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(The Hill)   "Though I was called a liar for calling it like it is, many of these accusers finally saw that Obamacare did in fact create a panel of faceless bureaucrats who have the power to make life and death decisions about health care funding"   (thehill.com) divider line 214
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2012-06-26 08:30:57 AM
So farking melodramatic. The Supreme Court justices most definitely have faces. Most of them, anyway.
 
2012-06-26 08:33:35 AM
Yeah, go ahead and double down, you f*cking retard

/Goddamn you, John McCain
 
2012-06-26 08:34:00 AM
Aren't those people called "insurance adjusters"?
 
2012-06-26 08:34:41 AM
Unless you are going to fully fund every single person to an unlimited amount, no questions asked, then somewhere somebody is going to have to draw a line. A government panel doing it is no different than a private insurer doing it.
 
2012-06-26 08:35:17 AM
Biatch, please...
 
2012-06-26 08:40:26 AM
Wow, it's been weeks since I've heard anything about this woman. It was great.
 
2012-06-26 08:41:21 AM
*sigh*
 
2012-06-26 08:41:26 AM

Thoguh: Unless you are going to fully fund every single person to an unlimited amount, no questions asked, then somewhere somebody is going to have to draw a line. A government panel doing it is no different than a private insurer doing it.

I think I'd prefer a standardized single death panel than multiple private death panels, each with their own rules.
 
2012-06-26 08:42:44 AM
Those people already exist, but right now their role is mostly restricted to Medicaid and Medicare patients. Insurance companies tend to pay for most things, even if they don't they really like them, just at a reduced rate. Medicaid and Medicare will actually call doctors and tell them they're not going to pay for it and recommend other things. They just make sure to say "Do what you feel is clinically most appropriate, but I can't approve it. You can always appeal of later."
 
2012-06-26 08:43:02 AM
She is so brave to post this to Facebook. God bless her.
 
2012-06-26 08:44:55 AM

clancifer: She is so brave to post this to Facebook. God bless her.


REAL 'MERICANTM LEADER!
 
2012-06-26 08:49:47 AM
I actually agree with him.

Of course he fails to mention that ANY healthcare system you can come up with requires a panel of "faceless bureaucrats" who have the power to make life and death decisions about healthcare- your healthcare.

He certainly fails to mention that the current panel of faceless bureaucrats that are making life and death decisions about your heathcare are just getting their paycheck from somewhere other than your government.

But yes, He totally called it like it is otherwise. My hero!
 
2012-06-26 08:50:34 AM
Wow, we haven't had a Sarah Palin hate thread(TM) for a long time. Good to see she is making a comeback.

/the truth sucks, doesn't it?
 
2012-06-26 08:52:16 AM

SkunkWerks: But yes, He totally called it like it is otherwise. My hero!


And apparently I just mistook Sarah Palin for a man. I suppose it can't be worse than mistaking her for "intelligent" or "a good leader".
 
2012-06-26 08:56:19 AM
This powerful incandescent intelligent conservative sparkplug of a woman has you libfarts quaking in your boots.
 
2012-06-26 08:57:23 AM

RexTalionis: Aren't those people called "insurance adjusters"?


Actuaries, actually. But yeah.

Or as Real AmericansTM call them, Freedom Health Care Lberty Entrpeneur American Exceptionalist Job Creators. Freedom.
 
2012-06-26 08:58:17 AM

BillCo: /the truth sucks, doesn't it?


Yes, and this is why it's better to ignore the fact that whether you live or die is already decided on by faceless bureaucrats, no matter which way you decide to lean in this debate.
 
2012-06-26 08:59:05 AM
Now buy my book.

Now pay me to rile up your mouth breathers.

Now pay me.
 
2012-06-26 09:00:48 AM
I have an idea, let the doctors decide!

You know, the doctors that have sworn to uphold the Hippocratic oath. Doctors get paid based on the decision of private health insurance companies. Doctors that make these types of decisions every night when the local bum shows up, drunk on cheap wine with a broken hip because he fell down the stairs getting to his 'house' under the bridge. "Do I give him a new hip or not? Ah, fark it, he'll be back tomorrow anyway with another broken limb if he even lives that long."

I am sure they don't mind making some more decisions on whether to provide healthcare because government, insurances, and the public can't make up their farking minds.
 
2012-06-26 09:01:47 AM

sigdiamond2000: This powerful incandescent intelligent conservative sparkplug of a woman has you libfarts quaking in your boots.


Actually she has me boot-stomping your Quakes.
 
2012-06-26 09:03:00 AM

RexTalionis: Aren't those people called "insurance adjusters"?


