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2012-06-25 02:01:06 PM
Yeah, but it snowed last winter so obviously global warming is a hoax.

Jamespoon

Please tell me that picture is a joke.

Veni_Vidi_Vici
The sooner the majority wake up to the fact that the main goal here is global government and that they don't really give a crap about "global warming" the better we will be. It is all about wealth re-distribution, and destruction of Europe and North America. I don't really care if anyone disagrees, you're probably a communist or as we call them in North America, Liberals.

God damn watermelon people, green on the outside red on the inside with chicken necks just begging to be broken.


Troll or lunatic? You decide, Farkers!

beta_plus
You know, warmers, us conservatives would have gone along with part of your agenda if you had simply kept it to using Petroleum for transportation. That causes a lot of immediate unpleasant air pollution (though much better than it used to be) and is a national security nightmare due to so much of it being in the Middle East and Russia. Instead, you used it to go after things like power plants and cows and a means to tax the hell out of people for your marxist agenda.

Truly the depths of your stupidity are bottomless.
 
2012-06-25 02:01:55 PM

imtheonlylp: I don't see the big deal - why don't we all just move a little further up north or south (depending on which hemisphere you're in) and place the world's degenerates in the middle?


I predict that that climate change is going to lead to a boom for all the Rust Belt cities of the Great Lakes region. Detroit, Cleveland, Buffalo, Toledo, etc.

Once the American South and Southwest become uninhabitable due to the heat, and the great coastal cities become flooded by rising sea levels, the Great Lakes region is going to start looking mighty nice. Cooler climate with an enormous supply of fresh water.
 
2012-06-25 02:02:24 PM
It's 79 and sunny here in Minnesota. Couldn't ask for a nicer day. Anyway, the Baby Boomers taught me that I should do whatever I want and fark over subsequent generations. So all you millenials out there, FARK YOU. I'm heating my house to a toasty 74 degrees this winter.
 
2012-06-25 02:04:27 PM

TenJed_77: [www.ar15.com image 250x198]


You could set your watch by the number of times a month that Fark mods allow posted articles about GW, positive and negative. It's like porn to them.
 
2012-06-25 02:09:00 PM

meat0918: FishyFred: Generation_D: 55F outside in the Northwest, and we had one of the snowiest winters in the past 20-30 years.

I'm pretty sure you were the exception this year.

In fact, I'm pretty sure your entire post is the exception.

/data > anecdotes

The whole PNW is cooler than average the past two years. The Southeast has reversed its cooler trend and is now above average. Global climate change is fun!

I've wondered why the loudest "AGW is a hoax" voices were always from the American Southeast, then someone pointed out they have had below average temps for many years. Now that they've been experiencing above average temps, those voices are quieter.

May 2011-May 2012

May 2005-May 2006


Because weather is the same as climate when it gets hotter.

/actually it's because there's not much point in debating with AGW zealots
//keep farking that chicken, it'll keep your pecker warm
 
2012-06-25 02:09:14 PM

Pantubo: This is not a repeat from the Global Cooling Impending Ice Age Scare of the 1970s.

Oh wait -- yes it is. Sorry.


There is a lot of stupidity in this thread but the re-posting of long debunked lies has to be the worst. Link

Of course, someone even more moronic than yourself will be along shortly to claim that Global Warming was renamed to Global Climate Change.

The stupid is strong in this thread.

/I think it is poetic justice that it looks like all the red states are going to burn (or drown) first.
//I'm in a good location and make enough money that I should be able to survive the next 40-50 years I have left. And I have no kids.
///So screw all of you ... enjoy watching your kids deal with the product of your ignorance. You reap what you sew.
 
2012-06-25 02:10:49 PM
No were not. So sick of this topic.
 
2012-06-25 02:11:18 PM
i151.photobucket.com

Nothing to see here, folks, nothing out of the ordinary has happened around the world the past few years.
 
2012-06-25 02:11:47 PM
It's so much easier to deny than change, am I right idiots-in-this-thread?
 
