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(Colorado Springs Gazette)   The military steps in with C-130s to take on the Waldo Canyon fire just outside Colorado Springs. Go get 'em boys   (gazette.com) divider line 253
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2012-06-25 03:06:51 PM
seems like over kill, I can usually find him after a few minutes of searching
 
2012-06-25 03:10:12 PM
Where's that canyon?
 
2012-06-25 03:13:08 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Where's that canyon?


IT'S THE ONE WITH THE STRIPES AND.. AND...
 
2012-06-25 03:14:21 PM
Let's just hope they don't get all excited and lose the wings this time.
 
2012-06-25 03:30:54 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Where's that canyon?


Just west of Colorado Springs.
 
2012-06-25 03:31:34 PM

Unfreakable: AdolfOliverPanties: Where's that canyon?

Just west of Colorado Springs.


I just bit, didn't I?

/dammit
 
2012-06-25 03:59:18 PM

Unfreakable: Unfreakable: AdolfOliverPanties: Where's that canyon?

Just west of Colorado Springs.

I just bit, didn't I?

/dammit


No, you just found it and you're onto the next page: Waldo, Kansas. Go.
 
2012-06-25 04:17:38 PM
Tomorrow's WND headline: MYSTERY MILITARY AIRCRAFT SPOTTED FLYING LOW OVER COLORADO
 
2012-06-25 04:24:32 PM

Marcus Aurelius: Let's just hope they don't get all excited and lose the wings this time.


I remember seeing that happen just after I moved to Estes Park in 2002. The plane exploded in mid-air. Talk about a helpless feeling....

crash
 
2012-06-25 05:08:57 PM
i18.photobucket.com

Waldo's canyons?
 
2012-06-25 05:11:01 PM
I see all the obvious Waldo jokes have been used up, moving right along then....
 
2012-06-25 05:12:40 PM
You can find it on a map if you look really hard but you'll need glasses. And a hat.
 
2012-06-25 05:13:07 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Tomorrow's WND headline: MYSTERY MILITARY AIRCRAFT SPOTTED FLYING LOW OVER COLORADO


Unlikely:

FTFA:

2:42
We're getting reports that the C-130s have been grounded because of smoke, but we haven't confirmed. Report comes from our news partners at KOAA.
 
2012-06-25 05:17:08 PM

adeist69: I see all the obvious Waldo jokes have been used up, moving right along then....


What Waldo jokes? I didn't see any. Are they hidden in this thread somewhere?
 
2012-06-25 05:18:00 PM
My cousin's house is half a mile from the fire as of yesterday so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.
 
2012-06-25 05:18:36 PM
Those huge trees I used to ride under are surely ash, though they were pine.

Miss Waldo Canyon rides!
 
2012-06-25 05:18:45 PM

VRaptor117: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Tomorrow's WND headline: MYSTERY MILITARY AIRCRAFT SPOTTED FLYING LOW OVER COLORADO

Unlikely:

FTFA:

2:42
We're getting reports that the C-130s have been grounded because of smoke, but we haven't confirmed. Report comes from our news partners at KOAA.


So much for that.
 
2012-06-25 05:18:55 PM
Waldo pond?
 
2012-06-25 05:19:20 PM

VRaptor117: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Tomorrow's WND headline: MYSTERY MILITARY AIRCRAFT SPOTTED FLYING LOW OVER COLORADO

Unlikely:

FTFA:

2:42
We're getting reports that the C-130s have been grounded because of smoke, but we haven't confirmed. Report comes from our news partners at KOAA.


Oh my

/my joke is invalid
//bless you sir... bless you
 
2012-06-25 05:20:07 PM
Screw prop planes, they need this bad boy. Saw it at work in the Texas wildfires last year.


thevelvetrocket.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-06-25 05:21:37 PM
This shiat's about 5 miles from my house. Last night we were completely inundated with smoke, just like the entire south side of town.

It's awfully fun to watch what amounts to a 30-foot tall bonfire just up the hill after sundown, though.
 
2012-06-25 05:21:38 PM
Damn, the fire had to kill at least 13 people in a row without dying to get those!
 
2012-06-25 05:23:31 PM

algrant33: This shiat's about 5 miles from my house. Last night we were completely inundated with smoke, just like the entire south side of town.

It's awfully fun to watch what amounts to a 30-foot tall bonfire just up the hill after sundown, though.


Buzzkill.
 
2012-06-25 05:24:13 PM

Maud Dib: Screw prop planes, they need this bad boy. Saw it at work in the Texas wildfires last year.


[thevelvetrocket.files.wordpress.com image 640x447]


payload capacity is all that matters for these things, propulsion type is irrelevant... push come to shove, I'd take a prop, it's slower and has the ability to be slightly more accurate.

Military kinda had to step in to fight this one though, it's at Fort Carson's doorstep.
 
