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2012-06-25 08:50:53 PM  
I still use WinAmp...
 
2012-06-25 08:51:08 PM  
Win 7 user and still using Winamp 5.05 with the MMD3 skin.

It crossfades well, while also volume levels while playing 600 gigs of music that I didn't steal off the interwebz. Haven't found a better app with such versatile plug-ins, and refuse to downgrade to icrap.
 
2012-06-25 08:53:43 PM  
iTunes is 170 megabytes? WHY? Is there sample music and movies and crap, or just horribly inefficient code?

When I play mp3s from my computer instead of streaming, I use VLC... but I mostly stream from Grooveshark and related services. I loved WinAmp.
 
2012-06-25 08:55:41 PM  

zomega: I still use Winamp. I didn't know it'd become obscure.


You, sir, are a Hipster now.
 
2012-06-25 08:57:44 PM  

ThePuceGuardian: way south: Q: What happened to Winamp?
A: AOL.
(No, I don't need to read the article.)

[dl.dropbox.com image 120x120]

/Used winamp alot.
/There was another one that I can't recall, but it had better skins.
/Eventually got stuck using iTunes with no skins, mods, or features.
/Where did the fun go?

Were you thinking of Sonique?

[i.imgur.com image 350x253]

Went back and tried it again a few years ago. I don't think it runs on Vista/7, though.
Apparently, Soritong will play on XP - it's involved in a rather nifty exploit - but I never had any luck.

[i.imgur.com image 350x203]

Listening to VNV Nation on WinAMP right now.
While enjoying iced tea and my immaculately groomed lawn.


That's the one!

/An Evangelion skin.
/Linkin park on the playlist
/A matrix screen saver.
/A 56K modem straining to download songs over Napster.
/Anyone who saw my desktop would realize I was web surfing 1337!.
 
2012-06-25 08:58:10 PM  
Anything that AOL touches turns to shiat. Look at Netscape. Look at WinAMP. Hell, look at Time Warner.

How AOL is still in business after all of these mistakes really makes me question the free market system.
 
2012-06-25 09:03:26 PM  

Dragonflew: iTunes is 170 megabytes? WHY? Is there sample music and movies and crap, or just horribly inefficient code?


Looks like it's mostly resource files (images and such) and special files (firmware?) for different iDevices. While I doubt the code is very efficient -- since iTunes is basically several apps poorly hacked into one window -- the binaries are a tiny portion of the overall file size.

It's also worth noting that WinAmp is now a 20 meg download.
 
2012-06-25 09:09:59 PM  

LittleMissStubborn: I remember when WinAmp skins were the most awesome thing ever.
I can't believe that was over a decade ago.
Feeling a little old.



Something a decade ago is making you feel old?
Damn whippersnapper.
 
2012-06-25 09:11:34 PM  
I loved musicmatchbox back in the day, when they ruined it I went looking for a replacement. Found it inWinamp and have been a loyal paying user ever since. They really have not screwed it up by trying to add features so people will pay to upgrade. Just like MMB, a good player that handles everything without being obnoxious.

Also handles my APE and FLAC library with out hassles.

Yeah, I got 3 terabytes of music, Winamp does it quite well thank you
v5.61 isn't the latest but it ain't broke so no need to upgrade yet
 
2012-06-25 09:13:40 PM  

downstairs: Grand_Moff_Joseph: I hardly use it now...mainly because I just bookmark YouTube videos with songs I want to listen to.

Funny you should say that. I just realized yesterday that I hardly listen to actual mp3 files any more. At least when I'm at home. Its so much easier just to type in a song name on a you tube search. And you get the benefit of finding live, cover, or rare versions of said song you'd never heard before.


Another tip: add &fmt=18 after the video's identifier in the URL and it will play at the highest audio quality possible.
 
2012-06-25 09:18:24 PM  

pyrotek85:
This. I feel like I'm the only person who organizes music into folders by group/album. As others have said, I don't care about album art or even visualizations, I just let it play in the background.


I do the same. I buy all my music through Amazon these days, which conveniently downloads everything in MP3 format and automatically creates the folders and subfolders in the music folder of my choosing. I hate random play and always listen to music by the album, so I just open the folder and click 'play all'. I've never liked any sort of auto music management. I even use PowerAmp for my Android phone, which lets you view your music by folder instead of my tagged info.

I have a ton of old music I ripped myself ages ago anyway, none of it tagged or even named. Just 'track 1.mp3', 'track 2.mp3', etc. The folder is named after the album, of course, so I can find and play it easily... but any mp3 player software that tries to organize things by tag/filename is worthless for that.
 