2012-06-25 02:16:56 PM
Good. Lets get this shiat over with... I have some beachfront property in Arizona to unload.
 
2012-06-25 02:19:17 PM

fatimcgee: It's so much easier to deny than change, am I right idiots-in-this-thread?



Is the temperature increasing? Yes, but a very small amount. The last big event WAS an ice age, I would expect the temperatures to be increasing.


the entire thing is a scam, there is no need to change.
 
2012-06-25 02:19:35 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/sea-rise-faster-east-coast-rest-globe-172002416. html

Not sure how this could only add 8 to 11 inches more to the East Coast.
 
2012-06-25 02:19:49 PM

This text is now purple:
if you don't like it hot, you shouldn't be in Austin, TX in the summer.


Didn't say I did not like it.
I played 18 holes of disc golf yesterday with no waiting. It was a balmy 102.
It keeps all the damn yankees away.
Not quite working on the Californians tho.
 
2012-06-25 02:20:35 PM

Generation_D: vpb: Lucky LaRue: This is going to be a big issue for poor people and for a lot of middle class people who've sunk their retirement into weather-based vacation retreats (beaches, lakes, ski resorts, etc.al). If you are rich or at least not poor and did not make horrible life decisions, you'll be fine.

So 53% of people in the US made a "horrible life decision"? I suspect you live in a bunker in Montana.

55F outside in the Northwest, and we had one of the snowiest winters in the past 20-30 years. Summer's late arriving as usual. A degree or two of warmth to the Pacific won't change things much here. As for the sea levels rising we have pretty steep coastlines, it could matter locally but on the other hand it would probably be slow enough to just rebuild what needs to. Some waterfront property out on the coast won't do as well, but they're already in the shotgun barrel for a tsunami like Japan had if the Plate of Juan de Fuca ever slips.

Its June 25th and 55F outside. All my windows are wide open, its a sunny day shaping up, high around 70 or 75.

I heard its hot elsewhere in the US, but I really didn't care too much. Everything's so green in the Northwest, it rained all weekend. The Bluest Skies you'll ever see.


O.K. good for you. Now, how happy will you be when most of the U.S. population tries to cram itself into the Pac NW? How blue will the skies be then?
 
2012-06-25 02:21:48 PM

Doc Daneeka: imtheonlylp: I don't see the big deal - why don't we all just move a little further up north or south (depending on which hemisphere you're in) and place the world's degenerates in the middle?

I predict that that climate change is going to lead to a boom for all the Rust Belt cities of the Great Lakes region. Detroit, Cleveland, Buffalo, Toledo, etc.

Once the American South and Southwest become uninhabitable due to the heat, and the great coastal cities become flooded by rising sea levels, the Great Lakes region is going to start looking mighty nice. Cooler climate with an enormous supply of fresh water.


The average increase in global temperature since 1850 has been less than on degree Celsius. It is going to be a very long time before that boom happens.
 
2012-06-25 02:23:03 PM

TomieKitie: I guess we better stop flying to our concerts chartered helicopters, sell off our private jets, get rid of the limo's, and only own one Mc-Mansion at a time from here on out.

This Global warming thing is scary! We HAVE to adjust our lives and lead by example!



work harder serf, life is hard and crap but your reward is in the afterlife. After all a frightened citizen is a good citizen. A message brought to you by your benevolent nation-state.
 
2012-06-25 02:23:28 PM

Generation_D: 55F outside in the Northwest, and we had one of the snowiest winters in the past 20-30 years.


Higher temperatures yield higher moisture content in the clouds/air. If the average temperature is below freezing, then a few degrees warmer will raise the average snowfall.
 
2012-06-25 02:24:47 PM

PunGent: DesertDemonWY: "on the path to worst case scenarios?"
not so much:
[i1057.photobucket.com image 514x344]

Source?


Here ya go
 
2012-06-25 02:25:05 PM

Maud Dib: This text is now purple:
if you don't like it hot, you shouldn't be in Austin, TX in the summer.