2012-06-25 05:24:16 PM

algrant33: This shiat's about 5 miles from my house. Last night we were completely inundated with smoke, just like the entire south side of town.

It's awfully fun to watch what amounts to a 30-foot tall bonfire just up the hill after sundown, though.


You have a really weird sense of "what is fun", don't you? You probably watch train wrecks on Saturday afternoon to relax.

/oh wait, so do I.
//"Caught on Camera" disaster marathon
 
2012-06-25 05:24:32 PM

SultanofSchwing: algrant33: This shiat's about 5 miles from my house. Last night we were completely inundated with smoke, just like the entire south side of town.

It's awfully fun to watch what amounts to a 30-foot tall bonfire just up the hill after sundown, though.

Buzzkill.


What? We were drinking.
 
2012-06-25 05:24:58 PM

halB: kill at least 13 people in a row without dying


[nathanfillioncantreply.gif]
 
2012-06-25 05:25:10 PM
Wow, fighting a 5,000 acre fire with a plane that can carry almost 3000 gallons of water at a time.

I'll bet they can effectively cover up to five acres with just one plane.

// They have a couple hundred of those planes, right?
 
2012-06-25 05:28:36 PM
OBAMA PANDERING

or

BIG GOVERNMENT PICKING WINNERS AND LOSERS
 
2012-06-25 05:28:58 PM

algrant33: SultanofSchwing: algrant33: This shiat's about 5 miles from my house. Last night we were completely inundated with smoke, just like the entire south side of town.

It's awfully fun to watch what amounts to a 30-foot tall bonfire just up the hill after sundown, though.

Buzzkill.

What? We were drinking.


What? You were not?
 
2012-06-25 05:29:27 PM

halB: Damn, the fire had to kill at least 13 people in a row without dying to get those!


it's 11 or 10 if it has hardline, but I'm guessing it used danger close
 
2012-06-25 05:30:08 PM

Maud Dib: Screw prop planes, they need this bad boy. Saw it at work in the Texas wildfires last year.


[thevelvetrocket.files.wordpress.com image 640x447]


That one probably needs a longer runway though.

What I'm wondering is if we have those planes that can scoop up water from a nearby lake and dump it on a fire. I think we used to use converted PBY's, and the Russians have built some using more recent airframes.

Example:
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-06-25 05:31:00 PM
subversatile.net

I heard we were taking on fire at Waldo Canyon. I responded with C-130s.
 
2012-06-25 05:33:30 PM
Hopefully there aren't any big fires elsewhere in the nation. More than half of our wildfire fighting equipment is in Colorado right now, and it looks like the temperature is going to keep hovering around 100 degrees without any rain in sight
 
2012-06-25 05:34:05 PM

notmtwain: Wow, fighting a 5,000 acre fire with a plane that can carry almost 3000 gallons of water at a time.

I'll bet they can effectively cover up to five acres with just one plane.

// They have a couple hundred of those planes, right?


I'm no expert on firefighting, but I assume that you can use each plane more than once.
 
2012-06-25 05:34:27 PM

Arkanaut: Maud Dib: Screw prop planes, they need this bad boy. Saw it at work in the Texas wildfires last year.


[thevelvetrocket.files.wordpress.com image 640x447]

That one probably needs a longer runway though.

What I'm wondering is if we have those planes that can scoop up water from a nearby lake and dump it on a fire. I think we used to use converted PBY's, and the Russians have built some using more recent airframes.

Example:
[upload.wikimedia.org image 639x480]


Bombardier makes some awesome planes that scoop up water from lakes and dump them, I saw one go over about an hour ago.

www.flugzeuginfo.net
 
2012-06-25 05:35:02 PM
and no, that's not the one I saw, just a picture of some CL415 like the one I saw.
 
rka
2012-06-25 05:35:36 PM

notmtwain: Wow, fighting a 5,000 acre fire with a plane that can carry almost 3000 gallons of water at a time.

I'll bet they can effectively cover up to five acres with just one plane.

// They have a couple hundred of those planes, right?


You don't put out a forest fire with the planes. All the planes do is make an area (cool it down) where the firefighters can get into and really go to work. WIldfires are fought by people on the ground doing hard, backbreaking work.
 
2012-06-25 05:36:30 PM

Communist_Manifesto: Hopefully there aren't any big fires elsewhere in the nation. More than half of our wildfire fighting equipment is in Colorado right now, and it looks like the temperature is going to keep hovering around 100 degrees without any rain in sight


Yeah, we are burning up here. In some places literally.


/not looking forward to the electric bill
 
2012-06-25 05:38:58 PM
Go get 'em boys

Sexist.
 
2012-06-25 05:39:21 PM

RoyBatty: [subversatile.net image 450x301]

I heard we were taking on fire at Waldo Canyon. I responded with C-130s.