As an American, I know I'm better off trusting some balding fark in a cubicle who gets a bonus for denying my claim. At least he's a productive worker, and not some government employee who would quarter troops in my home if I didn't keep a few guns around.
 
2012-06-26 09:03:11 AM
I'd like to sit on her Death Panel.
 
2012-06-26 09:05:25 AM

Thoguh: Unless you are going to fully fund every single person to an unlimited amount, no questions asked, then somewhere somebody is going to have to draw a line. A government panel doing it is no different than a private insurer doing it.


According to the GOP, it's an honor to have your life ended by a corporation. it's only evil when your health care is denied by a government death panel.
 
2012-06-26 09:11:46 AM
I hope the Death Panel has a trap door in front of it, because that would be awesome.
 
2012-06-26 09:12:34 AM
They hung out with dogs, got fleas, and are now mad that people keep pointing out they have fleas.
Not my problem.
 
2012-06-26 09:18:48 AM

James!: Wow, it's been weeks since I've heard anything about this woman. It was great.


I was thinking the same thing the other day: "Where is Sarah Palin? Has the right finally had enough of her insanity?". It made me a little sad, though, to think there was that much less humor in my life..
 
2012-06-26 09:20:47 AM

sigdiamond2000: This powerful incandescent intelligent conservative sparkplug of a woman has you libfarts quaking in your boots.


Too over-the-top. I know you aren't sincere, but I can't tell if you are trolling or going all-out for liberal sarcasm. Either way, work on it and come back later with something better.
 
2012-06-26 09:25:35 AM
MY GOD. THE PANELS ALREADY TOOK THEIR FACES IMAGINE WHAT THEY'LL TAKE FROM YOU!?!?!?
 
2012-06-26 09:31:43 AM
as opposed to faceless corporations doing the exact same thing?
 
2012-06-26 09:37:16 AM

BillCo: Wow, we haven't had a Sarah Palin hate thread(TM) for a long time. Good to see she is making a comeback.

/the truth sucks, doesn't it?


Sarah Palin: The real victim in all of this.
 
2012-06-26 09:50:25 AM
I just realized i made my comment in the wrong thread. Woops.
 
2012-06-26 09:55:00 AM

Thoguh: Unless you are going to fully fund every single person to an unlimited amount, no questions asked, then somewhere somebody is going to have to draw a line. A government panel doing it is no different than a private insurer doing it.


One difference is that 99% of the time an insurance company will pay for a treatment if the doctor says it is necessary.

The other is that commercial insurance acknowledges that they're insuring the entire person. Medicaid seems to envision it as separate departments, with separate budgets, responsible for specific arts of the body.

So Diabetes can refuse to pay for the best medicines and pay for one blood sugar check a day and look really good for all the money they're saving. When the patient needs an amputation or dialysis, not only are those expenses for another department, that patient now qualifies for Medicare and he's off the Medicaid books entirely.

Or Obstetrics can refuse to pay for hospitalization or medicine for an expectant mother at high risk of delivering a premature baby. They save a few hundred dollars a day, and when the baby does deliver at 28 weeks and spends two months in the NICU at $4000 a day, that's an expense for Pediatrics, which is a separate entity.

If they were insuring your car the same way they insure people, they'd just refuse any claims to Brakes or Headlights, then when you inevitably crashed into something they'd ask why Bumpers has such a hard time staying in the budget.
 
2012-06-26 09:58:33 AM

Pocket Ninja: So farking melodramatic. The Supreme Court justices most definitely have faces. Most of them, anyway.


Some have two!
 
2012-06-26 10:01:56 AM

Pocket Ninja: So farking melodramatic. The Supreme Court justices most definitely have faces. Most of them, anyway.


Scalia's is more like a wall of pizza.
 
2012-06-26 10:07:34 AM

Diogenes: I'd like to sit on her Death Panel.


If by "death panel" you mean "face", I agree with you.

/don't think you mean face
 
2012-06-26 10:23:41 AM
What we're all forgetting here is that the death panel is the very last stop on Obama's out-of-control panel complex.

No one, and I mean NO ONE goes before a death panel right away. There's at least 7 levels of panels to get through first, including:

Papercut Under A Fingernail Panel
Hot Sauce In Your Eye Panel
Bottom Of Garbage Bag Falls Out While You're Taking It To The Curb Panel
Someone Opens The Door While You're 'Batin Panel
Stubbed Toe Panel
Dog Barfs In Your Car Panel
Forcible Rape & Abortion Panel (yes, even for men)

OBAMA'S PANELS ARE EVERYTHING AMERICA HATES!
 
