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2012-06-25 09:57:00 AM
I think the SCOTUS may finally allow Florida to resume the recount.
 
2012-06-25 09:59:05 AM
Just to be contrary they're going to release their decision Friday at 5:00. They will rule that the government has not right to do anything and it must be dissolved.

Then the justices will hop in the SCOTUSCOPTER and fly away to their secluded island lair.
 
2012-06-25 10:01:56 AM
This headline has the taint of a wrestling thread.
 
2012-06-25 10:03:25 AM
They will rule 5 to 4 that Obama is a poopie head.
 
2012-06-25 10:08:07 AM
Whatever they decide, that particular cast of characters should be enough to raise John Marshall from the dead to skull-f*ck each and every one of them.
 
2012-06-25 10:10:15 AM
 
2012-06-25 10:20:25 AM
No HCR decision today.
 
2012-06-25 10:21:49 AM
Arizona v U.S. decision. Link, .pdf
 
2012-06-25 10:24:15 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: No HCR decision today.


If I ran CNN, I would hire you. You seem to be about 2 hours ahead of them on most reporting.
 
2012-06-25 10:26:09 AM

mrshowrules: If I ran CNN, I would hire you. You seem to be about 2 hours ahead of them on most reporting.


Heh. Much like CNN, I rely on twitter. In terms of speed of news, it beats everyone hands down.
 
2012-06-25 10:26:30 AM
In a rare double-whammy decision, the Supreme Court will declare polygamy legal.
 
2012-06-25 10:26:46 AM
thismomentinblackhistory

This headline has the taint of a wrestling thread.



What's a taint?


/I love this joke
 
2012-06-25 10:27:05 AM
Yup, this isn't a stupid, biased, troll-baiting headline at all.
 
2012-06-25 10:27:33 AM
are they going to decided on the military medals today too, because I think that's what is most important
 
2012-06-25 10:27:47 AM
They will rule like they always do, that the Federal government has effectively unlimited power when it comes to making laws and regulations. This is a broad bipartisan position.
 
2012-06-25 10:28:08 AM

Mrs.Sharpier: are they going to decided on the military medals today too, because I think that's what is most important



FTFM
 
2012-06-25 10:28:17 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: mrshowrules: If I ran CNN, I would hire you. You seem to be about 2 hours ahead of them on most reporting.

Heh. Much like CNN, I rely on twitter. In terms of speed of news, it beats everyone hands down.


And what about depth or accuracy? Thats what matters to me in the paper and in the bedroom.
 
2012-06-25 10:28:26 AM
FTFA: Ilya Shapiro, a constitutional scholar at the libertarian Cato Institute, said the government is to blame for "outlandish claims of federal power" that the court was correct to reject.

Hopefully they'll rule that the Cato Institute is a treasonous organization an burn their headquarters to the ground by the close of day, sacrificing Justice Thomas on the burning pyre.

/a boy can dream
 
2012-06-25 10:29:40 AM

Mrs.Sharpier: are they going to decided on the military medals today too, because I think that's what is most important


The SCOTUS blog said something like "and reading our last blah blah blah is Kennedy" (I think it was Kennedy). They haven't said it was the last thing officially, but given the previous statement...no HCR today.
 
2012-06-25 10:29:52 AM

Fluorescent Testicle: Yup, this isn't a stupid, biased, troll-baiting headline at all.


It's not news, it's Troll.com
 
2012-06-25 10:29:59 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Arizona v U.S. decision. Link, .pdf


If I'm reading that right (and I may not be) they overturned the AZ law and threw a dig in about how the government can chose if they want to deport people at all, basically backing up the DREAM act thing Obama just did.
 
2012-06-25 10:30:07 AM

bdMurray: And what about depth or accuracy? Thats what matters to me in the paper and in the bedroom.


The links from twitter provide the depth. As for accuracy, that's something to be mindful of no matter the source.
 
2012-06-25 10:30:20 AM
SCOTUS ruled 5-4 without oral argument that the Montana case challenging Citizens United v. FEC was wrong.
 
