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(Minneapolis Star Tribune)   Prison inmate with history of seizures dies when doctor requesting his transfer to a hospital is overruled due to 'protocols'. Did I mention it's a for-profit prison, and that ambulance rides cost $3,000?   (startribune.com) divider line 264
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2012-06-25 03:11:47 AM
The prison nurse needs to be barred from ever working in the health services field again.
 
2012-06-25 03:20:55 AM
on the bright side, they just saved a TON of money!
 
2012-06-25 03:25:17 AM
a prison nurse who overrode a doctor's orders

WAT
 
2012-06-25 03:26:36 AM
Also, it sounds like a private medical provider, not a private prison.
 
2012-06-25 03:34:49 AM
FTA:
"At the time, Johnson was expected to be released from prison in less than three months."

Damn...that's harsh.

I bet he is later added to the prison's statistics for anti-recidivism.
 
2012-06-25 03:53:32 AM
He deserved it, tea drinking skittle eating thug.
 
2012-06-25 04:00:11 AM
www.corizonhealth.com

Prior to joining Corizon in 2006, Hallworth was the Chief Operating Officer of Tufts Health Plan in Boston.


w00t, Romneycare

The nurse will lose his license and should go to prison. I also want to know why the hell they are paying $3k for an ambulance transport. Usual and customary ALS is around $750+milage
 
2012-06-25 04:12:01 AM

Bathia_Mapes: The prison nurse needs to be barred from ever working in the health services field again.


She should be held on criminal charges as well. There is no excuse for the treatment some of these people get. For profit prisons are just evil.
 
2012-06-25 04:14:29 AM
dang what a deal
 
2012-06-25 04:18:23 AM
I'm shedding crocodile tears for this guy.
 
2012-06-25 04:20:46 AM
AverageAmericanGuy: I'm shedding crocodile tears for this guy.

Wow.
 
2012-06-25 04:20:59 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: I'm shedding crocodile tears for this guy.


Obligatory STFU.
 
2012-06-25 04:21:58 AM
"Corizon" the prison with a heart. NOT
 
2012-06-25 04:23:10 AM
No doctors, who are all Corizon employees, work in the state's prisons after 4 p.m. or on weekends


So sorry you are dying, but it's Saturday and I'm on the 10th hole...ta ta biatches!
 
2012-06-25 04:23:28 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: I'm shedding crocodile tears for this guy.

 
2012-06-25 04:23:38 AM
I didn't know Lexus made ambulances.
 
2012-06-25 04:24:09 AM

AbbeySomeone: For profit prisons are just evil.


So much THIS. It's a horrifying symptom of everything that's wrong with this country. Corporatism run amok.
 
2012-06-25 04:24:26 AM

Rufus Lee King: Nu? What was he in prison for?


Chopped a woman in the neck with a cleaver then grabbed another kitchen knife and stabbed her.

A real American hero.
 
2012-06-25 04:24:34 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: I'm shedding crocodile tears for this guy.


images.t-nation.com
 
2012-06-25 04:25:38 AM

Rufus Lee King: Nu? What was he in prison for?


Probably either pot possession or driving while black.
 
2012-06-25 04:27:31 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Rufus Lee King: Nu? What was he in prison for?

Chopped a woman in the neck with a cleaver then grabbed another kitchen knife and stabbed her.

A real American hero.


You know how I can tell you know nothing about schizophrenia?
 
2012-06-25 04:27:54 AM

Fluorescent Testicle: Rufus Lee King: Nu? What was he in prison for?

Probably either pot possession or driving while black.


No silly, he used a water cup to steal soda at a fast food joint. He's hardcore.
 
2012-06-25 04:28:43 AM
A prisoner with health issues dies due to his health issues.

If this was Jerry Sandusky, we're all high-fiving.
 
2012-06-25 04:29:43 AM

cretinbob: AverageAmericanGuy: Rufus Lee King: Nu? What was he in prison for?

Chopped a woman in the neck with a cleaver then grabbed another kitchen knife and stabbed her.

A real American hero.

You know how I can tell you know nothing about schizophrenia?


Silly me! Mental illness makes that okay now? I missed the memo.
 
2012-06-25 04:33:31 AM
FTA: "At the time, Johnson was expected to be released from prison in less than three months."

Yeah, this is gonna sound a little heartless but... if the prisoner in question is a murderer, rapist or similar lifer, then he should be left to the natural causes of his death and save the state the funds necessary to keep him alive and healthy.

That was not the case here. This guy did his time, paid his debt to society. They should have saved him.

/seriously, if Sandusky goes into seizures, let him shake, rattle and roll his way straight to hell.
//or Charles Manson
///you get the idea.
 
