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2012-06-25 10:35:08 AM
Woooo! 20/22
The @#$%ing that or which questions screwed me.
 
2012-06-25 10:42:21 AM

staplermofo: Woooo! 20/22
The @#$%ing that or which questions screwed me.


You mean it was those @#$%ing that or which questions which screwed you.

/me too
 
2012-06-25 10:49:32 AM
Me three. I used to know these things.
 
2012-06-25 10:57:06 AM
I counted over 6 grammar mistakes in the article on the Wall Street Journal. That woman abuses those poor commas.
 
2012-06-25 11:00:03 AM

palladiate: I counted over 6 grammar mistakes in the article on the Wall Street Journal. That woman abuses those poor commas.


How many over 6? Don't keep us in suspense.
 
2012-06-25 11:56:46 AM
I guess I fail because I can't find the quiz.
 
2012-06-25 01:41:37 PM

staplermofo: palladiate: I counted over 6 grammar mistakes in the article on the Wall Street Journal. That woman abuses those poor commas.

How many over 6? Don't keep us in suspense.


Lesser then 10.
 
2012-06-25 01:43:08 PM
22/22...and I thought it was easy.
 
2012-06-25 01:43:15 PM

Happy Hours: I guess I fail because I can't find the quiz.


LOL. Your day will come, Charlie Brown.
 
2012-06-25 01:44:32 PM
That was humbling. And I am normally good at these.
 
2012-06-25 01:45:39 PM
19/22. That's an A at the University I went to!
 
2012-06-25 01:47:25 PM

staplermofo: Woooo! 20/22
The @#$%ing that or which questions screwed me.


The preceding comma is what I use to distinguish the two. Don't know if that's right, but it worked.

It was a well-written quiz. I thought it'd be a joke, but it was actually kind of difficult. As difficult as a grammar quiz can be anyway.....
 
2012-06-25 01:47:59 PM
20/22. I missed a between and a that.
 
2012-06-25 01:52:10 PM
17/22, what do I lose? :(

children's,affect/effect, blah.
 
2012-06-25 01:52:21 PM
i don't understand the that/which distinction.
 
2012-06-25 01:54:05 PM
17/22
Missed one due to skimming the sentence early on and the principle/principal got me twice. I'm allowed to suck at grammar because it isn't my primary language. I wouldn't have made some of the errors if I was allowed to type them myself. Doing things on auto pilot is easier than having to pick from a set of options
 
2012-06-25 01:55:57 PM

Balchinian: 22/22...and I thought it was easy.


A kindred spirit. WTG!
 
2012-06-25 02:01:05 PM
I am not sure what part of this Grammar nit pickers don't get but Orthography is traditionally not part of Grammar. If you are going to pick on people for failing to use traditional grammar then I am going to pick on you for not using the traditional definition of grammar.

While I would agree correct grammar makes a sentence easier to understand, it only rarely makes it unintelligible. However if you are using words that don't mean what you think they mean, then you sentence doesn't mean what you think it means.
 
2012-06-25 02:02:13 PM
I think all the modmin's should take it and pubicly post they're score. Submit'd head lines have to many airs.
 
2012-06-25 02:02:16 PM

staplermofo: Woooo! 20/22
The @#$%ing that or which questions screwed me.


Same here.

19/22

They shouldn't have multiple questions about the same words. It's a little unfair.


Surprised the didn't have:

"we went over to Chris'/Chris's house".

That's one people get wrong all the time.
 
2012-06-25 02:04:47 PM
If you managed to complete elementary school, you should be able to get a 100%.
 
2012-06-25 02:04:52 PM

van1ty: i don't understand the that/which distinction.


"that" without a comma, "which" after one
 
2012-06-25 02:05:43 PM
20/22. Missed two "which or that" questions. I need to review that rule.
 
2012-06-25 02:05:48 PM
23/22. I got the extra credit question at the end that got cut off by the copy machine.
 
2012-06-25 02:10:45 PM
 
2012-06-25 02:11:01 PM
10/22

Isn't this the place where we all get ribbon's or some crap for participating?
 
2012-06-25 02:12:28 PM

Hikeeba: If you managed to complete elementary school, you should be able to get a 100%.


A stunning number of youtube denizens accomplished that feat, and I imagine that if you passed this test out to that group of people they'd fail it miserably.

Grammar is a matter of attention to detail. Hence why some of us on this site will miss a question because we didn't read the sentence carefully enough. I missed two because I didn't recall the that/which rule.

For a counter-argument, many of those sentences would easily be readable and nobody (except perhaps the most hardened grammar-nazis) would come to a screeching halt if I wrote "a childrens' play" instead of "a children's play". So all the whinging about grammar is useless unless it starts to affect comprehension.
 
2012-06-25 02:12:30 PM
22/22

I got lucky on the which/that question. It was a coin toss.

Cookie, please.
 
2012-06-25 02:13:16 PM

Parthenogenetic: Treygreen13: 20/22. Missed two "which or that" questions. I need to review that rule.