2012-06-25 10:30:48 AM
Justice Scalia would uphold the Arizona statute in toto.

There's a shocker.

Thanks for providing all 7 pages of your dissent to the public and reading every last sentence. We know you feel strongly about it.
 
2012-06-25 10:31:17 AM

Serious Black: SCOTUS ruled 5-4 without oral argument that the Montana case challenging Citizens United v. FEC was wrong.


I liked this part from Breyer's dissent:

"Thus, Montana's experience, like considerable experience elsewhere since the Court's decision in Citizens United, casts grave doubt on the Court's supposition that independent expenditures do not corrupt or appear to do so."
 
2012-06-25 10:31:49 AM

qorkfiend: Serious Black: SCOTUS ruled 5-4 without oral argument that the Montana case challenging Citizens United v. FEC was wrong.

I liked this part from Breyer's dissent:

"Thus, Montana's experience, like considerable experience elsewhere since the Court's decision in Citizens United, casts grave doubt on the Court's supposition that independent expenditures do not corrupt or appear to do so."


is there a link to that?
 
2012-06-25 10:32:21 AM
SCOTUS will do what's best for the American people as usual.
 
2012-06-25 10:32:25 AM

James!: Dusk-You-n-Me: Arizona v U.S. decision. Link, .pdf

If I'm reading that right (and I may not be) they overturned the AZ law and threw a dig in about how the government can chose if they want to deport people at all, basically backing up the DREAM act thing Obama just did.


Yeah, based on my cursory skim of the opinion, the only measure that the majority upheld was allowing Arizona to check the immigration status of people that they have already arrested since that didn't violate federal supremacy of immigration law.
 
2012-06-25 10:32:30 AM
SCOTUS just ruled 5-4 that Picard was better than Kirk
 
2012-06-25 10:32:33 AM
Sheriff Joe's brown shirts fanning out to round up illegals in 3, 2, 1...
 
2012-06-25 10:32:52 AM

Mrs.Sharpier: is there a link to that?


Link, .pdf
 
2012-06-25 10:32:52 AM
Just checking in to get an early seat for what has the potential to be an epic troll thread. So, who do you guys think will put in an appearance first?
 
2012-06-25 10:33:03 AM
Scalia will decide which ever way he thinks will damage Obama's reelection chances, I'm all but certain, despite whatever previously held beliefs he may have expressed. And Clarence Thomas will just follow him like Pedobear following a hot 5 year old.
 
2012-06-25 10:33:15 AM
Regarding the healthcare bill, it is mammoth and if SCOTUS decides to toss ALL of it out it will be worse for the GOP in my opinion. There is a LOT of stuff in that bill that is very bipartisan and necessary changes that we need. Obama will showcase the things with the greatest universal appeal and point at them to say see this, this is what the GOP has been trying to stop. They want children/elderly/etc to suffer and die for no logical reason other than a few extra dollars for greedy companies. They will pull out the things that even the GOP base wants out of it and throw it in faces of every republican that has been running on anti-obamacare. This is why quite a few of the GOP leaders are asking their folks not to gloat if it is overturned, it will be worse for them in the long run because their "victory" will paint them in a bad light, or as the democrates like to say "on the wrong side of history"

It will work because people in general are idiots.
 
2012-06-25 10:33:22 AM
Not to worry. I'm sure that Chief Justice Roberts, who was installed to do very specific things, will do them.
 
2012-06-25 10:33:43 AM
Arizona laws will be overturned, by at least 6-3.

Individual mandate will be upheld, although the Medicare requirements imposed on the states may be overturned. Decision will be 6-3 or 7-2.

Why? Follow the money. There are big profits in having a cheap workforce you can exploit, that can't file disability claims, harassment claims, etc.

And insurance companies profit tremendously from the individual mandate.

Now ignore the little man behind the curtain and move along, people.
 
2012-06-25 10:33:57 AM
thismomentinblackhistory: This headline has the taint of a wrestling thread.

I expect a certain image to be linked her in reaction to that comment any second, now.

Aaaaaaany second...see!! Red!! No, wait, that's blood..
 