Didn't say I did not like it.
I played 18 holes of disc golf yesterday with no waiting. It was a balmy 102.
It keeps all the damn yankees away.
Not quite working on the Californians tho.


Not sure why. Downtown NYC has higher average summer highs than downtown LA.
 
2012-06-25 02:25:52 PM
our children and grandchildren will inherit an atmosphere irreversibly out of control, with inexorably rising temperatures that could, according to one recent study, render half of Earth's currently occupied land uninhabitable-literally too hot to bear-by 2300.



we could see a 40-foot rise in sea levels within centuries



Havent we learned that all the scarmongering is counter productive?
 
2012-06-25 02:25:57 PM

fatimcgee: It's so much easier to deny than change, am I right idiots-in-this-thread?


need some more straw for that man you're making?
 
2012-06-25 02:28:47 PM

Jamespoon: [ecowatch.org image 500x350]


Is that for real? The sheer number of fallback positions is incredibly galling: "it's not happening/it's not our fault/it's better this way/it won't be that bad". They don't care which argument it takes, even if it's contradictory with their other arguments, so long as it wins for them.

It's so bad that I have to take Poe's Law into account.
 
2012-06-25 02:29:04 PM
enforcerpsu

So sick of this topic.

No, you're not. Not really, are you? Please, let's chew on it some more. I could chew on this all day. {... heavy panting ...} C'mon c'mon c'mon
c'mon
c'mon
c'mon

thepetwiki.com
 
2012-06-25 02:29:19 PM

chuckufarlie: the entire thing is a scam, there is no need to change.


greenupgrader.com
 
2012-06-25 02:29:53 PM
Remember that Al Gore movie with dooms day lines going off the charts by 2010?
I bet they kept the same charts, but shifted the dates.

/gotta find me a copy of that movie and watch it again for its unintended campiness.
 
2012-06-25 02:29:53 PM
Meh. It's a problem, but as long as human beings have "Reproductive Rights", not a damn thing will get done about it, because not a thing will be able to be done about it. As long as people have the "right" to reproduce, they have the "right" to exacerbate the problem, unchecked.
 
2012-06-25 02:31:35 PM
Basically, my plan is to export large amounts of American coal to China and get so wealthy that none of this matters for me. Global warming means more room for my megayacht.

Good luck, everybody else!
 
2012-06-25 02:32:47 PM

Doc Daneeka: chuckufarlie: the entire thing is a scam, there is no need to change.

[greenupgrader.com image 600x401]


people that post this cartoon do not realize what the actual proposals really are. They also do not understand what the impact of too much CO2 means. Reducing CO2 will not lead to cleaner rivers. It will not preserve the rain forests - quite the opposite - trees love CO2. It will not lead to anything on at list.

Posting it identifies you as a fool and an idiot.
 
2012-06-25 02:32:48 PM

Maud Dib: I am just going to put a potato on my dashboard, by 1 PM it should be ready for lunch.

[i865.photobucket.com image 622x267]



Gee, it's hot in Texas. Film at 11.
 
2012-06-25 02:33:12 PM
The end is nigh.
 
2012-06-25 02:34:11 PM

HAMMERTOE: Meh. It's a problem, but as long as human beings have "Reproductive Rights", not a damn thing will get done about it, because not a thing will be able to be done about it. As long as people have the "right" to reproduce, they have the "right" to exacerbate the problem, unchecked.


but people do have the right to reproduce and they always will have that right.
 
2012-06-25 02:34:22 PM

chuckufarlie: Reducing CO2 will not lead to cleaner rivers. It will not preserve the rain forests - quite the opposite - trees love CO2.


Is this the denialist version of the "Both sides are bad, so vote X" argument?
 
2012-06-25 02:35:03 PM

T-Servo: [i151.photobucket.com image 460x288]

Nothing to see here, folks, nothing out of the ordinary has happened around the world the past few years.



Russians shouldn't set their forests on fire.

But being Russian ...

/Estonian
 
2012-06-25 02:36:01 PM

Polly Ester: Remember that Al Gore movie with dooms day lines going off the charts by 2010?