2012-06-25 04:34:59 AM
TomD9938 If this was Jerry Sandusky, we're all high-fiving.

This.

/beat me to it.
 
2012-06-25 04:44:38 AM
Jesus did they never tell the nurse in school that some epileptics go into Staticus Epilepticus and it can farking kill them? SE is the most terrifying thing to me besides SUDEP when it comes to epilepsy because it can either be obvious tonic-clonic seizures or altered mental state seizures. They should've started doing something after this guy had been having a seizure for five minutes,a seizure lasting more than five minutes has most likely turned into SE unless they are myoclonic seizures. SE can so easily cause brain damage and death that it's nothing to fark with at all.
/Dying from a seizure is not a hell I'd wish on really anyone.
 
2012-06-25 04:45:01 AM

othmar: dang what a deal


When Burgess wrote "Clockwork Orange", he made Alex Delarge an inredeemable bastard, so that people would feel outraged by his treatment from the state, without having their judgement clouded by the sympathy generated by some sense of injustice.
I don't even want to know why this guy was in for. What happened to him was outrageous, even if he was a kiddy-diddler arsonist and methodist. The prison-for-profit should not get a pass according to the profile of the person they let die to save 3.000 bucks.
 
2012-06-25 04:46:05 AM
Yet events in the hours before Johnson was found "pulseless" in his cell raise questions about denial of care because of the rationed-care philosophy of the for-profit contractor Minnesota has hired to care for the state's 9,400 prisoners. Corizon Inc., formerly known as Correctional Medical Services, has had a contract with the state since 1998, worth $28 million this year.

"They have protocols to deal with the patient,'' her notes continue, "and say this is because patient has recently gotten his Dilantin cut in half
.''

An autopsy later showed that Johnson's Dilantin was "below therapeutic level,''

A man died because of the bottom line and protocols

If I had my way, any contractor with the Government must be non-profit. They can still make money, but obviously they wouldn't be able to line the pockets of investors or C.E.Os

If I had my way, vital organizations for the public welfare would be non-profit. Hospitals, ambulances, garbage collection, water and utilities.
 
2012-06-25 04:49:01 AM

Relatively Obscure: Also, it sounds like a private medical provider, not a private prison.


Maybe I missed it, but I heard "for-profit" prison, not "private" prison. Are they the same thing?
 
2012-06-25 04:52:47 AM
Prisons should never, never, never be for profit. Even more so if the criminal justice system is as bad as it is in the US.
 
2012-06-25 04:52:50 AM
So not only did they cut the guy's meds in half and refused the ambulance transport, after he was found in worse shape they had to pay for the second ambulance anyways that took the man away.
 
2012-06-25 04:54:00 AM

Uncle Tractor: Prisons should never, never, never be for profitrun by anyone but the government. Even more so if the criminal justice system is as bad as it is in the US.


FIFM
 
2012-06-25 04:57:43 AM

Darth_Lukecash: Yet events in the hours before Johnson was found "pulseless" in his cell raise questions about denial of care because of the rationed-care philosophy of the for-profit contractor Minnesota has hired to care for the state's 9,400 prisoners. Corizon Inc., formerly known as Correctional Medical Services, has had a contract with the state since 1998, worth $28 million this year.

"They have protocols to deal with the patient,'' her notes continue, "and say this is because patient has recently gotten his Dilantin cut in half.''

An autopsy later showed that Johnson's Dilantin was "below therapeutic level,''

A man died because of the bottom line and protocols

If I had my way, any contractor with the Government must be non-profit. They can still make money, but obviously they wouldn't be able to line the pockets of investors or C.E.Os

If I had my way, vital organizations for the public welfare would be non-profit. Hospitals, ambulances, garbage collection, water and utilities.


Bottom line, he died, in their care, because they reduced meds and refused ambulance to save money. I wonder if the 'nurse' gets a kick back or bonus for minimizing care costs.
F*ckin' inhuman.
 
2012-06-25 05:07:26 AM
I am all about the free market, but I have said it before I will say it again: There should not be a profit interest in locking people up. Slice it anyway you want to the nurses fault bad protocols whatever, it all goes back to that. There are some functions that only the state regulate and operate. Prisons are one of them.
 
2012-06-25 05:15:17 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: cretinbob: AverageAmericanGuy: Rufus Lee King: Nu? What was he in prison for?

Chopped a woman in the neck with a cleaver then grabbed another kitchen knife and stabbed her.

A real American hero.

You know how I can tell you know nothing about schizophrenia?

Silly me! Mental illness makes that okay now? I missed the memo.


Don't feed the troll.

