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2012-06-25 09:35:58 AM
This is going to be a big issue for poor people and for a lot of middle class people who've sunk their retirement into weather-based vacation retreats (beaches, lakes, ski resorts, etc.al). If you are rich or at least not poor and did not make horrible life decisions, you'll be fine.
 
2012-06-25 09:55:36 AM
Yeah, right. What do scientists know?

The sun goes down every night, all over the world, thereby cooling whatever the daytime temperature was.

We'll be fine.
 
2012-06-25 09:59:54 AM
Sure, and the best we, as humans, can do is...wait for it...take a guess...NOTHING.

Lowered expectations were not met
 
2012-06-25 10:12:30 AM
ecowatch.org
 
2012-06-25 10:16:26 AM
*puts on Fox News hat*

Could we use poor people instead of sandbags to protect our luxurious beach resorts and timeshares?
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-06-25 10:22:40 AM

Lucky LaRue: This is going to be a big issue for poor people and for a lot of middle class people who've sunk their retirement into weather-based vacation retreats (beaches, lakes, ski resorts, etc.al). If you are rich or at least not poor and did not make horrible life decisions, you'll be fine.


So 53% of people in the US made a "horrible life decision"? I suspect you live in a bunker in Montana.
 
2012-06-25 10:29:15 AM

vpb: Lucky LaRue: This is going to be a big issue for poor people and for a lot of middle class people who've sunk their retirement into weather-based vacation retreats (beaches, lakes, ski resorts, etc.al). If you are rich or at least not poor and did not make horrible life decisions, you'll be fine.

So 53% of people in the US made a "horrible life decision"? I suspect you live in a bunker in Montana.


55F outside in the Northwest, and we had one of the snowiest winters in the past 20-30 years. Summer's late arriving as usual. A degree or two of warmth to the Pacific won't change things much here. As for the sea levels rising we have pretty steep coastlines, it could matter locally but on the other hand it would probably be slow enough to just rebuild what needs to. Some waterfront property out on the coast won't do as well, but they're already in the shotgun barrel for a tsunami like Japan had if the Plate of Juan de Fuca ever slips.

Its June 25th and 55F outside. All my windows are wide open, its a sunny day shaping up, high around 70 or 75.

I heard its hot elsewhere in the US, but I really didn't care too much. Everything's so green in the Northwest, it rained all weekend. The Bluest Skies you'll ever see.
 
2012-06-25 11:46:28 AM

Generation_D: 55F outside in the Northwest, and we had one of the snowiest winters in the past 20-30 years.


I'm pretty sure you were the exception this year.

In fact, I'm pretty sure your entire post is the exception.

/data > anecdotes
 
2012-06-25 12:48:43 PM
"on the path to worst case scenarios?"
not so much:
i1057.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-25 01:03:33 PM

vpb: Lucky LaRue: This is going to be a big issue for poor people and for a lot of middle class people who've sunk their retirement into weather-based vacation retreats (beaches, lakes, ski resorts, etc.al). If you are rich or at least not poor and did not make horrible life decisions, you'll be fine.

So 53% of people in the US made a "horrible life decision"? I suspect you live in a bunker in Montana.


Didn't you hear? those people have refrigerators, they ain't poor.

Now the Bangladeshis, those people are farking poor and right farked with the ocean's rise.
 
2012-06-25 01:09:08 PM

FishyFred: Generation_D: 55F outside in the Northwest, and we had one of the snowiest winters in the past 20-30 years.

I'm pretty sure you were the exception this year.

In fact, I'm pretty sure your entire post is the exception.

/data > anecdotes


The whole PNW is cooler than average the past two years. The Southeast has reversed its cooler trend and is now above average. Global climate change is fun!

I've wondered why the loudest "AGW is a hoax" voices were always from the American Southeast, then someone pointed out they have had below average temps for many years. Now that they've been experiencing above average temps, those voices are quieter.

