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2012-06-25 04:16:21 PM  

way south: Q: What happened to Winamp?
A: AOL.
(No, I don't need to read the article.)


That's fundamentally what it says, but it doesn't say exactly what, though. "Internal politics..."

WTF does that mean?
 
2012-06-25 04:17:08 PM  

Naesen: Winamp beats the hell out of google music on android.


This is very true, but Google Music on Android can be operated on a phone that is otherwise locked, a feature I really wish WinAmp for Android had.

Anyway, WinAmp works great and doesn't choke and die on huge music collections or make assumptions about how I'd like my music to be organized. I like that it treats the library component as optional. It has a simple plug-in architecture if you're someone who occasionally deals with unusual file formats.

I use it more or less daily on Windows computers and Android devices.
 
2012-06-25 04:17:19 PM  
I dumped WinAMP the minute I discovered Foobar2000 and the ColumnsUI extension. It is the primary reason I installed WINE under Linux and BSD.
 
2012-06-25 04:17:56 PM  

homarjr: The black silhouettes dancing with the white headphones is one of the greatests marketing campaigns in history, and it made a piece of shiate hardware into the mainstream.


I think you're full of shiat.

I think the ipod was well designed. Secondly, it's advertised in a lot more different ways than just that stupid commercial. I mean, I never watched it, I still got an ipod, eventually.

I think you're just confusing Apple advertising an mp3 player AT ALL with them making a good commercial. To date, ipods are the ONLY mp3 player I've seen advertised anywhere with an actual TV commercial. That doesn't mean the commercial was good. If only one person shows up for a sport match, they win by default.
 
2012-06-25 04:18:46 PM  
Hell, I've got a co-worker that's on Windows 7 and STILL using Winamp. Which can't be that uncommon, being that the article starts with a picture of Winamp playing "Ben Folds Five - Do It Anyway", which has only just been released this year.
 
2012-06-25 04:19:21 PM  
I use the hell out of WinAmp.
It's also got the great feature of being able to play the microphone as a URL.

As a video artist / VJ, this gives me the ability to key a buttload of different interactive visual programs to the sound program either right out of the air, or on a hard line.

Milkdrop and Smoke are 2 of my favorites.

fark I-tunes. Seriously. Winamp just works.
 
2012-06-25 04:19:29 PM  

homarjr: They blame AOL? Could be true.

I think the iPod is what did them in though. The black silhouettes dancing with the white headphones is one of the greatests marketing campaigns in history, and it made a piece of shiate hardware into the mainstream. And you needed iTunes to use it.

I really believe that Apple could still be nothing today without those white headphones. There were a million MP3 players out there, but they made it fashionable to own theirs.


No - they made an MP3 player that wasn't an absolute piece of shiat. I had a Creative Nomad jukebox when it first came out, the thing was the size of 2 portable cd players, slow as shiat with a horrible UI. Hate on Apple all you want but with the Ipod I could control every single function from my pocket with one finger. Yes there were a lot of dumbasses that bought one for the shiny white earbuds, but it blew the competition out of the water at the time.
 
2012-06-25 04:20:05 PM  
I came into the thread to say "Hey subby, i still use Winamp on a daily basis. It's a neat program that does exactly what it supposed to with no bloatware or bullshiat. It's perfect. fark iTunes or whatever other piece of shiat program is out there."

But then I read the thread and I gotta say:

I love you guys :)
 
2012-06-25 04:20:11 PM  
I miss all of those classic Winamp visualizations using your computer's 3D PROCESSORS!

Seriously, some of them were great.
 
2012-06-25 04:22:28 PM  
Winamp all the way.
(and, I'm 56 - totally grey beard, almost no hair now)...

I absolutely hate iTunes., and refuse to install it.
 
2012-06-25 04:22:34 PM  
What would I replace it with?
 
2012-06-25 04:22:50 PM  
WinAmp is still one of the best back-end programs for powering computer-based karaoke systems
 
2012-06-25 04:23:01 PM  

socodog: I use the hell out of WinAmp.

fark I-tunes. Seriously. Winamp just works.