From the New York Times stylebook:

that, which. Use that, not which, in a restrictive clause - a clause necessary to the reader's understanding of the sentence: The town that the pitcher calls home is tiny Hawley, Pa. (The sentence serves no purpose without that the pitcher calls home.) Note that there are no commas around the clause.

In a nonrestrictive clause - one providing added information, not essential to understand the sentence - use which, preceded by a comma: Hawley, Pa., which the pitcher calls home, is tiny. (The sentence is understandable without which the pitcher calls home.)


Thanks for the refresher!
 
2012-06-25 02:16:06 PM
too easy.
 
2012-06-25 02:27:15 PM
20/22, and one of the two I got wrong was a stupid mis-click on my part.
 
2012-06-25 02:30:22 PM
22/22.

Judicial writer.
 
2012-06-25 02:30:58 PM
19.
 
2012-06-25 02:32:31 PM
22/22 because I am perfect in every way
 
2012-06-25 02:32:57 PM
20/22. I got lazy and comprehended the children's play and building fire questions wrong.
 
2012-06-25 02:33:10 PM
Meh, grammar is just style in jack-boots.
 
2012-06-25 02:35:21 PM
20/22. The which and that got me as well.
 
2012-06-25 02:35:21 PM

Treygreen13: For a counter-argument, many of those sentences would easily be readable and nobody (except perhaps the most hardened grammar-nazis) would come to a screeching halt if I wrote "a childrens' play" instead of "a children's play". So all the whinging about grammar is useless unless it starts to affect comprehension.



But they're only readable because of our cognitive ability to process the words in context (like that paragraph claiming you can raed anyhting as lnog as the fisrt and last lettres are in the smae positoin).

I pretty sure my brain would just transform [childrens'] into [children's], because the former isn't even a word. Either that, or I'd assume you were in a hurry when typing. But if you used "childrens" as the plural of children ("the ______ looked happy playing in the park"), I'd most definitely stop, and think you were an idiot.

/Although, really, I began two separate sentences above with "But", so who am I to talk?
 
2012-06-25 02:41:52 PM

Treygreen13: 20/22. Missed two "which or that" questions. I need to review that rule.


Same here. I now wish the test had been more extensive. There's always room for improvement.
 
2012-06-25 02:41:58 PM
imgs.xkcd.com

I'm pretty sure existing moods can be affected, and that moods that did not previously exist can be effected. Just saying.
 
2012-06-25 02:42:43 PM

Loomy: But they're only readable because of our cognitive ability to process the words in context (like that paragraph claiming you can raed anyhting as lnog as the fisrt and last lettres are in the smae positoin).


This, in turn, comes in no small part from our mastery of the language, including -you guessed it- the grammar. The only real for not getting it right is not having mastered the language yet; if you claim to know it then you have no excuse.
 
2012-06-25 02:43:39 PM
Some of the apostrophe questions be either answer? Context is important.
 
2012-06-25 02:46:52 PM

DAHFreedom: I'm pretty sure existing moods can be affected, and that moods that did not previously exist can be effected. Just saying.


You might say it's a question of affect.
 
2012-06-25 02:49:51 PM
20/22

I'm another victim of the that/which questions.

English is my second language but it is much easier to answer those kind of questions than it is to write a paragraph without errors.
 
2012-06-25 02:51:58 PM
16/22? What the hell, man?
 
2012-06-25 02:56:42 PM

TheDumbBlonde: Me three. I used to know these things.


Should that not read "those things", as the subject is implied (distant) rather than stated (close)?
That is actually a genuine question, by the way. I'm not trying to be particularly pedantic in a grammar thread, although I would be if I was sure that is the case.


/ obviously I'm letting "Me three" slip as it is a humorous pun.
// an embarrassing 19/22 due to the which/that trap and a brain fart when I hit the wrong answer knowing it was wrong.
 
2012-06-25 02:59:57 PM
That/which, and one stupid principal, all in cahoots to screw my score.

Still, 19/22 is better than the average American. I'll hold it over THEIR heads.
 
2012-06-25 03:10:32 PM

Loomy: Treygreen13: For a counter-argument, many of those sentences would easily be readable and nobody (except perhaps the most hardened grammar-nazis) would come to a screeching halt if I wrote "a childrens' play" instead of "a children's play". So all the whinging about grammar is useless unless it starts to affect comprehension.


But they're only readable because of our cognitive ability to process the words in context (like that paragraph claiming you can raed anyhting as lnog as the fisrt and last lettres are in the smae positoin).

I pretty sure my brain would just transform [childrens'] into [children's], because the former isn't even a word. Either that, or I'd assume you were in a hurry when typing. But if you used "childrens" as the plural of children ("the ______ looked happy playing in the park"), I'd most definitely stop, and think you were an idiot.

/Although, really, I began two separate sentences above with "But", so who am I to talk?


The proper term is "Chillens".
 
2012-06-25 03:11:01 PM
17/22

D:
 
2012-06-25 03:13:32 PM
19/22

Got screwed on "that/which" questions, as well as "among/between." Oops. Guess I can't call myself a grammar nazi anymore :(
 
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