May 2011-May 2012

May 2005-May 2006
 
2012-06-25 01:14:09 PM
No one cares.
 
2012-06-25 01:18:19 PM
So what? It's not like this is the only planet we have...
 
2012-06-25 01:18:57 PM
This is not a repeat from the Global Cooling Impending Ice Age Scare of the 1970s.

Oh wait -- yes it is. Sorry.
 
2012-06-25 01:19:00 PM
So all of those people stocking up on ammo are doing the right thing, but for the wrong reason?
 
2012-06-25 01:19:01 PM
The sky is falling, the sky is falling!
 
2012-06-25 01:19:55 PM
So, we're on a path to a blind date with an obese trailer trash whore with bad tattoos, anger management issues, and a case of herpes? Because when I think of worst case scenario, I think of being trapped for an evening with one of those mountain whales with their miles and piles of cheesy, sweaty blubber and clammy flesh reaching over my plate to grab a fist full of my fries to cram in their gaping maw, while she goes on and on about how her ex is only in prison for a while and she just needs some help with the bills, and maybe popping that boil on her ass.

Egregious climate change will kill off trash like that without making it some sort of political controversy, so I'm not seeing this "worst case scenario" subby
 
2012-06-25 01:20:13 PM
www.ar15.com
 
2012-06-25 01:20:51 PM
I am just going to put a potato on my dashboard, by 1 PM it should be ready for lunch.

i865.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-25 01:21:16 PM
The sky has been falling for 2000 years.
 
2012-06-25 01:22:35 PM
That's funny, because sea level hasn't risen by half a meter, like some of the more pessimistic early models predicted by 2012.
 
2012-06-25 01:22:43 PM
Al Gore said the east coast would be underwater by now. It was in a movie, so it must be true.
 
2012-06-25 01:23:07 PM

Rev.K: Yeah, right. What do scientists know?


The author:

Some 98 percent of working climate scientists agree that the atmosphere is already warming in response to human greenhouse-gas emissions, and the most recent research suggests that we are on a path toward what were once considered "worst case" scenarios.

That's a pretty loosey goosey statement made by a philosopher with not a whole of lot of science in him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Roberts_(journalist)

Born and raised in Tennessee, he pursued a graduate degree in philosophy at the University of Montana before leaving academia for the Seattle tech industry in 1999. After several years working for such companies as Amazon.com, IMDB.com, and Microsoft, Roberts was hired by Grist Magazine in December 2003. He lives in the Seattle area with his wife and two sons.
 
2012-06-25 01:23:10 PM
Our worst case scenarios are boring. We just get cooked over the period of a century of so and the whole ecosystem distorts to the point of complete collapse.

The Day After Tomorrow lied about everything.
 
2012-06-25 01:24:09 PM

DesertDemonWY: "on the path to worst case scenarios?"
not so much:
[i1057.photobucket.com image 514x344]


A graph, with no attributes that comes OUT OF YOUR PICTURE ACCOUNT means nothing. The gif has your user name in it....
 
2012-06-25 01:24:49 PM
Im more concerned about taxmageddon at the end of the year. The year 2300 is a bit farther out than my current multi-time horizen life strategy.
 
2012-06-25 01:25:05 PM
more warmer propaganda.

Your data sets are corrupt, your models produce the same conclusions if you feed them random telephone numbers, and all of the panels "exonerating" climate gate contained blatant conflicts of interest.

You know, warmers, us conservatives would have gone along with part of your agenda if you had simply kept it to using Petroleum for transportation. That causes a lot of immediate unpleasant air pollution (though much better than it used to be) and is a national security nightmare due to so much of it being in the Middle East and Russia. Instead, you used it to go after things like power plants and cows and a means to tax the hell out of people for your marxist agenda.
 
2012-06-25 01:25:18 PM
Good news everybody...
 
2012-06-25 01:25:40 PM

This text is now purple: That's funny, because sea level hasn't risen by half a meter, like some of the more pessimistic early models predicted by 2012.