That and it not being bloatware, as someone else mentioned, sums it up for me.
 
2012-06-25 04:23:05 PM  

Perlin Noise: Um ...huh? I still use the shiat out of winamp....

iTunes is for suckers...


Same. In fact, using it right now.
 
2012-06-25 04:23:12 PM  
I still use WinAmp, its a great lightweight program that just flipping works for what is supposed to do. Native FLAC support is a bonus as well. I used it on my droid phone until play came out.
 
2012-06-25 04:23:40 PM  

doglover: homarjr: The black silhouettes dancing with the white headphones is one of the greatests marketing campaigns in history, and it made a piece of shiate hardware into the mainstream.

I think you're full of shiat.

I think the ipod was well designed. Secondly, it's advertised in a lot more different ways than just that stupid commercial. I mean, I never watched it, I still got an ipod, eventually.

I think you're just confusing Apple advertising an mp3 player AT ALL with them making a good commercial. To date, ipods are the ONLY mp3 player I've seen advertised anywhere with an actual TV commercial. That doesn't mean the commercial was good. If only one person shows up for a sport match, they win by default.


The original iPod was an ok mp3 player at best. The Zune was a better product. Creative Labs made a great product too, from what I remember.

But those commercials are what turned Apple around. Everyone basically had to own an iPod because having anything else was ridiculous. You couldn't lend your friend any other mp3 player without having to teach them how to use it first.

And yes, that does mean those commercials were good. The fact that no one else could do it means they're better than good.
 
2012-06-25 04:23:51 PM  
I can't be bothered to sort through my MP3s anymore.
Pandora FTW.
 
2012-06-25 04:24:14 PM  
Still my default media player, and still my fave.
 
2012-06-25 04:24:42 PM  

staplermofo: I'm listening to shoutcast right now. It's pretty nice.
I still remember the joy of finding out that winamp could play my mp2s when I switched to half duplex. They were so much smaller than aiffs.


I remember being able to use WinAMP to play all of my songs on my IPod before Steve Jobs pitched a fit and stopped that.
 
2012-06-25 04:24:44 PM  
Have iTunes, but still use WinAmp when I am just listening to (previewing) single files and don't see the need to boot up my whole library (especially when the file I am listening to is not in my library).

Also have WinAmp on my phone.
 
2012-06-25 04:24:50 PM  

Rent Party: way south: Q: What happened to Winamp?
A: AOL.
(No, I don't need to read the article.)


That's fundamentally what it says, but it doesn't say exactly what, though. "Internal politics..."

WTF does that mean?


WinAMP programmer: OK, we've got the IP on this awesome software. What cool stuff do you want us to do with it now?

AOL pinhead: Trailblaze inventive new paradigms wherein monetization opportunities are maximized vis-a-vis revenue-enhancing streams spanning myriad networks while maintaining mind-forwarding of AOL branding.

WinAMP programmer: *eats a gun*
 
2012-06-25 04:25:20 PM  
I use Foobar, and I'm kind of surprised to see no one else has mentioned it so far.

The "Discogs Tagger" plug-in is the greatest godsend known to music trainspotters.
 
2012-06-25 04:25:20 PM  
>2012
>not using Foobar 2k in WASAPI mode for maximum fidelity

I seriously hope you guys don't do this.
 
2012-06-25 04:26:06 PM  

RexTalionis: If you used pre-AOL WinAmp, you're an old, old person.


Hey now! I turned 37 today. Lets not rub it in with specifics, m'kay?
 
2012-06-25 04:26:23 PM  

Glitchwerks: I use Foobar, and I'm kind of surprised to see no one else has mentioned it so far.

The "Discogs Tagger" plug-in is the greatest godsend known to music trainspotters.


>exact post time down to the second

Whoa. I know kung fu.
 