No, and neither do you, if you're implying some dramatic increase past the historical data (ca. 2006).
 
2012-06-25 02:37:24 PM

HAMMERTOE: Meh. It's a problem, but as long as human beings have "Reproductive Rights", not a damn thing will get done about it, because not a thing will be able to be done about it.


Population isn't the problem. Population will stabilize far before energy consumption does. The problem is everyone in the world trying to achieve U.S.-levels of per capita fossil energy consumption.
 
2012-06-25 02:37:59 PM
Put a million blue marbles in a box. Take out 390 blue marbles. Replace those 390 blue marbles with 390 green marbles. Shake thoroughly. There is the percentage of Carbon Dioxide in the atmosphere, that everyone is panicking about. Statistically insignificant. Get yourself some commonsense.
 
2012-06-25 02:38:30 PM

FishyFred: chuckufarlie: Reducing CO2 will not lead to cleaner rivers. It will not preserve the rain forests - quite the opposite - trees love CO2.

Is this the denialist version of the "Both sides are bad, so vote X" argument?


not in the least - Both sides are not bad - just the one who wants to gut the economy of the western world.

My comment was directed at the inaccuracy of the statement in the cartoon. It is just more fear tactics to make people support the scam. The simple truth is that the points raised have nothing to do with increasing CO2. It is all a lie to support a scam.
 
2012-06-25 02:45:22 PM

chuckufarlie: My comment was directed at the inaccuracy of the statement in the cartoon. It is just more fear tactics to make people support the scam.


On the contrary, the cartoon suggests that you don't have to fear global warming to support many of the proposals suggested in the cartoon.
 
2012-06-25 02:47:47 PM

coolEye: Put a million blue marbles in a box. Take out 390 blue marbles. Replace those 390 blue marbles with 390 green marbles. Shake thoroughly. There is the percentage of Carbon Dioxide in the atmosphere, that everyone is panicking about. Statistically insignificant.


Have you calculated the infrared radiative effects of 100 parts per million carbon dioxide in the atmosphere? Didn't think so. Your "quantitative" argument is completely innumerate. And you don't understand what "statistical significance" means, either.
 
2012-06-25 02:47:54 PM
www.famousquotesabout.com
 
2012-06-25 02:48:48 PM

Kittypie070: darwin


i55.photobucket.com

Hmmm...Hair pie?
 
2012-06-25 02:49:17 PM

This text is now purple: That's funny, because sea level hasn't risen by half a meter, like some of the more pessimistic early models predicted by 2012.


Yep. Al Gore said that by 2012 it would be too late to do anything, so can we stop with all the "I need government funding for my climate research" bullshiat now?
 
2012-06-25 02:50:11 PM

Ambitwistor: coolEye: Put a million blue marbles in a box. Take out 390 blue marbles. Replace those 390 blue marbles with 390 green marbles. Shake thoroughly. There is the percentage of Carbon Dioxide in the atmosphere, that everyone is panicking about. Statistically insignificant.

Have you calculated the infrared radiative effects of 100 parts per million carbon dioxide in the atmosphere? Didn't think so. Your "quantitative" argument is completely innumerate. And you don't understand what "statistical significance" means, either.


give it a rest - he is correct and you are a fool.
 
2012-06-25 02:50:19 PM
I see fields of green... Red roses too...

web.mit.edu
 
2012-06-25 02:51:13 PM

coolEye: Put a million blue marbles in a box. Take out 390 blue marbles. Replace those 390 blue marbles with 390 green marbles. Shake thoroughly. There is the percentage of Carbon Dioxide in the atmosphere, that everyone is panicking about. Statistically insignificant. Get yourself some commonsense.


Oh, that completely convinces me, since you seem to know so much about what is 'statistically significant'.

Now mix 800 marbles into a box and use that analogy when trying to convince a cop that you're not drunk. "But officer, it's not statistically significant! That's only 0.08!"

(Navy source)

Mart Laar's beard shaver: Russians shouldn't set their forests on fire.