2012-06-25 09:18:43 PM  
I only switched off WinAmp because it didn't play nicely with my soundcard. Foobar did and I've used it for a few years now. Never tried the WASAPI thing until just now. Seems to be a little clearer, but when I pause / stop audio I get a very fast stutter until I unpause/pause again a couple times.
 
2012-06-25 09:25:09 PM  

redonkulon: Rwa2play: Rent Party: Rwa2play: This begs the question: Why aren't the other smartphone makers (i.e. Samsung) just taking their devices and making them media players. Too expensive? Not enough bang for the buck that they would have to spend?

Considering how many complaints are there with ITunes, if someone put out a 64GB media player that you can sync up with ANY media player such as WinAMP, it would do pretty good business.

My Samsung device plays all my music from a number of different sources. The native player kind of sucks, but I do a lot with Amazon's CloudPlayer and am relatively happy with it.

Still think someone putting up a rival to the iPod touch would work, if only because iTunes sucks the llama's balls.

I think these have been around for a while now. I mean this is Samsung Galaxy 5.0 Android MP3 Playeris Link

I'm still kickin the WinAmp, jammin out to digitally imported Breaks and nubreaks on a daily basis


Hmmm impressive...but only 8 gigs? Yeah, yeah, yeah it has an sd card slot that you can add another 32 gigs of music to it but why couldn't they just add it to their player? How much of a hassle could that be?
 
2012-06-25 09:26:11 PM  

ThePuceGuardian: way south: Q: What happened to Winamp?
A: AOL.
(No, I don't need to read the article.)

[dl.dropbox.com image 120x120]

/Used winamp alot.
/There was another one that I can't recall, but it had better skins.
/Eventually got stuck using iTunes with no skins, mods, or features.
/Where did the fun go?

Were you thinking of Sonique?

[i.imgur.com image 350x253]

Went back and tried it again a few years ago. I don't think it runs on Vista/7, though.
Apparently, Soritong will play on XP - it's involved in a rather nifty exploit - but I never had any luck.

[i.imgur.com image 350x203]

Listening to VNV Nation on WinAMP right now.
While enjoying iced tea and my immaculately groomed lawn.


I loved the hell out of Sonique. Great player.
 
2012-06-25 09:29:23 PM  

MrEricSir: Dragonflew: iTunes is 170 megabytes? WHY? Is there sample music and movies and crap, or just horribly inefficient code?

Looks like it's mostly resource files (images and such) and special files (firmware?) for different iDevices. While I doubt the code is very efficient -- since iTunes is basically several apps poorly hacked into one window -- the binaries are a tiny portion of the overall file size.

It's also worth noting that WinAmp is now a 20 meg download.


Compared to iTunes, WinAmp's just a tiny hiccup.
 
2012-06-25 09:31:21 PM  
Oh, I'm supposed to hate Winamp now? It's so hard to keep track of all the trendiness.

/Using it right now
//Suck it, haters.
 
2012-06-25 09:36:20 PM  
I still use the hell out of winamp for everything except a few particularly obscure video formats, for which I use Media Player Classic.

I'm sad that I can't seem to find the Fallout skin that I used to use, though. The only one I can find on the site is similar, but not right at all.
 
2012-06-25 09:38:17 PM  
so it no longer whips the llama's ass?

Link
 
2012-06-25 09:39:47 PM  

Cheeselover3000: I still use the hell out of winamp for everything except a few particularly obscure video formats, for which I use Media Player Classic.

I'm sad that I can't seem to find the Fallout skin that I used to use, though. The only one I can find on the site is similar, but not right at all.



It's the SpyAmp skin for me!
 
2012-06-25 09:40:32 PM  

Rwa2play: redonkulon: Rwa2play: Rent Party: Rwa2play: This begs the question: Why aren't the other smartphone makers (i.e. Samsung) just taking their devices and making them media players. Too expensive? Not enough bang for the buck that they would have to spend?

Considering how many complaints are there with ITunes, if someone put out a 64GB media player that you can sync up with ANY media player such as WinAMP, it would do pretty good business.

My Samsung device plays all my music from a number of different sources. The native player kind of sucks, but I do a lot with Amazon's CloudPlayer and am relatively happy with it.

Still think someone putting up a rival to the iPod touch would work, if only because iTunes sucks the llama's balls.

I think these have been around for a while now. I mean this is Samsung Galaxy 5.0 Android MP3 Playeris Link

I'm still kickin the WinAmp, jammin out to digitally imported Breaks and nubreaks on a daily basis

Hmmm impressive...but only 8 gigs? Yeah, yeah, yeah it has an sd card slot that you can add another 32 gigs of music to it but why couldn't they just add it to their player? How much of a hassle could that be?