2012-06-25 10:34:10 AM

Mrs.Sharpier: qorkfiend: Serious Black: SCOTUS ruled 5-4 without oral argument that the Montana case challenging Citizens United v. FEC was wrong.

I liked this part from Breyer's dissent:

"Thus, Montana's experience, like considerable experience elsewhere since the Court's decision in Citizens United, casts grave doubt on the Court's supposition that independent expenditures do not corrupt or appear to do so."

is there a link to that?


Here you go. Short and sweet. Less than one page per curiam for the court's finding, one and a half pages for the dissent.
 
2012-06-25 10:35:47 AM
Mrs.Sharpier: are they going to decided on the military medals today too, because I think that's what is most important

Beer and NASCAR, too. Gotta keep the plebs in line!!
 
2012-06-25 10:35:49 AM
This makes for good live TV: pundits trying to analyze a decision in real-time as they read it on the air. The first few minutes of coverage were a hilarious series of walk backs and corrections. Time to DVR the Daily Show.
 
2012-06-25 10:35:54 AM

MisterRonbo: Arizona laws will be overturned, by at least 6-3.

Individual mandate will be upheld, although the Medicare requirements imposed on the states may be overturned. Decision will be 6-3 or 7-2.

Why? Follow the money. There are big profits in having a cheap workforce you can exploit, that can't file disability claims, harassment claims, etc.

And insurance companies profit tremendously from the individual mandate.

Now ignore the little man behind the curtain and move along, people.


Well, you're already wrong.
 
2012-06-25 10:36:08 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Arizona v U.S. decision. Link, .pdf


Thanks.

Also, SUCK IT ARIZONA GOPers!!! (and everyone else who "knew" that the SCOTUS would allow SB1070 to stand on the basis of "we have a majority")
 
2012-06-25 10:36:14 AM

OhTheHumidity: That being said, I'm too young to give a hoot.


Young enough to stay on your parents' health insurance? (or have a significant other who is that young?)
 
2012-06-25 10:36:19 AM
Clarence Thomas' wife received about 3 times his annual salary in "consulting fees" from a group that is opposed to the health care reform act. There really should be no doubt in anyone's mind how he is voting.
 
2012-06-25 10:36:33 AM
Interesting Bloomberg Article on HCR.

Basically, 19 of 21 top constitutional law scholars agree that HCR, including the mandate, is clearly constitutional based on established law and precedent. Also, only 8 of them predicted the court would agree.

Gives you an interesting take on how poorly the Roberts court is viewed by people who study this stuff for a living.
 
2012-06-25 10:37:04 AM

Citrate1007: Regarding the healthcare bill, it is mammoth and if SCOTUS decides to toss ALL of it out it will be worse for the GOP in my opinion.


Obama: "OK guys. I put in a plan, that was in fact, based off of the Heritage Foundation and your own candidate's health care reforms. It's now been repealed by the courts. Any ideas what to replace it with?"
GOP "We got nothin'."
 
2012-06-25 10:37:44 AM

monoski: Clarence Thomas' wife received about 3 times his annual salary in "consulting fees" from a group that is opposed to the health care reform act. There really should be no doubt in anyone's mind how he is voting.


There wasn't any doubt as to how he was voting even without that.
 
2012-06-25 10:37:45 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Arizona v U.S. decision. Link, .pdf


Scalia: "States are allowed to be douchey quasi-racists if they think it's in their best interests."

Sounds about right.
 
2012-06-25 10:39:39 AM
LoL

SCotUS just shoved Arizona's head up its own ass and started kicking it in the balls.
 
2012-06-25 10:40:32 AM

Dr Dreidel: Dusk-You-n-Me: Arizona v U.S. decision. Link, .pdf

Scalia: "States are allowed to be douchey quasi-racists if they think it's in their best interests."

Sounds about right.


Scalia is a hypocritical douchebag. He makes a big show out of parsing the original meaning of the Constitution but usually votes for whatever position gets his jollies off. Big government solution implemented by conservatives? Totally kosher! Big government solution implemented by liberals? OMG KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!1!1!ONE!1!
 
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