2012-06-26 10:28:27 AM
Ronnie Wood and Rod Stewart deciding who lives and who dies?

I'm okay with this.
 
2012-06-26 10:34:21 AM
Palin said in 2009 that under Democrats' healthcare plan, "my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's 'death panel' so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their 'level of productivity in society,' whether they are worthy of health care."

If not for the 2008 economic collapse, this women could have been VP. Every American should wake up every morning and thank their lucky stars that the economy collapsed when it did.
 
2012-06-26 11:02:46 AM

Splish: One difference is that 99% of the time an insurance company will pay for a treatment if the doctor says it is necessary.


Through the same sort of panel you'd have making those decisions in a government institution.

Splish: If they were insuring your car the same way they insure people, they'd just refuse any claims to Brakes or Headlights, then when you inevitably crashed into something they'd ask why Bumpers has such a hard time staying in the budget.


Funny, I see private insurance companies pulling this sort of thing all the time. Dental insurance that won't cover sealing teeth (a preventative that arguably saves a lot of money in cavity filling in the long run), but fillings? That ain't no thang! We'll cover that shiat into the billions, dawg!

Again, not really seeing how we're in better hands right now. It's simply a matter of who their paycheck comes from. I'm astounded this whole "death panel" issue remains relevant in anyone with a demonstrably functional autonomic nervous system. Then again, I wonder the same thing about Sarah Palin.
 
2012-06-26 11:04:19 AM
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2012-06-26 11:23:34 AM

SkunkWerks: Again, not really seeing how we're in better hands right now. It's simply a matter of who their paycheck comes from. I'm astounded this whole "death panel" issue remains relevant in anyone with a demonstrably functional autonomic nervous system. Then again, I wonder the same thing about Sarah Palin.


Were in better hands right now because the insurance companies are indebted to the patients as customers, and patients can choose a different plan or different company altogether if they're not satisfied. It's the difference between eating at a restaurant or a soup kitchen.
 
2012-06-26 11:25:40 AM

SkunkWerks: I'm astounded this whole "death panel" issue remains relevant in anyone with a demonstrably functional autonomic nervous system.


Its not, it is only relevant to republicans...
 
2012-06-26 11:27:09 AM
She is the star around which our politics revolve.
 
2012-06-26 11:28:17 AM

BillCo: Wow, we haven't had a Sarah Palin hate thread(TM) for a long time. Good to see she is making a comeback.

/the truth sucks, doesn't it?


You shouldn't bother with white-knighting. Just because retards come out of her doesn't mean she lets retards come in her.
 
2012-06-26 11:28:35 AM

Splish: SkunkWerks: Again, not really seeing how we're in better hands right now. It's simply a matter of who their paycheck comes from. I'm astounded this whole "death panel" issue remains relevant in anyone with a demonstrably functional autonomic nervous system. Then again, I wonder the same thing about Sarah Palin.

Were in better hands right now because the insurance companies are indebted to the patients as customers, and patients can choose a different plan or different company altogether if they're not satisfied. It's the difference between eating at a restaurant or a soup kitchen.


Yes once you're diagnosed with a serious condition it's easy just to quit your current carrier and find someone else.

/not sure if serious
 
2012-06-26 11:29:38 AM

Splish: SkunkWerks: Again, not really seeing how we're in better hands right now. It's simply a matter of who their paycheck comes from. I'm astounded this whole "death panel" issue remains relevant in anyone with a demonstrably functional autonomic nervous system. Then again, I wonder the same thing about Sarah Palin.

Were in better hands right now because the insurance companies are indebted to the patients as customers, and patients can choose a different plan or different company altogether if they're not satisfied. It's the difference between eating at a restaurant or a soup kitchen.


Do you choose your insurance company, or does your employer make that choice for you?
 
2012-06-26 11:29:45 AM

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2012-06-26 11:29:47 AM

Thoguh: Unless you are going to fully fund every single person to an unlimited amount, no questions asked, then somewhere somebody is going to have to draw a line. A government panel doing it is no different than a private insurer doing it.


While your statement is certainly accurate. No such government panel actually exists.
 
2012-06-26 11:29:49 AM

DarnoKonrad: She is the star around which our politics revolve.


I was thinking more along the line of a black hole.
 
2012-06-26 11:30:26 AM

Thoguh: Unless you are going to fully fund every single person to an unlimited amount, no questions asked, then somewhere somebody is going to have to draw a line. A government panel doing it is no different than a private insurer doing it.


yeah it is. the govt won't take into consideration how much money you have. only whether or not giving a liver transplant to an 80 yr old alcoholic is the best use of it.
 
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