You know, on second thought that's actually not terrible. Especially if I can have the music on studio quality (320 KBps) on just the SD card.
 
2012-06-25 09:47:04 PM  

Cheeselover3000: I still use the hell out of winamp for everything except a few particularly obscure video formats, for which I use Media Player Classic.

I'm sad that I can't seem to find the Fallout skin that I used to use, though. The only one I can find on the site is similar, but not right at all.


?

img.1001skins.com
 
2012-06-25 09:49:28 PM  
Late to the party, I'm sure, but as a Mac user I was and still am impressed with WinAMP's small footprint and ease-of-use. I've never been terribly impressed with iTunes. In 15 years there's never been as nice a bit of MP3 software to come down the pike.
 
2012-06-25 09:51:15 PM  
TommyymmoT 2012-06-25 02:45:25 PM

Kittypie070: WinAmp did funny things with my audio volume settings.
Never managed to find a solution.

Still have it anyway.


Start>control panel>sounds and audio devices>audio>sound playback>volume


I DID that. And did it and did it and did it AGAIN.
I screwed with it constantly and Winamp screwed with it right back.

It messes with something I couldn't find.

Thanks anyhow. :)
 
2012-06-25 09:53:00 PM  

Samwise Gamgee: pyrotek85:
This. I feel like I'm the only person who organizes music into folders by group/album. As others have said, I don't care about album art or even visualizations, I just let it play in the background.

I do the same. I buy all my music through Amazon these days, which conveniently downloads everything in MP3 format and automatically creates the folders and subfolders in the music folder of my choosing. I hate random play and always listen to music by the album, so I just open the folder and click 'play all'. I've never liked any sort of auto music management. I even use PowerAmp for my Android phone, which lets you view your music by folder instead of my tagged info.

I have a ton of old music I ripped myself ages ago anyway, none of it tagged or even named. Just 'track 1.mp3', 'track 2.mp3', etc. The folder is named after the album, of course, so I can find and play it easily... but any mp3 player software that tries to organize things by tag/filename is worthless for that.


Yup I remember I also had to do some searching to find a mobile player for android that let me select tracks by folder and not by tags. It's not that I don't see any value in tags, but I'm used to working with file names, I've always got several explorer windows open.
 
2012-06-25 10:00:06 PM  

DoBeDoBeDo: Wow they could have made that a MUCH shorter article:


How Winamp Disappeared Into Obscurity

AOL acquired the company in June 1999.


/Ta-da!


Yep. If you brush it aside from the pile, you could prolly find ICQ there as well.

/AOL, the death kiss to anything good.
 
2012-06-25 10:01:40 PM  
Do we need anymore people saying that they still use Winamp? Because I'll throw my name in the pot.

Lot of votes for foobar2000 in here, though, so I'm guessing that's alright then? Does it have a library? Or just playlists? Seems like I remember trying it at one point and gave up because it wanted me to manage everything through playlists. Pleh. I also seemed to remember it looked like it was designed by a slew of Geocities site owners, but maybe I'm thinking of something else.

I've also tried WMP a couple times, the new Vista/7 versions anyway, mostly as a way to reduce the number of things I have to install after a format. But I just can't get into it. It takes for frickin' ever to build the library the first time, with virtually no status info back to me that it's doing anything. Winamp churns through all of my 4500-ish songs in 2-3 minutes, and provides a "Done with X of Y" counter throughout the process. WMP just sits there with "Updating c:\...\Music" in the bottom corner, and I pretty much have to leave it running overnight. And even after that, it seems to miss songs, it pretty well tops out at 4000 or thereabouts and just ignores everything after that, with no rhyme or reason. And if I try to force add new songs to it, it seems to lose old songs to make room or something.
 
2012-06-25 10:11:07 PM  

MrEricSir: Dragonflew: iTunes is 170 megabytes? WHY? Is there sample music and movies and crap, or just horribly inefficient code?

Looks like it's mostly resource files (images and such) and special files (firmware?) for different iDevices. While I doubt the code is very efficient -- since iTunes is basically several apps poorly hacked into one window -- the binaries are a tiny portion of the overall file size.

It's also worth noting that WinAmp is now a 20 meg download.


They still maintain a Lite version on their page that is only 7 MB and it still does about anything you need to play music. The full version just adds useless stuff like CD burning, support for lots of video formats (who uses winamp for videos?), support for the Winamp 3 style modern skins which I never liked anyway, etc.
 