The popular thing to say now is "Climate change calamity X will happen by 2100." That way most everyone who predicts such things will be dead and not have to hear about how none of it happened.
 
2012-06-25 01:26:18 PM
I guess we better stop flying to our concerts chartered helicopters, sell off our private jets, get rid of the limo's, and only own one Mc-Mansion at a time from here on out.

This Global warming thing is scary! We HAVE to adjust our lives and lead by example!
 
2012-06-25 01:28:49 PM
stolen from somewhere else:

I'll start to believe it's a crisis when those people telling us it's a crisis start acting like it's a crisis. (You know, private jets, SUV fleets, burning piles of hippies... Maybe that last one is just me.)
 
2012-06-25 01:30:38 PM
This is why I'm glad I bought that submarine. Got's trident missiles and everything.
 
2012-06-25 01:34:19 PM
Meh - it's getting a bit boring around here. Some change would be nice.

As would seeing more topless hotties.

/fatties can move north and cover the hell up.
//that's my new campaign slogan.
 
2012-06-25 01:36:44 PM
see? no one cares.
 
2012-06-25 01:36:57 PM
Is this a repeat from the 70's?
 
2012-06-25 01:38:12 PM

Maud Dib: I am just going to put a potato on my dashboard, by 1 PM it should be ready for lunch.

[i865.photobucket.com image 622x267]


June 25, 2012 Max Temp Min Temp
Normal (KATT) 93 °F 72 °F

That's normal weather for Austin in late June.
 
2012-06-25 01:43:32 PM
The sooner the majority wake up to the fact that the main goal here is global government and that they don't really give a crap about "global warming" the better we will be. It is all about wealth re-distribution, and destruction of Europe and North America. I don't really care if anyone disagrees, you're probably a communist or as we call them in North America, Liberals.

God damn watermelon people, green on the outside red on the inside with chicken necks just begging to be broken.
 
2012-06-25 01:44:46 PM

Generation_D: vpb: Lucky LaRue: This is going to be a big issue for poor people and for a lot of middle class people who've sunk their retirement into weather-based vacation retreats (beaches, lakes, ski resorts, etc.al). If you are rich or at least not poor and did not make horrible life decisions, you'll be fine.

So 53% of people in the US made a "horrible life decision"? I suspect you live in a bunker in Montana.

55F outside in the Northwest, and we had one of the snowiest winters in the past 20-30 years. Summer's late arriving as usual. A degree or two of warmth to the Pacific won't change things much here. As for the sea levels rising we have pretty steep coastlines, it could matter locally but on the other hand it would probably be slow enough to just rebuild what needs to. Some waterfront property out on the coast won't do as well, but they're already in the shotgun barrel for a tsunami like Japan had if the Plate of Juan de Fuca ever slips.

Its June 25th and 55F outside. All my windows are wide open, its a sunny day shaping up, high around 70 or 75.

I heard its hot elsewhere in the US, but I really didn't care too much. Everything's so green in the Northwest, it rained all weekend. The Bluest Skies you'll ever see.


This is why I moved to Seattle
 
2012-06-25 01:46:54 PM

This text is now purple: Maud Dib: I am just going to put a potato on my dashboard, by 1 PM it should be ready for lunch.

[i865.photobucket.com image 622x267]

June 25, 2012 Max Temp Min Temp
Normal (KATT) 93 °F 72 °F

That's normal weather for Austin in late June.



The average high for June is 91.8
That extra 10-12 degrees is brutal.
 
2012-06-25 01:47:21 PM
The author of the piece is a senior writer for an environmental activist blog.
 
2012-06-25 01:48:32 PM

Generation_D: vpb: Lucky LaRue: This is going to be a big issue for poor people and for a lot of middle class people who've sunk their retirement into weather-based vacation retreats (beaches, lakes, ski resorts, etc.al). If you are rich or at least not poor and did not make horrible life decisions, you'll be fine.