2012-06-25 04:26:34 PM  
I still use it at work, because they don't allow me to stream anything, video, audio, nothing.
 
2012-06-25 04:26:41 PM  
Winamp 2.92 still works fine for me.
 
2012-06-25 04:27:11 PM  

BKITU: WinAMP programmer: OK, we've got the IP on this awesome software. What cool stuff do you want us to do with it now?

AOL pinhead: Trailblaze inventive new paradigms wherein monetization opportunities are maximized vis-a-vis revenue-enhancing streams spanning myriad networks while maintaining mind-forwarding of AOL branding.

WinAMP programmer: *eats a gun* Takes the month off, cashes paychecks.


FIFY
 
2012-06-25 04:27:40 PM  

dj_bigbird: Other than iTunes, I'm not sure there is a competitor for playing MP3s on PCs. I've used Winamp forever.


Ditto here until the itunes cartel finally broke me
 
2012-06-25 04:28:11 PM  
I still have it, and use it. Whats the problem?
 
2012-06-25 04:28:22 PM  
Windows Media Player and Pandora for music.
Windows Media Player and VLC for video.

I like to keep it simple.
 
2012-06-25 04:28:51 PM  

homarjr: They blame AOL? Could be true.

I think the iPod is what did them in though. The black silhouettes dancing with the white headphones is one of the greatests marketing campaigns in history, and it made a piece of shiate hardware into the mainstream. And you needed iTunes to use it.

I really believe that Apple could still be nothing today without those white headphones. There were a million MP3 players out there, but they made it fashionable to own theirs.


Theirs also stored a hell of a lot more music than anyone else's at the time. The Zune is still the only real rival in that regard.

Promoting it made it go big quickly, but it was genuinely better than anything else around. It would never have gone so big if the actual player was crap.
 
2012-06-25 04:29:02 PM  

DeltaPunch: Still use it. The smaller, black classic skin. Volume/pan/track info at the top, EQ in the middle, playlist at the bottom. No browser plugins, no libraries, no toolbar controls/agents. Just the good old-fashioned player. Whooop.


Same here.
 
2012-06-25 04:29:15 PM  
I still use Winamp because, fark iTunes, WMP, and anything else.
 
2012-06-25 04:29:36 PM  

rhiannon: DeltaPunch: Still use it. The smaller, black classic skin. Volume/pan/track info at the top, EQ in the middle, playlist at the bottom. No browser plugins, no libraries, no toolbar controls/agents. Just the good old-fashioned player. Whooop.

Same here.


Same.
 
2012-06-25 04:31:13 PM  
I still use it because, AFAIK, its EQ is better than the one in iTunes.
 
2012-06-25 04:31:33 PM  

make me some tea: Wow. What a bunch of farking idiots at AOL. I stopped using WinAMP a long time ago when it seems to get too commercialized. I never realized that's what went down with it though.

I've been using VideoLAN for pretty much everything for several years now.


This. VLC pretty much replaced WinAMP for anything that I don't want to play on iTunes.
 
2012-06-25 04:32:09 PM  
Count me in as another person who still uses winamp. I stick on a USB drive, it lets me have easy control of my playlist with keyboard quick keys on whatever machine I'm having to use. It copies a couple "settings" files into the windows profile system but otherwise you can just copy the main directory wherever and it works flawlessly.

That said, I may not be using it for much longer. I will probably upgrade to a smartphone, so I can listen to music while I'm not a computer. Also for an FM radio (for local news) and internet radio (for broadening my library).

My only minor concern about it is that the version I'm using is so blasted old, I wouldn't be surprised if it had vulnerabilities that could be exploited. For the same reason that I don't use IE6 to browse (even when it might be my only option, as - for example - at work), I don't use it to steam off the net and I disable the internet connection in the program.
 
2012-06-25 04:34:00 PM  

homarjr: They blame AOL? Could be true.

I think the iPod is what did them in though. The black silhouettes dancing with the white headphones is one of the greatests marketing campaigns in history, and it made a piece of shiate hardware into the mainstream. And you needed iTunes to use it.