2012-06-25 10:20:43 PM  

Hand Banana: They still maintain a Lite version on their page that is only 7 MB and it still does about anything you need to play music. The full version just adds useless stuff like CD burning, support for lots of video formats (who uses winamp for videos?), support for the Winamp 3 style modern skins which I never liked anyway, etc.


True, but it seems like comparing the most basic version of WinAmp to iTunes isn't very meaningful. It's like apples and oranges... or um, apples and llamas, I guess.
 
2012-06-25 10:29:28 PM  
I'm glad I'm not the only one that still uses this little gem of a music player. Yeah, I buy music through ITunes, but Winamp knows all about iTunes these days and has no trouble handling even DRMed tracks.

Main reason I stick with it is the same as some of the previous posters mentioned: I can be running the most insanely processor bound, unstable, tweaked, and modded to all levels of hell game, yet Winamp just keeps chugging happily away. Other players like iTunes would have long since brought my rig to a screeching halt or crashed themselves if subjected to the same conditions.

Lightweight and reliable is all I ask for in a player, and Winamp still delivers.
 
2012-06-25 10:35:38 PM  

Kittypie070: TommyymmoT 2012-06-25 02:45:25 PM

Kittypie070: WinAmp did funny things with my audio volume settings.
Never managed to find a solution.

Still have it anyway.

Start>control panel>sounds and audio devices>audio>sound playback>volume

I DID that. And did it and did it and did it AGAIN.
I screwed with it constantly and Winamp screwed with it right back.

It messes with something I couldn't find.

Thanks anyhow. :)


Have you tryed "options>playback" in the Winamp menu.
Or you could always uninstall Winamp, and then reinstall it.
 
2012-06-25 10:42:49 PM  
Hey...I still use Winamp ...
 
2012-06-25 10:58:29 PM  

Creative Name: Winamp 2.92 still works fine for me.

 
2012-06-25 11:01:31 PM  
Winamp is still my MP3 player of choice...Itunes is a pain in the butt to use, Mediamonkey is pretty nice but, for some reason, I still prefer Winamp over it.
 
2012-06-25 11:04:16 PM  
OK, I must be an old fart AND a fuddy-duddy:

a) Still use Winamp, and have in fact used Winamp since the pre-AOL beta builds
b) Use Winamp as preferred player on Android
c) Only really use VLC as a secondary player for video files and foobar2000 for playing certain video-game formats that Winamp on 64-bit Win7 doesn't play well with re the DLLs required (PSF and PSF2 player plugins for Winamp work under 32-bit Win7 but not 64-bit Win7, but the equivalent foobar2000 plugins for PSF and PSF2 do work)
 
gad
2012-06-25 11:13:12 PM  
Aside from silly skins for which I don't find any that look that interesting - I use Winamp every day while still having and using iTunes. I appreciate the smaller program for playing a song or three. It does what it does and works. What's the problem?
 
2012-06-25 11:21:02 PM  

RichieLaw: downstairs: RichieLaw: downstairs: Grand_Moff_Joseph: I hardly use it now...mainly because I just bookmark YouTube videos with songs I want to listen to.

Funny you should say that. I just realized yesterday that I hardly listen to actual mp3 files any more. At least when I'm at home. Its so much easier just to type in a song name on a you tube search. And you get the benefit of finding live, cover, or rare versions of said song you'd never heard before.

I'm all about online streaming. The iheart radio app and pandora are awesome.

To some, yeah. I'm real specific about what I listen to though... so the randomness doesn't appeal to me. But that's just me... my wife uses pandora, and I think its awesome for most people. Seed it with a Black Crowes song, and you'll get hours of songs, of which you'll probably enjoy 90% of.

I'm more of a "I want to listen to this specific REM song"... "now I want to hear this specific Electric Six song", repeat ad naseum depending on how much vodak I've had.

Yeah, I see that. Its one reason why I like iheart radio as you can look up a song and it will play that one, and then songs that are like it.


Spotify.com
 
2012-06-25 11:21:04 PM  
I used WinAmp but stopped for some reason. I can't remember why exactly. I remember it was a very good reason.

Anyway I just use Foobar now.
 
2012-06-25 11:45:16 PM  
I always preferred MusicMatch Jukebox, until J. River Media Jukebox came along and iTunes effectively killed MusicMatch.

WinAmp always seemed like the Notepad to MusicMatch's WordPad, and J.River Media Jukebox/Media Center were MS Word to MusicMatch's WordPad.
 
2012-06-25 11:46:41 PM  
Winamp's on all of our computers, and has been for years. Clean design, no bloat. That's the problem with getting something right the first time in our economic model.
 