Close. That would be an AC-130. If you responded with a C-130, it would be with supplies, retardant, or a plane load of very pissed off paratroopers.

But I like the way you think.
 
rka
2012-06-25 05:39:26 PM

jst3p: Communist_Manifesto: Hopefully there aren't any big fires elsewhere in the nation. More than half of our wildfire fighting equipment is in Colorado right now, and it looks like the temperature is going to keep hovering around 100 degrees without any rain in sight

Yeah, we are burning up here. In some places literally.


/not looking forward to the electric bill


The little storm activity we are getting is basically lightning. Just what we need.
 
2012-06-25 05:39:59 PM
I'm torn. On the one hand, I don't want to see my childhood town damaged. On the other, it's Colorado Springs. Fire might do it a favor.

Unfortunately, the city itself will be spared. The nice outer parts won't.
 
2012-06-25 05:41:58 PM

MeSoHomely: RoyBatty: [subversatile.net image 450x301]

I heard we were taking on fire at Waldo Canyon. I responded with C-130s.

Close. That would be an AC-130. If you responded with a C-130, it would be with supplies, retardant, or a plane load of very pissed off paratroopers.

But I like the way you think.


Just cutting fire breaks, Sir!
 
2012-06-25 05:42:07 PM

notmtwain: Wow, fighting a 5,000 acre fire with a plane that can carry almost 3000 gallons of water at a time.

I'll bet they can effectively cover up to five acres with just one plane.

// They have a couple hundred of those planes, right?


The planes are not used to 'put out' a wildfire. They are used to buy time, slow down a hot spot, protect a specific structure, 'guide' the fire in a less destructive direction. They give the boots on the ground a chance to contain the fire and limit its destruction.

Nobody puts out a wildfire, all you can do is contain it and let it burn out.
 
2012-06-25 05:42:36 PM

Arkanaut: Maud Dib: Screw prop planes, they need this bad boy. Saw it at work in the Texas wildfires last year.


[thevelvetrocket.files.wordpress.com image 640x447]

That one probably needs a longer runway though.

What I'm wondering is if we have those planes that can scoop up water from a nearby lake and dump it on a fire. I think we used to use converted PBY's, and the Russians have built some using more recent airframes.

Example:
[upload.wikimedia.org image 639x480]


Nope. They're using 60+ year-old submarine hunters donated by the military. They need to land and be refilled by a tanker. And I think there are less than a dozen left that are still airworthy.
 
2012-06-25 05:45:01 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Where's that canyon?


I wouldn't know.

Carmen Sandiego stole the damn thing.
 
2012-06-25 05:45:30 PM
Between the fires, which are TNCGWEITAIHNDHA (Totally Not Caused by Global Warming, and Even If They Are, It Has Nothing to Do with Human Action), and the pine beetle, which is likewise TNCGWEITAIHNDHA, Colorado, and plenty of other Western states, are going to become very sad places in the coming decades. Devoid of forest (certainly of pine trees), and eventually more or less uninhabitable, unless you don't mind your house burning down every few years.

They'd better pass a law soon making it illegal to suggest that the fires and beetles anything other than TNCGWEITAIHNDHA.
 
2012-06-25 05:46:14 PM

firefly212: Arkanaut: Maud Dib: Screw prop planes, they need this bad boy. Saw it at work in the Texas wildfires last year.


[thevelvetrocket.files.wordpress.com image 640x447]

That one probably needs a longer runway though.

What I'm wondering is if we have those planes that can scoop up water from a nearby lake and dump it on a fire. I think we used to use converted PBY's, and the Russians have built some using more recent airframes.

Example:
[upload.wikimedia.org image 639x480]

Bombardier makes some awesome planes that scoop up water from lakes and dump them, I saw one go over about an hour ago.

[www.flugzeuginfo.net image 640x480]


Peterson Air Force Base is about 10 miles from the area so they can fill as they please without risking water reloads, which some if not most pilots would probably prefer.

As far as the hercs are concerned, I'm thinking that the issue is an altitude/air mixture issue caused by the smoke which would affect most aircraft similarly. The Air Force (like all military forces) runs a risk analysis for flight missions and just does not think that the risk is worth the reward right now.
 
2012-06-25 05:47:28 PM

RoyBatty: MeSoHomely: RoyBatty: [subversatile.net image 450x301]

I heard we were taking on fire at Waldo Canyon. I responded with C-130s.

Close. That would be an AC-130. If you responded with a C-130, it would be with supplies, retardant, or a plane load of very pissed off paratroopers.

But I like the way you think.

Just cutting fire breaks, Sir!


And in the right areas, you can do lots of area improvements in advance of the fire.

/Since he always sends disasters their way, I have to ask: Why does God hate trailer parks?
 
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