So 53% of people in the US made a "horrible life decision"? I suspect you live in a bunker in Montana.

55F outside in the Northwest, and we had one of the snowiest winters in the past 20-30 years. Summer's late arriving as usual. A degree or two of warmth to the Pacific won't change things much here. As for the sea levels rising we have pretty steep coastlines, it could matter locally but on the other hand it would probably be slow enough to just rebuild what needs to. Some waterfront property out on the coast won't do as well, but they're already in the shotgun barrel for a tsunami like Japan had if the Plate of Juan de Fuca ever slips.

Its June 25th and 55F outside. All my windows are wide open, its a sunny day shaping up, high around 70 or 75.

I heard its hot elsewhere in the US, but I really didn't care too much. Everything's so green in the Northwest, it rained all weekend. The Bluest Skies you'll ever see.


That's because we're in the midst of the cool cycle of the Pacific Oscillation. When it shifts back to the warm period, good bye snow pack.

http://jisao.washington.edu/pdo/

/no html-fu
 
2012-06-25 01:48:46 PM
I don't see the big deal - why don't we all just move a little further up north or south (depending on which hemisphere you're in) and place the world's degenerates in the middle?
 
2012-06-25 01:49:53 PM

choo: *puts on Fox News hat*

Could we use poor people instead of sandbags to protect our luxurious beach resorts and timeshares?


Yes, provided they're dark enough.

Really.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2006/jan2006/tide-j27.shtml

Not exactly our finest hour.
 
2012-06-25 01:54:10 PM

Maud Dib: This text is now purple: Maud Dib: I am just going to put a potato on my dashboard, by 1 PM it should be ready for lunch.

[i865.photobucket.com image 622x267]

June 25, 2012 Max Temp Min Temp
Normal (KATT) 93 °F 72 °F

That's normal weather for Austin in late June.


The average high for June is 91.8
That extra 10-12 degrees is brutal.


Do I really need to point out that the average high is higher at the end of June than at the beginning? I'm unimpressed by your 8 degree deviation from the 100-year average, or your 5-degrees below record heat.

if you don't like it hot, you shouldn't be in Austin, TX in the summer.
 
2012-06-25 01:54:47 PM

DesertDemonWY: "on the path to worst case scenarios?"
not so much:
[i1057.photobucket.com image 514x344]


Source?
 
2012-06-25 01:56:15 PM
We're in the darkest timeline?

fishsticktheatre.com
 
2012-06-25 01:56:35 PM
Here is what I don't get. The earth has been much warmer than it is now. It has also been much cooler than it is now. It is still here. Why are we concerned? We will adapt.
 
2012-06-25 01:57:54 PM
Too bad it was all just bad computer models instead of facts of actual measurements being processed which generated the man-made climate change finger pointing.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/06/25/antarctic_ice_not_melting/
 
2012-06-25 01:59:37 PM

PunGent: choo: *puts on Fox News hat*

Could we use poor people instead of sandbags to protect our luxurious beach resorts and timeshares?

Yes, provided they're dark enough.

Really.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2006/jan2006/tide-j27.shtml

Not exactly our finest hour.


Holy shiat!

The author cites a 1912 New York Times article that illustrates the serf-like conditions faced by blacks in Mississippi. The Times reported that an engineer overseeing work on a levee threatened by high water ran out of sandbags and "ordered...several hundred negroes...to lie down on top of the levee and as close together as possible. The black men obeyed, and although spray frequently dashed over them, they prevented the overflow that might have developed into an ugly crevasse. For an hour and a half this lasted, until the additional sandbags arrived" (p. 131).


On a scale of 1-10, with 10 being completely broken and sociopathic, how bad am I for laughing a little?
 
2012-06-25 02:00:43 PM
We are on the way to destruction? Do we have any chance to survive, or should we just go ahead and make our time?
 
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