2012-06-25 11:57:38 PM  
MrEricSir: It's also worth noting that WinAmp is now a 20 meg download.

www.lordargent.com

// haven't used windows at home (except in a VM) for almost two years now ... still have installers for winamp just in case I ever get the urge to build another windows box.

// check the sweet file modification dates from 2002, I'm somewhat of a digital packrat.
 
2012-06-26 12:18:58 AM  
TommyymmoT 2012-06-25 10:35:38 PM

Kittypie070: TommyymmoT 2012-06-25 02:45:25 PM

Kittypie070: WinAmp did funny things with my audio volume settings.
Never managed to find a solution.

Still have it anyway.

Start>control panel>sounds and audio devices>audio>sound playback>volume

I DID that. And did it and did it and did it AGAIN.
I screwed with it constantly and Winamp screwed with it right back.

It messes with something I couldn't find.

Thanks anyhow. :)


Have you tryed "options>playback" in the Winamp menu.
Or you could always uninstall Winamp, and then reinstall it.


*blinks stoopidly*

Dunno. It's been a few years really. I should go fiddle with that one. Thanks again. :3
 
2012-06-26 12:22:51 AM  

RexTalionis: If you used pre-AOL WinAmp, you're an old, old person.

I do miss the old WinAmp, though. However, it suffered badly from feature creep and then stagnation after AOL's acquisition. I switched from WinAmp to foobar2000, and now, I just use my phone for music.


QFT. foobar2000 is the go-to player for computers. It supports every format imaginable and has very low overhead. It's not gorgeous the way old-school WA could be with skins, but it how much time do you actually spend looking at your audio player?
 
2012-06-26 12:24:35 AM  
I must be missing something with FooBar. I tried it a year ago and ditched it right away. I tried loading my entire music library in one shot (over 200k mp3s) into a playlist and after waiting ten minutes for it to load up, I just killed the app. With WinAmp, it just takes about 45 seconds or so to load the entire thing.
 
2012-06-26 12:31:55 AM  
When it came to finding .mp3 files, this thing:

upload.wikimedia.org

paid off like a slot machine.
 
2012-06-26 12:36:54 AM  

lordargent: MrEricSir: It's also worth noting that WinAmp is now a 20 meg download.

[www.lordargent.com image 640x224]

// haven't used windows at home (except in a VM) for almost two years now ... still have installers for winamp just in case I ever get the urge to build another windows box.

// check the sweet file modification dates from 2002, I'm somewhat of a digital packrat.


WINE is thy friend.

/Never tried to run WinAMP on Wine, so I cant say how well it works (if it works at all)
 
2012-06-26 12:42:28 AM  

homarjr:
The original iPod was an ok mp3 player at best. The Zune was a better product. Creative Labs made a great product too, from what I remember.


Zune wasn't around to compete with the original 5Gb iPod, it wouldn't appear for another 2 - 3 years in fact (by which time it's superiority was a moot point as the world have brought iPod's at that point). You're going to have to go back to Diamond Rio's, early Nomads and the like. Which did actually suck balls, once you remove the rose tinted specs and look at them you realise that the flash based devices had practically zero storage for songs (a Rio could hold what? 10 or 12 max?) the cheap bring-your-own-MMC/SD ones could be quite fussy or insist on an expensive, propriety format... like Memory Stick and the HDD based ones often didn't have anything approaching a decent battery life; when you found one that did.. it's UI sucked balls.

In fact, having tinkered with such things in the past it's safe to assume none of them were really designed to be used on the move.... which is farking weird for a portable music player.
 
2012-06-26 12:46:39 AM  
using Winamp right now to listen to a defunct amusement ride soundtrack.

screw windows media player and itunes.
 
2012-06-26 12:46:47 AM  

RexTalionis: If you used pre-AOL WinAmp, you're an old, old person.

I do miss the old WinAmp, though. However, it suffered badly from feature creep and then stagnation after AOL's acquisition. I switched from WinAmp to foobar2000, and now, I just use my phone for music.


I still use WinAmp for podcasts and net radio, it's still got a few bugs but I havent found any player that has the stunning visualizations that WinAmp has by default
 
2012-06-26 12:48:43 AM  
As this thread and the comments on the site demonstrate, everyone still uses Winamp, including myself. The author of this article is just out of touch.
 
2012-06-26 12:59:30 AM  

lordargent: // check the sweet file modification dates from 2002, I'm somewhat of a digital packrat.


I am a digital packrat. (piles of shiny stuff to root through)
You sir/Ma'am, are a digital anal-retentive librarian. (and I am super jealous)
 
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