He was no angel. However, this shouldn't have happened to him.
Here's what he did:

Man is charged with assault after stabbing woman in neck.(NEWS)


Star Tribune (Minneapolis, MN)
July 7, 2007 | Lonetree, Anthony | Copyright

Permalink
Byline: Anthony Lonetree; Staff Writer

Already he'd stabbed her with a butcher knife in the neck, but there was more damage to be done.

Xavius Scullark-Johnson, 24, of St. Paul, then twisted the knife and laughed, according to a second-degree assault charge filed against him Friday in Ramsey County District Court.

His victim, Pamela Edwards, stabbed through the trachea and esophagus, could not scream.

She managed to get help, police said, and was taken early Wednesday to Regions Hospital in St. Paul, where she was listed in fair condition on Friday. Edwards, communicating with police through writing, said she'd known her assailant for a ...
 
2012-06-25 05:20:06 AM
FTA: Although prisoner Xavius Scullark-Johnson had suffered multiple seizures over a period of hours, a nurse at the state prison in Rush City cited "protocols" in turning away an ambulance team sent to take him to a nearby hospital, crew reports show.

Even after having a goddamned city named after them, their fans will still biatch about Rush not being in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, though.

/for-profit prisons are farking evil, even when they're not paying kickbacks to corrupt punitive judges
 
2012-06-25 05:28:58 AM

TomD9938: A prisoner with health issues dies due to his health issues.

If this was Jerry Sandusky, we're all high-fiving.


No. No, we wouldn't be. The whole point of having a trial and convicting is to show that the law functions for each individual that goes against it. Asserting illegal and unethical means against a prisoner is fighting wrong with wrong.

Vigilante justice is not justice.
 
2012-06-25 05:37:28 AM
The doctor should sue the nurse and the prison.
 
2012-06-25 05:37:50 AM
Protocols! Methods! Objectives! HARRUMPH!

You get it now, folks?

There's no "great corporate procedure manual". There's no foundation or inherent truth to "methods and company objectives". It's a pack of rats shoving whatever sh*t through the goose they think they can manage with impunity, and if they get called on it, they go "harrumph" and it falls off the radar. Didja ever wonder why we're at war with the very businesses that are purporting to be boons to the economy and helping us live better? Ever wonder why nobody answers their own phones, anymore? They get away with this sh*t because we sit and say "how could they get away with this sh*t?" There are no isolated incidents. There are only the ones you read about.

Harrumph™
 
2012-06-25 05:44:00 AM
Also charge the nurse with voluntary manslaughter. I'm rather surprised the ambulance crew did smack her upside the head and just take the guy to the hospital.
 
2012-06-25 05:45:19 AM
And another issue, with is someone with schizophrenia not in a psychiatric care unit?
 
2012-06-25 05:46:19 AM

WhyteRaven74: And another issue, with is someone with schizophrenia not in a psychiatric care unit?


Probably for the same reason he was only serving 3 years for stabbing someone in the esophagus.

Plea bargain.
 
2012-06-25 05:48:51 AM
Everybody bashing the for profit prison bit, forget one this.

FTFA: Corrections nurses, who are state employees, work seven days a week,

One nurse F'd up by not calling for help in the evening, another F'd when she turned away the ambulance after the guard notified the doctor something was wrong and the doctor had the ambulance sent.

While I can see some things that need to be changed/improved with the for profit portion of medical care, this instance was purely the fault of the STATE EMPLOYEE NURSES!
 
2012-06-25 05:49:10 AM
image.guardian.co.uk
 
2012-06-25 05:49:19 AM
Well, as long as he's dead, they may as well chop his body up, put the meat through a grinder and serve up some people-burgers and convict-loaf to the rest of the prisoners. That should save another several hundred bucks right there.

/I'm all about the win-win
 
2012-06-25 05:49:22 AM

WhyteRaven74: Also charge the nurse with voluntary manslaughter. I'm rather surprised the ambulance crew did smack her upside the head and just take the guy to the hospital.


Since they were inside a prison, she could have easily gotten in touch with whomever was pulling guard duty at the entrance/exit area and told them not to let the ambulance leave.
 
2012-06-25 05:53:03 AM
Dilantin is fairly cheap. And they cut the dose?
 
2012-06-25 05:59:10 AM

Another Government Employee: Dilantin is fairly cheap. And they cut the dose?


It also makes me wonder if he was getting any treatment or medication for his schizophrenia. And if he was, did they reduce the treatment or medication for that as well?
 
2012-06-25 06:00:10 AM
Bathia_Mapes: The prison nurse needs to be barred from ever working in the health services field again.

Ah the "scapegoat" theory of corporate and public policy. You sound republican.
 
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