoPPeRmobile: Diogenes: lockers: Diogenes: KellyX: What amazes me is as much as this shiat is in the news, people are still doing it... or for that matter this shiat is still being sold in stores.

I have yet to hear of a lawsuit against any of the smoke or head shops that sell the stuff. I predict that will start happening.

Actually, they are getting prosecuted. Here is an article for you to peruse.

I was thinking more of civil suits by families who have lost people to it. Either directly or by someone freaking out and harming a loved one. Civil liability. Can get costly.

Can we go after these guys too?
[theproposedsolution.com image 448x336]

Lost many friends due to these death traps.


Or the makers of these

1.bp.blogspot.com

I know many people, both men and women, that have lost their lives and everything they own because of these death traps.
 
2012-06-26 02:02:26 PM  
dl.dropbox.com
 
2012-06-26 02:17:02 PM  

Salmon: Synthetic marijuana = killer munchies


Yeah, I used spice once. It made me spacey and sleepy. I had no urges to eat anyone's face or pet. I just went to bed.

Is there a chance this person was already slightly whacked and the addition of foreign chemicals further messed up already delicate brain chemistry?
 
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