But it makes for a classic Putin photo op.
 
2012-06-25 02:51:23 PM

Jamespoon: [ecowatch.org image 500x350]


Why do climate deniers insist it's impossible to know what the future climate will be... and also insist it will be fine?

None of them have explained why man-made CO2 won't have an effect, or what "natural" cycle we're observing. They just keep insisting that all the science is wrong, and to have faith in their own, unscientific propaganda.

Then they accuse the AGW crowd of acting like a religious cult.

No irony there.
 
2012-06-25 02:52:05 PM

vudukungfu: So, we're on a path to a blind date with an obese trailer trash whore with bad tattoos, anger management issues, and a case of herpes? Because when I think of worst case scenario, I think of being trapped for an evening with one of those mountain whales with their miles and piles of cheesy, sweaty blubber and clammy flesh reaching over my plate to grab a fist full of my fries to cram in their gaping maw, while she goes on and on about how her ex is only in prison for a while and she just needs some help with the bills, and maybe popping that boil on her ass.

Egregious climate change will kill off trash like that without making it some sort of political controversy, so I'm not seeing this "worst case scenario" subby


0/0 for funny AND trolling.
 
2012-06-25 02:53:49 PM

Maud Dib: This text is now purple: Maud Dib: I am just going to put a potato on my dashboard, by 1 PM it should be ready for lunch.

[i865.photobucket.com image 622x267]

June 25, 2012 Max Temp Min Temp
Normal (KATT) 93 °F 72 °F

That's normal weather for Austin in late June.


The average high for June is 91.8
That extra 10-12 degrees is brutal.


Are we in June or late June?

Oh, the average temp for late June doesn't support your agenda so you omitted it, right. Maybe Al Gore will hire you for Current TV before they file for bankruptcy.
 
2012-06-25 02:53:55 PM

chuckufarlie: Doc Daneeka: chuckufarlie: the entire thing is a scam, there is no need to change.

[greenupgrader.com image 600x401]

people that post this cartoon do not realize what the actual proposals really are. They also do not understand what the impact of too much CO2 means. Reducing CO2 will not lead to cleaner rivers. It will not preserve the rain forests - quite the opposite - trees love CO2. It will not lead to anything on at list.

Posting it identifies you as a fool and an idiot.


The ~7,000,000,000 people on the planet all put out CO2 daily, about 1m3 apiece every day IIRC. I don't think we'll be hurting for carbon dioxide any time soon.

The problem, gentle moron, is that TOO MUCH of it is getting released into the atmosphere - burning carbon, for example, like that found in fossil fuels. Increasing the amount of CO2 released into the atmosphere progresses to the level of a Very Bad Thing if the trees can't convert it into O2 fast enough.

No, wait.

The problem, gentle moron, is that atmospheric CO2 levels are only one of the problems us enviro-hippies are trying to combat. Deforestation; pollutants building up in lakes, rivers, streams and wildlife; pollutants released into the atmosphere (hi, coal-burning plants in every state in the country!); chemical dependency (pesticides, GMOs, food/fuel additives, all the damn medications we're shiatting into the water supply)...there are many environmental concerns.

Addressing some of them may help some of the factors we claim contribute to AGW. Even if they don't, who doesn't want cleaner air, water and earth?

// you, apparently
// cleanliness is too gosh-darned expensive, wouldn'tcha know?
 
2012-06-25 02:55:12 PM

FishyFred: chuckufarlie: My comment was directed at the inaccuracy of the statement in the cartoon. It is just more fear tactics to make people support the scam.

On the contrary, the cartoon suggests that you don't have to fear global warming to support many of the proposals suggested in the cartoon.


Just in case you did not notice, there are NO proposals suggested in that cartoon. It is a list of results.

The people at the meeting in that cartoon are there to address the problems caused by global warming. Not one of the proposals at such a meeting would result in anything listed on that chart being shown.

And that is where the problem lies - the proposals to solve global warming will do nothing to impact anything on that list. Somebody posting that chart at such a meeting would be a liar or an idiot.
 
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