I really believe that Apple could still be nothing today without those white headphones. There were a million MP3 players out there, but they made it fashionable to own theirs.


Give it to Apple for that. I hate the fact that iTunes is bloatware, but their marketing campaign is nothing short of genius.
 
2012-06-25 04:34:39 PM  

downstairs: RexTalionis: If you used pre-AOL WinAmp, you're an old, old person.

Hey now! I turned 37 today. Lets not rub it in with specifics, m'kay?


Happy birthday ya old farker!
 
2012-06-25 04:36:02 PM  
I still use it. Great clean interface. Small screen space, loads quickly.
 
2012-06-25 04:36:31 PM  

cptjeff: homarjr: They blame AOL? Could be true.

I think the iPod is what did them in though. The black silhouettes dancing with the white headphones is one of the greatests marketing campaigns in history, and it made a piece of shiate hardware into the mainstream. And you needed iTunes to use it.

I really believe that Apple could still be nothing today without those white headphones. There were a million MP3 players out there, but they made it fashionable to own theirs.

Theirs also stored a hell of a lot more music than anyone else's at the time. The Zune is still the only real rival in that regard.

Promoting it made it go big quickly, but it was genuinely better than anything else around. It would never have gone so big if the actual player was crap.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the first iPod not even have the capability of making playlists?

I guess I shouldn't have said it was a "piece of shiate hardware", but I never remember it being the best by any means from a tech standpoint. I owned a few other players that I thought were better before I felt stupid for not having an iPod while everyone else did.

And now I'm finding it strange that I seem to be alone......

/sad face
 
2012-06-25 04:36:51 PM  
I only listen to wax cylinders on a phonograph. Can't wait for that new Al Jolson album!
 
kab
2012-06-25 04:36:56 PM  

RexTalionis: If you used pre-AOL WinAmp, you're an old, old person.


That was in '99. You have a bizarre definition of 'old old'.
 
2012-06-25 04:37:01 PM  
Why you should be using WASAPI mode in Winamp or Foobar2k, the tl;dr:

Directsound = Audio data => windows kernel => DAC => X => your ears

WASAPI = Audio data => DAC => X => your ears

Increased audio fidelity is achieved by skipping the windows kernel and pumping unaltered audio data straight to your DAC. You need a plugin for WASAPI support in both media players, but setup is pretty easy. You won't believe the difference in sound quality if you have decent playback equipment!

I also recommend using a USB DAC (the Fiio E10 is a great entry-level DAC at $80) to isolate your audio signal from your computer's internal electronics if your current soundcard has any static noise during playback.
 
2012-06-25 04:37:13 PM  

homarjr: The original iPod was an ok mp3 player at best. The Zune was a better product. Creative Labs made a great product too, from what I remember.


The original iPod was actually a piece of shiat niche device. The only thing it had going for it was that apple traded off space for reliability by giving it a laptop hard drive. For you guys who remember the iPod as always being great, you're really glossing over the first gen variants. They were firewire only, had no windows support whatsoever, and a host of hardware issues.
 
2012-06-25 04:37:15 PM  

WinAMP became bloatware... updates all the time, sucking PC resources like they were going out of style.

Worse, they somehow screwed up one of the redeeming features: Dragging folders into the list sorted it by PATH name, but at some point, they stopped doing that, and worse, included every little file on the planet (including text files, and other misc format files). I just want a simple player that organizes MP3s the way I've already organized them.

foobar2000 for the win, now...

i.imgur.com

 
2012-06-25 04:37:18 PM  
I use winamp exclusively, I even send music to my ipod with it. No way I'll ever use that POS itunes.
 
2012-06-25 04:40:01 PM  
I blame AOl and the whole file format crap.
 
2012-06-25 04:40:42 PM  

Cythraul: I actually still use it. Does that make me un-hip?


This....and I have a cool Marshall skin that makes it look like a head and cab!
 
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